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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by MuttleyLaff: 4:32am On Jun 12, 2020
Emusan:
@OP
Nobody has right to permanently ban anybody even scripture didn't support that, the best is to come together to help the person in such situation.
Gbam!
110% agree to this and without demur

OLAADEGBU:
Knowing fully well that the Pastor has been reinstated by the church, will you personally sit under the ministration of a pastor who was caught committing adultery?
I would, if I am convinced and convicted in my heart that, it was a lapse of judgement and moment of weakness thing, of which won't repeat itself again

Anas09:
Yes.
Wld you say if the Lord beams his light towards you right now, he won't find a spot of sin? Aren't you still preaching?
lmao. Sin is sin. No sin is greater than another sin, bar blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, that one which will not be forgiven

OLAADEGBU:
Preaching to me is not exclusive to Pastors alone so we are not talking about preaching here. Let me break it down a bit. If you have a daughter who was impregnated by your pastor and she died as a result and you later found out that the pastor was responsible for your daughter's death, if the pastor admits to his sin and repents and is forgiven by God and is then restored to the pulpit as a pastor, would you comfortable sit under his ministration?
King David though already anointed king by Samuel, while king Saul was still alive, respected king Saul right on to death, even at one time, when he had the chance to kill king Saul, he spared his life, when king Saul had been finding all sort of ways to eliminate David (i.e. 1 Samuel 24:1-22) If one has the grace, one will comfortably sit under pastor's ministration

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Nobody: 5:25am On Jun 12, 2020
Anas09:

Do you know that lying is a sin? The Hellenistic Catholic Church burned Tyndale, not the Church of Jesus Christ.
You will never come by any place the Lord instructed that those who do not believe in him shd be burned. So pls stop telling lies.

Lairs have their place in the lake of fire.

And what did the bolded claim they are?

Muslims? cheesy

So you're the one who is causing dissension now, not JWs again!

When we tell you guys that Christians must be recognizable by their group name.
You'll be arguing blindly, aren't all of you claiming Christians? So how come you are not having the same line of thought on the issue raised?
Simply quote "Religionists claiming the church of Christ burnt a man alive for going against their doctrines" and you're here arguing that they're not Christians, so who are the Christians? cheesy
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by ichuka(m): 6:41am On Jun 12, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


1 Corinthians 5:1-13
Goodmorning big bro
U aren't getting the point here.thats why I told u not to quote scriptures out of context.
Let's not start arguing the script u quoted now.
In d OT why is it that King David after killing a man took his wife n God still forgive n affirm him as King?

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Anas09: 8:37am On Jun 12, 2020
Maximus69:


And what did the bolded claim they are?

Muslims? cheesy

So you're the one who is causing dissension now, not JWs again!

When we tell you guys that Christians must be recognizable by their group name.
You'll be arguing blindly, aren't all of you claiming Christians? So how come you are not having the same line of thought on the issue raised?
Simply quote "Religionists claiming the church of Christ burnt a man alive for going against their doctrines" and you're here arguing that they're not Christians, so who are the Christians? cheesy
Again, do you know a liar works for satan and satan and his agents have their place in hellfire?
Do you know the meaning of 'Church?', if you do, you won't call a group who murders people to promote an agenda that is not Christ's.

JW work to promote Satan's agenda covertly, but don't worry, you will get your reward in full.

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Anas09: 8:39am On Jun 12, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


That is not the case here, my sister. undecided
So sins have degree sir?

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Anas09: 8:42am On Jun 12, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


He made an impact in the lives of those who took Him serious and today we see what changes they have made to the world.



"Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid" (Matthew 5:14).

If the world didn't take them serious why was it said that His disciples turned the world upside down? He made history, as a matter of fact it was His-story. The world is still referencing the date according to Christ (B.C. and A.D.) Should I go on?



