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budaatum:
Leave the mote in my eye for Jesus to pull out and concern yourself with the beam that is in your own eye.

OLAADEGBU:
Atheism is hopelessness.

paxonel:
simply because it is not deeper life that is saying it?
Look, I'm not the one saying it, it's from the bible if you truly you are a Christian why do you doubt resurrection like the Sadducees saying it is fake news?
Follow the logic what the bible is saying, resurrection of the dead is real, if it weren't so Jesus wouldn't have preached it. Matthew 22:31-32.

1 Corinthians 15:35-58 fully and explicitly explain how the dead is resurrected, that death has been defeated through Christ,But you deeper life you will never see that.
You have to study your bible independently and leave church alone.

Through one man(Adam) death came to this world, but Christ has come to restore eternal life back to this same world 1 Corinthians 15:22

1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman(Eve) being deceived was in the transgression.
1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Do you see the emboldened?
It's self explanatory, if you keep doubting it doesn't change the fact the resurrection is real and we are resurrected(saved from death ) through childbearing.

Now look at how Paul further explained this:

1 Corinthians 15:37 And that which thou sowest, THOU SOWETH NOT THAT BODY THAT SHALL BE, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

that means, there is a body that shall be, which is different from what is being sown.

Literally, this means that when a Christian is buried it's like a seed is been sown to the ground. But that same Christian will resurrect spiritually and according to 1 Timothy 2:15, he shall germinate like a seed in the womb of another woman who is Christian, so that the baby will be groomed a Christian by his Christian parent, but this time, with a different body(1 Corinthians 15:38) his body has changed, it will never be recognized that the baby was that same Christian that was once dead.

And why is it for Christians only?

Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

This means, if we be dead as Christians we believe that we shall also be raised as Christians and not as Muslims or any other religion other than Christians, this is why the FAITH is very important, without faith it is impossible to please God.

And we only get that faith only when we are raised by a Christian parent from childhood, not from Islamic parent or parent from other religions.

I'm very sure kumuyi has not reseached his bible to this point

TheSourcerer:
Now in 2020 , where do you think our existence /beign goes or resides when we die ?

My Answer

The same way we knew nothing before we were born so would it be after we die , darkness and blankness
Hbu

Kobojunkie:
I didn't know darkness and blankness before I was born though. I simply don't have a memory/can't seem to recall anything from back then is all.

TheSourcerer:
lol yeah ? Hence the darkness and blankness buddy!

Kobojunkie:
Not the same at all. Darkness and blankness assumes consciousness!

Kobojunkie:
Not the same at all. Darkness and blankness assumes consciousness!

TheSourcerer:
hmm darkness does assume coinsciousness , but doesn't uncoinsciousness percieve blankness?

OLAADEGBU:
You and Al Baghdadi are too far gone.

paxonel:
for Al Baghdadi i don't know what he thinks. But for me i think what the bible as a whole want everyone to understand especially when it has to do with the life of Jesus on earth, his death and resurrection and this kingdom on earth he preached is very far from what the European missionaries who brought Christianity to Africa.
Have you ever travel to Europe, do you see the way these British people and many other people in developed nations of the world practice Christianity? you will cry for Africa

Everytime, i come to nairaland and see what people post or listen to virtually all pastors preaching i pray that one day, God should open the eyes of Africans to see the real truth about this bible.
This bible that I see even illiterate African people are playing about in Africa is a curriculum on it's own .
It takes almost a gifted person with an extra insight with very great intelligence to understand what is in that book, it is not something that anybody will just carry and read.

