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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f):
And for your (gregyboy and Etinosa1234) posting of the super stories written by Gabriel Omonhimin, we need you to explain the following even further:

(1) How King Ado (according to your NewsPaper) was the first King, and not King Ashipa.

(2) How King Ado (according to your NewsPaper) is the son of the Oba of Benin, and not King Ashipa (according to the Benin account which says he is son or grandson).

(3) How Awori are Edo people according to your NewsPaper -- aka Gabriel Omohinmin. ROTFLMAO grin cheesy

Having said that, in case you Lagosian wanna-be Bini ret@rds aren't aware already; King Ashipa is Awori, his wife is Bini -- and as such Lagos kings link to Benin through her, as well as through the political annexation which Ashipa initiated. I have written on this in some details, on this same thread.

Moreover, I have shown that this so-called interview is a made-up fraud by Gabriel Omohinmin to whip up the emotion of gullible Edos like yourselves.

Refer to the comment below wherein I have already demostrated this:


*Having said that, even your link which was supposed to go to a one-to-one interview with Oba Akiolu shows that his supposed responses cannot possibly be from a one-to-one interview context.

This is in light of the fact of the perfect lexis & structure of the responses, as well as their absolute lack of spontaneity. These observations are evidently anomalous to one-to-one interview responses.

In fact, the delineation between the king’s supposed responses and the author’s own analyses was deliberately blurred. And the reason why the author engaged in all these foul-plays is not far-fetched at all. He is an Edo man – Gabriel Omonhimin.*


Furthermore, even if Oba of Lagos tells any such spurious story, we Yorubas know better (than backward Edos) that our kings aren't historians.

However, I have no problem with you Edos for your insistence that your kings are historians.

Oba Akiolu, at least, has never come out at anytime to identify himself as a historian.

Yet, he has every civil right (just as every lay person) to tell any story -- erroneous or accurate.

MetaPhysical, gomojam, lawani, Babtoundey, hayoholla, Moneywomen17, sesan85, RuggedSniper
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 8:03pm On Jun 12, 2020
TAO11:
And for your (gregyboy and Etinosa1234) posting of the super stories written by Gabriel Omonhimin, we need you to explain the following even further:

(1) How King Ado (according to your NewsPaper) was the first King, and not King Ashipa.

(2) How King Ado (according to your NewsPaper) is the son of the Oba of Benin, and not King Ashipa (according to the Benin account which says he is son or grandson).

(3) How Awori are Edo people according to your NewsPaper -- aka Gabriel Omohinmin. Rotflmao grin cheesy

Having said that, in case you Lagosian wanna-be Bini ret@rds aren't aware already; King Ashipa is Awori, his wife is Bini -- and as such Lagos kings link to Benin through her, as well ad through the political annexation which Ashipa initiated.

Moreover,
I would be leaving your humiliation to Etinosa1234 once more,

Etinosa1234 see your catch
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f):
gregyboy:
[s]I would be leaving your humiliation to Etinosa1234 once more,

Etinosa1234 see your catch[/s]
I really pray he comes back though. cheesy

Etinosa1234, you're owing me countless replies to several of my refutations which you've been avoiding since 3 days ago.

Now guess what, I have added even more refutations to you, apart from the ones you're already fleeing from. grin

I wish you good luck in your desperation to be accepted by me as a Lagosian. grin

Set awon Lagosian wanna-be. cheesy

Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op):
TAO11:
I really pray he comes back though. cheesy

Set awon Lagosian wanna-be.
You pray not to....

I know you don't give up even when defeated but you cant deniel your emotions of been scared of getting beaten
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 8:26pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
[s]You pray not to....

I know you don't give up even when defeated but you can deniel your emotions of been scared of getting beaten[/s]
Channel this your typing energy into addressing my refutation of your junks. .

Or channel it into bailing out Etinosa from my grip of countless refutations to him which he's still fleeing from even as I type.

To make it worse for you and him, I have replied him with even more refutations.
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by Etinosa1234: 9:00pm On Jun 12, 2020
TAO11:
(F) Lol. You're beginning to lack content to type, and thus getting irrational and emotional. Anyways refer to my foregoing point (E) for your 'rants' here.

