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Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by jesustheissue: 9:27am On Jun 21, 2020
I wonder why we bother ourselves with stuff that don't concern us. Why don't we just leave for God that which concerns Him and face that which concerns us! For instance, is eternity certain for you in God's kingdom? How prepared are you to meet with your God? Is Jesus Christ Lord and Saviour of YOUR life?
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Bridget95(f): 9:28am On Jun 21, 2020
CyberEBOLA:
NOBODY IS GOING TO HELL OR HEAVEN!
WAKE UP!


Anyway, where were you before your parents had sex?
That should answer the question.

At death, we simply stop existing!
You don't believe in God but you believe there is Satan.You are being manipulated to wake up in the hell you don't believe exists.Give your life to Jesu Christ and avert had I known.

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Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by molybdenum0012: 9:28am On Jun 21, 2020
In the first place hell is not real, if it were, it would portray our loving heavenly father as cruel and insensitive.


Read on:

Where Are the Dead?

“THE earth is a marketplace; heaven is our home,” say the Yoruba of West Africa. This idea is echoed in many religions. It conveys the notion that the earth is like a marketplace that we visit for a short time and then depart. According to this belief, at death we go to heaven, our true abode.

The Bible does teach that some go to heaven. Jesus Christ told his faithful apostles: “In the house of my Father there are many abodes. . . . I am going my way to prepare a place for you. Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for you, I am coming again and will receive you home to myself, that where I am you also may be.”​—John 14:2, 3.

Jesus’ words do not mean that all good people go to heaven or that heaven is mankind’s home. Some are taken to heaven in connection with rulership over the earth. Jehovah God knew that human governments would never successfully manage affairs on earth. Therefore, he arranged for a heavenly government, or Kingdom, that would eventually take control of the earth and transform it into the Paradise he originally purposed it to be. (Matthew 6:9, 10) Jesus would be King of God’s Kingdom. (Daniel 7:13, 14) Others would be selected from among humankind to rule with him. The Bible foretold that those taken to heaven would be “a kingdom and priests to our God” and would “rule as kings over the earth.”​—Revelation 5:10.

Who Go to Heaven?

Considering the great responsibility these heavenly rulers would have, it is not surprising that they would have to meet strict requirements. Those who go to heaven must have accurate knowledge of Jehovah and must obey him. (John 17:3; Romans 6:17, 18) They are required to exercise faith in Jesus Christ’s ransom sacrifice. (John 3:16) Yet, more is involved. They must be called and chosen by God through his Son. (2 Timothy 1:9, 10; 1 Peter 2:9) Furthermore, they must be baptized Christians who are “born again,” begotten by God’s holy spirit. (John 1:12, 13; 3:3-6) They also need to maintain integrity to God until death.​—2 Timothy 2:11-13; Revelation 2:10.

Countless millions of people who have lived and died did not meet these requirements. Many have had little opportunity to learn about the true God. Others have never read the Bible and know little or nothing about Jesus Christ. Even among true Christians on earth today, few have been chosen by God for heavenly life.

Consequently, the number of those who go to heaven would be relatively small. Jesus referred to such ones as a “little flock.” (Luke 12:32) Later, it was revealed to the apostle John that those “bought from the earth” to rule with Christ in heaven would number only 144,000. (Revelation 14:1, 3; 20:6) When compared with the billions of people who have lived on earth, that is a small number indeed.

Those Who Do Not Go to Heaven

What happens to those who do not go to heaven? Are they suffering in a place of eternal torment, as some religions teach? Of course not, for Jehovah is a God of love. Loving parents do not throw their children into the fire, and Jehovah does not torture people in such a way.​—1 John 4:8.

The prospect for the vast majority of those who have died is a resurrection to an earthly paradise. The Bible says that Jehovah created the earth “to be inhabited.” (Isaiah 45:18) The psalmist declared: “As regards the heavens, to Jehovah the heavens belong, but the earth he has given to the sons of men.” (Psalm 115:16) It is the earth, not heaven, that will be mankind’s permanent home.

Jesus foretold: “The hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice [that of Jesus, the “Son of man”] and come out.” (John 5:27-29) The Christian apostle Paul affirmed: “I have hope toward God . . . that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” (Acts 24:15) On the torture stake, Jesus promised a repentant evildoer life by means of a resurrection into an earthly paradise.​—Luke 23:43.