Truly, it seems we are not afraid of God in this part of the world, we abuse almost everything in our possession.

paxonel:
for Al Baghdadi i don't know what he thinks. But for me i think what the bible as a whole want everyone to understand especially when it has to do with the life of Jesus on earth, his death and resurrection and this kingdom on earth he preached is very far from what the European missionaries who brought Christianity to Africa.
Have you ever travel to Europe, do you see the way these British people and many other people in developed nations of the world practice Christianity? you will cry for Africa

Everytime, i come to nairaland and see what people post or listen to virtually all pastors preaching i pray that one day, God should open the eyes of Africans to see the real truth about this bible.
This bible that I see even illiterate African people are playing about in Africa is a curriculum on it's own .
It takes almost a gifted person with an extra insight with very great intelligence to understand what is in that book, it is not something that anybody will just carry and read.

Truly, it seems we are not afraid of God in this part of the world, we abuse almost everything in our possession.

frosbel2:
lol

OLAADEGBU:
The Bible is simple to understand especially if you want to know and do the will of God.

TheSourcerer:
fvck God
Yeah! Now let God judge .. .

OLAADEGBU:
What are you up to nowadays?

frosbel2:
The usual - work, study and family :-)

And You ?

paxonel:
exactly!
Infact, one do not need to know much in the bible for him to do the will of God.
The will of God is just two :
1. Believe in Christ and be saved(to love God)
2. Love your neighbour as yourself

However, for the purpose of preaching the gospel in order to convince unbelievers to believe in Christ or preventing being deceived by the trends of deceptive preachers that we have today in our society and also to overcome certain temptations, one need to be equipped with the knowledge of the bible

OLAADEGBU:
Still fighting the good fight of faith and keeping safe and on the alert.

frosbel2:

OLAADEGBU:
The irony is that atheists are 100% certain that there is neither God nor afterlife.

Emmanystone:
Lolzzz@ After one is done dying

Freeze007:
Oh please Budatum how can we defeat death?

Is there anyone who has conquered death in whole wide world?

How did the person overcome?

Should we not be looking at ways to defeat death afterall the scripture says death can be overcome

Buda is there anything created that is Everlast?

Buda would you be honest or lie to me?

Buda is Leader Olumba Olumba Obu a better option to my answers that is if you don't have the answers....

budaatum:
No one has yet defeated death, least not anyone I've heard of. Everyone dies eventually, but educate me if you know otherwise.

Freeze007:
That's why you have to learn from the immortal immortality, He is Leader Olumba Olumba Obu.

budaatum:
If I learn from your Leader Olumba Olumba Obu, I would end up believing the crap that you seem to believe that a dead Olumba Olumba is alive though it's his son Raymond that now leads you.

Sorry, but I refuse.

Freeze007:
Now it is crisp.....

Contrary to what his belivers would rather have you think, Olumba Olumba Obu, the man who gathered followers after himself, claiming to be God, has since died.

This much was revealed by one of his former frontline followers who is now a Pentecostal Pastor. This former follower, Pastor Lovina Amangala Iburene of The Truth Ministry/The True Lovers of Christ, World Charity Ministry, Lagos, told News Express that Olumba, whose Brotherhood of the Cross and Star is headquartered in the South-South state of Cross River, died way back in 2003.

According to her, “Olumba gave up the ghost and was secretly buried… He died in the night.” And when asked how she came to know, the firebrand pastor who left Brotherhood of the Cross and Star in 2001 said: “I was informed by an insider.”

Iburene also accused the leadership of the church of sustaining the Olumba myth through sheer deception. Olumba Olumba Obu has yet to be seen in public since 2003. She continues: “The level of deception rose to the stage where if asked by journalists and their members from afar, the answer is always ‘he is sleeping’. To those from nearby places, he has ascended into heaven. Lies upon lies!,” Iburene said.

Olumba had on April 14, 2000, crowned his son Rowland as the “Christ”, the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. Rowland is now effectively in charge of the church.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220511070347/https://www.informationng.com/2012/11/olumba-olumba-long-dead-followers-are-being-deceived-former-avid-follower.html

budaatum:
You should stop trying to recruit me if you believe I am a liar.

His son, the current olumba, is Rowland.

Freeze007:
I think I was deceived by you some time ago, .....