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TAO12:
Hahaha!

TAO12:
If you push me to the edge, I will present even more damaging evidence to expose you as one and the same person.



Now, you've just pushed me. >: Lol.

(1) The following link relates to a thread you [as "gregyboy"] created on May 18 at 6:38 PM

https://www.nairaland.com/5866543/identify-benin-greetings-here#89693577

[See 1st attached screenshot also for evidence that you created this thread].

(2) As expected, your second moniker ["Edeyoung"] was not cc:ied because at that time you were still acting naturally, as there was no need to copy yourself.

[See 1st attached screenshot for evidence for this].

(3) (i) The thread was meant to be an invitation [from "gregyboy"] to all Edos/Binis to identify their native dialectal Edo forms of greeting.

(ii) You [as "gregyboy"] identified your native dialectal form of greeting.

[See 1st attached screenshot for evidence of this].

(iii) In fact, other Edos/Binis who commented on the thread all follwed suit and identified thier own native dialectal forms too -- except for one Edo/Bini monker who commented but didn't identify. Lol.

(v) This Edo/Bini account (who failed to identify) goes by the moniker "Edeyoung".

[See 2nd attached screenshot for this].

Could it be that Edeyoung didn't really pay attention to see the topic of the thread?? Lol.

Well, the context of his comment doesn't seem to support this suggestion.

[See 2nd attached screenshot for this].


(vi) Oh wait a minute!

Could it be that the person behind "Edeyoung" has already identified his native greeting under a different moniker ["gregyboy"], and was simply unintentionally submitting to natural psychological inclinations??

(vii) As at now, Edeyoung's comment is the only comment on that thread from that moniker.

It is also the last comment on that thread.

[See 2nd attached screenshot for this].

(viii) Let's hope that after reading this, you will go back to that thread and make up some random native dialectal Edo greeting for Edeyoung.

Cheers!

cc: babtoundey, MetaPhysical

babtoundey:
The guy is a lost course. Seriously, he is. You can see him showing me Edeyoung viewing the thread with Gregboy after he had borrowed his daddy's phone to log in his other moniker. What manner of stupidity can beat that!

He introduce his Edeyoung moniker to redeem his soiled image on Nairaland and make stupid u-turn whenever he is lost roads. There was a time Gregboy admitted oba does not mean king Edo that it means one shinning nonsense. When you lashed him to the extent that he realized his undoings he started shouting oba means king with Edoyoung moniker.

The guy is simply dumP

babtoundey:
The guy is a lost course. Seriously, he is. You can see him showing me Edeyoung viewing the thread with Gregboy after he had borrowed his daddy's phone to log in his other moniker. What manner of stupidity can beat that!

He introduces his Edeyoung moniker to redeem his soiled image on Nairaland and make stupid u-turn whenever he losts roads. There was a time Gregboy admitted oba does not mean in king Edo that it means one shinning nonsense. When you lashed him to the extent that he realized his undoings he started shouting oba means king with Edoyoung moniker.

The guy is simply dumP

gregyboy:
See fool
Our ancestor sacrifice the heads of your ancestors on the alter of the oba of benin and got the bloods spilled all over benin city..... We csn still see the trace of the blood in our land till date



I would repeat myself...... Before you go around spoiling my name among your colleagues

The etymology oba means” shinny one"
Literally oba means king. and it represents king
The etymology of a word does not equate its literal meaning of the word, the etymology only gives the origin and historical origin of the word

So the word oba is king... In literal terms
The full title is omo n'oba nedo ukwakpolopolo
And the word got into yoruba lexicon from the ewuare period since early 15 century when benin kings were warlords conquering into yoruba areas

babtoundey:
Which ancestors? The same ancestors you're ashamed of and curse daily in your dreams for selling you cheap for political gains.

You are always an inconsistent braggart. What happens to shiny Seki, red and all those beautiful nonsense you ascribed to the meaning of Oba in Edo. I will love to see you sweating like a he-goat trying to overcome the threat of slaughtering when you're asked to give a simple, straightforward analysis of "oba" in Edo. That's when you will throw in your shinning Seki and it's red nonsense

Simply dumP

TAO12:
Your hero ran away after being crushed and trashed.

Who will now save Benin Kingdom?

