Emusan:


The son is the eternal wisdom and power of Yahweh which Proverbs 8 talks about not a separate created being, that was the reason YAHWEH can boldly say "ALONE and BY MYSELF" because His eternal wisdom is eternally part of Him.

Emusan:


Lying liar! He didn't even know his own demonic translation has the word MYSELF

"This is what Jehovah says, your Repurchaser, Who formed you since you were in the womb: “I am Jehovah, who made everything. I (Yahweh) stretched out the heavens BY MYSELF, And I (Yahweh) spread out the earth. Who was with me?"

BEFORE HIS WORKS OF OLD....wo the speaker can't be the first created when he's already exists before the first work begins.
You're still drowning in your delusions.
Was God lying in Isaiah that He did it ALONE and BY HIMSELF and also in Job that "when I"?
Why will God say such when in reality someone was there helping Him?

Isn't your WISDOM the master worker of whatever you do?
Can you do anything without your wisdom?

MuttleyLaff:
"And Jesus said to him,
"The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air nests;
but the Son of Man has nowhere He might lay the head.""
- Luke 9:58

The title the Son of Man often used by Yahusha Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, as like seen in Luke 9:58 above, is a clever, conscious, calculating and deliberate way of Yahusha Ha Mashiach expressing Himself for the benefit of the audience and/or hearers' understanding, that He, actually is begotten of the Father (i.e. revealing the Divinity and so divine side of Himself) and born of a mother (i.e. acknowledging the humanity and so humane, human being side of Himself)

"For a child is born to us, a son is given to us. The government will rest on his shoulders. And he will be called:
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace"
- Isaiah 9:6

"A voice cries:
“In the wilderness prepare the way of the Lord; make straight in the desert a highway for our God."
- Isaiah 40:3

MuttleyLaff:
For DrLive\Logic and any interested interlocutor(s):

1/ Name who principally or primary are in the Godhead (i.e. Elohim) of Genesis 1:27
2/ At what point did God, the Spirit become God the Father, what point did the Word, (i.e. Logos) become the Son, and what point did the seven distinct expression of the God, the Spirit, become the Holy Spirit?
3/ Is God resigned and/or limited to just Three Persons?
4/ What is God's name? What is the implication of this name that God didnt reveal to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?
5/ Is the answer given in #4a above really God's personal name?
6/ What fundamental problems was God solving that necessitated the creation of mankind? (i.e. A&E and their progeny)
7/ Did God have an objective to achieve and purpose for creating A&E?
8/ Would you agree that "Though this be madness, yet there is method in it?"
9/ Is it hard or impossible for God to project Himself out, so to simultaneously and/or concurrently exist on earth and Heaven?
10/ Give two examples of a Being that has demonstrated the ability and power to see into humans' heart, know their thoughts, tell what they're thinking, or what they desire. In other words, here is one from 1 Samuel 9:19 and 1 Samuel 10:19&26, so please give your two different examples please

MuttleyLaff:
Blabbermouth, why not have a stab at the above easy, direct, simple, innocent, harmless and straightforward questions, with giving questions #2, #3, #6, #7, #9 and #10 extra considerations, hmm? In fact, give all questions, deep reflections before attempting to respond to them

MuttleyLaff:
"The Word became a human being and, full of grace and truth, lived among us.
We saw his glory, the glory which he received as the Father's only Son."
(i.e. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.)
- John 1:14

Yahusha Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ is God incarnated

Blabbermouth:
Why is everyone not sticking to rules?
Sir, not the NT but the Old testament only!

Image123:
To what purpose if i may ask the OP?

Blabbermouth:
You still gave me your former answer in a different grammatical expression. When I asked "Is your word a person?", I meant " is your word a person and you yourself a person. Are you two persons? "
Yes Sir, I am a person of my word. Howbeit my word is not a separate person from me.

sagenaija:
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'Like' is 'like'. So, in that passage one cannot say definitely that it is an angel.

Deductively I do not see where it says a man became Divine in the Daniel passage.
 
I also noted that he is WORSHIPED.

Blabbermouth:

Respectfully speaking sir, Visions and prophecies don't work that way.
Daniel saw a figure (representing 4 governments&kingdom) and He saw them being crushed by a stone/mountain cut without hands and the figure was destroyed. Has it happened then? Definitely not!
Alexander of (kingdom 3), Medes and Perses(kingdom 2) and co. Were still fulfilling their part many years after Daniel had died.
That is to say, the giving of the authority part has not yet happened then.... It was just a vision not a current time event.
Therefore, this scripture does not in any way satisfy our quest.

advocatejare:

It's your quest, not our quest.

I've already told you this:

If you're not satisfied with my answer, then search the scriptures on your own, don't expect people to spoon feed you if truly you're a Christian. You should be the one feeding the people with the word of God, but like I said, search the scriptures, if you can't find your answer, then make any inference you desire.

AntiChristian:
make I follow!

Contractkiller, Advocatejare, Sagenaija Come show your Bible knowlege here. No be only Islamic books you sabi quote out of context!

Maximus69:


My friend unless you want to delude yourself, the fought person Nebuchadnezzar saw inside that fairy furnace wasn't a man, it's the same Archangel Michael!
There is no other way Nebuchadnezzar could have described what he saw since angels always appear like humans!

The last chapter of that Bible book uncovered the identity of the angelic Prince who has been standing in support of God's servants! Daniel 10:13 compare to 12:1

Blabbermouth:

In both our pure and undiluted state of mind, we both know there is nothing ANGELIC about any of these.

