Predstan:
Just wise, where is imperiouxx

I'm asking the same question

Hannania:
Hello folks, for legends in the house, does 4.15 CGPA stand in between 3.5 and 3.6 on a 4 point scale? If no, what's the range.

4.15 is 3.15 on a 4 point Scale

KlausMichaelson:



4.15 is 3.15 on a 4 point Scale

Lol..Are you for real? You don't need to reply him since you didn't understand the question....
4.15 is between the range of 3.5-3.6 on a 4pt scale using wes evaluation

KlausMichaelson:



4.15 is 3.15 on a 4 point Scale

you're miles apart from it. Even a 3.15/5 would equate to 3.0/4.0.

Hannania:
you're miles apart from it. Even a 3.15/5 would equate to 3.0/4.0.

3.15/5 equate to 3.0/4.0...? Lol

Paragontek:


3.15/5 equate to 3.0/4.0...? Lol

with a five year degree program, yes.

Eniolakiite:
Exactly

I wish more people were completely honest about how things are with studying and living abroad. And I wish more people are open to the honest truth.

Can you blame them for not been honest ....even here you can see many don't want to hear the truth but only want to hear what they want to hear ....

Experience is always the best teacher but it can be costly as well so sometimes you leave people to eventually walk into reality

Yes ma’am

LagosismyHome:


Can you blame them for not been honest ....even here you can see many don't want to hear the truth but only want to hear what they want to hear ....

Experience is always the best teacher but it can be costly as well so sometimes you leave people to eventually walk into reality

Just the right response

TWoods:


For someone who prides himself as smart, you seem to not know how to use google to do your own homework.

KlausMichaelson:



4.15 is 3.15 on a 4 point Scale

This is not in anyway true

Hannania:
Hello folks, for legends in the house, does 4.15 CGPA stand in between 3.5 and 3.6 on a 4 point scale? If no, what's the range.

When you multiply your 4.0 scale GPA by 1.25, you will get the 5.0 scale equivalence. Same way if you divide your 5.0 scale GPA by 1.25, you will get the 4.0 scale equivalence.

KlausMichaelson:



If u use my working, it actually gives the correct approximation but I feel it's not the right method

Wes evaluation is not calculated that way...Not a mathematical expression you just did....The person should use free wes calculator evaluation online....His CGPA should fall inbetween 3.5-3.6

mayDtolu:


Wes evaluation is not calculated that way...Not a mathematical expression you just did....The person should use free wes calculator evaluation online....His CGPA should fall inbetween 3.5-3.6

Sir with or without WES Evaluation, there is no way a 4.15/5.0 Cgpa will equal 3.5 to 3.6 / 4.0 cgpa. It is less than that.

KlausMichaelson:



Sir with or without WES Evaluation, there is no way a 4.15/5.0 Cgpa will equal 3.5 to 3.6 / 4.0 cgpa. It is less than that.

Check wes before you argue....I have 4.19/5 and wes unofficial equals it to 3.54(I remove my 6units project and 6unit IT)

So 4.15 will surely hit 3.5/4

horlahsunbo225:

Check wes before you argue....I have 4.19/5 and wes unofficial equals it to 3.54(I remove my 6units project and 6unit IT)

So 4.15 will surely hit 3.5/4

Obviously your 6Unit Project and 6Units IT grades were not too high to have a greater part of your CGPA. If you didn't have A's in the both of them, then not including them and their respective Units to your WES Evaluation will surely have favoured your WES Evaluation.

Prove me wrong Sir.

KlausMichaelson:



Sir with or without WES Evaluation, there is no way a 4.15/5.0 Cgpa will equal 3.5 to 3.6 / 4.0 cgpa. It is less than that.

Lol...You can google and make more research on it..There is a thread on nairaland that discuss more about wes evaluation and you will see many people CGPA on 5pt scale and the equivalent on a 4pt scale....

mayDtolu:



Lol...You can google and make more research on it..There is a thread on nairaland that discuss more about wes evaluation and you will see many people CGPA on 5pt scale and the equivalent on a 4pt scale....

Alright there is Absolutely no problem Sir.

KlausMichaelson:



If you use my working, it actually gives the correct approximation but I feel it's not the right method

nice work. But previously on this thread, I've seen people with below 3.5 on a 5 point scale getting a 3.0 and above on a 4 point scale, and can very well remember a guy around part 12 who had a 4.18/5 or there about getting a 3.5+/4 through WES evaluation. I guess WES conversion ain't same with conventional logic we make use of.

TrojanSnail:


When you multiply your 4.0 scale GPA by 1.25, you will get the 5.0 scale equivalence. Same way if you divide your 5.0 scale GPA by 1.25, you will get the 4.0 scale equivalence.