The difference between apples and oranges is clear. God forgives sinners and backsliders (including pastors) from all iniquities when they repent, no one is arguing about that. While it is agreed that their sins had been forgiven the misguided "church" is getting it wrong that their should be no restitution or justice because he/she has been forgiven. Jesus forgives and is just. There should be forgiveness and justice. Does it even sound right for the world to say that you cannot find justice in the church except in the courts of law?
Is restitution to God or to men?
Why do we stand in Judgement (God's place) against others.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Nobody: 9:28am On Jun 12, 2020
Anas09:

Again, do you know a liar works for satan and satan and his agents have their place in hellfire?
Do you know the meaning of 'Church?', if you do, you won't call a group who murders people to promote an agenda that is not Christ's.

JW work to promote Satan's agenda covertly, but don't worry, you will get your reward in full.

My friend, that's what they called themselves not what i call them!

It's you now asserting that they're not Christians, meanwhile they were doing so to keep the KJV as the only English version in circulation! cheesy

So if you also condemn other versions of the Bible in favour of the KJV, then know today that you're part of those who murdered William Tyndale! cheesy

Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Nobody: 9:37am On Jun 12, 2020
Anas09:

Again, do you know a liar works for satan and satan and his agents have their place in hellfire?
Do you know the meaning of 'Church?', if you do, you won't call a group who murders people to promote an agenda that is not Christ's.

JW work to promote Satan's agenda covertly, but don't worry, you will get your reward in full.

When will you guys learn?

Those who killed William Tyndale prevented their contemporaries from knowing that there is nothing like Hellfire and here you're saying they're not the church whereas you are still propagating the lies they forwarded to you the concept of HELLFIRE! undecided undecided undecided
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Nobody: 9:48am On Jun 12, 2020
TATIME:


When will you guys learn?

Those who killed William Tyndale prevented their contemporaries from knowing that there is nothing like Hellfire and here you're saying they're not the church whereas you are still propagating the lies they forwarded to you the concept of HELLFIRE! undecided undecided undecided

Abegi let them continue dreaming of a place that never and will never exist! cheesy

My own concern is to tell them the truth, it is their Church founders that killed people because those ones opposed their demonic teachings!

First century Christians only disfellowship defaulters NOT kill them, but their own Church founders connived with worldly politicians to kill innocent people like William Tyndale! cheesy
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Nobody: 12:05pm On Jun 12, 2020
Maximus69:


Abegi let them continue dreaming of a place that never and will never exist! cheesy

My own concern is to tell them the truth, it is their Church founders that killed people because those ones opposed their demonic teachings!

First century Christians only disfellowship defaulters NOT kill them, but their own Church founders connived with worldly politicians to kill innocent people like William Tyndale! cheesy
Did you actually mean there's nothing like hell fire?or I didn't get you well.If yes that means there's no records or reward for bad deeds,You are very wrong on this

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Nobody: 12:24pm On Jun 12, 2020
Rozz:
Did you actually mean there's nothing like hell fire?or I didn't get you well.If yes that means there's no records or reward for bad deeds,You are very wrong on this

My dear, there are lots and lots of sacred secrets that's been hidden by the churches of Christendom.

There is nothing like Hellfire! smiley

God only had life in mind for Adam and Eve, but they choose death so he (God) is now pleading with Adam's descendants who find themselves in this mess to repent and regain what Adam lost or they will also go to where Adam is which is a return to non-existence. Romans 6:23
God has no plans for evil or evildoers. The only plan he has is good no evil! Jeremiah 7:31, 19:5-6

As for records of bad deeds God's word made it clear that once a sinner dies he has paid FULLY for his wickedness! Romans 6:7
Jehovah can't tolerate looking at evil {Habakkuk 1:13} so instead of keeping account of the deeds of evildoers, he burns their records meaning he has forgotten them for good!
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Acehart: 12:35pm On Jun 12, 2020
Maximus69:


My dear, there are lots and lots of sacred secrets that's been hidden by the churches of Christendom.