What, though, is the present state of the dead who will be resurrected to life on earth? An event in the ministry of Jesus helps to answer this question. His friend Lazarus had died. Before Jesus went to resurrect him, He told His disciples: “Lazarus our friend has gone to rest, but I am journeying there to awaken him from sleep.” (John 11:11) Thus Jesus compared death to sleep, a deep sleep without dreams.

Sleeping in Death

Other scriptures harmonize with this thought of being asleep in death. They do not teach that humans have an immortal soul that passes on to the spirit realm at death. Rather, the Bible says: “The dead . . . are conscious of nothing at all . . . Their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished . . . There is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol [the grave], the place to which you are going.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10) Moreover, the psalmist declared that man “goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.”​—Psalm 146:4.

These scriptures make it clear that those sleeping in death cannot see or hear us. They are unable to bring either blessing or calamity. They are not in heaven, nor do they dwell in a community of ancestors. They are lifeless, nonexistent.

In God’s due time, those now asleep in death and who are in his memory will be awakened to life in a paradise earth. It will be an earth cleansed of the pollution, troubles, and problems mankind now experiences. What a joyous time that will be! In that Paradise they will have the prospect of living forever, for Psalm 37:29 assures us: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.”

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I QUIT WORSHIPING THE DEAD

“When I was a boy, I assisted my father during his regular sacrifices to his dead father. On one occasion when my father recovered from a terrible illness, the oracle man told him that in appreciation for his recovery he should offer a sacrifice of a goat, yams, kola nuts, and liquor to his dead father. My father was also advised to appeal to his dead ancestors to ward off further sickness and calamity.

“My mother purchased what was required for the sacrifice, which was to be performed at the grave of my grandfather. The grave was right beside our house, in harmony with local custom.

“Friends, relatives, and neighbors were invited to observe the sacrifice. My father, elegantly clad to fit the occasion, sat on a chair facing the shrine where several skulls of goats that had been used for previous sacrifices were lined up. My job was to pour wine from a bottle into a small tumbler, which I handed to my father. In turn, he poured it out on the ground in sacrifice. My father called on the name of his father three times and prayed to him for deliverance from future calamity.

“Kola nuts were offered, and a ram was slaughtered, boiled, and eaten by all those present. I shared in the eating and danced to singing and the beating of drums. My father danced beautifully and rigorously, even though age was telling on him. At intervals he prayed for his ancestors to bless all those present, while the people, including me, answered Ise, meaning ‘May it be so.’ I watched my father with keen interest and admiration and yearned for the day when I would be old enough to make sacrifices to dead ancestors.

“Despite the many sacrifices offered, peace still eluded the family. While there were three surviving sons of my mother, none of the three daughters born to her lived very long; all died in childhood. When my mother became pregnant again, my father made elaborate sacrifices for the child to be born safely.

“Mother gave birth to another girl. Two years later the child became sick and died. My father consulted the oracle, who said that an enemy was responsible for the death. The oracle said that for the ‘soul’ of the child to fight back, a burning piece of wood, a bottle of liquor, and a young dog were required for the sacrifice. The burning wood was to be placed on the grave, the liquor was to be sprinkled on the grave, and the young dog was to be buried alive near the grave. This was supposed to awaken the soul of the dead girl to avenge her death.

“I carried the bottle of liquor and the burning wood to the grave, and my father carried the puppy, which he buried according to the oracle’s instructions. All of us believed that within seven days the soul of the dead girl would destroy the person who caused her untimely death. Two months passed, and no death was reported in the neighborhood. I became disillusioned.

“I was 18 years old at the time. Shortly thereafter I met Jehovah’s Witnesses, who showed me from the Scriptures that the dead can work neither good nor evil to the living. As knowledge of God’s Word took root in my heart, I told my father I could no longer accompany him to make sacrifices to the dead. At first he was angry with me for deserting him, as he put it. But when he observed that I was not willing to renounce my newfound faith, he did not oppose my worship of Jehovah.