I heard you all are still in the search for another Edo hero to face TAO.

Etinosa1234:
It must be hard coming to terms with the fact that u were brainwashed so easily by the "uncivilised" Benin in the name of political alliance

Cry harder

TAO12:
[s]First of all, your silence in response to my refutation of your position (of a supposed 'conquest' of Lagos, and of Ashipa's supposed Bini indigenship) is interestingly deafening. [/s] I'm silent at ur foolishness

[s]You appear to have either ran out of means to spin my analysis, or you've conceded to have been unfortunately long-misled into ingesting a mis-interpretation of history, hook, line and sinker without hesitation and scrutiny. [/s] Spitting trash as usual

[s]In any case, it is my pleasure to have helped you eventually outgrow the childhood indoctrination force-fed to you along the lines that the Binis settled in Lagos via some conquest that established an Edo dynasty there.[/s]U need the advice urself

[s]Having said that, I should add some word of light to the self-inflicted delusions that you've been lately clouded with in relation to the remittances to Benin, etc. which resulted from the alliance -- with the foreign (Benin) government -- initiated by the Isheri prince and to-be-founder of the new Lagos dynasty, Ashipa.[/s] no historical evidence based at that time

[s]It is important that I make it clear that the context of your use of the word "brainwashed" is not only farfetched but also pain-induced. [/s] Trying to cover for ur forefathers?

To brainwash another party is to have initiated some "mischief".

[s]In the light of this consideration and in the light of your pettiness, it will appear then that Ashipa brainwashed the Benin government (and not the other way round), as there is not a single account which speaks of the Benin government initiating the alliance with him.[/s] evidence European witnesses reports??

[s]However, the reality is that there is in fact no "mischief" from either side of the alliance -- the Lagos side or the Benin side -- except the one in your poor little mind. Lol.[/s] attempting to distort history again

[s]Ashipa -- a contending Awori prince (and his party) -- allied with Benin government for support at the outset of the 'Lagos' succession tussle. Other eligible Awori princes must have also sought similar supports from elsewhere.[/s]still. Do u have any evidence or its still tales by moonlight

[s]The Ashipa alliance obviously emerged triumphant over the other(s). Naturally, such alliances and supports obviously do not come without treaties of commitments from the parties involved.[/s] ur forefathers will be ashamed of u

[s]One of such commitments is evident in the fact that annual remittances were made to the Benin government. Another is evident in the fact that the newly formed Lagos dynasty did not have the need for its own home-grown standing military in the course of its history.[/s] what sort of govt doesn't need an army? A newly Formed one for that matter...Busted u again

[s]As opposed to the imagery you are desperate to portray, such ties that continued between the Lagos dynasty and the Benin government was, rather than a parasitic relationship, reminiscent of symbiosis & diplomacy as well as maternal ancestry.[/s] Yeah with Benin having the upper hand...Don't cry pOLitCal AlLIanCe

[s]I hope I have been able to finally absolve you from the shackles and dungeon of Igodomigodo. But in any case, the aplication your submitted before me for Lagos indigenship has been torn, crushed, burnt and trashed.[/s] as usual ....tell us cock and bull stories and say I HAvE cRuSHed yoU

cc: RuggedSniper, MetaPhysical, lawani, gomojam, babtoundey, Moneywomen17, sesan85

Etinosa1234:
Incase u were unable to read it all..this is Tao emotions why writing this essay

TAO12:
[s]Finally, you couldn't muster a come back! Interesting!!

I know it's a difficult one seeing your child-hood indoctrinations fall apart like a pack of cards before your own very eyes.

The very comment you 'cancelled out' (due to your admitted incapacitation) contains the very answers, clarifications, and refutations, to your attachments.

Good news is, it is already out there on the interent just as the several greatly detailed ones that I have writting before it on this same thread.

Your lines over it is ineffectual in preventing the people from reading the actual comment and then realizing the falsehood of oft-repeated Benin propaganda.

But anything that helps you sleep at night though.

Finally, when are you going to reply the several other that you fled completely from without uttering any word (sensible or not)??[/s]

BabaRamota1980:
Yoruba people, becareful with Edo. They are wicked. You have conquered and ruled them for centuries so they are very bitter. Be careful. Ok if you dont believe me just read this. They are witches.