There is nothing like Hellfire! smiley

God only had life in mind for Adam and Eve, but they choose death so he (God) is now pleading with Adam's descendants who find themselves in this mess to repent and regain what Adam lost or they will also go to where Adam is which is a return to non-existence. Romans 6:23
God has no plans for evil or evildoers. The only plan he has is good no evil! Jeremiah 7:31, 19:5-6

As for records of bad deeds God's word made it clear that once a sinner dies he has paid FULLY for his wickedness! Romans 6:7
Jehovah can't tolerate looking at evil {Habakkuk 1:13} so instead of keeping account of the deeds of evildoers, he burns their records meaning he has forgotten them for good!

Wonders shall never end. I wish Rozz studies the passages you have quoted from before responding to you. I am happy you have opened up the core of JW theology so that she can see the implications of going through your route; and the kind of person she would become.

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Nobody: 12:49pm On Jun 12, 2020
Acehart:


Wonders shall never end. I wish Rozz studies the passages you have quoted from before responding to you. I am happy you have opened up the core of JW theology so that she can see the implications of going through your route; and the kind of person she would become.
It's not a collective bargaining Sir!
Jesus said we should speak to one person at a time, if one seems not convinced we should move quickly to another person, there is no time to waist.
As for Rozz, she's already feeling the type of person she will be once she's one of Jehovah's Witnesses, so it's left to her if she will cross over all these rivers or stay behind! smiley

Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Nobody: 1:19pm On Jun 12, 2020
Maximus69:

It's not a collective bargaining Sir!
Jesus said we should speak to one person at a time, if one seems not convinced we should move quickly to another person, there is no time to waist.
As for Rozz, she's already feeling the type of person she will be once she's one of Jehovah's Witnesses, so it's left to her if she will cross over all these rivers or stay behind! smiley
Being a jw makes one feel imprisoned, people in jw are strong people I don't have strength lol
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Nobody: 1:31pm On Jun 12, 2020
Rozz:

Being a jw makes one feel imprisoned, people in jw are strong people I don't have strength lol

Hmmmmmmmm, you're right!

Looking at their simple faces, one could only notice the beauty but Rozz i trust you my young lady, you could feel the boldness in those simple faces!

They're worshiping Jehovah, not out of fear for Hellfire but because they love our God! 1Corinthians 13:13

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by orunto27: 8:34pm On Jun 12, 2020
Yes.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Image123(m): 12:21am On Jun 13, 2020
Why sharing Asleep pictures up and down different threads? Lemme go and find that etisalat and mtn picture jare.

Notice the beauty, they are happy, they call not out of fear for Hellfire but because they love our dear network.

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by MuttleyLaff: 2:12am On Jun 13, 2020
Image123:
Why sharing Asleep pictures up and down different threads?
Lemme go and find that Etisalat and Mtn picture jare.
Notice the beauty, they are happy, they call not out of fear for Hellfire but because they love our dear network
[img]https://s2/images/MuttleyDriveLaff.gif[/img]
I am driving ooo, abeggy, lmao
One word: Propaganda

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Anas09: 10:24pm On Jun 14, 2020
TATIME:


When will you guys learn?

Those who killed William Tyndale prevented their contemporaries from knowing that there is nothing like Hellfire and here you're saying they're not the church whereas you are still propagating the lies they forwarded to you the concept of HELLFIRE! undecided undecided undecided
All you talk about is why people did as if those people were living up to the Gospel.
Oh, wait!!!!, I forgot JW has nothing else to talk about except the material world. Emoty souls.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Anas09: 10:28pm On Jun 14, 2020
TATIME:


When will you guys learn?

Those who killed William Tyndale prevented their contemporaries from knowing that there is nothing like Hellfire and here you're saying they're not the church whereas you are still propagating the lies they forwarded to you the concept of HELLFIRE! undecided undecided undecided
Lol. I just watched a testimony of a Jehovah's Witness man who had a Near Death Experience. He went to hellfire, Thankfully, he was rescued by the Lord Jesus. He is now crying warning your floks to repent from your atheistic stance.
I won't even tell you to repent. Keep on propagating the satanic gospel of 'no hellfire' until you enter it. Hahahahahahaha

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Anas09: 10:32pm On Jun 14, 2020
Maximus69:


My friend, that's what they called themselves not what i call them!

