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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 8:53pm On Jul 24, 2020
Leyqute:


This is wrong. Rashford does not create space for his full back to run into. He usually hugs the wing, gets the ball, does a little tippy-tappy with it, and then passes back to the LB.

Martial has the same MO, but he is better with the ball on the wing.

Rashford has a blistering pace and it aids him in counters. However, M9 is no pushover in counter attacking football either. His pace is not bad and he’ll probably have the better end result than Rashy because he makes better decisions (instead of dribbling himself into a cul de sac).

The only area where Rashy really trumps him is in tracking back and helping the defense.

I have to differ there.

You're describing the post-injury post-lockdown Rashford with a role crafted to accommodate our new setup. I think in our current setup, the only ninja with unbridled license for risky play is Bruno Fernandes.

Before the injury, Rashford was an all-action left sided attacker.

If anything, I'd say it is a testament to his versatility as I've seen him transition from a Chicarito-style fox-in-the-box under LVG, to a more traditional left winger under Mou, then an inverted forward in the mould of Mané and currently a left sided playmaker (of sorts)

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Geestunnar(m): 8:54pm On Jul 24, 2020
Leyqute:


True. If he can get enough minutes he’ll be useful.

I was hoping Lindelof will come really good for us but now I don’t think he can grow to be a dependable defender. Although he’s good with the ball at his feet, he’s weak at the wrong moments and he is an easy target for Opposition strikers.
Exactly, Lindelof I thought would be very strong owing to his Vikings lineage but I must say, dude is very vulnerable, prone to bullying.

He's been found out over and over again.. It's just a shame. I honestly wonder if he gyms at all cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:54pm On Jul 24, 2020
Leyqute:
Eric Bailly, ladies and gentlemen.
Bailly is a mad man...Baba is injury prone yet he takes the most risk.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:01pm On Jul 24, 2020
sylvalord:
I have been seeing some Rashford slander flying around here. So I decided to post this to tell you guys that you need to calm down. The boy is only 22.

cool cool

The same Rashford always gap Martial in goals contribution ( goals + assists ) every season since his debut (4-5 years now)....

Rashford is more matured and you can rely on him in big games.

The same France team that Martial can't enter, Rashford will walk straight into that team...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:03pm On Jul 24, 2020
Oasis007:
Anyone of them ain't deserves the Spot?

Henderson for Alison.

Vardy or Ings for Martial.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:04pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:


cool cool

The same Rashford always gap Martial in goals contribution ( goals + assists ) every season since his debut (4-5 years now)....

Rashford is more matured and you can rely on him in big games.

The same France team that Martial can't enter, Rashford will walk straight into that team...

No.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:09pm On Jul 24, 2020
GloryIsaac:


No.

Yes.

If Rashford can start in a team that has Harry Kane, Raheem Sterling, Jordan Sancho, Madison, Vardy, Ings, Abraham...... He will start in a team with just Mpappe and Griezman only.

Don't tell me Giroud will bench Rashford grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:12pm On Jul 24, 2020
sylvalord:
I have been seeing some Rashford slander flying around here. So I decided to post this to tell you guys that you need to calm down. The boy is only 22.

It’s not slander, it’s the truth. How will a 22 yo find it hard to successfully make a 10 feet pass?

He should stop serving rubbish. If you can’t score, at least help in another way. Draw defenders away from the ball. Create chances, etc. Don’t turn into a Willian fcs

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:16pm On Jul 24, 2020
Leyqute:


It’s not slander, it’s the truth. How will a 22 yo find it hard to successfully make a 10 feet pass

He should stop serving rubbish. If you can’t score, at least help in another way. Draw defenders away from the ball. Create chances, etc. Don’t turn into a Willian fcs

cheesy cheesy.... someone that plays almost all out set-piece don't know how to pass the ball?

Show me a set-piece taker that don't know how to pass the ball.

It's easy to see the guy is not fully fit and I will blame Ole's lack of man management skills.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:23pm On Jul 24, 2020
DeadPresidents:


I have to differ there.

You're describing the post-injury post-lockdown Rashford with a role crafted to accommodate our new setup. I think in our current setup, the only ninja with unbridled license for risky play is Bruno Fernandes.

Before the injury, Rashford was an all-action left sided attacker.

If anything, I'd say it is a testament to his versatility as I've seen him transition from a Chicarito-style fox-in-the-box under LVG, to a more traditional left winger under Mou, then an inverted forward in the mould of Mané and currently a left sided playmaker (of sorts)

Before his injury Rashflrd’s goals came mainly from penalties. Don’t be deceived.

He has performed below expectations as a left winger and an “inverted forward” like you said. I will ignore the playmaker thing.

He misplaces simple passes, lacks creativity and kills attacks. He only thrives when there’s space to exploit and then there are moments when he produces magic but those are not common.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:24pm On Jul 24, 2020
Geestunnar:

Exactly, Lindelof I thought would be very strong owing to his Vikings lineage but I must say, dude is very vulnerable, prone to bullying.

