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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 11:26pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy has logged out at 11:18, and Edeyoung came in at 11:22.

Can't you sharply borrow someone's phone.

grin cheesy
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by Edeyoung: 11:26pm On Jun 12, 2020
babtoundey:
Edoyoung, you are funny. comment is "dumP", too long that you can't read yet you're not tired of wearing different masks on daily basis creating "dumP" and lifeless topics. Isn't that absurd?

Once again, Tao11 has tutored you as she always does. We know you won't learn (You never did). Tomorrow, we expect you to come back under another moniker probably Edoyoung or Edoold or gregman to contend the very issues and subjects you were made to understand in the hard way.

Tao11, God bless you. You've as usual undone Gregboy the mask under Edoyoung. May God increase you in knowledge.
You are quoting gregyboy and you're calling my name as him, why are you all dump, mostly the
Shegoat that gave you guys that idea i am gregyboy....... What a pity. confused peeps
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 11:27pm On Jun 12, 2020
Edeyoung:
You are quoting gregyboy and you're calling my name as him, why are you all dump, mostly the
Shegoat that gave you guys that idea i am gregyboy....... What a pity. confused peeps
Mumu, because you're the same person. Ode! cheesy

Should I give you more proof?


cc: babtoundey
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 11:33pm On Jun 12, 2020
babtoundey:
Edoyoung, you are funny. comment is "dumP", too long that you can't read yet you're not tired of wearing different masks on daily basis creating "dumP" and lifeless topics. Isn't that absurd?

Once again, Tao11 has tutored you as she always does. We know you won't learn (You never did). Tomorrow, we expect you to come back under another moniker probably Edoyoung or Edoold or gregman to contend the very issues and subjects you were made to understand in the hard way.

Tao11, God bless you. You've as usual undone Gregboy the mask under Edoyoung. May God increase you in knowledge.
Mouth making is what yorubas are known for, i will hence reserve my comment


I wilk keep creating threads adressing bini rights
Untill all of una go commit suicide all my threads i will keep updating them with new information
I believe edeyoung will do thesame too
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 11:36pm On Jun 12, 2020
TAO11:
Mumu, because you're the same person. Ode! cheesy

Should I give you more proof


cc: babtoundey
You kept it short....... You don get sense.... Pls keep it short always

What did you give to the male yorubas here they are just following you like like fly even you constantly sound stupud and insane am baffled ....
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 11:38pm On Jun 12, 2020
TAO11:
gregyboy has logged out at 11:18, and Edeyoung came in at 11:22.

Can't you sharply borrow someone's phone.

grin cheesy
Etinosa1234 she has gone insane again give her your meds
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 11:39pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
You kept it short....... Yoy don get sense.... Pls kerp it short always

What did you give to the male yorubas here they are just following you like like fly even you constantly sound stupud and insane am baffled ....
I am glad for you that you've found yourself a new excuse to run from me.

Whay are you afraid of me though?
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 11:41pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
Etinosa1234 has gone insane again give him
your meds
Ezcept that Etinosa is currently on the run cor dear life.

Having said that, do you need me to expose you more?

Because now that you returned, Edeyoung is suddenly disappeared again from "Viewing this topic".
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 11:43pm On Jun 12, 2020
TAO11:
Lazy people can't defend Benin Kingdom from my destructive grip. 

Fasten your belt for this ride or present another Bini to save your kingdom from me.



He is still on the run, borrowing your excuse that he is unwilling to read many words.
grin grin

The guy you're pushing to me, seem to be faster in speed than Hussain Bolt. cheesy

Won't you help him?
Mumu stop the pretence, boy/babe Etinosa1234
Don burst all your lies....

Keep your comments short
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 11:44pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
Mumu stop the pretence, boy/babe Etinosa1234
Don burst all your lies....

Keep your comments short
If running away from me (and from my refutation of all his comment without any exception) means the same as that, then yes. grin cheesy
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 11:46pm On Jun 12, 2020
TAO11:
If running away from me (and from my refutation of all his comment without any exception) means the same as that, then yes. grin cheesy
Mouth making, chow cho cho cho.....
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 11:47pm On Jun 12, 2020
Lastly, whenever you Binis are serious about finding someone who can save Benin Kingdom from my grip, then let me know.

Cheers for now, and please celebrate my leave.
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 11:48pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
Mouth making, chow cho cho cho.....
That one enter am well well!

Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 11:57pm On Jun 12, 2020
sesan85:
You mean Oba Rilwan Aremu Osuolale Akiolu identifies as Benin? Then how come he has no Benin name? Lol. So, can you show me any link where Akiolu identifies as Benin? I'll wait.
Even esans dont have bini names my guy
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 11:59pm On Jun 12, 2020
gregyboy:
Even esans dont have bini names my guy
At leat they have Edoid names!

Since you seem to be willing to, can you then point out which of the following is Edoid?

Rilwan, Aremu, Osuolale, or Akiolu. grin

cc: sesan85
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 12:03am On Jun 13, 2020
sesan85:
Akiolu never granted that spurious, ahistorical interview claiming Awori people were Bini. I read this same fraudulent article when it came out. It was some dubious Benin revisionists who put those words into his mouth to give their codeine-influenced ahistorical horseshit a modicum of credibility. Try harder.

Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by MetaPhysical: 12:19am On Jun 13, 2020
Etinosa1234:
Lol simple yes or no u nor fit ans cheesy u think ur 20 page write-up fazes me...u must be drumk

Assuming ur fable that there was political alliance is true...then it should be good to admit that the Benin must have been so wise and smart to
1) choose ur king
2)force u guys to pay tributes without any form of conquest grin.
The same Benin that u said are uncivilised and walking naked as at early 19th century

Well there are levels to stupidity and there is the Awori and their grandchild Tao.
.those ones are whole new level

See ur oba trying to prove his eligibility of being the rightful king...(will it matter in a political alliance)

See ur obas paying tribute to Benin up till 1851.. ( please where do they pay tributes in a political alliance)

Dey there make Akintoye dey brainwash u..ohhh I forgot... The naked Benin has brainwash them b4 so nor be New thing

Cc gregyboy...
Expect to hear from me later on the attachment. grin

You have walked yourself into a trap with this document.

CC
TAO12
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 12:20am On Jun 13, 2020
TAO11:
At leat they have Edoid names!

Since you seem to be willing to, can you then point out which of the following is Edoid?

Rilwan, Aremu, Osuolale, or Akiolu. grin

cc: sesan85
Ooh can you point out the edo names from the kings of urhobo people or do you need the names presented to you
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 12:26am On Jun 13, 2020
gregyboy:
Ooh can you point out the edo names from the kings of urhobo people or do you need the names presented to you
Edoid is what I wrote. I anticipated your dumbness because I think many, many steps ahead of you obviously.

So the challenge is still there for you to meet below:

Which of the following is Edoid:?

Rilwan, Aremu, Osuolale, or Akiolu.  grin
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by Etinosa1234: 12:28am On Jun 13, 2020
MetaPhysical:
Expect to hear from me later on the attachment. grin
You have walked yourself into a trap with this document.
CC TAO12
waiting patiently for u bro
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by Etinosa1234: 12:29am On Jun 13, 2020
TAO11:
Lad, you didn't ask any new question here. grin

All your repeated questions have been trashed already in clear details in my last set of refutations to you (as well as in the earlier refutations to you) all of which you're still fleeing from till this moment.

It's a completely different issue that you're lazy to read. cheesy May be you're not the right fit to defend Benin Kindom from my destructive grip then.

I guess you should step aside then, and let gregyboy step in.

Oops! He already donated you to me. What a tough one for Edo slaves of the Yoruba Oba of Benin?! grin

What you must actually do now if you really want to save Benin Kingdom from my grip (and be granted Lagos citizenship by me) is to go through my already given detailed refutations to each of your repeated questions.

Following that, you may then return here with every contention you may find for each of my refutations to your rhetorical questions.

I know you really wish to reply me, but the problem is that your lie bank seem to be exhausted in the light of the unendung public humiliation you've endured in the presence of 4,027 readers (and still counting) of this particular thread.

Now to your additional face-saving straw-clutching inconsequential question:
This question right here is as dumb as the questioner. It is as dumb as asking a dumb question like:

In what language did the Binis and the first Portuguese communicate?

Moreover, having pointed out the dumbness of your question, I should add/remind you that the ancient Binis were Bilingual people -- able to speak their own languge obviously, as well as the language of the Yorubas.

Having answered your dumb question which is almost a mirror image of you yourself, permit me to say again here that the linguistic anomaly implied by the Benin tradional account still stands firm.

