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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by arduino: 5:25pm On Jul 17, 2020
Mspwety1:


There is something called a "zero sum" . That's what it will eventually come to.
Its not close to sustainable. Being super confident is the worst mindset anyone that's jumping in and out of trades should be displaying hence the reason everyone is talking of "school fees".
Very soon this individual will tell you that Warren Buffet is old school and slow and I am sure we all can tell how it will end.
Yes oooohhh.... In premium tears.
Ask Robinhood traders nah grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GonFreecss1: 5:26pm On Jul 17, 2020
phoinix:


Thanks Bro, I actually have stock that are for long term, I enjoy yearly dividends. This is just side hustle.

You are very interesting.

Please keep posting and do update us. grin

Hoping to learn as much as I can from you.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Topson88: 5:26pm On Jul 17, 2020
phoinix:


Thanks Bro, I actually have stock that are for long term, I enjoy yearly dividends. This is just side hustle.

Phoinix, i need to get something clear, are the charges 2 percent of our profit or 2 percent of capital + profit.

If its capital plus profit then am thinking 4 percent will be at a loss because before you made profit at all, about 1 percent of your capital had been deducted from buying the stock, so its like charging your capital twice in the process of buying and selling.

If the percentage is just profit alone, then you seem right pocketing 2 percent out of 4 percent gain... what do you think?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Bikaa27(m): 6:01pm On Jul 17, 2020
RabbiDoracle:


Loco needs a crash course from him. grin grin

Loco does JIJO. We now have a micro JIJOist. grin grin

Abeg I no fit laugh grin grin grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Truth234(m): 6:14pm On Jul 17, 2020
RabbiDoracle:


The document available on NSE website showed that the Chairman of Caverton sold 39m units and not purchased that you wrote.

Thanks bro
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Danniee(m): 7:25pm On Jul 17, 2020
Pls, is Seplat a good buy at 347.40? Kindly advise before I will commit "owo oniru oniyo".
Thanks in anticipation.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 7:54pm On Jul 17, 2020
RabbiDoracle:


Loco needs a crash course from him. grin grin

Loco does JIJO. We now have a micro JIJOist. grin grin

I don already bow for him.
I am waiting for his quick exit and silent guest mode.

Fbn breaking a solid support(#5) is a thing of concern.

Hope price of oil and other news over this weekend can help us next week.

It is well.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 8:00pm On Jul 17, 2020
locodemy:


I don already bow for him.
I am waiting for his quick exit and silent guest mode.

Fbn breaking a solid support(#5) is a thing of concern.

Hope price of oil and other news over this weekend can help us next week.

It is well.

Exit ke, me and you are brothers from different Mamas. I go dey post my trades here, live. Last last all this naysayers go join my ministry, on code. grin grin grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DrAwo(m): 8:06pm On Jul 17, 2020
Danniee:
Pls, is Seplat a good buy at 347.40? Kindly advise before I will commit "owo oniru oniyo".
Thanks in anticipation.
Well, it depends on you eventually...
Seplat has been on full offer at -10% for a while now. When supply exceeds demand, price drops...

So its almost certain that if this full offer continues, Seplat will drop to 347.4... Its only a matter of when someone is willing to cough up the 35million naira approximately that is needed for the price drop to happen.

Will the full offer stop after this price drops? Will someone be willing to cough up another 31 million to make it drop another 10%? At what price will bids appear for this stock Those are questions Mr Market will answer with time....

So, I am asking you your question back, is seplat a good buy at 347.4

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 8:14pm On Jul 17, 2020
FBNH price action must retrace within the magic box.

Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 8:20pm On Jul 17, 2020
phoinix:


Exit ke, me and you are brothers from different Mamas. I go dey post my trades here, live. Last last all this naysayers go join my ministry, on code. grin grin grin

Sorry my brother.Eti is my mirror to fbn and fcmb a mirror to fidelity.If your technicals has nothing to compare,then I pity for you.

With your 10m cash,I hope you will regulate a stock for a longer time until the market stabilizes

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Danniee(m): 8:21pm On Jul 17, 2020
Thanks a lot DrAwo
DrAwo:

Well, it depends on you eventually...
Seplat has been on full offer at -10% for a while now. When supply exceeds demand, price drops...

So its almost certain that if this full offer continues, Seplat will drop to 347.4... Its only a matter of when someone is willing to cough up the 35million naira approximately that is needed for the price drop to happen.

Will the full offer stop after this price drops? Will someone be willing to cough up another 31 million to make it drop another 10%? At what price will bids appear for this stock Those are questions Mr Market will answer with time....

So, I am asking you your question back, is seplat a good buy at 347.4
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by TLAX: 8:22pm On Jul 17, 2020
RabbiDoracle:


There is bewilderment as the global exchanges rages with bull, NSE is trading sideways. Not falling and not going up.

All that needs to be done is just look (like Lookman) and see the direction the market takes.

It has thrown confusion to chart lookers. grin grin

If market remains irrational like this, then smart investors will activate the dividend waiting mode and observe when the market finishes playing its games.