He's been found out over and over again.. It's just a shame. I honestly wonder if he gyms at all cheesy cheesy

I paid close attention to him recently and I was disappointed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:25pm On Jul 24, 2020
patrickmuf:
Bailly is a mad man...Baba is injury prone yet he takes the most risk.

grin grin grin

I don’t understand that guy.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 9:30pm On Jul 24, 2020
Leyqute:


Before his injury Rashflrd’s goals came mainly from penalties. Don’t be deceived.

He has performed below expectations as a left winger and an “inverted forward” like you said. I will ignore the playmaker thing.

He misplaces simple passes, lacks creativity and kills attacks. He only thrives when there’s space to exploit and then there are moments when he produces magic but those are not common.

How many of those penalties did he win? I don't see how shooting down a player for scoring penalties he won makes any sense? It's ridiculous at this point.

Misplaces simple passes and "lacks creativity" but still second in chances created since lockdown to only De Bruyne?

I'm seeing a lot of lazy cliche Sky analyst narratives bandied about Rashford just as I see cliché "lazy twät" narratives spread about Martial.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Prectega(m): 9:33pm On Jul 24, 2020
Oasis007:
This Boy is growing in Confidence. He looks a first Teamer in the Pic.

Matic and Pogba are too slow to be playing the n the same midfield

Who swear for Fred sef?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 9:35pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:
So funny whenever I see statement like this
" Martial will bench Rashford at LW".. grin grin

Martial is in form this season and Rashford is playing rubbish, at the end they have the same goals with Rashford having higher assist ....make una calm down, it's just injury effect
They have the same goal but how many goals does rashford have from open play? Baba has scored 6 penalties and martial has none

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:36pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:


Yes.

If Rashford can start in a team that has Harry Kane, Raheem Sterling, Jordan Sancho, Madison, Vardy, Ings, Abraham...... He will start in a team with just Mpappe and Griezman only.

Don't tell me Giroud will bench Rashford grin

The French National team manager has a style of play that Giroud fits. That’s why he selects him.

Giroud played all matches at the World Cup as the French starting striker and did not register a shot on target.

If Rashford was French, the manager would have still selected Giroud ahead of him. It’s about style of play, not quality.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:38pm On Jul 24, 2020
DeadPresidents:


How many of those penalties did he win? I don't see how shooting down a player for scoring penalties he won makes any sense? It's ridiculous at this point.

Misplaces simple passes and "lacks creativity" but still second in chances created since lockdown to only De Bruyne?

I'm seeing a lot of lazy cliche Sky analyst narratives bandied about Rashford just as I see cliché "lazy Arrow" narratives spread about Martial.

Martial fans can be like that

---When you see something like Martial is a better team player than Rashford...you should be laughing and rolling on the floor.

-The same Rashford is better than Martial in making same passes...

Highest Goal Scorer for us in EPL= Rashford ( tied with Martial)

Highest Assist for us in EPL= Rashford ( tied with Bruno)

Highest Goal contribution for us in EPL= Rashford.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:40pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:


cheesy cheesy.... someone that plays almost all out set-piece don't know how to pass the ball?

Show me a set-piece taker that don't know how to pass the ball.

It's easy to see the guy is not fully fit and I will blame Ole's lack of man management skills.

Free kicks like this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-0qOnfjtoA

There’s more where that came from.

Do you know how many free kicks that guy has wasted? And no, I’m not counting the one that he hit against a fan on a wheelchair.

Why was freekick duty immediately handed to Bruno when he arrived?

Furthermore, we keep seeing him misplacing easy passes on the pitch. Don’t you see it when you watch matches or are you a livescore guy?

It’s not compulsory to quote me, dude.

Dey your dey make I Dey my Dey. Biko.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:41pm On Jul 24, 2020
GloryIsaac:


The French National team manager has a style of play that Giroud fits. That’s why he selects him.

Giroud played all matches at the World Cup as the French starting striker and did not register a shot on target.

If Rashford was French, the manager would have still selected Giroud ahead of him. It’s about style of play, not quality.

Country don't buy players so you make do with what you have......

Benzema can't play for France because of that Sex scandal.....and I don't see any other serious France striker.

Again, don't tell me any coach in this world will pick Giroud over Rashford...mind you statistically Abraham is the first choice for Chelsea this season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:43pm On Jul 24, 2020
Leyqute:


Free kicks like this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-0qOnfjtoA

There’s more where that came from.

Do you know how many free kicks that guy has wasted? And no, I’m not counting the one that he hit against a fan on a wheelchair.

Why was freekick duty immediately handed to Bruno when he arrived?

Furthermore, we keep seeing him misplacing easy passes on the pitch. Don’t you see it when you watch matches or are you a livescore guy?

It’s not compulsory to quote me, dude.

Dey your dey make I Dey my Dey. Biko.

I can show you CR7 and Messi freekicks also....
When was the last time CR7 scored a freekick?

Close freekicks belongs to Bruno or Mata..

Long distance belongs to Rashford.

You should know this
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:44pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:


Country don't buy players so you make do with what you have......

