Acehart:


What a funny question!

Which you won't answer because it exposes how utterly cruel such a proposition would be.

LordReed:


Which you won't answer because it exposes how utterly cruel such a proposition would be.

I gave you an answer. Are you the 8 years old child?

LordReed:


Lots of things. One that will instantly change the nature of the world is I would remove from people the power and desire to hurt themselves or one another.

Have you watched iRobot? Do you know what the three laws states? If you have watched it, you will know the final course of the three laws. When you remove from people that power, you have created robots; yet, the laws will be in conflict and robots will eventually become people (humans) - they will have the power and desire to hurt themselves.

Acehart:


I gave you an answer. Are you the 8 years old child?

You didn't. Yes I am that 8 year old child who did naughty things and to think that a god would have punished me for eternity for those things is sickening.

Acehart:


Have you watched iRobot? Do you know what the three laws states? If you have watched it, you will know the final course of the three laws. When you remove from people that power, you have created robots; yet, the laws will be in conflict and robots will eventually become people (humans) - they will have the power and desire to hurt themselves.

You believe that in heaven nobody would do evil or hurt one another yet when I say the the same thing you say I am making robots.

LordReed:


You didn't. Yes I am that 8 year old child who did naughty things and to think that a god would have punished me for eternity for those things is sickening.

It is written in Ezekiel 33: “the Sovereign LORD, am the living God, I do not enjoy seeing sinners die”.

In the scriptures, the term “sinner” or “wicked” is used to describe a hardened offender, a habitual criminal, a regular felon, those whose actions or inactions resist the course of nature etc. No child falls into these descriptions because their innocence restrains them. Then if God does not enjoy seeing sinners condemned, how much more would He not enjoy the condemnation of the innocent?

I hear Abraham say to God: “ You could not possibly do such a thing: to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. You could not possibly do that! Won't the Judge of the whole earth do what is just?"”

All dead babies and children will go to Heaven instantly when they die.

All babies belongs to God, parents are just caretakers! Psalms 127:3
The babies under two years haven't made any friends so they will return to non-existence but those who can talk and have been trained to praise God with their tongues will be remembered, NOT just because God wants them back but because they have made friends with people who are worshipers of God! 1Corinthians 7:14 compare to Malachi 3:16

God bless you!

LordReed:


You believe that in heaven nobody would do evil or hurt one another yet when I say the the same thing you say I am making robots.

On earth, a priori, man had free will; God made him so. If God had made robots programmed not to have free will; the three laws in full consummation will cause man without free will to have free will. If God knows the end from the beginning, He knew it’s a futile venture to make man free will castrated. Yet, man has lost his free will because, ‘For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.‘ So Christ comes to restore free will in man. Free will says: ‘if I want to do good, I do it; if I want to do evil, I will.’

So, in the Heaven of God, everything grandeur about God alone exists, and these things causes the man who finds himself there to desire to do good and will it.

God doesn’t change; if He made man choose between good and evil, and let His goodness persuade man to choose good, He still will cause His goodness persuade those who are Heaven-bound to choose goodness rather than evil.

Acehart:


On earth, a priori, man had free will; God made him so. If God had made robots programmed not to have free will; the three laws in full consummation will cause man without free will to have free will. If God knows the end from the beginning, He knew it’s a futile venture to make man free will castrated. Yet, man has lost his free will because, ‘For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.‘ So Christ comes to restore free will in man. Free will says: ‘if I want to do good, I do it; if I want to do evil, I will.’

So, in the Heaven of God, everything grandeur about God alone exists, and these things causes the man who finds himself there to desire to do good and will it.

God doesn’t change; if He made man choose between good and evil, and let His goodness persuade man to choose good, He still will cause His goodness persuade those who are Heaven-bound to choose goodness rather than evil.

Same difference. I didn't say I would remove all of the ability to choose, there just won't exist the power or desire to hurt another human being.