(G) I am not sure what the basis of your interpretation, that the Lagos account isn't true, is. I am also unsure where you read any so-called Lagos-Ibadan report. For your information, Ibadan wasn't founded yet in all of these. Be guided! Lol.

For (1), (2), and (3); refer to my detailed reply to you (which you've been avoiding) on the political alliance with Benin Kingdom which Asheru initiated in the course of the Lagos succession tussle between him and the other Awori prince-candidates. See specifically my point number (6ii) in my 5th reply to you prior to this one, for the details of these circumstances.

(4) In the light of the fact that Lagos kings trace their ancestry to Benin (through King Ado's Benin mother), and to Lagos itself (through King Ado's Yoruba father -- Ashipa); Lagos and Benin then developed the custom of burying Lagos' kings' "bodies" in Benin, but their "heads" were buried on the soil of their paternal home land -- Lagos.

Refer to R. Smith's "The Lagos Consulate, 1851 - 1861" on page 6 (which is interestingly the same attachment you've attached) where he writes as follows:

"Instead, the connection with Benin was recognized in the customs of taking the body of a dead king (after severing the head) to Benin for burial".

This ancient custom of retaining the heads is clearly reminiscent of the Yoruba saying that "ori ade kii sun ita" which simply translates to: "the crowned-head is never laid to rest in a foreign land".

This again proves the Lagos account which rightly identifies Ashipa as Yoruba (and thus disproving the Benin account of a supposed conquest leading to the supposed installing of an Edo man as king).

This becomes even clearer if one relates this to a similar Bini custom (documented by Chief Egharevba from his Bini informants) that Benin kings have their heads severed and taken to Ife (their ancestral paternal home) for burial, and their bodies buried in Benin.

As has been shown, your attachment at no point alludes to any report of a royal conquest, rather it indicates -- from the burial custom -- that the Lagos account which identifies Ashipa (the progenitor) as Awori, is astonishingly accurate.

The obvious influence of the Benin government which this attachment shows has already been explained repeatedly by the political pact between Lagos and Benin Kingdom which was initiated by Ashipa. Refer again to my point number (6ii) in my 5th reply to you prior to this one.
The way u write...One would think u are a jobless writer.. Just 4 simple questions ... U dey write essay for me

Lemme make this question straight and I want u to give me a yes/no reply

1)Was it by peaceful infiltration that Lagos became a vassal of Benin Empire

2) Was it by peaceful infiltration that Benin got the undisputed right to choose and confirm who becomes the next oba.. I've never heard such happen in the history of Africa

3)was it peaceful infiltration that made ur forefathers to pay tributes to the Benin for 200yrs (that's so unlike it)

4) was it because of peaceful infiltration that ur obas were buried in Benin kingdom..

5) lemme add this new one, if linguistic indicator was a factor...Then tell me...what language did the Benin use to dictate who rules lagos

6)U claimed that the Benin military commander Asheru was killed by the Aworis in the So called trade conflict,s o if the military commander was killed,how would Benin still get control over Lagos

I need a yes or no answer...

If u are very confident of ur self ... answer it with a yes or no

No one is running away from anything...Ur speech is all talk no fact
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 9:01pm On Jun 12, 2020
TAO11:
Channel this your typing energy into addressing my refutation of your junks. .

Or channel it into bailing out Etinosa from my grip of countless refutations to him which he's still fleeing from even as I type.