Blabbermouth:

In both our pure and undiluted state of mind, we both know there is nothing ANGELIC about any of these.

Emusan:


You can see it was boldly written in the scripture that God did the creative works ALONE and by HIMSELF

So by this you should know who is calling God a liar.



To say another being HELPED God is to call God a liar with those undeniable scriptures.


Besides, even the very Prov 8:22 didn't support someone else was already created before Yahweh's work



John 1:3 is enough to show you that nobody HELPED God in creative works because if not it means Jesus created Himself.

Emusan Lienus

Yahweh alone by Himself wrote the laws He alone gave to Israel.
Who else gave laws to Israel?

Did Yahweh come down from heaven and give the laws to each family in Israel?

Yahweh's law came to Israel Through a channel...
WAYO man use your brain, give us the name .

"Yahweh possessed me" in Psalms 139:13 and Proverbs 8:22.
(Strong's Hebrew 7069 is your nemesis here.. every Trinitarian wan change am by fire by force).
WAYO man, I challenge you to come here and twist it


Also, Genesis 14:19,22 , these scriptures are damning indictment on Emusan Lienus

DappaD:


Hold on, I can understand so far that you don't believe Jesus had a divine nature before he came to the earth?
That should mean you don't believe Jesus had a prehuman existence, correct?

Maximus69:


I suppose this is another Nairalander like the young lady Rozz who called all Trinitarians out to come and face Jehovah's Witnesses due to the way we've been debunking your TRINITY God!

Don't be bias Sir, Blabbermouth still don't accept our belief that Jesus is Archangel Michael either.

So feel free to express yourself here if you know something about the topic of discussion it's a free world!

Image123:


You and the sensual urge to prop up wickedness into every discussion. It will be well with you some day.

Maximus69:


His problem is simple!

He doesn't find TRINITY reasonable yet he wants to believe that Jesus is the same as the Almighty God who wasn't created.

So he's locked up between two opinions whether to agree with JWs that Jesus is Archangel Michael and continue building on how this creature took part in the salvation of mankind or agree with TRINITY and continue building on how to explain Jesus' position in the Trinitarian Godheads!
His main problem now is there is no siting on the fence!

DappaD:


Hmm I think he made it clear that he doesn't believe in trinity.
But does he believe Jesus is the same as God? If so, then he's a trinitarian but doesn't know it yet.

Maximus69:


My friend unless you want to delude yourself, the fought person Nebuchadnezzar saw inside that fairy furnace wasn't a man, it's the same Archangel Michael!
There is no other way Nebuchadnezzar could have described what he saw since angels always appear like humans!

The last chapter of that Bible book uncovered the identity of the angelic Prince who has been standing in support of God's servants! Daniel 10:13 compare to 12:1

Csonice1:


Hebrews 1:8-12;
"But unto the Son he saith, [b] Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. [/b] "

Additional scripture: "The Lord is the Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is is liberty"

Only those to whom it's given to understand this mystery, will discern the meaning of this.

Janosky:

There is nothing mysterious about Fraud packaged as Truth.
Bros , @ Hebrew 1:8 Yahweh NEVER spoke that FRAUD you posted up there..

Ask me why?

1st reason: Hebrew 1:8-9 in Greek is a direct quotation of Psalms 45:6-7 in Hebrew language Masoretic Text..

Therefore, Psalms 45:6, the original is in Hebrew language, not Greek.

How is Psalms 45:6 written in Hebrew language?
The Hebrew language Masoretic Text screenshot is attached for your reference.
Therefore, Hebrew 1:8 must be word for word in tandem with Psalms 45:6.
Why did Hebrews1:8 deviate from Psalms 45:6?

2) The Catholic Church propagated Trinity before our grandparents were born.
Why not examine the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible @ Psalms 45:6? (See Screenshot)
Is it the same thing in Hebrew 1:8?

*3) @Rev3:21, @1 Chronicle 29:23,@Luke1:31-33, Jesus Christ confirm that Psalms 45:6 Hebrew Masoretic Text is very authentic.

Final conclusion:
Hebrew 1:8 have been Dubiously twisted to support Trinitarians scam.

Shalom.

Janosky:

There is nothing mysterious about Fraud packaged as Truth.
Bros , @ Hebrew 1:8 Yahweh NEVER spoke that FRAUD you posted up there..

Ask me why?

1st reason: Hebrew 1:8-9 in Greek is a direct quotation of Psalms 45:6-7 in Hebrew language Masoretic Text..

Therefore, Psalms 45:6, the original is in Hebrew language, not Greek.

How is Psalms 45:6 written in Hebrew language?
The Hebrew language Masoretic Text screenshot is attached for your reference.
Therefore, Hebrew 1:8 must be word for word in tandem with Psalms 45:6.
Why did Hebrews1:8 deviate from Psalms 45:6?

2) The Catholic Church propagated Trinity before our grandparents were born.
Why not examine the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible @ Psalms 45:6? (See Screenshot)
Is it the same thing in Hebrew 1:8?

*3) @Rev3:21, @1 Chronicle 29:23,@Luke1:31-33, Jesus Christ confirm that Psalms 45:6 Hebrew Masoretic Text is very authentic.

Final conclusion:
Hebrew 1:8 have been Dubiously twisted to support Trinitarians scam.

Shalom.