Between a god that will slaughter billions of humans and one that would remove the power to hurt another human being, I would definitely choose the later.

Acehart:


It is written in Ezekiel 33: “the Sovereign LORD, am the living God, I do not enjoy seeing sinners die”.

In the scriptures, the term “sinner” or “wicked” is used to describe a hardened offender, a habitual criminal, a regular felon, those whose actions or inactions resist the course of nature etc. No child falls into these descriptions because their innocence restrains them. Then if God does not enjoy seeing sinners condemned, how much more would He not enjoy the condemnation of the innocent?

I hear Abraham say to God: “ You could not possibly do such a thing: to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. You could not possibly do that! Won't the Judge of the whole earth do what is just?"”

All dead babies and children will go to Heaven instantly when they die.

So the criteria to enter heaven is no longer belief in Jesus/god?

LordReed:


So the criteria to enter heaven is no longer belief in Jesus/god?

Your highness. The scriptures says all children are God’s children; so is His ownership of those who are in Christ. Have you not read Jesus saying: “I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven.“? Please fall in love with reading the Bible, Your highness.

Acehart:


It is written in Ezekiel 33: “the Sovereign LORD, am the living God, I do not enjoy seeing sinners die”.

In the scriptures, the term “sinner” or “wicked” is used to describe a hardened offender, a habitual criminal, a regular felon, those whose actions or inactions resist the course of nature etc. No child falls into these descriptions because their innocence restrains them. Then if God does not enjoy seeing sinners condemned, how much more would He not enjoy the condemnation of the innocent?

I hear Abraham say to God: “ You could not possibly do such a thing: to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. You could not possibly do that! Won't the Judge of the whole earth do what is just?"”

All dead babies and children will go to Heaven instantly when they die.

Boss, I wasn't disagreeing with you.. I actually thought your answer was a good one, as I mentioned.

Acehart:


Your highness. The scriptures says all children are God’s children; so is His ownership of those who are in Christ. Have you not read Jesus saying: “I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven.“? Please fall in love with reading the Bible, Your highness.

LOL! Then when they stop being children the devil takes them over? LMFAO! This story is just disjointed fiction.

LordReed:


Same difference. I didn't say I would remove all of the ability to choose, there just won't exist the power or desire to hurt another human being.

Between a god that will slaughter billions of humans and one that would remove the power to hurt another human being, I would definitely choose the later.

So, you didn’t say you would remove all the power to choose? Uhm! I hope you play video games; when you have finished an adventure game that gave you so much pleasure, did you throw it away, sell it or burn it? Why? Because it had outlived its usefulness; it became predictable; you could tell each nook and cranny of the plots and could play with your eyes closed.

This means you would kill billions of predictable (robotic) humans if you were made a god. You would be guilty of the same wickedness you attribute to God.

On the other hand, you said you would partially remove the power and desire to hurt; could you let me know how you would do that? Have you not read that “he that sins against one law, sins against all”. You are proposing that you would create a partially corrupt nature. A little lawlessness, would be good enough for you; a creator that does such a thing is vile. Such a thought is an abomination.

jamesid29:

Boss, I wasn't disagreeing with you.. I actually thought your answer was a good one, as I mentioned.

I am sorry if this seemed like a disagreement. It was actually a response to the Lordreed. I’m sorry.

LordReed:


LOL! Then when they stop being children the devil takes them over? LMFAO! This story is just disjointed fiction.

Your highness. Please read. I had said to James earlier that each child is unique in the development and in the knowledge of truth, to know the difference between sin and salvation. Please chew on this.

Can I ask you this: “How many countries have you been to?”

LordReed:


Lots of things. One that will instantly change the nature of the world is I would remove from people the power and desire to hurt themselves or one another.

Makes sense.. Have a good week

Acehart:


I am sorry if this seemed like a disagreement. It was actually a response to the Lordreed. I’m sorry.