To make it worse for you and him, I have replied him with even more refutations.
Nope it feels good when Etinosa1234 do it.... Lol
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by sesan85(m): 9:02pm On Jun 12, 2020
[quote author=gregyboy post=90597508][/quote]Lol, O knew you were going to make reference to this same old, tired, lame, fraudulent article "interview" that Akiolu didn't grant. Akiolu never
made this ahistorical, codeine-influenced comment
from the spurious, dubious link you shared: .
"Traditionally, Aworis
were found in Ile- ife; they were known
to be the Binis, who followed their self -
exiled prince, the first son of the Ogiso
(now called Oba ) of Benin Kingdom,
whose stepmother was after his head .
“ The exiled Benin Prince Izoduwa,
known to Yoruba as Ooduwa (Oduduwa ),
was made ruler of the Ife people due to
his powers and followers from the great
Benin Kingdom.
“ Izoduwa (Ooduwa) was made the first
king of Ile- Ife in 1230 AD. His followers
from his father’ s Kingdom in Benin are
today’s Awori people, who settled in Eko
now called Lagos." Whichever fraudulent Benin
revisionist attributed this horseshit to Akiolu should
be burned at the stake. Attributing made up words to Akiolu in order to give this trashy article a modicum of credibility. The Aworis, the descendants of
Ogunfunminire, were Binis? How low can Benin revisionists sink!? Awori people have
suffered!
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by sesan85(m): 9:07pm On Jun 12, 2020
TAO11:
And for your (gregyboy and Etinosa1234) posting of the super stories written by Gabriel Omonhimin, we need you to explain the following even further:

(1) How King Ado (according to your NewsPaper) was the first King, and not King Ashipa.

(2) How King Ado (according to your NewsPaper) is the son of the Oba of Benin, and not King Ashipa (according to the Benin account which says he is son or grandson).

(3) How Awori are Edo people according to your NewsPaper -- aka Gabriel Omohinmin. ROTFLMAO grin cheesy

Having said that, in case you Lagosian wanna-be Bini ret@rds aren't aware already; King Ashipa is Awori, his wife is Bini -- and as such Lagos kings link to Benin through her, as well as through the political annexation which Ashipa initiated. I have written on this in some details, on this same thread.

Moreover, I have shown that this so-called interview is a made-up fraud by Gabriel Omohinmin to to whip up the emotion of gullible Edos like you all.

Refer to the comment below wherein I have already demostrated this:


*Having said that, even your link which was supposed to go to a one-to-one interview with Oba Akiolu shows that his supposed responses cannot possibly be from a one-to-one interview context.

This is in light of the fact of the perfect lexis & structure of the responses, as well as their absolute lack of spontaneity. These observations are evidently anomalous to one-to-one interview responses.

In fact, the delineation between the king’s supposed responses and the author’s own analyses was deliberately blurred. And the reason why the author engaged in all these foul-play is not far-fetched at all. He is an Edo man – Gabriel Omonhimin.*


Furthermore, even if Oba of Lagos tells any such spurious story, we Yorubas know better (than backward Edos) that our kings aren't historians.

However, I have no problem with you Edos for your insistence that your kings are historians.

Oba Akiolu, at least, has never come out to at anytime to identify himself as a historian.

Yet, he has every civil right (just as every lay person) to tell any story -- erroneous or accurate.

MetaPhysical, gomojam, lawani, Babtoundey, hayoholla, Moneywomen17, sesan85, RuggedSniper
Akiolu would not even have made the despicable, spurious claim that Aworis were Binis! I read the so-called "interview" when it came out years ago and I immediately knew that the classless, dubious Benin revisionists put those words in Akiolu's mouth, lol. Akiolu never granted such "interview." Shameless people.
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 9:13pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
[s]Nope it feels good when Etinosa1234 do it.... Lol[/s]
What a pity that your hero is on the run! cry

Moreover, since you want you runaway here to help himself, why no you help yourself them regarding the reductions I addressed to you particularly.

Are you incompetent?
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f):
sesan85:
Akiolu would not even have made the despicable, spurious claim that Aworis were Binis! I read the so-called "interview" when it came out years ago and I immediately knew that the classless, dubious Benin revisionists put those words in Akiolu's mouth, lol. Akiolu never granted such "interview." Shameless people.
Yeah, it was at that "Awori" point that he made it too easy for himself to be caught as an unapologetic Edo fraud. grin

They seem to be unable to hide their bigotry -- whether the young or the old among them.
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f):
Etinosa1234:
The way u write...One would think u are a jobless writer.. Just 4 simple questions ... U dey write essay for me

Lemme make this question straight and I want u to give me a yes/no reply

1)Was it by peaceful infiltration that Lagos became a vassal of Benin Empire

2) Was it by peaceful infiltration that Benin got the undisputed right to choose and confirm who becomes the next oba.. I've never heard such happen in the history of Africa

3)was it peaceful infiltration that made ur forefathers to pay tributes to the Benin for 200yrs (that's so unlike it)

4) was it because of peaceful infiltration that ur obas were buried in Benin kingdom..

