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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 11:13am On Aug 30, 2020
MuttleyLaff:








Ara adugbo, ẹjọ, ẹ surubomika, ẹ wa gba mi ooo, lọwọ awọn ase ọmọ araiye ooo.

DappaD, besides the fact that context is king, where in the whole content did you find MuttleyLaff type that "the ‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit" hmm? Where instead of this appalling conjecture did MuttleyLaff type that "the ‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit" hmm? Where is the verbatim. Smh. I know who your father is. KMT

Okay so you're looking for who will tell you that you made an erroneous blunder shocked
Remain there na grin
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by WizzyVine: 11:19am On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:


OK
1Corinthians 8:6

“there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.”

If we're to understand the highlighted better, we'll consider other Scriptures— Proverbs 8:22-31, John 1:1,3 and Colossians 1:15-16
All things created are from Jehovah God including Jesus(the firstborn of all creation i.e. Michael the archangel) and afterwards, every other thing was created “through”/“on account of” Jesus Christ who was alongside his Father, Jehovah God as a “masterworker” — Proverbs 8:30



Michael died for your sins? Laughable.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 11:20am On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
Okay so you're looking for who will tell you that you made an erroneous blunder shocked
Remain there na grin
You are an unrepentant irredeemable shameless bare faced liar, just like your father, the devil. You have moved from concocting false accusations to erroneous blunder now, abi?. I knew you had no proof to substantiate your falsehood with in the first place. Continue there, OK? You go soon hear.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 11:22am On Aug 30, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
You are an unrepentant irredeemable shameless bare faced liar. You have moved from concocting false accusations to erroneous blunder. I knew you had no proof to substantiate your falsehood with in the first place. Continue there, OK? You go soon hear.

OK OK
So only DappaD is “unrepentant irredeemable shameless bare faced liar” because I pointed out the blunder you made. undecided
No wahala I've heard you grin
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 11:23am On Aug 30, 2020
WizzyVine:


Michael died for your sins? Laughable.

Yes Michael the archangel died to rescue me from sin and death — Matthew 20:28, Colossians 1:13,14, 1Timothy 2:6
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by WizzyVine: 11:39am On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:


Yes Michael the archangel died to rescue me from sin and death — Matthew 20:28, 1Timothy 2:5,6

Michael:

But the prince of the kingdom of Persia opposed me twenty-one days. So Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, and I left him there with the prince of the kingdom of Persia (Daniel 10:13).

Jesus:

On his robe and on his thigh He has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords. (Rev. 19:16).

We see Jesus rebuking the devil during his 40 day fasting in the wilderness. In Jude, Michael could not even rebuke Satan, only said, "The Lord rebuke you."

I ask again, who died for your sins? Is it Jesus the King of kings and Lord of lords, or, Michael, one of the chief princes?

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 11:45am On Aug 30, 2020
WizzyVine:


Michael:

But the prince of the kingdom of Persia opposed me twenty-one days. So Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, and I left him there with the prince of the kingdom of Persia (Daniel 10:13).

Jesus:

On his robe and on his thigh He has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords. (Rev. 19:16).

We see Jesus rebuking the devil during his 40 day fasting in the wilderness. In Jude, Michael could not even rebuke Satan, only said, "The Lord rebuke you."

I ask again, who died for your sins? Is it Jesus the King of kings and Lord of lords, or, Michael, one of the chief princes?


What part of Matthew 28:18, Ephesians 1:20,21 and Philippians 2:9 don't you understand? smiley
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 11:50am On Aug 30, 2020
WizzyVine:


Michael:

But the prince of the kingdom of Persia opposed me twenty-one days. So Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, and I left him there with the prince of the kingdom of Persia (Daniel 10:13).

Jesus:

On his robe and on his thigh He has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords. (Rev. 19:16).

We see Jesus rebuking the devil during his 40 day fasting in the wilderness. In Jude, Michael could not even rebuke Satan, only said, "The Lord rebuke you."

I ask again, who died for your sins? Is it Jesus the King of kings and Lord of lords, or, Michael, one of the chief princes?

And I reply again, Jesus Christ(Michael the archangel) by means of his death on the torture stake rescued me from sin and death—Matthew 28:18, Colossians 1:13,14, 1Timothy 2:6, Hebrew 9:26-27.
Michael/Jesus Christ is the only one/mediator standing in behalf of God's people on earth. (See Daniel 12:1//And then check Hebrews 9:24)
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by WizzyVine: 11:54am On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:


What part of Matthew 28:18, Ephesians 1:20,21 and Philippians 2:9 don't you understand? smiley

You mean the Mighty God and Everlasting Father of Isaiah 9:6, didn't have authority over his creatures until he resurrected? You and I know too well that Jesus displayed authority on earth ever before being crucified.