No problem boss... Have a good week

jamesid29:

Makes sense.. Have a good week

Wish you same.

Acehart:


So, you didn’t say you would remove all the power to choose? Uhm! I hope you play video games; when you have finished an adventure game that gave you so much pleasure, did you throw it away, sell it or burn it? Why? Because it had outlived its usefulness; it became predictable; you could tell each nook and cranny of the plots and could play with your eyes closed.

This means you would kill billions of predictable (robotic) humans if you were made a god. You would be guilty of the same wickedness you attribute to God.

On the other hand, you said you would partially remove the power and desire to hurt; could you let me know how you would do that? Have you not read that “he that sins against one law, sins against all”. You are proposing that you would create a partially corrupt nature. A little lawlessness, would be good enough for you; a creator that does such a thing is vile. Such a thought is an abomination.

LoL! What a confused jumble. First off, I didn't make the videogame or the rules it follows. So you are blaming me the videogame player for the rules that the designer of the videogame made.

Second, if I were a god I would not make such a universe as we currently have. This universe is uncaring, unfeeling and spares no thought for your sensibilities. The vagaries of life could set you up for death or dismemberment the very next second. This is the universe you think your god made and you want to celebrate your blood thirsty god idea like it's the epitome of morality.

I would be a god and I would use god powers, just like the one you can't explain, that's how I'd do it. LoL.
In removing the power and desire to hurt other humans why would I need to follow your bloodthirsty god's trap setting methods? Your god deliberately sets traps so that it can wreak vengeance. I wouldn't be a bloody minded god so I don't need concepts like sin and abomination. Those are traps that your god set up so that he can find a reason to destroy. I as a god wouldn't need to play such bloody games. After removing the power or desire to hurt other humans you'd be hard pressed to see what humans would do that would deserve punishment on the scale your god likes.

Acehart:


Your highness. Please read. I had said to James earlier that each child is unique in the development and in the knowledge of truth, to know the difference between sin and salvation. Please chew on this.

Can I ask you this: “How many countries have you been to?”

Even the ones that have never heard of your god and his salvation? LoL.

Enough to know human beings are the same no matter where you go.

LordReed:


Even the ones that have never heard of your god and his salvation? LoL.

Enough to know human beings are the same no matter where you go.

Yes. Even the ones who haven’t of the gospel will be saved. Please read everything I wrote - there is no distinction implied. Please, be patient.

Let me say it out loud: All children who face death in this world will make it Heaven, to be with their father!

LordReed:


LoL! What a confused jumble. First off, I didn't make the videogame or the rules it follows. So you are blaming me the videogame player for the rules that the designer of the videogame made.

Second, if I were a god I would not make such a universe as we currently have. This universe is uncaring, unfeeling and spares no thought for your sensibilities. The vagaries of life could set you up for death or dismemberment the very next second. This is the universe you think your god made and you want to celebrate your blood thirsty god idea like it's the epitome of morality.

I would be a god and I would use god powers, just like the one you can't explain, that's how I'd do it. LoL.
In removing the power and desire to hurt other humans why would I need to follow your bloodthirsty god's trap setting methods? Your god deliberately sets traps so that it can wreak vengeance. I wouldn't be a bloody minded god so I don't need concepts like sin and abomination. Those are traps that your god set up so that he can find a reason to destroy. I as a god wouldn't need to play such bloody games. After removing the power or desire to hurt other humans you'd be hard pressed to see what humans would do that would deserve punishment on the scale your god likes.

You are a caring man. The world is a mess and we, both, want it to be better. I hope our expectations will be met someday, when a man would have God’s power to make this world alright.

Have a lovely week.

Acehart:


You are a caring man. The world is a mess and we, both, want it to be better. I hope our expectations will be met someday, when a man would have God’s power to make this world alright.

Have a lovely week.