5) lemme add this new one, if linguistic indicator was a factor...Then tell me...what language did the Benin use to dictate who rules lagos

6)U claimed that the Benin military commander Asheru was killed by the Aworis in the So called trade conflict,s o if the military commander was killed,how would Benin still get control over Lagos

I need a yes or no answer...

If u are very confident of ur self ... answer it with a yes or no

No one is running away from anything...Ur speech is all talk no fact
Lad, you didn't ask any new question here, save one. grin

All your repeated questions have been trashed already in clear details in my last set of refutations to you (as well as in the earlier refutations to you) all of which you're still fleeing from till this moment.

It's a completely different issue that you're lazy to read. cheesy May be you're not the right fit to defend Benin Kindom from my destructive grip then.

I guess you should step aside then, and let gregyboy step in.

Oops! He already donated you to me. What a tough one for Edo slaves of the Yoruba Oba of Benin?! grin

What you must actually do now if you really want to save Benin Kingdom from my grip (and be granted Lagos citizenship by me) is to go through my already given detailed refutations to each of your repeated questions.

Following that, you may then return here with every contention you may find for each of my refutation to your rhetorical questions.

I know you really wish to reply me, but the problem is that your lie bank seem to be exhausted in the light of the unendung public humiliation you've endured in the presence of 4,027 readers (and still counting) of this particular thread.

Now to your additional face-saving straw-clutching inconsequential question:
5) lemme add this new one, if linguistic indicator was a factor...Then tell me...what language did the Benin use to dictate who rules lagos
This question right here is as dumb as the questioner. It is as dumb as asking a dumb question like:

In what language did the Binis and the first Portuguese communicate?

Moreover, having pointed out the dumbness of your question, I should add/remind you that the ancient Binis were Bilingual people -- able to speak their own languge obviously, as well as the language of the Yorubas.

Having answered your dumb question which is almost a mirror image of you yourself, permit me to say again here that the linguistic anomaly implied by the Benin tradional account still stands firm.

In other words, there is not one atom of trace of Edo language from the historical Lagos palace, yet the Benin traditional account asserts that Binis' presence in Lagos was supposedly to establish an Edo dynasty there till date. grin
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 9:30pm On Jun 12, 2020
hayoholla:
Stop stressing yourself, they will still ask for archeological evidence from one year to another, even with all this detailed explanation. Especially that greyboy. That guy na trolling winch!
Lol......... Seriously am laffing here.....



Gregyboy na winch this part got me......

I feel like sucking your blood na... Lol

#yorubasarepained......, ghostwon, AreaFada2, Areafada, valirex
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by AreaFada2: 9:44pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
Lol......... Seriously am laffing here.....



Gregyboy na winch this part got me......

I feel like sucking your blood na... Lol

#yorubasarepained......, ghostwon, AreaFada2, Areafada, valirex
Lol. Hehehe. grin grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 9:46pm On Jun 12, 2020
TAO11:
What a pity that your hero is on the run! cry

Moreover, since you want you runaway here to help himself, why no you help yourself them regarding the reductions I addressed to you particularly.

Are you incompetent?
Nope, just that when we start having a discussion you will be getting too emotional and your mouth will start running like a tap of insult"
Or even if i ignored that part of your insult, your brothers like hayoholla will accuse me of trolling
Because am always asking for archeological evidence and records of earliest writters

So i will prefer to stay indifferent before i will get insulted by you or called a winch by your brothers

Leave me in peace TAO11

Etinosa1234 take over
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 9:53pm On Jun 12, 2020
AreaFada2:
Lol. Hehehe. grin grin cheesy cheesy
Etinosa1234 don humble the babe.... Lol...