1. He walked on water
2. He raised the dead
3. He cast out demons
4. Luke 9 and 10, He gave authority to His disciples to cast out devils and heal the sick.

I ask again, who died for your sins? The King of kings or one of the chief princes?

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:02pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
OK OK
So only DappaD is “unrepentant irredeemable shameless bare faced liar” because I pointed out the blunder you made. undecided
No wahala I've heard you grin
You are a bonafide and kofam unrepentant irredeemable shameless bare faced liar because you fabricated a pack of lies.

Now when you were asked to bring evidence of me where, according to your lies, I said "the ‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit" you were abysmally found wanting and with your pants down.

Is that what you're taught to learn at JW? Smh. Inventing malicious stories and misleading the readership with it, hmm?
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:04pm On Aug 30, 2020
WizzyVine:
Michael died for your sins? Laughable.

DappaD:
Yes Michael the archangel died to rescue me from sin and death
— Matthew 20:28, Colossians 1:13,14, 1Timothy 2:6
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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 12:08pm On Aug 30, 2020
WizzyVine:


You mean the Mighty God and Everlasting Father of Isaiah 9:6, didn't have authority over his creatures until he resurrected? You and I know too well that Jesus displayed authority on earth ever before being crucified.

1. He walked on water
2. He raised the dead
3. He cast out demons
4. Luke 9 and 10, He gave authority to His disciples to cast out devils and heal the sick.


You're misconstruing that Isaiah 9:6 scripture oo undecided
Are you saying that mortal men and the other angels in heaven haven't been called this title “Mighty God”[El Gibbor] before?
Well for your information, Moses was God[El Gibbor] when he stood before Pharaoh—Exodus 7:1
Angels in heaven are also mighty gods—Psalm 103:20 so that title isn't exclusive to one person only.


I ask again, who died for your sins? The King of kings or one of the chief princes?

WizzyVine I won't continue with you much longer, seeing your questions are merely repetitive.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:16pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
You're misconstruing that Isaiah 9:6 scripture oo undecided
Are you saying that mortal men and the other angels in heaven haven't been called this title “Mighty God”[El Gibbor] before?
Well for your information, Moses was God[El Gibbor] when he stood before Pharaoh—Exodus 7:1
Angels in heaven are also mighty gods—Psalm 103:20 so that title isn't exclusive to one person only.
Typical prooftexting, why not read Exodus 7:1 close enough to see, how and who made Moshe aka Moses, seem like God to Pharaoh, hmm? Read closely enough to see who bestowed Moshe aka Moses, the privilege to be a divine representative of God before Pharaoh. Tsk. Smh

DappaD:
WizzyVine I won't continue with you much longer, seeing your questions are merely repetitive.
The end ni opin cinema
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 12:20pm On Aug 30, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
You are a bonafide and kofam unrepentant irredeemable shameless bare faced liar because you fabricated a pack of lies.

Now when you were asked to bring evidence of me where, according to your lies, I said "the ‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit" you were abysmally found wanting and with your pants down.

Is that what you're taught to learn at JW? Smh. Inventing malicious stories and misleading the readership with it, hmm?

Perhaps I made an error with the Scripture you quoted.

But you did say ‘the breath of life’/‘spirit’at Genesis 2:7 is God's holy spirit/spirit of God which is an erroneous blunder Mr MuttleyLaff.
See the below.

MuttleyLaff:


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Genesis 2:7 and Job 33:4 above, informs us, its "ruach" the Spirit from God and "neshamah" that keeps the human body animated.


Fyi, "ruach", in Hebrew, with its corresponding Greek word "pneuma" essentially and in an almost oversimplified way means force. It is breath, wind, spirit of God, all rolled in as one thing. It in a sense, is the invisible force or power of God, hence why being perceived as a Spirit, so yes, "ruach" is the Spirit of God.In fact you wont wrong in saying that "ruach" or "Ha Ruach Ha Kodesh" is the Holy Spirit, as in, the Spirit of God.
...


Look at the underlined words.
And last time I checked, the ‘spirit/breath of life’ at Genesis 2:7 is exactly the same impersonal spirit/breath/lifeforce mentioned at Ecclesiastes 12:7.

From the Law of Transitivity in Mathematics: A=B, B=C, A=C; this statement holds with regards to the claim you made last year so I maintain my stand when I say you have gaps in your knowledge as to what God's holy spirit is.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 12:24pm On Aug 30, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Typical prooftexting, why not read Exodus 7:1 close enough to see, how and who made Moshe aka Moses, seem like God to Pharaoh, hmm? Read closely enough to see who bestowed Moshe aka Moses, the privilege to be a divine representative of God before Pharaoh. Tsk. Smh

The end ni opin cinema

Thank you @ the above highlighted words Mr MuttleyLaff. Let me use your analogy now.

