DappaD:


Biko leave ‘carnal’ and ‘spiritual’ things alone for now—because in my eyes you don't measure up to anything ‘spiritual’ .

I, DappaD am one in agreement with Maximus69, does this mean we're the same person?—John 17:21-23{verse 22 especially}

Just answer my question with YES or NO sir!

DappaD:


Biko leave ‘carnal’ and ‘spiritual’ things alone for now, because in my eyes you don't measure up to anything ‘spiritual’ .

I, DappaD am one in agreement with Maximus69, does this mean we're the same person?—John 17:21-23{verse 22 especially}

Just answer my question with YES or NO sir!

solite3:

What do you mean by oneness in thought?

Are you sure there were no differences in the early church as well,

This verse below shows that there were differences in thought in the early churches,



Romans 14:5-6 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Your problem is that you think the unity tha the Christian unity is a cult like slavery that you cannot think for yourself?
The Christian unity is a Spiritual unity, a unity of faith in Jesus christ as the Lord, the operation God the father, and unity in the holy Spirit.
All Christian has one Spirit.
Yes love include the ability to correct each other and to disagree with each other for the sake of the truth.
Even among the apostles there were disagreement for paul even challenged peter on some occasion when the need arose and peter became the better for it.


Your organisation is a cult that is why they do not allow divergent opinion.

Maximus69:


Solite3 ~ Jesus is different from Jehovah

[s] After some cock and bull stories from his cohort (DrLiveLogic) [/s]

Solite3 ~ Jesus is Jehovah!

Hallelujah simbarry!

Csonice1:



the level of understanding exhibited by some of us is really funny.

No, you are not the same person, but YES you can be members of the same body. At a time (even humanly speaking) the son was in the father. Levi paid tithe in Abraham.

Now, The Father and son[Jesus] are one: Jesus came forth from the father ; both are United by the Spirit[ the wonderful part is that The Spirit of the Father is also the Spirit of Christ].

if(when) I lay hands on the sick and he gets healed, The person was healed by The Father, in the Name of Jesus (ie Jesus did it) by the power of the Spirit.
They are inseparable.
For more Read: Matthew 28:19

Csonice1:


[you forgot to add] ..."after having known the truth."






The Father,son and Spirit are inseparable.

bloodofthelamb:
You compare canal things with spiritual things. And by the way do you agree that Jesus is the wisdom of God as portrayed in the Bible?

DappaD:


Hmm that means among trinitarians, there's truth and falsehood about the trinity god?

Csonice1:


[you forgot to add] ..."after having known the truth."
The Father,son and Spirit are inseparable.

DappaD:

Do you subscribe to the doctrine of trinity?
Or are you monotheistic in belief?

I know why I'm asking all these.

Maximus69:

The highlighted!
Thanks to DrLiveLogic, simbarry praise the Lord!

Csonice1:


I removed doctrinal barriers and read God's word and this is what I found out:
1.God is one. with three persons proceeding forth. for the word was with God and the word was God: Also the Lord is The Spirit.
Three persons in one God: The Father, the Word and The Spirit.

2.The Son was in the Father as an integral dimension of Him & He proceeded forth to do God's will. The Spirit is the union between the two (the power of God).

3. The Spirit of the Lord is : the Spirit of God: The Spirit of Christ: and the Lord is the Spirit.

4. The Word took flesh; as the image of the invisible God. For our redemption and after he has spoiled principalities and power he sat at the right hand of the Father; the same position of Authority with Him; the glory He had with Him before the World began.

5.They are inseparable; in works; and in glory

If it be so that s man (one person) shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife( another person) and the two shall be one flesh; even though they are two, they are one flesh. How much more they that are one Spirit?

I believe in one God: Father, Son and Spirit in unity [one body, One Spirit] through love and agreement. it's scriptural beyond argument: I dropped a few scriptural witnesses across this thread coming from my personal Bible study with God.

Csonice1:


ignored.

DappaD:


Biko leave ‘carnal’ and ‘spiritual’ things alone for now—because in my eyes you don't measure up to anything ‘spiritual’ .

I, DappaD am one in agreement with Maximus69, does this mean we're the same person?—John 17:21-23{verse 22 especially}

Just answer my question with YES or NO sir!

Maximus69:


Solite3 ~ Jesus is different from Jehovah

After some cock and bull stories from his cohort (DrLiveLogic)

Solite3 ~ Jesus is Jehovah!

Hallelujah simbarry!

Maximus69:


The highlighted!

I hope what this your God studied with you won't become a cause for arguements, abusive speeches, insults and curses between you and other Trinitarians later on Nairaland!

Maximus69:
,

bloodofthelamb:
I will not oblige you. We are talking whether Jesus is a created being or not let us stick to it. Don't shift the focus. If God created His Wisdom as portrayed in Proverb 8 that only means that there was a time He was unwise and foolish.

Maximus69:
The problem with Trinitarians is the concept of TRINITY in itself, this doctrine blur your sense of discernment completely!