If it was me who humbled she will haul all abusive insult on me the world have not heard of

hayoholla is calling me winch at the other corner

I know the yorubas personally hate me..... But its cool i dont like them too

Did you read edeyoung olokun thread were the binis in igbaraOke in ondo frowned that the Bini’s
In igbaraOke after leaving years in igbaraOke still
Identity as Binis
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by BabaRamota1980: 9:55pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
Lol......... Seriously am laffing here.....



Gregyboy na winch this part got me......

I feel like sucking your blood na... Lol

#yorubasarepained......, ghostwon, AreaFada2, Areafada, valirex
Hayoholla, keep distance from these people. They are wicked. Theyve killed my car. I cant get it started. It was working fine. Keep away from them. Befoye you converse with Edo witcher chop plenty alligator pepper first so their strike can be deflected. Becareful, and dont touch any broom you see attached to a long stick, dont touch it.
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by BabaRamota1980: 10:01pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
Etinosa1234 don humble the babe.... Lol...

If it was me who humbled she will haul all abusive insult on me the world have not heard of

hayoholla is calling me winch at the other corner

I know the yorubas personally hate me..... But its cool i dont like them too

Did you read edeyoung olokun thread were the binis in igbaraOke in ondo frowned that the Bini’s
In igbaraOke after leaving years in igbaraOke still
Identity as Binis
Benin is different from Edo. Benin is different from Edo.
Benin is different from Edo.

How many times we go talk am before it sticks? See picture to understand difference between Benin and Edo. One does not need any bugger permission to wear garment, the other must be told and approved to wear cloth. If i have to tell you again I will shoot down your witch broomstick when you mount it tonight. Benin is not Edo.

Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 10:01pm On Jun 12, 2020
BabaRamota1980:
Hayoholla, keep distance from these people. They are wicked. Theyve killed my car. I cant get it started. It was working fine. Keep away from them. Befoye you converse with Edo witcher chop plenty alligator pepper first so their strike can be deflected. Becareful, and dont touch any broom you see attached to a long stick, dont touch it.
Lol......... If it was in the past insulting a benin man will result your head to be cut off to appease the gods........ Thanks to modern times.....
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 10:24pm On Jun 12, 2020
BabaRamota1980:
Benin is different from Edo. Benin is different from Edo.
Benin is different from Edo.

How many times we go talk am before it sticks? See picture to understand difference between Benin and Edo. One does not need any bugger permission to wear garment, the other must be told and approved to wear cloth. If i have to tell you again I will shoot down your witch broomstick when you mount it tonight. Benin is not Edo.
Binis are no yorubas because we used thier heads for sacrifice when needed without any reluctantancy

Despirado want to claim oba as Yoruba to satisfy
Thier bigoted ego


Truly if alk evidence point oba is yoruba i will be the first to promote the truth here to my edo people, am not here to satisfy any ego of mine but here to find the truth
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 10:25pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
Nope, just that when we start having a discussion you will be getting too emotional and your mouth will start running like a tap of insult"

Or even if i ignored that part of your insult, your brothers like hayoholla will accuse me of trolling
Because am always asking for archeological evidence and records of earliest writters

So i will prefer to stay indifferent before i will get insulted by you or called a winch by your brothers

Leave me in peace TAO11

Etinosa1234 take over
I only call you out in an exchange whenever you're adamantly dumb so you can realize it and then adjust. That's all.

Moeover, your hero Etinosa1234 has been running from pillar to post -- now he's claiming to be unable/unwilling to read "long" refutations grin cheesy

Is this really the best person you could present to save Benin Kingdom from my destructive grip?

Anyways, if you can't save him (while he also can't save himself or Benin), will you then fold your arms and watch Benin Kingdom continue to cast before your eyes?
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by Etinosa1234: 10:31pm On Jun 12, 2020
TAO11:
Lad, you didn't ask any new question here, save one. grin

All your repeated questions have been trashed already in clear details in my last set of refutations to you (as well as in the earlier refutations to you) all of which you're still fleeing from till this point.

It's a different question if you're lazy to read. cheesy May be you're not the right fit to defend Benin Kindom from my destructive grip then.