So since Jesus is also a divine representative of God—as you put it, does this still make him the same as his Father, Jehovah? smiley
Please read John 12:45, 14:9, Colossians 1:15 and Hebrews 1:3 let's see where the confusion is emanating from grin
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:25pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
Perhaps I made an error with the Scripture you quoted.

But you did say ‘the breath of life’/‘spirit’at Genesis 2:7 is God's holy spirit/spirit of God which is an erroneous blunder Mr MuttleyLaff.

Look at the underlined words.
And last time I checked, the ‘spirit/breath of life’ at Genesis 2:7 is exactly the same impersonal spirit/breath/lifeforce mentioned at Ecclesiastes 12:7.

From the Law of Transitivity in Mathematics: A=B, B=C, A=C; this statement holds with regards to the claim you made last year so I maintain my stand when I say you have gaps in your knowledge as to what God's holy spirit is.
[img]https://media./images/e3544b8117d3ecbb0cb8751f1ce0ff71/tenor.gif[/img]
Where is my apology?

Yahusha Ha Mashiach saves.
Only Him can save you. Smh.
I'll drum it in your blocked ears again. Context is King. Stop misinterpreting what I typed and doing so in isolation of the whole content
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 12:26pm On Aug 30, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://media./images/e3544b8117d3ecbb0cb8751f1ce0ff71/tenor.gif[/img]

Where is my apology?

Yahusha Ha Mashiach saves.
Only Him can save you. Smh.
I'll drum it in your blocked ears again. Context is King. Stop misinterpreting what I typed and doing so in isolation of the whole content

Abi you wan tell me say you no know Maths? grin
Go argue with the Transitivity law nah
I Don hear you grin
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:35pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
Abi you wan tell me say you no know Maths? grin
Go argue with the Transitivity law nah
I Don hear you grin
[img]https://s5/images/MuttleyLaffSLJackonStare.gif[/img]
"Abosi akan, omi ni ootu" loosely translated means "Water exposes a rogue crab"
People don't like the truth. The truth doesn't taste good when it's in a belly full of lies.

1/ What is the Aramaic/Hebrew word for the breathe of God?
2/ What is the Aramaic/Hebrew word for the Holy Spirit?
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 12:36pm On Aug 30, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s5/images/MuttleyLaffSLJackonStare.gif[/img]
"Abosi akan, omi ni ootu" loosely translated means "Water exposes a rogue crab"
People don't like the truth. The truth doesn't taste good when it's in a belly full of lies.

1/ What is the Aramaic/Hebrew word for the breathe of God?
2/ What is the Aramaic/Hebrew word for the Holy Spirit?

Mr MuttleyLaff undecided
I am more interested in why you had to equate the breath of life in humans to God's holy spirit.
Periodt.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:42pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
Mr MuttleyLaff undecided
I am more interested in why you had to equate the breath of life in humans to God's holy spirit.
Periodt.
Of course, you would be more interested in continuing to fabricate more lies and shifting the goal post from the first lie you originally concocted

Also you cant bring yourself to answer those two easy, simple, harmless, innocent, straightforward questions because you know answering them will let your sin find you out.

It must be how you all are taught in JW. There's no explanation for the reason why and how you are this so good in being shifty and skilled in peddling lies, except that you learned from your father, the devil, who himself, is the father of lies.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 12:45pm On Aug 30, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Of course, you would be more interested in continuing fabricating more lies and shifting the goal post from the original lie you concocted
Also you cant bring yourself to answer those two easy, simple, harmless, innocent, straightforward questions because you know answering them will let your sin find you out.

It must be how you all are taught in JW. There's no explanation for the reason why and how you are this so good in being shifty and skilled in peddling lies

Fabricating lies from what you said with your own mouth abi? grin

The post I cropped out from your former post is up there for anybody willing to know which of us is telling the lies grin
As if somebody will beat you if you agree you have gaps in your knowledge undecided
No wahala Mr MuttleyLaff continue grin
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 12:52pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
Fabricating lies from what you said with your own mouth abi? grin

The post I cropped out from your former post is up there for anybody willing to know which of us is telling the lies grin
As if somebody will beat you if you agree you have gaps in your knowledge undecided
No wahala Mr MuttleyLaff continue grin
I am still waiting for you to reproduce, the exact word for word of where I allegedly had said: "the ‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit"

You should go hide your face in a corner for being abysmally found wanting and with your pants down.