From previous evaluations posted here through WES, that logic does not apply

Hannania:
From previous evaluations posted here through WES, that logic does not apply

I didn't know he was looking for WES evaluation.

Hi guys,

Has anyone here been able to get a US visa, despite the Embassy closure?

Hello Everyone,

Please, I need safe schools suggestions for PhD in Management (Focal study area; Organization Structure/Human resources).

I went through the thread and found about 20+ Uni offering PhD in management for fall 2021 but one thing that kept popping up on this thread is Safeties.

I have plans to apply for 3-4schools. Please anyone with info on these safeties, Please help a sister...Thanks in advance

KlausMichaelson:



Obviously your 6Unit Project and 6Units IT grades were not too high to have a greater part of your CGPA. If you didn't have A's in the both of them, then not including them and their respective Units to your WES Evaluation will surely have favoured your WES Evaluation.

Prove me wrong Sir.

I had A in both courses...and wes will not evaluate 6unit for during the normal Wes evaluation

Predstan:
I've known about studying in the US since I was a junior in college, I mean I've been reading this thread since I was in 200Level in a polytechnic in Nigeria. Then ,I was maintaining a weak Upper Credits(3.1 of 4). I've had the dream and the vision of studying here in the US. I Graduated ND and was looking to begin the process but there was no money for even the least which is a passport. I paused it and decided to apply for Direct entry into a university because i didn't know HND can get me into America. I had applied and sat for unilorin's exam. I was admitted into Biomedical Engineering but was dropped and they changed my major to Educational Technology after i had paid tuition. I dropped them and moved back to that polytechnic for HND after I read about Ibrahim Waziri, the guy that got his PhD in 4 years after an HND degree in Nigeria. Yes, he's there on google, he bagged his Phd at Purdue University in Engineering. Ive been saving up since my first year of my HND degree. I didn't only just saved, i graduated best in my HND. I was still saving even when i was doing NYSC. I saved over 1.5million naira throughout those years. I started the process with WES, GRE, paid SEVIS when it was 200$, still paid when it was 350$, paid the embassy 3 times and i travelled 3 African countries as advised by my great PAdi and Mentor *Fairheart and several other expenses. It didn't come easy for anyone and don't expect it to come just easy for you. Im here in the US studying Engineering and will be researching what TESLA is researching atm(Abandoning the LIDAR system for self-driving cars). Its not a dream if you cant face the difficult challenges.
Go get your degree and plan ahead. Many couldn't make it here because they abandoned every other thing just for the dream. You shouldn't tow in that path....

@Justwise. This is not just for him, it might be helpful for others. I hope the post lives

Hello Predstan

I'm fascinated by your story and it's interesting to know you've achieved all you said. Well done. I have two questions

1) Are you doing master's, phd or bsc with your HND?
2) Do you have a full scholarship?
3) If 1) and 2) are true, can you give a long list of schools that give full scholarships with HND from naija? Did they require GRE?

I have 2 people I really want to help with information. One has distinction ond and hdn in statistics; another has upper credit ond and hnd in computer science..Both went to top 5 polytechnic in naija...I'm show you can guess where.

If you can give me detailed information, we could have have these two people take the GRE before December and follow through with the other process.

Let me hear from you soon. If you want, you can drop an email where I can email you, get your number and then speak.

Many thanks

gaeul:
Hello Everyone,

Please, I need safe schools suggestions for PhD in Management (Focal study area; Organization Structure/Human resources).

I went through the thread and found about 20+ Uni offering PhD in management for fall 2021 but one thing that kept popping up on this thread is Safeties.

I have plans to apply for 3-4schools. Please anyone with info on these safeties, Please help a sister...Thanks in advance

What's your profile like?

See my response to the guy on the other thread - letters are important.

Let's start with your profile...GPA/GRE/research experience/work experience/have you written intensive research stuff?

Hannania:
nice work. But previously on this thread, I've seen people with below 3.5 on a 5 point scale getting a 3.0 and above on a 4 point scale, and can very well remember a guy around part 12 who had a 4.18/5 or there about getting a 3.5+/4 through WES evaluation. I guess WES conversion ain't same with conventional logic we make use of.

Even, I think WES made a little rounding error, lol. 4.18/5 should be around 3.55-3.6.

But grades are mostly curve in the US, not same in Naija - at least when I went to school. This could make the grades of some otherwise okayish students in the US to look good, even very good. An example of curving is giving A to the person with the highest score in the class....That highest score does not have to be the highest possible score that is needed to get A...In fact, it can change from year to year, that's what gives a student an A.

Whereas in naija, we once did a course and nobody got A because all scores <70. In a curved system, the highest score would get A and even some scores slightly lower.