I guess you should step aside then, and let gregyboy step in.

Oops! He already donated you to me. What a tough one for Edo slaves of the Yoruba Oba of Benin?! grin

What you must actually do now if you really want to save Benin Kingdom from my grip (and be granted Lagos citizenship by me) is to go through my already given detailed refutations to each of your repeated questions.

Following that, you may then return here with every contention you may find for each of my refutation to your rhetorical questions.

I know you really wish to reply me, but the problem is that your lie bank seem to be exhausted in the light of the unendung public humiliation you've endured in the presence of 4,027 readers (and still counting) of this particular thread.

Now to your additional face-saving straw-clutching inconsequential question:
This question right here is as dumb as the questioner. It is as dumb as asking a dumb question like:

In what language did the Binis and the first Portuguese communicate?

Moreover, having pointed out the dumbness of your question, I should add/remind you that the ancient Binis were Bilingual people -- able to speak their own languge obviously, as well as the language of the Yorubas.

Having answered your dumb question which is almost a mirror image of you yourself, permit me to say again here that the linguistic anomaly implied by the Benin tradional account still stands firm.

In other words, there is not one atom of trace of Edo language from the historical Lagos palace, yet the Benin traditional account asserts that Binis presence in Lagos supposedly established an Edo dynasty there till date. grin
Lol simple yes or no u nor fit ans cheesy u think ur 20 page write-up fazes me...u must be drumk

Assuming ur fable that there was political alliance is true...then it should be good to admit that the Benin must have been so wise and smart to
1) choose ur king
2)force u guys to pay tributes without any form of conquest grin.
The same Benin that u said are uncivilised and walking naked as at early 19th century

Well there are levels to stupidity and there is the Awori and their grandchild Tao.
.those ones are whole new level

See ur oba trying to prove his eligibility of being the rightful king...(will it matter in a political alliance)

See ur obas paying tribute to Benin up till 1851.. ( please where do they pay tributes in a political alliance)

Dey there make Akintoye dey brainwash u..ohhh I forgot... The naked Benin has brainwash them b4 so nor be New thing

Cc gregyboy...

Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 10:36pm On Jun 12, 2020
Etinosa1234:
Lol simple yes or no u nor fit ans cheesy u think ur 20 page write-up fazes me...u must be drumk

Assuming ur fable that there was political alliance is true...then it should be good to admit that the Benin must have been so wise and smart to
1) choose ur king
2)force u guys to pay tributes without any form of conquest grin.
The same Benin that u said are uncivilised and walking naked as at early 19th century

Well there are levels to stupidity and there is the Awori and their grandchild Tao.
.those ones are whole new level

See ur oba trying to prove his eligibility of being the rightful king...(will it matter in a political alliance)

See ur obas paying tribute to Benin up till 1851.. ( please where do they pay tributes in a political alliance)

Dey there make Akintoye dey brainwash u..ohhh I forgot... The naked Benin has brainwash them b4 so nor be New thing

Cc gregyboy...
Lad, you didn't ask any new question here. grin

All your repeated questions have been trashed already in clear details in my last set of refutations to you (as well as in the earlier refutations to you) all of which you're still fleeing from till this moment.

It's a completely different issue that you're lazy to read. cheesy May be you're not the right fit to defend Benin Kindom from my destructive grip then.

I guess you should step aside then, and let gregyboy step in.

Oops! He already donated you to me. What a tough one for Edo slaves of the Yoruba Oba of Benin?! grin

What you must actually do now if you really want to save Benin Kingdom from my grip (and be granted Lagos citizenship by me) is to go through my already given detailed refutations to each of your repeated questions.

Following that, you may then return here with every contention you may find for each of my refutations to your rhetorical questions.

I know you really wish to reply me, but the problem is that your lie bank seem to be exhausted in the light of the unendung public humiliation you've endured in the presence of 4,027 readers (and still counting) of this particular thread.

Now to your additional face-saving straw-clutching inconsequential question:
5) lemme add this new one, if linguistic indicator was a factor...Then tell me...what language did the Benin use to dictate who rules lagos
This question right here is as dumb as the questioner. It is as dumb as asking a dumb question like:

In what language did the Binis and the first Portuguese communicate?

