DappaD:

Lol. This caught my attention.
So now, can you please explain 1Chronicles 29:23 & Revelation 3:21?

solite3:

The throne of God in the new earth is where the father and the son sit together

Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

He said God himself will dwell on earth, meaning God the father and Son will be on the same throne because there will be only one throne on earth and that throne where the father and the Son will sit together.

solite3:



1 Chronicles 29:23 Then Solomon sat on the throne of the LORD as king instead of David his father, and prospered; and all Israel obeyed him.

The throne of Israel orignally belongs to God but anointed kings to sit on it, hence it also temporary belongs to the king that sat on it. So the throne of David also was transferred to solomon and then to his descendant but God is the permanent owner of the throne.

It does not mean the throne of Israel is where God sits.


Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.


Jesus throne means his earthly throne when he comes back in the millennium not his father's throne.

Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

solite3:



Jesus throne means his earthly throne when he comes back in the millennium not his father's throne.

solite3:
The throne of God in the new earth is where the father and the son sit together,

Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

He said God himself will dwell on earth, meaning God the father and Son will be on the same throne because there will be only one throne on earth and that throne where the father and the Son will sit together.

Maximus69:


You people with this TRINITY hen!

God told Samuel that Israel rejected him (God) as their King, but Samuel should appoint for them a human ruler. Please any king sitting on that throne is representating who on that throne?

Well such a king is sitting on God's throne, that's exactly what Jesus will do for 1,000 years until he hands over the whole rulership back his father and God! 1Corinthians 15:26-28

DappaD:


A 10year old JW will rubbish every single thing you've pointed out here
Talk less of an adult

solite3:
yes those king where representing yahweh.
Yes of course after Christ reign on earth he will hand over the messianic kingdom to the father.

Maximus69:


So how will he hand over when the scriptures say the Christ will rule forever? Isaiah 9:7

DappaD:
Please what is this boy saying?

DappaD:


Very good. Now please explain this to DrLiveLogic and ask him if Jehovah is the same as Jesus.

@ the words I bolded, what are you saying abeg?

Maximus69:


If we ask them to study God's word, they will say holy ghost will teach them, now explain what the so called holy ghost taught you using God's word , they're saying it will teach everyone, so if that's the case how come Jesus sent his followers to go out there and TEACH people all that he has commanded!

JEHOVAH and Jesus will share the same throne all because you want to explain away your TRINITY!

solite3:
how will you understand when you are brainwashed with Jehovah witness crap.

solite3:

When has handing over his messianic kingdom mean that Jesus would stop reigning?

DappaD:

If I want to confuse you here I will do so.

So you're saying God and Jesus will come to the earth and sit on one throne together?

Okay! So what will happen in the “new heavens” ??Isaiah 65:17, 66:22, 2Peter 3:13, Revelation 21:1

solite3:
confuse me? You cant.

What about the new heaven?

solite3:
The throne of God in the new earth is where the father and the son sit together,

DappaD:


This is what you said —


What will then happen in the “new heavens” according to Isaiah, Peter and John's accounts?

solite3:
what about it

solite3:
what about it

solite3:
what about it

DappaD:

If I want to confuse you here I will do so.

DappaD:


Answer me oga solite3
What are the “new heavens” and what will happen there ??

Maximus69:


By then their TRINITY will turn to TWONITY, since only Jehovah and Jesus are the real persons and there is nowhere to place their holy ghost!

UsmanBabaIdris:
If the doctrine of the Trinity is correct- and the church does indeed declare that it is the most important theological teaching of Christianityï then why did it take over 350 years for Christians to figure it out? This long history of the development of the doctrine of the Trinity makes it suspicious, suggesting that this teaching is of men and not of God.

We allege that the doctrine of the Trinity is confusing, contradictory, irrational, unbiblical, and thus wrong. The church has defended its Trinitarianism against these allegations mostly by claiming it is a mystery that humans can't understand. But this foolish admission renders those church fathers who formulated it as not understanding it either! Moreover, this defense can be applied to any false teaching.

Trinitarianism does not represent the beliefs of the Christians of the first century. Furthermore, we think those Jewish Christians were strict monotheists who had never heard of the notion that their one God consists of three persons. Nor did they believe in the so-called Incarnation - the preexisting God the Son coming down from heaven to become the man Jesus.

Jesus said in John 17:3
"Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God , and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."

Notice how the Father is being referred to as THE ONLY TRUE GOD.

How is it possible for the Father to be the ONLY true God, while at the same time the Son and Holy Spirit are God as well? If the Son and Holy Spirit are God as well, then it is false to say that the Father is the ONLY true God.

Thus, in light of John 17:3 we see that the concept of Trinity is logically incoherent. It is not simply a matter of it being beyond our logic, but AGAINST our logic. If it is AGAINST our logic then that means that it is a false belief.

GOD is ONE in both Essence and Person!

solite3:


Are you ok?

solite3:



1 Chronicles 29:23 Then Solomon sat on the throne of the LORD as king instead of David his father, and prospered; and all Israel obeyed him.

The throne of Israel orignally belongs to God but anointed kings to sit on it, hence it also temporary belongs to the king that sat on it. So the throne of David also was transferred to solomon and then to his descendant but God is the permanent owner of the throne.

It does not mean the throne of Israel is where God sits.




