davidnazee:
Nobody (including scholars/historians) acknowledges this rubbish you wrote as significant enough to study or research ...

You talk too much.

See attached from Professor R. E. Bradbury himself. The most authoritative historian of all time on Benin History.

Certainly before the Nupe army conquered many territories of Benin Kingdom, an Ibadan military commander, named Aje, had led Ibadan forces to slave-raid Benin Kingdom. He sacked many settlements in Benin Kingdom.

Bradbury suggested that the Ibadan raids may have also continued even after the Nupe invasion of Benin Kingdom.

Reference:
R. E. Bradbury, The Benin Kingdom and the Edo-Speaking Peoples of South-Western Nigeria, p.112.

cc: Metaphysical

davidnazee:
... And for your foolish talk about Benin speaking Yoruba, that is a big lie. It is not written anywhere that Benin spoke Yoruba ...

I hope you find peace soon and also escape the obvious strong deadly grip of inferiority complex.

See attached!

cc: MetaPhysical

davidnazee:
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Nobody (including scholars/historians) acknowledges this rubbish you wrote as significant enough to study or research.
. it’s not true or even if it was, it played no role at all in affecting Benin Kingdom in any way so no attention is paid to this.
However there are numerous books and studies detailing Benin conquests and colonization of the Yoruba people. That is a forever “stain” on your seemingly great history lol.

And for your foolish talk about Benin speaking Yoruba, that is a big lie. It is not written anywhere that Benin spoke Yoruba. But however it is well documented that the Edo language was spoken and understood to some great degree in many parts of Yorubaland. This will be due to the fact that the Edo language was the language of your first colonial masters.

I know you are leaning on Olfert Dapper again.

I told you to stop using that freak as reference.

Is that not the man that said after you wash Benin walls he saw them shine like mirror? Has he ever seen a wall in his own Dutchland shine like mirror after a wash?

This act of sweet patronize is what we call Alaye in Yorubaland. Somebody wants your goods, they praise you to heavens and give narrations of what you can and cannot do....the moreso what you cannot do....beyond practical human endeavor. This swells your ego and you release to them what they want, plus more....including what they didnt ask for. This is how dutch sailors ripped you off.

Olfert Dapper was the Alaye that sang your praises and said things about youbthat was not possible in his own kingdom....or in any kingdom.

Olfert Dapper was a tout! Have you ever seen a wal shine like mirror after washing it? That would be a marble wall. Marble materials are recent discoveries in structural ornaments. Their use is less than 100yrs old.

So stop relying on Alaye Dapper as your authority on history.

TAO11:
Orun Oba Ado --- Literally: The Heaven of ADO Kings.

This site in Ife is know in Ife tradition to be the burial site of the heads of Benin kings.

According to Channels TV who was present live during his visit, Oba Ewuare II himself paid homage at the site during his two-day visit to Osun state in 2018.

Refer to time-stamp 00:24 to 00:34 of the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZhU2AmpvJk

But why does the site's name say Ado?

Was it meant to say Edo?

No, it wasn't meant to say Edo.

It says what it says --- ADO!

Ado is an old name for Benin, used for Benin, by the Binis themselves in early times.


See following for evidence:

MetaPhysical

^^AWESOME!... ADO AKURE?, ADO EKITI?

TAO11:
The name "Ado" in "Orun Oba Ado" is not a Yoruba mistake or misspelling/mispronunciation of "Edo".

In fact, it has nothing to do with the Yorubas, but everything to do with the Binis themselves.

Regarding the historical evidence to demonstrate this, I will turn to only two pieces of independent historical information:

(a) In the Volume 1, Part 3 of Dr. R. E. Bradbury's "The Benin Kingdom and the Edo-Speaking Peoples of South-Western Nigeria", he lists, on page 170, R. E. Dennett's 1903-4 classic amongst his linguistic bibliographies.

The title of R. E. Dennett's work shown under the bibliography helps to shed some interesting light on the name "Ado" for "Benin". The title of the work is as follows:

""Notes of the language of the Efa or Bini, commonly called UZE-ADO." African Affairs, III, ..."

It therefore becomes clear from the foregoing that not only is "Ado" another name for "Benin", it is in fact an endonym.