Wish you the same.

xamuell:
pls be guided. At death, the dead is conscious of nothing. That is not the end though. I will try to refer you to the Bible verse.

please we need that scripture

Andy15:

please we need that scripture

Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

xamuell:
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

So are you saying that there is hope of them coming back to life?

@OP, according to Jesus Christ, to enter the Kingdom of God, you have to become like a child. So, children seem to have guaranteed entry.

You need to worry about your self instead.

Andy15:

So are you saying that there is hope of them coming back to life?

there is. The bible says after death is judgement which either ends in damnation or eternal reward of paradise. It depends on the path you had chosen.

Acehart:
Earlier in the week, a Nigerian Magistrate decided to disqualify charges against a 15-year-old girl detained after killing a man who had attempted to rape her.

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A just judge attends to every case according to its individual merits. If God is a just judge, He must deal with each person according to their individual merits.

When an infant dies, the destination of that infant is Heaven, instantly. Sin, age of accountability and predestination are the parameters are usually the parameters many of us stumble when we try to provide an answer for this very important question. It is only the scriptures that can provide a comforting answer to the anguish many have felt concerning the final destiny of their dead babies.

Let us see the nature of the Judge:

1. God’s thoughts are precious (Psalm 139)

2. God knows everything about us in details before our conception (Psalm 139, Jer. 1).

3. God is a personal creator, He made each baby (Isaiah 46).

4 God regards children; in Ezekiel 16, the Lord describes How he picked up the Israelites as if they were a infant abandoned in the field; He uses Israel to show us that all infants are His children (Ezekiel 16:20) - He loves all of them (Luke 18:16). He rebuked Jonah for praying for damnation of those could not discern their left hand and the right: little children and those mentally incapable of making right judgements.

You may ask when does a child stop being a child, and become accountable? When you consider the nature of everyone, the question should not be about “age of accountability” but the “condition of the individual”; a 30 years old person with down syndrome is “mentally a child”.

All children are unique in their development and exposure to the truth; so, a righteous judge has to consider these conditions. There is nowhere in the Bible where there is a stipulated “age of accountability”; so you have to take your eyes off the calendar. Only God knows the age of accountability.

Any child who hasn’t reached the point of moral culpability, to convincingly understand the difference between sin and salvation, will proceed to Heaven when such a child passes away

Oh, you saw that judgement too? All similar cases ought to follow that path including the lawyer accused of killing her husband.

What think ye?

By the way, beautiful breakdown up there!

Dtruthspeaker:


Oh, you saw that judgement too? All similar cases ought to follow that path including the lawyer accused of killing her husband.

What think ye?

By the way, beautiful breakdown up there!

Hi, I haven’t read the story of the woman killing her husband. My intro was intended to highlight that there are certain concessions that a just judge should have towards children and the vulnerable. It’s possible that the child killed her assailant in self defense; but it is highly unlikely that the murder of the rapist was premeditated especially if that was the first time he tried to defile the minor.

When adults are involved in a crime, then the complexities of the human mind (the type not found in children) are taken into consideration; hence, motive is a very important course during investigation.

All righteous laws are designed to defend the defendant (the accused) until all evidence proves the guilt of the defendant. When the defendant is a child, the law is “tender“, the best interest of the child is considered, even when a sentence pronounced. Even if a child is sentenced to the lake of fire, God in His infinite mercy and kindness wouldn’t let the child stay past a second because a child is a child.

You said, “all similar cases must follow the same path”; I’m not a lawyer but from the little I know, all cases that have similar idiosyncrasies usually have the same judgement; however, all cases are treated based on their peculiarities. If the scripture that says, “That which has been is that which will be, And that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun”, is correct, then judges would have easy judgements each day at the court; but that doesn’t happen, do they? Cases with similar patterns are usually few and far between.

@OP
If you registered for an exam but did sit for that exam. What do you think will be a a fair and just action concerning missing the exam. Is it fair to award you a pass or fail grade although you did not sit for the exam? Is it fair to be given another opportunity to re-take the exam? Best Wishes