Revelation 3:21 "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."
Jesus throne means his earthly throne when he comes back in the millennium not his father's (heavenly)throne.

Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


Edited.

After all the noise solite3 done make upandan
Solite3's Jesus the almighty God in heaven get him heavenly Father wey own the throne whereas,
Jesus almighty God no get throne in heaven, na him Father throne

Bros, your MUMU done do cast

Janosky:

After all the noise solite3 done make upandan
Solite3's Jesus the almighty God in heaven get him heavenly Father wey own the throne whereas,
Jesus almighty God no get throne in heaven, na him Father throne

Bros, your MUMU done do cast

Janosky:


That question is meant for you,Solite3 to answer.

Ezekiel 3:24 Then the spirit entered into me, and set me upon my feet, and spake with me, and said unto me, Go, shut thyself within thine house."

If solite3 is ok, I won't need to school him about this fact he wants to ignore;
Your Trinitarian Bible footnotes says "the spirit" is "wind" .
Bros, Wind na person?
Wind get mouth to speak to Prophet Ezekiel ?


Bros, your radio/TV speaks to you, is your radio/TV a person?

If you understand how your radio/ TV speaks, then you have understood how the wind spoke to Prophet Ezekiel

johnw47:





oh so dum dum false jw janosky

you don't believe the Holy spirit entered and spoke to ezekiel
but that is was the wind speaking, laughing
the wind entered ezekiel and spoke to him, ha ha ha

spirit isn't just wind, not just breath, but life and mind as well, and more:

Hebrew
רוּחַ
rûach
roo'-akh
From H7306; wind; by resemblance breath, that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation; figuratively life, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension a region of the sky; by resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and functions): - air, anger, blast, breath, X cool, courage, mind, X quarter, X side, spirit ([-ual]), tempest, X vain, ([whirl-]) wind (-y).





mumu janosky, the angels are spirits, and so accordeing to you angels are just wind and not persons:

Heb 1:14  Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? 

Greek
πνεῦμα
pneuma
pnyoo'-mah
From G4154; a current of air, that is, breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively a spirit, that is, (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, daemon, or (divine) God, Christ’s spirit, the Holy spirit: - ghost, life, spirit (-ual, -ually), mind. Compare G5590.





dimwit Dullard janosky, God is a Spirit, so according to you God is just wind and not a person:

Joh 4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Greek
πνεῦμα
pneuma
pnyoo'-mah
From G4154; a current of air, that is, breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively a spirit, that is, (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, daemon, or (divine) God, Christ’s spirit, the Holy spirit: - ghost, life, spirit (-ual, -ually), mind. Compare G5590.


you such a liar janosky, aren't you, and oh so duh like all habitual liars are

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Mat_7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

DappaD:


You've landed here too
Please can a human being see wind? No
The Hebrew word “ruach” can refer to breath, spirit and Spirit persons

Notice that the ‘Spirit’ at John 4:24 occurs as a proper noun. Meaning it is referring to an actual person, Jehovah.
Whereas ‘holy spirit’ in the original manuscript doesn't occur as a proper noun. Forget all those your manipulated KJV translations that try to make ‘holy spirit’ a proper noun.

Janosky:


That question is meant for you,Solite3 to answer.

Ezekiel 3:24 Then the spirit entered into me, and set me upon my feet, and spake with me, and said unto me, Go, shut thyself within thine house."

If solite3 is ok, I won't need to school him about this fact he wants to ignore;
Your Trinitarian Bible footnotes says "the spirit" is "wind" .
Bros, Wind na person?
Wind get mouth to speak to Prophet Ezekiel ?


Bros, your radio/TV speaks to you, is your radio/TV a person?

If you understand how your radio/ TV speaks, then you have understood how the wind spoke to Prophet Ezekiel

johnw47:





oh so dum dum false jw janosky

you don't believe the Holy spirit entered and spoke to ezekiel
but that is was the wind speaking, laughing
the wind entered ezekiel and spoke to him, ha ha ha

spirit isn't just wind, not just breath, but life and mind as well, and more:

Hebrew
רוּחַ
rûach
roo'-akh
From H7306; wind; by resemblance breath, that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation; figuratively life, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension a region of the sky; by resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and functions): - air, anger, blast, breath, X cool, courage, mind, X quarter, X side, spirit ([-ual]), tempest, X vain, ([whirl-]) wind (-y).





mumu janosky, the angels are spirits, and so accordeing to you angels are just wind and not persons:

Heb 1:14  Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? 

Greek
πνεῦμα
pneuma
pnyoo'-mah
From G4154; a current of air, that is, breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively a spirit, that is, (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, daemon, or (divine) God, Christ’s spirit, the Holy spirit: - ghost, life, spirit (-ual, -ually), mind. Compare G5590.





dimwit Dullard janosky, God is a Spirit, so according to you God is just wind and not a person:

Joh 4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Greek
πνεῦμα
pneuma
pnyoo'-mah
From G4154; a current of air, that is, breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively a spirit, that is, (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, daemon, or (divine) God, Christ’s spirit, the Holy spirit: - ghost, life, spirit (-ual, -ually), mind. Compare G5590.


you such a liar janosky, aren't you, and oh so duh like all habitual liars are

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Mat_7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.