“On April 18, 1948, I symbolized my dedication by water baptism. Since then, I have continued to serve Jehovah with much rejoicing and satisfaction, helping others to get free from the worship of dead ancestors, who can neither help us nor harm us.”​—Contributed by J. B. Omiegbe, Benin City, Nigeria.

https://www.jw.org/en/search/?q=Dead+child+going+to+heaven&link=%2Fresults%2FE%2Fall%3Fsort%3Drel%26q%3D

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Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Emmyj2g: 9:28am On Jun 21, 2020
The soul of the baby is going back to the soul kingdom to prepare itself for another womb.. cool grin

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Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Emmyj2g: 9:30am On Jun 21, 2020
The soul of the baby goes back to the soul kingdom to prepare itself for another womb... grin


Reelafonja:
According to the Bible the yardstick for making heaven is giving your life to Christ. So if a young child dies at a young age and can't confess Jesus as Lord because he/ she can't talk or too young to comprehend.

Will he/she go to heaven.

Bible scholars

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Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by femzybiz(m): 9:30am On Jun 21, 2020
The babies have been bought with the blood ofprecious Jesus Christ, whether their parents are Buddhist, Muslim or any other religions.
they shall possess it.

Matthew 19:13-14
Then children were brought to him that he might lay his hands on them and pray. The disciples rebuked the people, but Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.”

Deuteronomy 1:39
And as for your little ones, who you said would become a prey, and your children, who today have no knowledge of good or evil, they shall go in there. And to them I will give it, and they shall possess it.

Matthew 18:3
And said, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 18:14
So it is not the will of my Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.

So from all these verses, the children that cannot differentiate between good and evil will go to heaven if they die.

Reelafonja:
According to the Bible the yardstick for making heaven is giving your life to Christ. So if a young child dies at a young age and can't confess Jesus as Lord because he/ she can't talk or too young to comprehend.

Will he/she go to heaven.

Bible scholars
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by shantelleasante(f): 9:32am On Jun 21, 2020
CyberEBOLA:
NOBODY IS GOING TO HELL OR HEAVEN!
WAKE UP!


Anyway, where were you before your parents had sex?
That should answer the question.

At death, we simply stop existing!
Tell them o..tell them
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by heftymoore(m): 9:32am On Jun 21, 2020
CyberEBOLA:
NOBODY IS GOING TO HELL OR HEAVEN! WAKE UP!

Anyway, where were you before your parents had sex? That should answer the question.
At death, we simply stop existing!
I agree with you on this!

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Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by heftymoore(m): 9:32am On Jun 21, 2020
CyberEBOLA:
NOBODY IS GOING TO HELL OR HEAVEN! WAKE UP!

Anyway, where were you before your parents had sex? That should answer the question.
At death, we simply stop existing!
I agree with you on this!

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Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by lomprico(m): 9:33am On Jun 21, 2020
sonmvayina:


I don't blame you, as you lack comprehension abilities... Death simply means the spirit returning to God and the body back to the earth..

Why would God send his spirit to hell or his breadth?.. What is the wisdom in it?

Hell fire was created by the Romans just like Jesus..

so you are saying Jesus never existed? the new testament is all lies?
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Edopesin: 9:33am On Jun 21, 2020
lomprico:

hope you know you have not answered the OPs question?

Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Openbusiness: 9:34am On Jun 21, 2020
Reelafonja:
According to the Bible the yardstick for making heaven is giving your life to Christ. So if a young child dies at a young age and can't confess Jesus as Lord because he/ she can't talk or too young to comprehend.

Will he/she go to heaven.

Bible scholars
The baby goes back to Heaven where it came from. Why? Because a baby doesn't have the consciousness of good and evil yet while it is a baby, even though it was born into sin and has the seed or implant of the knowledge of good and evil inside it's DNA. And also because by the finished works of Christ, the keys of hell and death is now with Jesus, meaning that Satan doesn't decide who goes to hell anymore, he can't lay claims to the spirits of men with impunity like he used to do. And finally because God loves children. He said, Allow the children to come to me. So every child that dies is going to Heaven, not by their own power, but by the grace and mercy of God. There is no single baby in hell, not even 1
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Wfsholla90(m): 9:34am On Jun 21, 2020
Can you see how confused Christians are.
It's no doubt Christianity breeds atheism...
When a religion is a source of confusion people will definitely believe an almighty does not exist.
Well lemme tell you somethings about God that you don't know about.
God is not an author of confusion
God is a just God
God never breaks is promises
....
Definition : a child is a human being that has not attained puberty
Islamic Jurisprudence : All child are born as a Muslim, it's either their parent or environment that lead them to Paganism, Christianity and Jews
Thus all children will go straight to heaven
And there is difference between heaven and paradise.
To be continued.
I give sermons to people who are ready to listen.
Cos Islamic knowledge is Gold and diamonds I don't just throw it to the swine
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by AmazingELixir: 9:34am On Jun 21, 2020
Righteousness89:


What is your definition of a young child?