It's you now asserting that they're not Christians, meanwhile they were doing so to keep the KJV as the only English version in circulation! cheesy

So if you also condemn other versions of the Bible in favour of the KJV, then know today that you're part of those who murdered William Tyndale! cheesy
Do you even know what it means to be a Christian?
Who says I condemn Bible versions?
The language of the Bible may differ, but the central message which is the Love of Jesus remains. But. You won't know that because all you JW arw interested in is materialistic worldviews.

Everywhere you go, you just argue. WtH?

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:02pm On Jun 14, 2020
ichuka:


If he confesses and repents of his sins .hes forgiven.John20:23,
Remember every child of God has a ministry
According to His Devine purpose which must be fulfilled .

Is making heaven not more important than "fulfilling" your ministry?
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:04pm On Jun 14, 2020
orisa37:




Yes please.

What then should we do with them when they've been caught pants down?
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:22pm On Jun 14, 2020
Image123:


cheesy cheesy cheesy Make my guy no enter the statistics ni, i love my neighbour JW.

Those gathering statistics are not happy with the way Trump blew the cover.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:35pm On Jun 14, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


I would, if I am convinced and convicted in my heart that, it was a lapse of judgement and moment of weakness thing, of which won't repeat itself again

If he had sexually abused your daughter would you be confident to leave her or any other children in his care?

MuttleyLaff:


King David though already anointed king by Samuel, while king Saul was still alive, respected king Saul right on to death, even at one time, when he had the chance to kill king Saul, he spared his life, when king Saul had been finding all sort of ways to eliminate David (i.e. 1 Samuel 24:1-22) If one has the grace, one will comfortably sit under pastor's ministration

Why didn't David comfortably sit under king Saul's "ministration" in the palace, why did he have to run for dear life? undecided
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:39pm On Jun 14, 2020
ichuka:


Goodmorning big bro
U aren't getting the point here.thats why I told u not to quote scriptures out of context.
Let's not start arguing the script u quoted now.
In d OT why is it that King David after killing a man took his wife n God still forgive n affirm him as King?

Good evening my brother. A pastor is not king David, if a pastor commits adultery with a member's wife and proceeds to commit abortion whereby the woman and the unborn baby dies, thus committing double homicide, how could the husband and other children continue to stay under the pastor's ministration? Especially if he has to counsel them how to get over the trauma of losing them wife and mother.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:40pm On Jun 14, 2020
Anas09:


So sins have degree sir?

All sins can be forgiven except that of unbelief.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:42pm On Jun 14, 2020
Anas09:


Is restitution to God or to men?

To man.

Anas09:


Why do we stand in Judgement (God's place) against others.

We must have a conscience void of offence to God and to man.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:45pm On Jun 14, 2020
orunto27:


Yes.

Why permanent, how about being temporarily banned?
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:48pm On Jun 14, 2020
Image123:


Why sharing Asleep pictures up and down different threads? Lemme go and find that etisalat and mtn picture jare.

Notice the beauty, they are happy, they call not out of fear for Hellfire but because they love our dear network.

grin grin grin
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:49pm On Jun 14, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


[img]https://s2/images/MuttleyDriveLaff.gif[/img]
I am driving ooo, abeggy, lmao
One word: Propaganda

You are not supposed to be driving and laughing. cool

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Nobody: 5:42am On Jun 15, 2020
Anas09:

Do you even know what it means to be a Christian?
Who says I condemn Bible versions?
The language of the Bible may differ, but the central message which is the Love of Jesus remains. But. You won't know that because all you JW arw interested in is materialistic worldviews.

Everywhere you go, you just argue. WtH?

Never mind my guy, go to heaven but instead of waiting on earth i think there is a shortcut! cheesy

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