In other words, there is not one atom of trace of Edo language from the historical Lagos palace, yet the Benin traditional account asserts that Binis' presence in Lagos was supposedly to establish an Edo dynasty there till date. grin
U keep denying the fact that ur forefathers paid tributes to us ...is this how u want to collect it back grin
Even oba Akitoye was trying to establish the fact that he was approved by the Benin to rule Lagos inorder to prove his legitimacy...
if u think I'm lieing ..see the letter here www-nairaland-com./5846195/benins-owners-ogboni-confraternity-olokun/18?iorg_service_id_internal=1646953538912597">https://https-www-nairaland-com./5846195/benins-owners-ogboni-confraternity-olokun/18?iorg_service_id_internal=1646953538912597%3BAfpO0sNZfVFSuWT9#90604252

what sort of political alliance does thatgrin
On this matter,akintoye is ur only authority and it was not corroborated by any European who were present around that period. low self-esteem now makes u say that Josua account corroborates the Lagos account(u are so druuuunnnk).. I know u lack understanding so I'll quote the Benin account for u one more time
Egharevba said" the oba set a A WAR CAMP in Lagos to extend his control over the area... Hope ur brain gets this
Then in the same page 73( that shame didn't allow you to post).. it was said that there is an early corroborative account by Josua Ulsheimer who said Lagos was A MILITARY CAMP with soldiers of the Benin kingdom governed by by four generals

See definition of camp
A base of a military group


So does that in anywhere state that Benin pple had settled down b4 1603.. its only ur Brown roof historian that has made such claims that Benin settled prior to 1603

There is no proof anywhere that Benin had been dwelling in Lagos b4 1603. Ur only authority is an Akintoye who was born 300yrs later and documented only what he was told

For ur info.. Josua was a German serving in the Benin army and there is every possibility that if Benin was residing there prior 1603 he would have included it in his account...but he didn't Because it never happened...stop taking in Akintoye tales by moonlight..
Besides the other professors are useless in this topic because...they didn't witness it and would be relying on oral stories to create their history

Once again...I have established the fact that ur Maggi historian called Akintoye only wrote what was told to him by the elders of the village...and his story is not in any way backed by any evidence of Europeans present as at that time...

So as u can see I have squashed ur false talk that the Benin lived in Lagos prior to 1603 except u can prove it with evidence of Europeans living during that period

By the way are u able answer my yes or no question or u want the Benin to re-brainwash u again like we did ur forefathers(if ur claim that it was by political alliance has a 1% truth attached to it lmaoooi)

Gregyboy...we don reduce am to the extent that she now writes a 20 page essay of lies that no one understands and then declare herself winner out of low self-esteem... Yunno this must be hard to deal with especially when u remember the fact that her forefathers were easily brainwashed by the Benin to be paying tributes and also give the Benin undisputed right to dictate who becomes the next oba....

Omo those Awori nor Smart at all my guy!!!! grin

Tao wake me up when u are brave enough to answer my questions with just yes or no
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op):
TAO11:
Edoid is what I wrote. I anticipated your dumbness because I think many, many steps ahead of you obviously.

So the challenge is still there for you to meet below:

Which of the following is Edoid:?

Rilwan, Aremu, Osuolale, or Akiolu.  grin
So you mean the urhobo king have Edoid names

Again what your understanding by ediod names


You're becoming too emotional now, i never even tackle you ooh

Respect your licking mouth there





If you equate ediod by people having thesame geneology then lagos, ondo, ekiti and the others have ediod geneology too and thier names maybe sounding yorubas but it is still edo


Asikpa was a benin man his name was initially asikpaka meaning a very slim fellow

Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 12:34am On Jun 13, 2020
Etinosa1234:
On this matter,akintoye is ur only authority and it was not corroborated by any European who were present around that period. low self-esteem now makes u say that Josua account corroborates the Lagos account(u are so druuuunnnk).. I know u lack understanding so I'll quote the Benin account for u one more time
Egharevba said" the oba set a A WAR CAMP in Lagos to extend his control over the area... Hope ur brain gets this
Then in the same page 73( that shame didn't allow you to post).. it was said that there is an early corroborative account by Josua Ulsheimer who said Lagos was A MILITARY CAMP with soldiers of the Benin kingdom governed by by four generals

See definition of camp
A base of a military group


So does that in anywhere state that Benin pple had settled down b4 1603.. its only ur Brown roof historian that has made such claims that Benin settled prior to 1603

There is no proof anywhere that Benin had been dwelling in Lagos b4 1603. Ur only authority is an Akintoye who was born 300yrs later and documented only what he was told

For ur info.. Josua was a German serving in the Benin army and there is every possibility that if Benin was residing there prior 1603 he would have included it in his account...but he didn't Because it never happened...stop taking in Akintoye tales by moonlight..
Besides the other professors are useless in this topic because...they didn't witness it and would be relying on oral stories to create their history

Once again...I have established the fact that ur Maggi historian called Akintoye only wrote what was told to him by the elders of the village...and his story is not in any way backed by any evidence of Europeans present as at that time...