A baby who neither knows right or wrong has no issues.

But in these days where kids are brought up anyhow and Exposed to everything by their parents, they have wat to speak against them..

There is no age limit for that!

There are 4yrs old kids that know More ..

GOD ALMIGHTY knows who is an innocent child and who is not!

That why the scripture says Train up your child in the way he should go! When he is old he will not depart from it!



The baby you refer to is the physical being and on death that physical body decays away...there is the soul(the individual )and the spirit (God in man) the soul is ageless and has imprints of our deeds.

Don't forget the scriptures clearly states that before our birth we are known.

Lemme stop here.
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by sonmvayina(m): 9:34am On Jun 21, 2020
lomprico:


so you are saying Jesus never existed? the new testament is all lies?

Exactly... You will catch on quickly.
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Edopesin: 9:35am On Jun 21, 2020
shantelleasante:
Tell them o..tell them
lmfao you're prolly jw cause most ladies are in denial of this opinion
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by highbee02: 9:36am On Jun 21, 2020
Let me tell u, nobody is going to hell or heaven. After death, microbes and scavengers will decompose the corpse and u eventually form part of the ECOSYSTEM, u add nitrogen to the soil.

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Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Iceberg3: 9:36am On Jun 21, 2020
Reelafonja:



but the Bible says all have sinned and have fallen short the glory of God

Not the children
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by LordOfTheWeed: 9:37am On Jun 21, 2020
CyberEBOLA:
NOBODY IS GOING TO HELL OR HEAVEN!
WAKE UP!


Anyway, where were you before your parents had sex?
That should answer the question.

At death, we simply stop existing!
So much sense in this

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Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by lomprico(m): 9:39am On Jun 21, 2020
sonmvayina:


Exactly... You will catch on quickly.


what about judgement day? will there be anything like that?
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Ramos16(m): 9:40am On Jun 21, 2020
CyberEBOLA:
NOBODY IS GOING TO HELL OR HEAVEN!
WAKE UP!


Anyway, where were you before your parents had sex?
That should answer the question.

At death, we simply stop existing!

Okay, so your arguments is that because we don't remember what happened before our birth there isn't heaven or hell? That is a very stupid way to analyze anything, and I am speaking purely scientifically here.


My question to you now is "do you remember anything about when you were 6 months old or 1 year old"? And I am sure you don't, does that mean you did not exist at that age? I am not the most religious human on earth, not even in my building, but I am sure there is a life after death, don't deceive yourselves with unscientific facts based on bigotry towards Religion .
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by lomprico(m): 9:40am On Jun 21, 2020
Iceberg3:


Not the children

'All'
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Openbusiness: 9:41am On Jun 21, 2020
Wfsholla90:
[s]Can you see how confused Christians are.
It's no doubt Christianity breeds atheism...
When a religion is a source of confusion people will definitely believe an almighty does not exist.
Well lemme tell you somethings about God that you don't know about.
God is not an author of confusion
God is a just God
God never breaks is promises
....
Definition : a child is a human being that has not attained puberty
Islamic Jurisprudence : All child are born as a Muslim, it's either their parent or environment that lead them to Paganism, Christianity and Jews
Thus all children will go straight to heaven
And there is difference between heaven and paradise.
To be continued.
I give sermons to people who are ready to listen.
Cos Islamic knowledge is Gold and diamonds I don't just throw it to the swine[/s]
Did you swear allegiance to Jesus Christ and proclaim him Lord before posting this thrash here? Seun Osewa the karma that will fire you is learning work in Afghanistan. Kwantinu oppressing Christians you hear. Only a matter of time, you will reap the evil you have sowed
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by kayfact123(m): 9:41am On Jun 21, 2020
Even Jesus Christ says in his word "if ye be like the little children.... they are the type that would inherit the kingdom of God.
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by morethanawinner: 9:42am On Jun 21, 2020
Babies born, children and all those who haven't known the law of sin, are alive u to God.
Romans 7:9
[9]For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. If they die in that state, they are children of God and will go to God.