TAO12:
First of all, your silence in response to my refutation of your position (of a supposed 'conquest' of Lagos, and of Ashipa's supposed Bini indigenship) is interestingly deafening.

You appear to have either ran out of means to spin my analysis, or you've conceded to have been unfortunately long-misled into ingesting a mis-interpretation of history, hook, line and sinker without hesitation and scrutiny.

In any case, it is my pleasure to have helped you eventually outgrow the childhood indoctrination force-fed to you along the lines that the Binis settled in Lagos via some conquest that established an Edo dynasty there.

Having said that, I should add some word of light to the self-inflicted delusions that you've been lately clouded with in relation to the remittances to Benin, etc. which resulted from the alliance -- with the foreign (Benin) government -- initiated by the Isheri prince and to-be-founder of the new Lagos dynasty, Ashipa.

It is important that I make it clear that the context of your use of the word "brainwashed" is not only farfetched but also pain-induced.

To brainwash another party is to have initiated some "mischief".

In the light of this consideration and in the light of your pettiness, it will appear then that Ashipa brainwashed the Benin government (and not the other way round), as there is not a single account which speaks of the Benin government initiating the alliance with him.

However, the reality is that there is in fact no "mischief" from either side of the alliance -- the Lagos side or the Benin side -- except the one in your poor little mind. Lol.

Ashipa -- a contending Awori prince (and his party) -- allied with Benin government for support at the outset of the 'Lagos' succession tussle. Other eligible Awori princes must have also sought similar supports from elsewhere.

The Ashipa alliance obviously emerged triumphant over the other(s). Naturally, such alliances and supports obviously do not come without treaties of commitments from the parties involved.

One of such commitments is evident in the fact that annual remittances were made to the Benin government. Another is evident in the fact that the newly formed Lagos dynasty did not have the need for its own home-grown standing military in the course of its history.

As opposed to the imagery you are desperate to portray, such ties that continued between the Lagos dynasty and the Benin government was, rather than a parasitic relationship, reminiscent of symbiosis & diplomacy as well as maternal ancestry.

I hope I have been able to finally absolve you from the shackles and dungeon of Igodomigodo. But in any case, the aplication your submitted before me for Lagos indigenship has been torn, crushed, burnt and trashed.

cc: RuggedSniper, MetaPhysical, lawani, gomojam, babtoundey, Moneywomen17, sesan85

Etinosa1234:
Incase u were unable to read it all..this is Tao emotions why writing this essay

TAO12:
Finally, you couldn't muster a come back! Interesting!!

I know it's a difficult one seeing your child-hood indoctrinations fall apart like a pack of cards before your own very eyes.

The very comment you 'cancelled out' (due to your admitted incapacitation) contains the very answers, clarifications, and refutations, to your attachments.

Good news is, it is already out there on the interent just as the several greatly detailed ones that I have writting before it on this same thread.

Your lines over it is ineffectual in preventing the people from reading the actual comment and then realizing the falsehood of oft-repeated Benin propaganda.

But anything that helps you sleep at night though.

Finally, when are you going to reply the several other that you fled completely from without uttering any word (sensible or not)??

Etinosa1234:
Robert Smith openly said Egharevba account is earlier corroborated by Josua Ulsheimer...but one emotional Awori 400 yrs later is still saying that Akintoye report is backed by Josua...

Those pictures I put up there have already shown the fraud that u are...So I don't have anything to say to u except u have solid proof I mean European eyewitness not ur Maggi historian
https://https-www-nairaland-com.0/5846195/benins-owners-ogboni-confraternity-olokun/22?iorg_service_id_internal=1646953538912597%3BAfpO0sNZfVFSuWT9#90647919


Admit it...u've lost the argument and u are only looking for a comeback ...

By the way...u must be my grandmother's incarnate..cos she tells good folktale stories

gregyboy:
Bro let her be post the necessary point and let her wallow in her ignorance, as you can see non of her yorubas brothers are calling you out of being unfair they know she has lost
If she havnt you will be seeing them attacking you on her behalf....
Dont mind her again

gregyboy:
We ruled you all, gave you the title oba, gave you ifa, gave you Olokun and the others

Bow to the benin might

BabaRamota1980:
Who has Edo ever ruled? Point to anywhere you ever seen an Edo king. Bring picture or article written of an Edo king.

gregyboy:
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gregyboy:
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TAO12:
You're going in circles now perhaps because the issue here is bigger than you and your hero, Etinosa who has been beaten blue and black in this.