(b) Furthermore, "The Saturday Review of Politics, Literature, Science and Art", Volume 83, (1897), pp.81-82., reads the following under the sub-heading 'BENIN':

"Another little war is teaching the British taxpayer what there is to know about Benin. It is not much. ... : "The Bight of Benin! the Bight of Benin! From which few come out -- though many go in!" The town of Benin, or Ado, as it is called by its inhabitants, lies some sixty odd miles inland from the coast, ..."

The two foregoing historical information, therefore, show clearly --- without a shred of reasonable doubt --- that the name "Ado" for "Benin" as seen in Orun Oba Ado is in fact astonishingly accurate.

"Ado" as has just been demonstrated was a name for "Benin" by the Binis themselves. You should be grateful to Ife for preserving this quite lost piece of your history.

What about the historical information to support the burial?? See next comments:

^^
NOTE: FROM PG 5 TO PAGE 51!

RuggedSniper:
^^AWESOME!... ADO AKURE?, ADO EKITI?

No! Benin itself was known in ancient times as "Ado" -- by the Binis themselves.

RuggedSniper:
^^
NOTE: FROM PG 5 TO PAGE 51!

I'm lost here. Lol.

MetaPhysical:


Yoruba Empire made Benin Kingdom mighty. Without Yoruba Benin is not a kingdom. Your articles of sovereingty came from Ife Empire.

A mythical town that never existed

gregyboy:


A mythical town that never existed

Hahahahaha. Attachee by force. These people nor dey tire.

Soon they will say the town was like Pompeii and has since disappeared under Osun River.

gregyboy:

A mythical town that never existed

And Benin paid homage to its non-existence.

Wawu!

TAO12:


And Benin paid homage to its non-existence.

Wawu!

Youre always making joke TAO11 be serious for once i will call your mom now....

gregyboy:

[s]Youre always making joke TAO11 be serious for once i will call your mom now.[/s]..

It's an open secret.

It's still happeninng even in modern times.

Ask the Omo N'Oba N'Edo, Oba EwuareII.

Stop pretending to be unaware, Edeyoung.

TAO12:


It's an open secret.

It still happeninng even in modern times.

Ask the Omo N'Oba N'Edo, Oba EwuareII.

You're bored again go chat your brothers

Probably you're Hot, sorry am not interested i heard from the igbos saying yoruba women are dirty in there so i will pass

gregyboy:

[s]You're bored again go chat your brothers

Probably you're Hot, sorry am not interested i heard from the igbos saying yoruba women are dirty in there so i will pass[/s]

No distractions allowed.

Address the isssue.

Benin pays homage to Ife, and it still continues till date. Ask EwuareII -- he did on ascension.

TAO12:


No distractions allowed.

Address the isssue.

Benin pays homage to Ife, and it still continues till date. Ask EwuareII -- he did on ascension.

Boredom

gregyboy:

Boredom

No distractions allowed.

Benin paid (and continues till date to pay) homage to Ife. Ask EwuareII.

Now, this is the issue you're running from.

TAO11:


No distractions allowed.

Benin paid (and continues till date to pay) homage to Ife. Ask EwuareII.

Now, this is the issue you're running from.

I have given enough point on lawanis threads go there and read

I will only reply you when i see archeological or written account of benin-ife, benin-oyo relationship prior from 1475-1897

You to also provide evidence on the fact that ife had ancestoral importance prior from the acient times till 1897

gregyboy:

[s]I have given enough point on lawanis threads go there and read

I will only reply you when i see archeological or written account of benin-ife, benin-oyo relationship prior from 1475-1897

You to also provide evidence on the fact that ife had ancestoral importance prior from the acient times till 1897[/s]

And I strangled you almost to death on that thread. And you managed to escape and ran away for dear life.

I demonstrated the existence of archaeological evidence (dating to the early 1300s) proving Ife's ascendancy over Benin Kingdom.

You ran away never to look back after I proved it.

TAO12:


And I crushed you there.

I demonstrated the existence of archaeological evidence (dating to the early 1300s) proving Ife's ascendancy over Benin Kingdom.

You ran away never to look back after I proved it.

Lol...... This is how far your lie can take you to....

T
Lets assume you're correct what relationship did benin keep with oyo its brother state........


TAO11 is bored she just want to Have a discussion by force

TAO12:


And I strangled you almost to death on that thread. And you managed to escape and ran away for dear life.

I demonstrated the existence of archaeological evidence (dating to the early 1300s) proving Ife's ascendancy over Benin Kingdom.

You ran away never to look back after I proved it.