There is no bewilderment. The Fed money you were waiting for is not coming. The FPIs that are already inside are looking for ways out. The local players with financial muscle are doing siddon look. If the index can get back to January 2020 level before year end it should be considered a win.

One way of making money from stock investment i.e. dividend is still viable. Better in those that pay twice if bought at the right price.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by CashDiMkpa: 8:25pm On Jul 17, 2020
Mcy56:


....but I think market will still respond, even if it's for short period.
If GTB and Zenith could deliver and pay good interim dividends, market might generally respond positively.
It's just my opinion.

That dividend is already priced in. It can only move price of companies without interim dividend history if they decide to surprise the market. Did you not notice final dividend had marginal impact on prices of most stocks with notable exceptions being those that combined it with bonus?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 8:26pm On Jul 17, 2020
locodemy:


Sorry my brother.Eti is my mirror to fbn and fcmb a mirror to fidelity.If your technicals has nothing to compare,then I pity for you.

With your 10m cash,I hope you will regulate a stock for a longer time until the market stabilizes

Lol, 10m I see, u have been doing some digging. cheesy wink
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DrAwo(m): 8:27pm On Jul 17, 2020
Danniee:
Thanks a lot DrAwo
My point was just that no one can tell if 347.4 is the bottom. It can suddenly rebound or dig further... Seeing their Q2 result before deciding might be prudent....

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by CashDiMkpa: 8:28pm On Jul 17, 2020
Lion123:


Interim dividends won't change anything, I'm afraid. It all boils down to the uncertainty regarding the current FX regime and general macroeconomic factors. Foreign Investors who drive activity in the capital markets are wary of Buhari and Godwin Emefiele's Nigeria at the moment.

You have said it all. The half hearted attempts Emefiele is making to enable Nigeria draw down on the World Bank loan has not worked yet.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by CashDiMkpa: 8:31pm On Jul 17, 2020
phoinix:


I know bro, the charges should be about 2% .

This kind of market is good for quick get in and out. The 2% will cover some weekend expenses, hopefully.

grin grin grin grin

Weh done o.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by CashDiMkpa: 8:37pm On Jul 17, 2020
phoinix:


What school fees? If you are offered 2% or 0% today, which will you choose as a rational human being? Will it make a difference if a third party is making same as u or even higher off ur deal?

Besides, the market has been sideways for over 3 weeks, do you think it will start trending next week?

Do you know that if the market persists with its choppy nature I will make more than you who is waiting for that 10%. I need 6 times 2%.

There is only a 33% probability it will rise higher than N5. That means the odds are stacked against you making that 2%. Looking at the closing price now I see that it closed flat. I hope you got your 20k or 2% from that trade.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 8:45pm On Jul 17, 2020
CashDiMkpa:


There is only a 33% probability it will rise higher than N5. That means the odds are stacked against you making that 2%. Looking at the closing price now I see that it closed flat. I hope you got your 20k or 2% from that trade.


How did you get 33%?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 8:48pm On Jul 17, 2020
phoinix:


Lol, 10m I see, u have been doing some digging. cheesy wink

Don't be like 333 my friend who was exhausted in this journey.I told him thru email,but he couldn't listen.

This market has something to do with experience and time apart from TA / FA.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by TLAX: 8:58pm On Jul 17, 2020
phoinix:


I know bro, the charges should be about 2% .

This kind of market is good for quick get in and out. The 2% will cover some weekend expenses, hopefully.

Hmmm....Day trading on NSE? Day trading with FBNH? Please tell us how it pans out after several trades. Maybe I will be tempted.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Krisuba: 10:36pm On Jul 17, 2020
Dear phoinx u better sit back n recheck this ur strategy because it seems no other person seem to make sense from this ur 2% strategy. Money is blood. Do not waste it deliberately!!

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 1:49am On Jul 18, 2020
CashDiMkpa:


There is only a 33% probability it will rise higher than N5. That means the odds are stacked against you making that 2%. Looking at the closing price now I see that it closed flat. I hope you got your 20k or 2% from that trade.


I actually took some time to calculate the probability of hitting 5.2

From the chart I posted above out of 24 bars, 7 crossed the 5.2 mark with good margin. Meaning that in the last 24 trading days, 7 of these days traded at 5.2 atleast briefly.

The probability of hitting 5.2 is 7÷24 = 0.29 or 29%. Meaning that each subsequent trading day has a chance of 29%, individually.

Now, the fun part. What is the probability that price will trade at 5.2 atleast once in the next 4 days (Monday to Thursday) ?

I like using the complement as it makes things easier.

Probability that price will not hit 5.2 in a given day is 1-0.29 = 0.708 or 71%

Probability that price will not hit 5.2 not even once in 4 days is 0.708^4 = 0.25 or 25%

Finally, probability that price will hit 5.2 atleast once in 4 days is 1-0.25 = 0.75 or 75%

Conclusion: there is a 75% chance that my exit point will actualize within the next 4 trading days.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by robobo: 6:15am On Jul 18, 2020
TLAX:


There is no bewilderment. The Fed money you were waiting for is not coming. The FPIs that are already inside are looking for ways out. The local players with financial muscle are doing siddon look. If the index can get back to January 2020 level before year end it should be considered a win.