That's why a letter of recommendation describing your rank in class is very important

bigfrancis21:


Hello, I haven't been here in a while but just scrolled recently and came across this post. From your post, you strike me as an intelligent person and I decided to reply you and offer you an honest and straightforward recommendation (people who know me know that I can be very honest and detailed with the truth). I also write this from personal experience with bringing my younger brother and cousin over after their secondary school and the hoops and battles that we had to go through during their first two years here. Thankfully, they both are now permanent residents, in their third year studying Information Systems and go to school at no cost to them/no student loans (FAFSA grants).

The most pertinent question you need be asking yourself is, how do I intend to sponsor my studies here? Look, bachelor's studies here can be VERY VERY expensive for international students (who are charged at twice the rate citizens and PRs pay) and on-campus work which pays peanuts CANNOT pay your school fees. Schools here barely offer full funding or scholarships for undergraduate studies anymore, even with high SAT scores, which you chose to skip writing (gone are those days in the 70s and 80s when a high SAT score meant automatic educational funding in the US). So-called $1k or $5k grants per year offered by some schools won't cut it. Without SAT scores, your WAEC result alone will hardly get you substantial funding. You are talking about at least $5k per semester/(N2m per semester (this is community college rate, universities even charge more to the tune of $6k and higher). Then, you also need to have your accommodation plans in place for at least one year (if any family members will accommodate you for a while until you are able to afford getting your own place). On-campus work (which limits F1 students to 20 hours max) CAN MAYBE afford your living expenses (housing, feeding, transportation etc), nothing more. Totally, forget any hopes or dreams of a family member living here to 'pay your school fees' as we do in Nigeria. Undergraduate tuition of most college kids here is paid mostly via student loans. Only rich folks here pay tuition for their children.

Also know that if you choose to skip taking the SAT and you get admitted, obtain your visa and somehow have the funds to study here, be aware that you will be required to take placement tests by the university/college to test your readiness for college and in most cases you might be required to spend your first semester or even two (at N2m per semester or N4m per annum) taking ESL classes (English as a second language) or/and College Prep Math classes before taking your supposed first semester classes. However, having a good SAT score exempts you from these preparatory classes and you would go straight to college level classes. Skipping the SAT test which costs less than N30,000 or so, only to end up paying N2m instead for an extra semester which could be avoided by taking the SAT test? Saving N30k to pay N2m instead? Is this what you really want to do? I'm writing from experience with my younger brother and cousin who took the SAT but had average scores and were required to spend their first semester taking ESL and Development math classes (their WAEC results are just the same as yours, both got B2 in WAEC English).

My honest suggestion to you would be to suspend any US study dreams for now and finish up your Bsc in Nigeria first and come in for your master's instead. It is much easier to fund your graduate studies here (graduate assistantships, Prodigy student loan for grad studies for select courses and universities) etc vs bachelors. Lucky you, you have a scholarship from the LSG to enable you fund your bachelor's studies in Nigeria.

This is not to discourage you and I am only being realistic here. You remind me of my younger years. Right when I was 16 and in my first year in the university (UNN), I nursed plans of quitting my studies in Nigeria furthering my studies here in the US. I was prepared to take the SAT exam, downloaded some study materials and found some schools. Excited by my hopes, I called my father and relayed my plans to him and needed to register for the SAT, but he dealt me a very realistic blow. He flatly rejected my suggestion and advised me to finish my UG studies and aim for MS in the US instead. I, till today, have not forgotten that call I made to my father. Having studied in the US himself (on automatic federal government scholarship due to having high scores) back in the 70s, he relayed to me exactly these same concerns. I was mad for days. Looking back now, that was the best advice that he gave me. I took his advice, finished my UG with 2.1 came in here right after my NYSC.

My two cents.

Thank you for taking your time to post this for the young lad/girl. It's true and there are no secret desire to discourage anybody in your post.

Nonetheless, the young lad/girl can still try their luck if they have the money. Anything good can come out, we may never know...

But, please, to the young lad/girl, know that you're competing against some other crazy kids from naija..Those with, yes, 9A1, 7 A* in IGCSE, >330 in Jamb, and almost 9 in IELTS. Yes, this is a real profile and some kids have it in naija. For example, my friend's daughter...16/17 years old. But again, anything can happen, so still try your luck, but be realistic.

Finally, my own advice to my sister's son with 5 B2 and 3 B3......Do a BSc in Nigeria, get as close to 5.0 GPA as possible, then come here for your MS/PhD. As the above poster rightly said, it's way easier to get a full ride for grad school, even MBA, than it is for undergrad. Every year, people go for grad studies from naija on full scholarships, even at top top schools, name them... Another thing I've mandated that my sister's son to do is for him to start reading for the GRE from year 1. I gave him all the material. We don't want stories. The lad/girl you responded to may want to adopt same style.

Good luck to him or her