Benzema can't play for France because of that Sex scandal.....and I don't see any other serious France striker.

Again, don't tell me any coach in this world will pick Giroud over Rashford...mind you statistically Abraham is the first choice for Chelsea this season.

Not everything has to be argued about.

Can Rashford play as a Target Man?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:48pm On Jul 24, 2020
Was it not from the stress of carrying our team pre-covid that caused Rashford's double stress fracture? This debate between who's better between him and Martial is pointless, both are very good and have each other's respect.
Lemme also add that Rashford will definitely make that French squad and be a starter because of his work rate and style of play. It could also be argued that Martial will make the England squad as well.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:48pm On Jul 24, 2020
DeadPresidents:


How many of those penalties did he win? I don't see how shooting down a player for scoring penalties he won makes any sense? It's ridiculous at this point.

Misplaces simple passes and "lacks creativity" but still second in chances created since lockdown to only De Bruyne?

I'm seeing a lot of lazy cliche Sky analyst narratives bandied about Rashford just as I see cliché "lazy Arrow" narratives spread about Martial.

Oga show us this stat. Convince me.

Lazy clichés? Okay o.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:49pm On Jul 24, 2020
GloryIsaac:


Not everything has to be argued about.

Can Rashford play as a Target Man?

Must they play that way?

Before Giroud started playing for France, which style of play where they using?

Giroud won't smell line-up with Rashford in the team.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:50pm On Jul 24, 2020
Leyqute:


Free kicks like this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-0qOnfjtoA

There’s more where that came from.

Do you know how many free kicks that guy has wasted? And no, I’m not counting the one that he hit against a fan on a wheelchair.

Why was freekick duty immediately handed to Bruno when he arrived?

Furthermore, we keep seeing him misplacing easy passes on the pitch. Don’t you see it when you watch matches or are you a livescore guy?

It’s not compulsory to quote me, dude.

Dey your dey make I Dey my Dey. Biko.
Baba you sef get agenda against Rashford so?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:51pm On Jul 24, 2020
handelex:
Was it not from the stress of carrying our team pre-covid that caused Rashford's double stress fracture? This debate between who's better between him and Martial is pointless, both are very good and have each other's respect.
Lemme also add that Rashford will definitely make that French squad and be a starter because of his work rate and style of play. It could also be argued that Martial will make the England squad as well.

I don’t think so bro.

Players get injured all the time. Pogba was also injured early on in the season and that has negatively impacted our season.

Doesn’t mean he carried the team on his ankles.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:54pm On Jul 24, 2020
handelex:
Baba you sef get agenda against Rashford so?

No agenda jare. I’m just not happy with his performances. I recognize his strengths but baba needs to work on his weaknesses.

Thank God he’s not on freekick duty anymore. He’s played like 25,000 of them and scored just 2 or 3. wink
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 9:54pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:


Martial fans can be like that

---When you see something like Martial is a better team player than Rashford...you should be laughing and rolling on the floor.

-The same Rashford is better than Martial in making same passes...

Highest Goal Scorer for us in EPL= Rashford ( tied with Martial)

Highest Assist for us in EPL= Rashford ( tied with Bruno)

Highest Goal contribution for us in EPL= Rashford.

Funny thing is, I won't even describe myself as a Rashford fan (Baba can be annoying as feck on a bad day) but these narratives have to be shot in the arsë soon as they crop up because the hilarity is mind-numbing!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:55pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:


Must they play that way?

Before Giroud started playing for France, which style of play where they using?

Giroud won't smell line-up with Rashford in the team.

Giroud played the role of a typical Target Man - as a Wall to keep the opposition center halves occupied,to win and spread the aerial balls either side, use his tall frame to hold the ball for a few valuable seconds longer so as to give the wingers time to make a run, create and clear danger during set-plays. Giroud took up the role of a selfless ‘Forward’ whose job is to offer a big-tall presence than to score goals or create direct scoring opportunities. The fact that he didn’t even attempt a shot on goal in all those minutes makes clear the role he was asked to play for the team.

Again, it’s not about quality, it’s about style of play in this particular case.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:57pm On Jul 24, 2020
handelex:
Was it not from the stress of carrying our team pre-covid that caused Rashford's double stress fracture? This debate between who's better between him and Martial is pointless, both are very good and have each other's respect.
Lemme also add that Rashford will definitely make that French squad and be a starter because of his work rate and style of play. It could also be argued that Martial will make the England squad as well.

Lol.. the question is who he’ll bench. It’s definitely not Giroud.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:57pm On Jul 24, 2020
Prectega:


Matic and Pogba are too slow to be playing the n the same midfield

Who swear for Fred sef?

Fred. Na Fred swear for himself. Too hotheaded and can’t keep calm. That’s why he jumps into tackles and gets dribbled easily. That thing Dey always vex me.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 9:57pm On Jul 24, 2020
Leyqute:


Oga show us this stat. Convince me.

Lazy clichés? Okay o.

Official United article as source.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.manutd.com/en/amp/news/detail/how-marcus-rashford-game-is-evolving-since-lockdown

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