One way of making money from stock investment i.e. dividend is still viable. Better in those that pay twice if bought at the right price.

My Oga i totally agree with u but nevertheless i think it wld come (i.e. Fed Money) though it wld be late and might not be much. The reasons are Meffy wld eventually resolve the FX issues (possibly b4 d year end), d printing is going to be on till 2022 (as guided by Powel), So my take is if Meffy solve d FX issues before end of q1 2021 some of it wld eventually find its way down.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by CashDiMkpa: 7:35am On Jul 18, 2020
phoinix:


I actually took some time to calculate the probability of hitting 5.2

From the chart I posted above out of 24 bars, 7 crossed the 5.2 mark with good margin. Meaning that in the last 24 trading days, 7 of these days traded at 5.2 atleast briefly.

The probability of hitting 5.2 is 7÷24 = 0.29 or 29%. Meaning that each subsequent trading day has a chance of 29%, individually.

Now, the fun part. What is the probability that price will trade at 5.2 atleast once in the next 4 days (Monday to Thursday) ?

I like using the complement as it makes things easier.

Probability that price will not hit 5.2 in a given day is 1-0.29 = 0.708 or 71%

Probability that price will not hit 5.2 not even once in 4 days is 0.708^4 = 0.25 or 25%

Finally, probability that price will hit 5.2 atleast once in 4 days is 1-0.25 = 0.75 or 75%

Conclusion: there is a 75% chance that my exit point will actualize within the next 4 trading days.

So you now see that the odds were against you winning that trade on Friday and spending that 20k this weekend. Your day scalping or day trade set up failed cos once it does not perform in minutes or intra day it has failed. Scalping may appear like taking random positions but it requires statistical modeling.

Again it's not all stocks that you can successfully do day trading on. FBNH will be a difficult set up cos of its character. You may still win with it but just be aware any day trade or scalping win here is pure luck. Enjoy.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by IYGEAL(m): 7:42am On Jul 18, 2020
phoinix:


I actually took some time to calculate the probability of hitting 5.2

From the chart I posted above out of 24 bars, 7 crossed the 5.2 mark with good margin. Meaning that in the last 24 trading days, 7 of these days traded at 5.2 atleast briefly.

The probability of hitting 5.2 is 7÷24 = 0.29 or 29%. Meaning that each subsequent trading day has a chance of 29%, individually.

Now, the fun part. What is the probability that price will trade at 5.2 atleast once in the next 4 days (Monday to Thursday) ?

I like using the complement as it makes things easier.

Probability that price will not hit 5.2 in a given day is 1-0.29 = 0.708 or 71%

Probability that price will not hit 5.2 not even once in 4 days is 0.708^4 = 0.25 or 25%

Finally, probability that price will hit 5.2 atleast once in 4 days is 1-0.25 = 0.75 or 75%

Conclusion: there is a 75% chance that my exit point will actualize within the next 4 trading days.

Man you actually don't have enough experience in this despite claiming the opposite. I figured when you didn't know that moving the price of Seplat would take more money than FCMB.

In your probability calculations, how do you factor in your volume? If price did hit 5.2, how about volume? It might just be a few hundreds trading at that price.

In fact, if you did buy FBNH at 5 naira, 5.2 might not even be your BEP let alone making 2% at it.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 7:47am On Jul 18, 2020
TLAX:


There is no bewilderment. The Fed money you were waiting for is not coming. The FPIs that are already inside are looking for ways out. The local players with financial muscle are doing siddon look. If the index can get back to January 2020 level before year end it should be considered a win.

One way of making money from stock investment i.e. dividend is still viable. Better in those that pay twice if bought at the right price.

grin grin

Na look I go just dey look you when e start.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DUNKA(m): 8:35am On Jul 18, 2020
Good day All,

Please does any one know which Registrars do online activation of an e- divided mandate?

Kindly advise names
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GonFreecss1: 9:26am On Jul 18, 2020
DUNKA:
Good day All,

Please does any one know which Registrars do online activation of an e- divided mandate?

Kindly advise names

Africa Prudential (Afriprud)
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Ibrahim505(m): 9:30am On Jul 18, 2020
DUNKA:
Good day All,

Please does any one know which Registrars do online activation of an e- divided mandate?

Kindly advise names
Africa Prudential registrars
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 10:31am On Jul 18, 2020
IYGEAL:


Man you actually don't have enough experience in this despite claiming the opposite. I figured when you didn't know that moving the price of Seplat would take more money than FCMB.

In your probability calculations, how do you factor in your volume? If price did hit 5.2, how about volume? It might just be a few hundreds trading at that price.

In fact, if you did buy FBNH at 5 naira, 5.2 might not even be your BEP let alone making 2% at it.

Given that the list traded volume in the last 24 trading days is 4 million units, my small 105k will likely be filled if price gets to 5.2 .

Regarding SEPLAT and FCMB, are you serious? Do you need experience to know that 1.9 is much smaller than 347?

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