For your information, each Prophet speaks of how the Messiah's assignment correlates with his own!

Moses was a prophet through whom God performed great works, he served as God and Prophet at the same time, he spent 40 days and 40 nights without food in God's presence, he is the mediator of a covenant, he delivered the Israelites from slavery in Egypt, he led them to the promised land! Jesus also served similar purposes so Moses could say God will raise a PROPHET like him amongst the Israelites! Deuteronomy 18:15-18 compare to Act 3:22

David was a king in Israel and upon his throne is where God kept telling the Israelites that the Messiah will sit as King {Isaiah 9:7} so David could speak of the rulership of the Messiah who will serve as a KING greater than himself! Psalms 110:1 compare to Act 2:34-35

Solomon was known far and wide to be the wisest king of his time {Matthew 12:42} so he too prophetically spoke of the Messiah as someone whose WISDOM will surpass his own! Proverbs 8:22-31

So can we now conclude that Moses was speaking of the time when God possessed the PROPHECIES?
Or David was speaking of the time when God possessed the KINGSHIP?
After all Solomon's prophetic words found at Proverbs 8 was talking about a time when God possessed WISDOM!

Bunch of Confused Dullards!

solite3:

Quoting out of context is your trade, meanwhile face the topic at hand.

Csonice1:



I hope so;
we would save ourselves some insults and curses [especially from pple like u] if we all removed our professor mentality each time we read God's Word and humble ourselves: and let unity reign.

do you know that when the early Church prayed, they lifted up "their voice" not "their voices"?( I see this as a mystery in light of what we are discussing, but I speak concerning the church)

we can only have one voice through sincerity, love agreement and undiluted word of God.
The Word of God is not about opinions it is about God's Truth; whether it makes sense to us naturally or not. A doctor will have a hard time understanding the relationship between touching the Hem of a garment, [spoken word, or even laying of hands] And healing.

So, it's not about what makes sense in the natural: it's about what God said; and what God says is Truth.

I am willing to throw my opinion away a thousand miles away so that God's word would reign: therefore, I don't teach opinion:

for our dominion is through our understanding God's word; not for argument: but that through understanding, we might become living Epistles of God's word; in purity, power, divine nature and blessings.

Maximus69:






@bloodofthelamb, it's either you agree with JWs that God created Jesus (Michael) or that God created his own wisdom as your TRINITY cohorts are insinuating.

There's no third option Sir!

Maximus69:


If you find it difficult to come to terms then know today that Jesus is not in your midst, Satan is the genius behind confusion!

As for Jehovah's Witnesses, we are one globally so if you want to become a member of the PEACE family all you need to do is humble yourself and learn, you'll be welcomed hospitably but if not then go and continue arguing with your brethren under the TRINITY Dogheads!

Csonice1:


I'm sorry to say that there is no scriptural basis to say that God created Jesus.
however the Bible talks about Jesus coming forth (proceeding) from the father;

John 16:27
For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God ."

Jesus is not an angel [Hebrews1]

Csonice1:


1.you are a prominent blasphemer
2. you evangelize your organization and not Christ.
3. you have a distorted picture of what peace is all about.
4. you don't believe in the power of God. you throw insults like an unbeliever.

Maximus69:


Just recollect how your TRINITY Dogheads made you a confusionist until DrLiveLogic came to your rescue!

solite3:

A false witness and a blasphemous liar that is who you are, and I thank God that you are being exposed.

Maximus69:


Pharisees, Saddusees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis also accused Jesus like that {Matthew 10:25} so it's not new
.

Maximus69:

Prove the power of your God by uniting as one family of peace loving worshipers! Ephesians 4:3

Csonice1:


I removed doctrinal barriers and read God's word and this is what I found out:
1.God is one. with three persons proceeding forth. for the word was with God and the word was God: Also the Lord is The Spirit.
Three persons in one God: The Father, the Word and The Spirit.

2.The Son was in the Father as an integral dimension of Him & He proceeded forth to do God's will. The Spirit is the union between the two (the power of God).

3. The Spirit of the Lord is : the Spirit of God: The Spirit of Christ: and the Lord is the Spirit.

4. The Word took flesh; as the image of the invisible God. For our redemption and after he has spoiled principalities and power he sat at the right hand of the Father; the same position of Authority with Him; the glory He had with Him before the World began.

5.They are inseparable; in works; and in glory

If it be so that s man (one person) shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife( another person) and the two shall be one flesh; even though they are two, they are one flesh. How much more they that are one Spirit?

I believe in one God: Father, Son and Spirit in unity [one body, One Spirit] through love and agreement. it's scriptural beyond argument: I dropped a few scriptural witnesses across this thread coming from my personal Bible study with God.

Maximus69:

We are no part of you people! John 17:14

bloodofthelamb:

I will not oblige you. We are talking whether Jesus is a created being or not let us stick to it. Don't shift the focus. If God created His wisdom as portrayed in Proverb 8 that only means that there was a time He was unwise and foolish.

Csonice1:

I know