cornelboy:
Trinitarians say God and Jesus are co-equal, are they really co-equal
Acts 2:36, God made Jesus both our Lord and Saviour.
In another verse, "he was exalted to the right hand of God".
Also, all powers were given unto him.
Also, he was annointed by God, Hebrew 1:9.
In another, he will be made subjected to God at the end, 1 Corinth 15:24-28.
1 Corinth. 11:3, "God is the head of Christ".



Could God and Jesus be CO-EQUAL as Trinitarians say

You've clearly seen that all their arguments are blind. They can twist whatever scripture they want so it can agree on terms with their nameless trinity god

cornelboy:
I'm not a JW but I agree with you bcause it's the Biblical truth.

Jesus is a God, but not the Almighty GOD, YAHWEH.

Did you later check out the website?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ is the Word out of God's own mouth...every Word that comes out of the mouth ofGod. The truth of God

When Jesus prayed
To who did he pray?

Roseey0:


When Jesus prayed
To who did he pray?

He prayed to God His Father, the one from whom He was begotten from.

cornelboy:
God is supreme over all, He is all in all.

If all are working for one, the God almighty, Then there is no supremarcy

Kobojunkie:
why do you ask ?

In your position as God word made flesh. Means The father is same but only took a body called Jesus

Kobojunkie:
He prayed to God His Father, the one from whom He was begotten from.

Will you pray to yourself?

Roseey0:
In your position as God word made flesh. Means The father is same but only took a body called Jesus

According to Jesus Christ, He is the Word out of God's mouth... Not the Body, or the mind, or the Spirit, or the intelligence, but the Word of God... The Truth of God. So, Jesus Christ is the Word that comes out of God's mouth made flesh. He was begotten from God Himself.

Roseey0:
Will you pray to yourself?

I have spoken to my spirit before, and I have worked on my mind and my body, me being the soul. So technically, I do "pray" to myself,

Anyways, to details of Christ's Relationship is available tp anyone with an open mind in the gospel according to John.

cornelboy:
but the Bible says "one God in one person" who is the Father

where does the say God in one person?

cornelboy:
you think you understand, but really you are far from the biblical truth.

In Revelation 4 an 5, who sits on the throne, is it the Trinity or the Father
Who is the Lamb

The Holy Spirit does not need to be on the throne, In fact the fact that the Holy Spirit was not seen on the throne points to differences in roles within the God head.

cornelboy:
there is only one God, the Father, no double meaning.

so if there is only one God how come Jesus is also God?
How come you call Jesus mighty God and the father Almighty God?

solite3:
so if there is only one God how come Jesus is also God?
How come you call Jesus mighty God and the father Almighty God?

Plot twist!
How come Moses became like God in Pharaoh's eyes? Does that mean Moses was now God? Exodus 7:1

You'll confuse yourself today just watch

DappaD:

Plot twist!
How come Moses became like God in Pharaoh's eyes? Does that mean Moses was now God? Exodus 7:1

You'll confuse yourself today just watch

Moses became like God in pharaohs eyes, is it the same as Moses is God?

solite3:
Moses became like God in pharaohs eyes, is it the same as Moses is God?

Fine! Thank you!
That Jesus is called the “Mighty God” at Isaiah 9:6, does that mean he is the same as Jehovah the “God Almighty”? Genesis 17:1
I said it you're going to fall into my trap today

yes, It means He is the same as Jehovah,
you keep digging your own pit at every turn.

Jeremiah 32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name,

Mr Dappa from this verse what is the name of the mighty God?
Remember, 'The LORD' means Jehovah or Yahweh.

can you see that the Almighty God is also the one called the mighty God and his name is Jehovah.

DappaD:

Fine! Thank you!
That Jesus is called the “Mighty God” at Isaiah 9:6, does that mean he is the same as Jehovah the “God Almighty”? Genesis 17:1
I said it you're going to fall into my trap today

solite3:
yes, It means He is the same as Jehovah,
you keep digging your own pit at every turn.

Jeremiah 32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name,

Mr Dappa from this verse what is the name of the mighty God?
Remember, 'The LORD' means Jehovah or Yahweh.

can you see that the Almighty God is also the one called the mighty God and his name is Jehovah.

That is why I earlier asked you to explain something.
Can you please explain to the forum the meaning of Psalm 110:1? Don't dodge this please.

solite3:
yes, It means He is the same as Jehovah,
you keep digging your own pit at every turn.

Jeremiah 32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name,

Mr Dappa from this verse what is the name of the mighty God?
Remember, 'The LORD' means Jehovah or Yahweh.

can you see that the Almighty God is also the one called the mighty God and his name is Jehovah.

And also can you please point out where the Bible said Jesus left a mysterious godhead and became a man?
If you're about to quote Philippians 2:6,7 & Hebrews 2:9, then you're wrong because that passage doesn't support your doctrine at all as it only points to Jesus having a prehuman existence before he came to the earth. And that there's enough Scriptural evidence for that as well.
You'll gradually see that this your trinity is an invention of your church fathers and pastors

solite3:
yes, It means He is the same as Jehovah,
you keep digging your own pit at every turn.

Jeremiah 32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name,

Mr Dappa from this verse what is the name of the mighty God?
Remember, 'The LORD' means Jehovah or Yahweh.

can you see that the Almighty God is also the one called the mighty God and his name is Jehovah.

Coming back to Exodus 7:1, Moses became like God to stand before Pharaoh because he was given divine power and authority from the One above, Jehovah!
Likewise too, Jesus also has divine power and authority that was given to him by His Father Jehovah! Matthew 28:18
So yes, Jesus is of divine nature but he is not the Almighty God Jehovah.
These two cannot be mixed together!