Show fellow nairaland the other sculpture from ife dating 14c to 15c

gregyboy:
Lol...... This is how far your lie can take you to.... Lets assume you're correct what relationship did benin keep with oyo its brother state

Your contention here is as selfdefeating and selfrefuting as your reply in the conversation below:

Me: Gregyboy, you're so foolish!

You: It's a lie. But let's assume it's true, is my sister also foolish?

I have f*cked you up so badly on the c1300 archaeological evidence for Ife's suzerainty over Benin Kingdom. [See attached for reminder].

I flogged you severely as "gregyboy" on that topic until you fled for dear life and deleted the topic from your list.

You came back weeks later as "Edeyoung" for the same issue you had earlier fled from. You got flogged to death again.

On the relationship with Oyo, they simply see each other as sons of Oduduwa.

This is why whenever Oba EwekaII (who died about 3 decades before the creation of Nigeria) wakes up in the morning, he goes into a narrow room in the palace then wait for the first morning rays of the sun to illuminate the window after which he immediately proceeds to offer supplication to (1) "the Oghene of Ife", (2) the Alaafin of Oyo, before (3) himself, and (4) all other Yoruba kings.

Reference:
Oba Eweka's conversation with the European visitor H.L. Ward Price circa1920 in his Dark Subjects.

Can you now tell us if a similar relationship exist between Benin Kingdom and the Urhobo Kingdom?

[s]TAO11 is bored she just want to Have a discussion by force[/s]

No distractions. My question still stands. Why does Benin Kingdom still continue to pay homage to Ife, even in modern times? Ask EwuareII.

cc: RuggedSniper, MetaPhysical, BabaRamota1980, gomojam, lawani, babtoundey, Moneywomen17

gregyboy:

[s]Show fellow nairaland the other sculpture from ife dating 14c to 15c[/s]

Whom was I showing before when I was drilling your skull on the other threads? ...Dollarlanders??

TAO12:
Your contention here is as selfdefeating and selfrefuting as your reply in the conversation below:

Me: Gregyboy, you're so foolish!

You: It's a lie. But let's assume it's true, is my sister also foolish?

I have f*cked you up so badly on the c1300 archaeological evidence for Ife's suzerainty over Benin Kingdom. [See attached for reminder].

I flogged you severely as "gregyboy" on that topic until you fled for dear life and deleted the topic from your list.

You came back weeks later as "Edeyoung" for the same issue you had earlier fled from. You got flogged to death again.

On the relationship with Oyo, they simply see each other as sons of Oduduwa.

This is why whenever Oba EwekaII (who died about 3 decades before the creation of Nigeria) wakes up in the morning, he goes into a narrow room in the palace then wait for the first morning rays of the sun to illuminate the window after which he immediately proceeds to offer supplication to (1) "the Oghene of Ife", (2) the Alaafin of Oyo, before (3) himself, and (4) all other Yoruba kings.

Reference:
Oba Eweka's conversation with the European visitor H.L. Ward Price circa1920 in his Dark Subjects.

Can you now tell us if a similar relationship exist between Benin Kingdom and the Urhobo Kingdom?



No distractions. My question still stands. Why does Benin Kingdom still continue to pay homage to Ife, even in modern times? Ask EwuareII.

cc: RuggedSniper, MetaPhysical, BabaRamota1980, gomojam, lawani, babtoundey, Moneywomen17

Tao, God bless you jare.
Edeyoung/gregyboy, see your life now. You could have saved yourself these much embarassment but because your Edo ancestral rebellion has eaten deep into your spirit the only thing you know to do is seek banishment, expulsion, exile, poisoning, doublecrossing, cussing and witchery online. Study and copy the lifestyle of your Bini rulers and follow their ways. The Oduduwa way. Learn to accomodate, love, tolerance, leadership, learn civilization.
Bloody slave. Look, Baba lo ma pa e! Let me see you try another witchery here. I will banish you into Abiriba. Yeye thing.

BabaRamota1980:


Tao, God bless you jare.
Edeyoung/gregyboy, see your life now. You could have saved yourself these much embarassment but because your Edo ancestral rebellion has eaten deep into your spirit the only thing you know to do is seek banishment, expulsion, exile, poisoning, doublecrossing, cussing and witchery online. Study and copy the lifestyle of your Bini rulers and follow their ways. The Oduduwa way. Learn to accomodate, love, tolerance, leadership, learn civilization.
Bloody slave. Look, Baba lo ma pa e! Let me see you try another witchery here. I will banish you into Abiriba. Yeye thing.