The idea that Lagos was conquered is an interpretation which, in fact, does not gel with the earliest known eyewitness report (Ulsheimer, 1603), nor with the generally well-known historical realities of the then Lagos.

The account of Ulsheimer (1603) indicates clearly that what has been often widely interpreted as a conquest of Lagos by the Binis is in fact a misinterepretation.

On the contrary, the report indicates that the Binis must have settled in Lagos pre-1603 -- that is , prior to the conflict alluded to in that report -- and as such the conflict it talks about can not possibly be an imperial attempt to settle in Lagos to take it.

Moreover, the historical fact of the early begginings of European trade on the coast of Lagos (pre-1600) is an obvious corroboration to the beginnings of Benin's presence (an active participant in the coastal trade) in the region pre-1600. This is true for many other immigrant groups too apart from Benin.

The foregoing consideration of these two facts (i.e. the report of Ulsheimer(1603) and the early beginnings of European trade in Lagos) supports the aspect of the Lagos traditional account (and not the Benin traditional account) which holds that the settling in of the Binis et al. in Lagos [pre-1600s] was via a peaceful infiltration -- i.e. trade.

This same consideration also supports another aspect of the Lagos traditional account which holds that the [post-1600] conflicts in Lagos [one of which Ulsheimer(1603) talks about] relates simply to trade-induced violence long, long after all immigrant groups had in peacefully for trade purposes.

Refer to the attached for details on this.

Furthermore, while there is also nothing in Ulsheimer's(1603) report to even suggest that the first king of Lagos is a Bini (as the Bini traditional account holds); inguistic clues ("Ashipa" ) indicate that the first king of Lagos is of Yoruba descent. Moreover, an independent 1920s non-Yoruba and non-Bini account also confirms this about Ashipa being a Yoruba royalty from Isheri.

In addition to these, the custom of burying the kings' heads in Lagos and their remaining body in Benin although suggests connection with Benin (i.e. a maternal and a political connection as I have once shown), it does indeed confirm Lagos to be the paternal homeland of Lagos kings.

And the Benin traditional account finally finds its way to the dustbin.

cc: RuggedSniper, MetaPhysical, lawani, gomojam, babtoundey, Moneywomen17, sesan85

Etinosa1234:
(1) Robert Smith openly said Egharevba account is earlier corroborated by Josua Ulsheimer...but one emotional Awori 400 yrs later is still saying that Akintoye report is backed by Josua...

(2) Those pictures I put up there have already shown the fraud that u are...So I don't have anything to say to u except u have solid proof I mean European eyewitness not ur Maggi historian


(3) Admit it...u've lost the argument and u are only looking for a comeback ...

(4) By the way...u must be my grandmother's incarnate..cos she tells good folktale stories

gregyboy:
Go sit down,

You need sleep

TAO12:
I refuse to accept that this is your best to save Benin Kingdom from me.

gregyboy:
[s]Go sleep, i know say you like talk, Etinosa1234

don finish you, every article support benin conquest only you come different

I fear your lie[/s]

TAO12:
Do you not have any way to save Benin from me apart from you and Etinosa whose application for Lagos indigenship, before me, has been torn, crushed, burnt and trashed?

Engage my argument if truly you believe it's a lie.

MetaPhysical:


Anyone with objective mind can see their stories are nothing but desperation.

You have repeatedly dealt blows to their fables.

Etinosa1234, I still dont see your response o. I replied to your bullshyte of conquest in Lagos, still waiting for your response.

Gregyboy/edeyoung, davidnazee have all tried and failed to reconstruct Benin journey to Lagos. Go and read my response and attempt to share how thousands of Beni warriors made it from Benin to Lagos.

Etinosa1234:
Olu of warri

gregyboy:
(1)We ruled you all, gave you the title oba,

(2) gave you ifa,

(3) gave you Olokun and the others

Bow to the benin might