DappaD:

That is why I earlier asked you to explain something.
Can you please explain to the forum the meaning of Psalm 110:1? Don't dodge this please.

Psalms 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

what do you want me to explain?

DappaD:

And also can you please point out where the Bible said Jesus left a mysterious godhead and became a man?
If you're about to quote Philippians 2:6,7 & Hebrews 2:9, then you're wrong because that passage doesn't support your doctrine at all as it only points to Jesus having a prehuman existence before he came to the earth. And that there's enough Scriptural evidence for that as well.
You'll gradually see that this your trinity is an invention of your church fathers and pastors

where did I ever say such? mr man, you are disillusioned, Jesus had pre earthly life, yes but Jesus is God, simple.

DappaD:

Coming back to Exodus 7:1, Moses became like God to stand before Pharaoh because he was given divine power and authority from the One above, Jehovah!
Likewise too, Jesus also has divine power and authority that was given to him by His Father Jehovah! Matthew 28:18
So yes, Jesus is of divine nature but he is not the Almighty God Jehovah.
These two cannot be mixed together!

But Almighty God Jehovah is the same as the Mighty God.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


Jeremiah 32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name,


Who is the mighty God?

according to Jeremiah, It is Jehovah
so after all, the Almighty God is the same as the Mighty God and his name is Jehovah.
so Jesus is the mighty God therefore Jesus is Almighty God Jehovah.

solite3:


Psalms 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

what do you want me to explain?

Identify the two Lords in the paragraph. Was one person talking to himself?

solite3:

But Almighty God Jehovah is the same as the Mighty God.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


Jeremiah 32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name,


Who is the mighty God?

according to Jeremiah, It is Jehovah
so after all, the Almighty God is the same as the Mighty God and his name is Jehovah.
so Jesus is the mighty God therefore Jesus is Almighty God Jehovah.

Note that Isaiah 9:6 said Jesus will be called “Mighty God”
Are you trying to say God has never been the Almighty? There clearly is referring to an event later in the future concerning Jesus as he will fill that position as a “Mighty God”
Other verses that refer to Jehovah as “Mighty God” or “Mighty One”, note that the verses acknowledge that he has always been “Mighty God” or “Almighty God”
Whereas in Jesus case it refers to a position he will fill as King in God's Kingdom, hence “he will be called the Mighty God” (Isaiah 9:6)

solite3:


where did I ever say such? mr man, you are disillusioned, Jesus had pre earthly life, yes but Jesus is God, simple.

Okay so you want to contend with what the scriptures says abi

When the Bible said that Jehovah is the Most High (Psalm 83:18)

And that Jesus is the Son of the Most High (Luke 1:31-33)

Do you mean to tell me that you will openly ignore who the Bible says Jesus(i.e God's Son) is, just to pursue your own agenda?

solite3:

But Almighty God Jehovah is the same as the Mighty God.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


Jeremiah 32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name,


Who is the mighty God?

according to Jeremiah, It is Jehovah
so after all, the Almighty God is the same as the Mighty God and his name is Jehovah.
so Jesus is the mighty God therefore Jesus is Almighty God Jehovah.

Angels are also described as being mighty spirit beings (Psalm 103:19,20) because Jehovah and his Son Jesus and the rest of the angels in heaven are all Mighty and powerful spirit beings. But the term “El Shaddai” (God Almighty) is designated to one Person alone, Jehovah.

DappaD:

Note that Isaiah 9:6 said Jesus will be called “Mighty God”
Are you trying to say God has never been the Almighty? There clearly is referring to an event later in the future concerning Jesus as he will fill that position as a “Mighty God”
Other verses that refer to Jehovah as “Mighty God” or “Mighty One”, note that the verses acknowledge that he has always been “Mighty God” or “Almighty God”
Whereas in Jesus case it refers to a position he will fill as King in God's Kingdom, hence “he will be called the Mighty God” (Isaiah 9:6)

you are not making sense,
are you saying God gave his own title to someone else?

Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Jehovah cannot give his title to another,

Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

From these verses Jehovah does not change meaning he remains the mighty God and he would not give his title to another being.

so Jehovah is still the mighty God and yet Jesus is the mighty God, therefore Jesus is Jehovah God.

DappaD:

Angels are also described as being mighty spirit beings (Psalm 103:19,20) because Jehovah and his Son Jesus and the rest of the angels in heaven are all Mighty and powerful spirit beings. But the term “El Shaddai” (God Almighty) is designated to one Person alone, Jehovah.

any body can be called mighty but only Jehovah God can be referred to as the Mighty God no other being can bear this title.

DappaD:

Identify the two Lords in the paragraph. Was one person talking to himself?

The LORD referred to the father, a person of the trinity and the Lord referred to Jesus who is another member of the trinity in his position as the Christ.

delkuf:
God is three in one. I don't know what is so worked up about the Trinity. God is one with the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit.

How can God be the creator of all things.. And still be part of creation?... Think it through before you answer.

solite3:
any body can be called mighty but only Jehovah God can be referred to as the Mighty Almighty God no other being can bear this title.

You're mixing the two again!
You've not still answered me, when Jehovah empowered Moses to be like God in Pharaoh's eyes, did that make him the same person as Jehovah?

solite3:
The LORD referred to the father, a person of the trinity and the Lord referred to Jesus who is another member of the trinity in his position as the Christ.

You see how silly you sound now!
You were the one advocating that your trinity god is just one right?

solite3:


Trinity simply state that there is only one being, God

So why the separation into two people now?