Moreover, having pointed out the dumbness of your question, I should add/remind you that the ancient Binis were Bilingual people -- able to speak their own languge obviously, as well as the language of the Yorubas.

Having answered your dumb question which is almost a mirror image of you yourself, permit me to say again here that the linguistic anomaly implied by the Benin tradional account still stands firm.

In other words, there is not one atom of trace of Edo language from the historical Lagos palace, yet the Benin traditional account asserts that Binis' presence in Lagos was supposedly to establish an Edo dynasty there till date. grin
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 10:41pm On Jun 12, 2020
TAO11:
I only call you out in an exchange whenever you're adamantly dumb so you can realize it and then adjust. That's all.

Moeover, your hero Etinosa1234 has been running from pillar to post -- now he's claiming to be unable to read long comments. grin cheesy

Is this really the best person you could present to save Benin Kingdom from my destructive grip?

Anyways, if you can't save him (while he also can't save himself or Benin), will you then fold your arms and watch Benin Kingdom continue to cast before your eyes?
....


My comments they pain you ehnn... Lol

You try to put up smiling meme but deep down you know reality... transgendered no one wants to have a conversation with you because you're too dump, even your brothers aviod having conversations with you..... If you don't know its a secret........... Go back and read all the comments
You will notice it......

And again stop being dump, transgendered we keep telling you keep your comments short... I barely read them..... Keep it short transgendered
Your comment is like full nairaland page... Guy na text book, bro/babe, get sense.....


From your comments it shows you're a tallkative in real life. i dont even know how to identify you gender is another issue i have with you


Remove that idol from your dp and put your picture for easy identification

If you're are a female act as one stop confusing us here girl/boy
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f):
gregyboy:
.[s]...My comments they pain you ehnn... Lol

You try to put up smiling meme but deep down you know reality... transgendered no one wants to have a conversation with you because you're too dump, even your brothers aviod having conversations with you..... If you don't know its a secret........... Go back and read all the comments
You will notice it......

And again stop being dump, transgendered we keep telling you keep your comments short... I barely read them..... Keep it short transgendered
Your comment is like full nairaland page... Guy na text book, bro/babe, get sense.....


From your comments it shows you're a tallkative in real life. i dont even know how to identify you gender is another issue i have with you


Remove that idol from your dp and put your picture for easy identification

If you're are a female act as one stop confusing us here girl/boy[/s]
Lazy people can't defend Benin Kingdom from my destructive grip. grin

Anyways, my comment has two purposes: (1) to destroy you and your 2by2 Kingdom as well as (2) to inform the whole world about the actual reality.

Enjoy this ride while it last.
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 10:55pm On Jun 12, 2020
Tao11, abeg i dey use my coven take beg you keep your comments short as possible nor be inside nairaland you won learn how to write textbook....... Ehnnnn eye don dey pain me.... Jesus

Keep it short and brief my eyes don dey pain me you be yoruba winch you nor go fit blind me abeg mumu winch
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 10:57pm On Jun 12, 2020
TAO11:
Lazy people can't defend Benin Kingdom from my destructive grip. grin

Anyways, my comment has two purposes: (1) to destroy you and your 2by2 Kingdom as well as (2) toinform the whole world about the actual reality.

Enjoy this ride while it last.
When Etinosa1234 dey treat your Bleep up... Lol
A typical yoruba mouth making lady
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by babtoundey(m): 11:00pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
....


My comments they pain you ehnn... Lol

You try to put up smiling meme but deep down you know reality... transgendered no one wants to have a conversation with you because you're too dump, even your brothers aviod having conversations with you..... If you don't know its a secret........... Go back and read all the comments
You will notice it......

And again stop being dump, transgendered we keep telling you keep your comments short... I barely read them..... Keep it short transgendered
Your comment is like full nairaland page... Guy na text book, bro/babe, get sense.....