However, 1 Corinthians 7:14
[14]For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
If the parents are unbelieving, the children are unclean. So says the bible
For such children who were made unclean by no fault of theirs, God who is a just judge will determine what to do about it.
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Brightgem(f): 9:43am On Jun 21, 2020
Children have no query to answer before God. They have not reached the age where they have to account for good or bad. So heaven without questions.
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by blazepascal(m): 9:44am On Jun 21, 2020
CyberEBOLA:
NOBODY IS GOING TO HELL OR HEAVEN! WAKE UP!

Anyway, where were you before your parents had sex? That should answer the question.
At death, we simply stop existing!
balderdash
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by realestate99: 9:44am On Jun 21, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
The babies go to hell, any who dies without Jesus goes to hell.

Not to mention we are born sinners.

you are actually correct based on my little findings on this issue, I once asked a pastor and an Islamic scholar on this issue, the pastor said the baby is bound for hell, he quoted psalm 51 vs 5 which says "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me." he argued that since we are all born with/in sin, death at conception means hell, we have to take Jesus as our lord and saviour and our sins would be washed away therefore starting a new life, so as to have a shot in making heaven . About the Islamic scholar, he quoted one of the hadiths, he said all those babies that died on conception would be gathered together on judgement day, they would be directed to hell, on their way to hell, those ones grumbling among them, making a case for themselves saying " but we did not do anything, why are we going to hell?" the grumbling ones would go to hell finally while those ones that did not grumble, that took the judgement in good faith would be recalled back to heaven.
N.B This is not my personal opinion, they are from scholars I respect a lot.............. and I ask questions a lot.

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Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by golddust6000(m): 9:44am On Jun 21, 2020
And the Muslim and budhist goes where?
GRIMMJOE:
The babies go to hell, any who dies without Jesus goes to hell.

Not to mention we are born sinners.
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by iscom(m): 9:44am On Jun 21, 2020
They have a second chance. Jesus will raise them and will preach the world of God to them. Including those that were not baptised. Eg Abraham
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by drehdinho(m): 9:45am On Jun 21, 2020
For those who wonder where the dead ones go after life: take note that there's a confirm money ritual ( the type of money that only the devil can give.)

Also note that there are charms that can be used to hypnotize others. They use this charm to control another man even to the extent of making him spend all his money on whosoever they command him to spend it on.

There are charms that can practically destroy destinies of others.

The long and short of it all is this: there are places for spirituality in this world. The ealier you know this, the better.

So, for all these dark powers to be in existence, definitely human existence is being controlled from the spirit world.

Death is a broad topic. Death is a departure from the world of the living to the world of the dead. Death brings sorrow to those people left behind no matter how bad the dead lived his life when he was alive.

Even if the dead had no family left, whoever that sees such a man at the point of death, nature has made it in such a way that even strangers would emphatise with him.

Death is a decison not usually made by whoever it strikes. Sometimes too, deeds (atrocities or good or wrong commited) while on earth could quicken or lead to one's death.

When human being dies, definitely, there's somewhere he's heading towards. If you ask me why ? I would give my reason as: because so many mystery surrounds the existence of every human being.

Blood of human is a potent power, even his flesh, in fact all parts of human body command some strong spiritual powers that are even hidden to us.

Talking about sex again ? We all know the spiritual connection it breeds between a man and a woman who does it together.

People!!! don't allow anyone deceive you that human existence is just like the regular life of a goat or chicken. Human existence is way more than this.

Do your best while you're on the mother earth. Be good to others and live in peace with all men, so that whichever way it is: either heaven or hell, you know you stand the chance of securing the best of the best option afterlife.

Selah

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Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by stealmatic(m): 9:45am On Jun 21, 2020
CyberEBOLA:
NOBODY IS GOING TO HELL OR HEAVEN!
WAKE UP!


Anyway, where were you before your parents had sex?
That should answer the question.

At death, we simply stop existing!

sense wee not kill u, actually dat is d exact truth, religion was invented when the first con man met the first mumu,ask ur self how many pastors and immam will make heaven,

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