Lol..... Ife a mythical kingdom formed by samuel johson, he wrote a good novel tho a good fictional novel, he spoilt it when he included benins

But i love the novel the story was captivating

TAO12:


Whom was I showing before when I was drilling your skull on the other threads? ...Dollarlanders??

You too like play this pikin get sense

This is why whenever Oba EwekaII (who died about 3 decades before the creation of Nigeria) wakes up in the morning, he goes into a narrow room in the palace then wait for the first morning rays of the sun to illuminate the window after which he immediately proceeds to offer supplication to (1) "the Oghene of Ife", (2) the Alaafin of Oyo, before (3) himself, and (4) all other Yoruba kings.

Tao12,
Why are we still on this topic of Oba of Benin giving libation to his great great great great grandfather in Ife? Let me see, ok, right now we are on page 5000. . I thought you repeatedly instructed gregyboy on page 1 on same exact subject. . This is his witchery rebellion playing out. Next time you have to teach the uncivilized guy let me know. Im ready to scatter his broomstick during flight. He is rebellious. He can never listen, thats Edo way. Im telling you. Very wicked way.

gregyboy:



Lol..... Ife a mythical kingdom formed by samuel johson, he wrote a good novel tho a good fictional novel, he spoilt it when he included benins

But i love the novel the story was captivating

Shut your mouth!

TAO12:
Your contention here is as selfdefeating and selfrefuting as your reply in the conversation below:

Me: Gregyboy, you're so foolish!

You: It's a lie. But let's assume it's true, is my sister also foolish?

I have f*cked you up so badly on the c1300 archaeological evidence for Ife's suzerainty over Benin Kingdom. [See attached for reminder].

I flogged you severely as "gregyboy" on that topic until you fled for dear life and deleted the topic from your list.

You came back weeks later as "Edeyoung" for the same issue you had earlier fled from. You got flogged to death again.

On the relationship with Oyo, they simply see each other as sons of Oduduwa.

This is why whenever Oba EwekaII (who died about 3 decades before the creation of Nigeria) wakes up in the morning, he goes into a narrow room in the palace then wait for the first morning rays of the sun to illuminate the window after which he immediately proceeds to offer supplication to (1) "the Oghene of Ife", (2) the Alaafin of Oyo, before (3) himself, and (4) all other Yoruba kings.

Reference:
Oba Eweka's conversation with the European visitor H.L. Ward Price circa1920 in his Dark Subjects.

Can you now tell us if a similar relationship exist between Benin Kingdom and the Urhobo Kingdom?



No distractions. My question still stands. Why does Benin Kingdom still continue to pay homage to Ife, even in modern times? Ask EwuareII.

cc: RuggedSniper, MetaPhysical, BabaRamota1980, gomojam, lawani, babtoundey, Moneywomen17

Oghene is ife....... Lol kill me

BabaRamota1980:

Shut your mouth!

#Pained but truth


Ife is a mythical kingdom. I don read yoruba history finish...... Thanks to TAO11

gregyboy:


Oghene is ife....... Lol kill me

Oghene refers to person.

Ife refers to place.

Your Oba EwekaII told Ward-Price that he suplicates to the "Oghene of Ife", et al. every morning.

Yes, he used this precise wording.

Refer to H.L. Ward-Price's Dark Subjects (London, 1939), p.238.

I know I am about to kill you. And I know you hate Oba EwekaII now.

BabaRamota1980:


Tao12,
Why are we still on this topic of Oba of Benin giving libation to his great great great great grandfather in Ife? Let me see, ok, right now we are on page 5000. . I thought you repeatedly instructed gregyboy on page 1 on same exact subject. . This is his witchery rebellion playing out. Next time you have to teach the uncivilized guy let me know. Im ready to scatter his broomstick during flight. He is rebellious. He can never listen, thats Edo way. Im telling you. Very wicked way.

His skull thick. So, I plan to drill it till I reach the vacuum.

TAO12:


Oghene refers to person.

Ife refers to place.

Your Oba EwekaII says he prays suplicates to the "Oghene of Ife". Yes, he used this precise wording.

Refer to H.L. Ward-Price's Dark Subjects (London, 1939), p.238.

I know I am about to kill you.

You didnt learn anything in the previous thread still cycling rubiish.......

Oh boy........ If i see something new then we will talk but fornow nothing

Go and read more take time......

If you got anything new post it,post new findings