From your comments it shows you're a tallkative in real life. i dont even know how to identify you gender is another issue i have with you


Remove that idol from your dp and put your picture for easy identification

If you're are a female act as one stop confusing us here girl/boy
Edoyoung, you are funny. comment is "dumP", too long that you can't read yet you're not tired of wearing different masks on daily basis creating "dumP" and lifeless topics. Isn't that absurd?

Once again, Tao11 has tutored you as she always does. We know you won't learn (You never did). Tomorrow, we expect you to come back under another moniker probably Edoyoung or Edoold or gregman to contend the very issues and subjects you were made to understand in the hard way.

Tao11, God bless you. You've as usual undone Gregboy the mask under Edoyoung. May God increase you in knowledge.
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 11:14pm On Jun 12, 2020
RuggedSniper:
^^^First off @TAO11, I'm commending your doggedness on this thread, your good usage of written English with very tiny to mostly no typographic errors... and this shows that you pay attention to little details. 2. Ok... As an avid reader and lover of genealogy and world history for over 40 years now, I've read a lot of world/Nigerian history books such as: THE HISTORY OF NIGERIA by Sir Allan Burns (In the 1920s, he was a Governor of Ghana and an Acting-Governor General of Nigeria. The book can also be read for free via Google Books). In the book's chapter on LAGOS HISTORY, Ashipa was clearly referred to as a YORUBA man from among the Yoruba nobility of Isheri who gained the friendship and support of the then Bini monarchy. Ashipa (or Asipa) then returned from the Bini Kingdom with the assistance of royal aides that came back with him and set up a monarchy on EKO Island which was of YORUBA/BINI origin and traditions! The children of Olofin (who are the official land owners or IDEJO till today) REJECTED the new monarchy on their Island but were accepted into EKO aristocratic activities as WHITE CAP CHIEFS. 3. Indeed Ashipa is a widely used name that is of Yoruba origin from ancient times. 4. Last but not least, in his coronation speech in 2016... Which you can still read online, Oba Ewuare the 2nd, then newly crowned king of Bini Kingdom clearly stated that it is Oranmiyan (and NOT his son-Oba Eweka) that was the 1st Oba of Bini Kingdom while he is currently the 40th Oba! Cheers to you and everyone reading this.
Bro it was Samuel Johnson's who started this rubbish of tracing every person he could count to is mythical ife, when our king oba eweka read the book he rebuked samuel johson account of the oba of benin being second to the last born to oranyan

Which oba eweka brought out his own version
Of ekaladeran migration to ife were he established ife.........

All this account we know were made up..... Ife was never a center for any yoruba tribe....
Follow my thread on Oduduwa existence



Again what prompted asikpa to come to benin to seek help to establish a mornachy in lagos, was asikpa a benin man or yoruba?
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 11:18pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
Tao11, abeg i dey use my coven take beg you keep your comments short as possible nor be inside nairaland you won learn how to write textbook....... Ehnnnn eye don dey pain me.... Jesus

Keep it short and brief my eyes don dey pain me you be yoruba winch you nor go fit blind me abeg mumu winch
Lazy people can't defend Benin Kingdom from my destructive grip. 

Fasten your belt for this ride or present another Bini to save your kingdom from me.

gregyboy:
When Etinosa1234 dey treat your Bleep up... Lol
A typical yoruba mouth making lady
He is still on the run, borrowing your excuse that he is unwilling to read many words.
grin grin

The guy you're pushing to me, seem to be faster in speed than Hussain Bolt. cheesy

Won't you help him?
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by Edeyoung: 11:22pm On Jun 12, 2020
BabaRamota1980:
Benin is different from Edo. Benin is different from Edo.
Benin is different from Edo.

How many times we go talk am before it sticks? See picture to understand difference between Benin and Edo. One does not need any bugger permission to wear garment, the other must be told and approved to wear cloth. If i have to tell you again I will shoot down your witch broomstick when you mount it tonight. Benin is not Edo.
I dont understand, does this picture correlate on what is being discussed now....
Trolls
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 11:23pm On Jun 12, 2020
Edeyoung:
I dont understand, does this picture correlate on what is being discussed now....
Trolls
All Edos are slaves of the Yoruba Oba Benin.

Agree or Disagree!
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