So as u can see I have squashed ur false talk that the Benin lived in Lagos prior to 1603 except u can prove it with evidence of Europeans living during that period

By the way are u able answer my yes or no question or u want the Benin to re-brainwash u again like we did ur forefathers(if ur claim that it was by political alliance has a 1% truth attached to it lmaoooi)

Gregyboy...we don reduce am to the extent that she now writes a 20 page essay of lies that no one understands and then declare herself winner out of low self-esteem... Yunno this must be hard to deal with especially when u remember the fact that her forefathers were easily brainwashed by the Benin to be paying tributes and also give the Benin undisputed right to dictate who becomes the next oba....

Omo those Awori nor Smart at all my guy!!!! grin
Yoruba are known for mouth making, i dont want to enter the discussion because i know you are already killing her......
Kudos bro


I have told her severally to keep her writeup short
She wont listen her mouth na tap
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by sesan85(m): 12:35am On Jun 13, 2020
gregyboy:
Even esans dont have bini names my guy
Balderdash! The Elawure (Olu Awure) of Usen and the Usen people still bear Yoruba names despite having left Ife for today's Edo State hundreds of years ago. Akiolu is not Bini, stop deluding yourself.
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op):
sesan85:
Balderdash! The Elawure (Olu Awure) of Usen and the Usen people still bear Yoruba names despite having left Ife for today's Edo State hundreds of years ago. Akiolu is not Bini, stop deluding yourself.
Guy i dont buy this ife thing ooh, except you won provide me evidence say all yorubas migrated from ife and oduduwa existence as a man......

Usen people were originally benins who were influenced by yorubas, it is not just pertaining to usen.... We have a bini tribe inflenced by edo and igbos culture oza ngogo
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 12:52am On Jun 13, 2020
gregyboy:
i know i am a fool
Greetings to you from Oba Akiolu

Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 12:56am On Jun 13, 2020
TAO11:
Greetings to you from Oba Akiolu

Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op): 12:59am On Jun 13, 2020
TAO11:
Greetings to you from Oba Akiolu
Says Yoruba revisionists media

Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 1:00am On Jun 13, 2020
gregyboy:
.
Yes, the Benn account talks of conquest.

The Lagos account contradicts it.

The Lagos account agrees more with the historical realities and European accounts.

Sir Allan Burns writing in c.1920 also confirmed the Lagos account that the first king of the present dynasty is a Yoruba from Isheri.
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO11(f): 1:01am On Jun 13, 2020
gregyboy:
Says Yoruba revisionists mediay
He responded to that already + he admitted that he is a policeman not a historian.
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(op):
TAO11:
Yes, the Benn account talks of conquest.

The Lagos account contradicts it.

The Lagos account agrees more with the historical realities and European accounts.

Sir Allan Burns writing in c.1920 also confirmed the Lagos account that the first king of the present dynasty is a Yoruba from Isheri.
Lagos account, people when them nor get any form of document prior to to tge British arrive na u dey listen to because thier account sweet you

Babe you mumu abeg..... Na thier account you suppose reason abi the account of early historical document from 1603

Sense you nor get anything when sweet you dey post..... I will be force to entire this discussion and end it once and for all

You too like talk

Or do you think the article we are giving you are authors from benin


So that your brothers will start shouting on your behalf
Unfair....... Calling me names like winch
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by Etinosa1234: 1:15am On Jun 13, 2020
gregyboy:
Lagos account, people when them nor get any form of document prior to to tge British arrive na u dey listen to because thier account sweet you

Babe you mumu abeg..... Na thier account you suppose reason abi the account of early historical document from 1603

Sense you nor get anything when sweet you dey post..... I will be force to entire this discussion and end it once and for all

You too like talk

Or do you think the article we are giving you are authors from benin
Asin...The first question we suppose dey ask them Na... WERE THEY THERE
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