Now if you manage to calm down and return back with what is the Aramaic/Hebrew word for the breathe of God and what is the Aramaic/Hebrew word for the Holy Spirit, then you might get an epiphany
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by WizzyVine: 1:02pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:


You're misconstruing that Isaiah 9:6 scripture oo undecided
Are you saying that mortal men and the other angels in heaven haven't been called this title “Mighty God”[El Gibbor] before?
Well for your information, Moses was God[El Gibbor] when he stood before Pharaoh—Exodus 7:1
Angels in heaven are also mighty gods—Psalm 103:20 so that title isn't exclusive to one person only.




WizzyVine I won't continue with you much longer, seeing your questions are merely repetitive.

My questions are pointing you to search your soul and reconsider your heresy.

Look, Psalm 82:6 says,

I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High.

In that context,.all the children of God are gods. Yes, even as all the children of man are men, and all the children of rat are rats.

So, the scriptures say "I have made you a god unto Pharaoh." Notice the words, 'I have made', and the words 'a god'.

In sharp contrast to Isaiah 9:6, speaking concerning the son that should be born, "He shall be called the... Mighty God."

No mortal man or angel have ever been called 'The Mighty God'. Remove the definite article 'The' and return the 'G' case to lower case 'g' for god when referring to men and angels.

Being a god is not tantamount to being The Mighty God. There is a massive deception going on here.

Now, if you believe Jesus to be Michael, and that Michael died for your sins, it means you're a worshiper of angel Michael. But I know that at the mention of the name of 'Michael', no knee shall bow, and no tongue shall confess that Michael is Lord.

I never knew till today that such horrendous form of theological heresy exists in christiendom till today. I went online to research if any group exists with your kind of belief. I found to my surprise, that the 7th day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses hold this strange theology. No wonder other Christians label these groups as cults.

I then began to see why the Apostle Paul addressed this issue in his epistle to the church at Colosse, instructing them never to worship angels. And I seriously believe that this epistle would have been the best place for Paul to speak in detail about Michael if Michael was Jesus, just as the writer of Hebrews explained fully the issue of Melchizedek.

To confess against your own soul that Michael died for you, almost brought tears to my eyes. I saw how men can be so blinded by counterfeit theology when they neglect to pursue the revelation of the Holy Spirit.

See, the Bible is not alphabets and stories, it takes the help of the Holy Spirit to see light and illumination from the Living Word.

I'm not a trinitarian, neither can I ever be. I don't belong to any denomination, neither do I hold on to any denominational doctrines.

The truth of the Bible is my doctrine, I don't care about any church Creed. Of course, call me what you like, but simply, I am a disciple of Jesus Christ. And I am one of those who will judge angels as the Bible has said in 1Cor. 6:3. And Michael of course, is also one who shall be judged by the saints.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 1:03pm On Aug 30, 2020
WizzyVine:


My questions are pointing you to search your soul and reconsider your heresy.

Look, Psalm 82:6 says,

I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High.

In that context,.all the children of God are gods. Yes, even as all the children of man are men, and all the children of rat are rats.

So, the scriptures say "I have made you a god unto Pharaoh." Notice the words, 'I have made', and the words 'a god'.

In sharp contrast to Isaiah 9:6, speaking concerning the son that should be born, "He shall be called the... Mighty God."

No mortal man or angel have ever been called 'The Mighty God'. Remove the definite article 'The' and return the 'G' case to lower case 'g' for god when referring to men and angels.

Being a god is not tantamount to being The Mighty God. There is a massive deception going on here.

Now, if you believe Jesus to be Michael, and that Michael died for your sins, it means you're a worshiper of angel Michael. But I know that at the mention of the name of 'Michael', no knee shall bow, and no tongue shall confess that Michael is Lord.

I never knew till today that such horrendous form of theological heresy exists in christiendom till today. I went online to research if any group exists with your kind of belief. I found to my surprise, that the 7th day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses hold this strange theology. No wonder other Christians label these groups as cults.

I then began to see why the Apostle Paul addressed this issue in his epistle to the church at Colosse, instructing them never to worship angels. And I seriously believe that this epistle would have been the best place for Paul to speak in detail about Michael if Michael was Jesus, just as the writer of Hebrews explained fully the issue of Melchizedek.

To confess against your own soul that Michael died for you, almost brought tears to my eyes. I saw how men can be so blinded by counterfeit theology when they neglect to pursue the revelation of the Holy Spirit.

See, the Bible is not alphabets and stories, it takes the help of the Holy Spirit to see light and illumination from the Living Word.

I'm not a trinitarian, neither can I ever be. I don't belong to any denomination, neither do I hold on to any denominational doctrines.

The truth of the Bible is my doctrine, I don't care about any church Creed. Of course, call me what you like, but simply, I am a disciple of Jesus Christ. And I am one of those who will judge angels as the Bible has said in 1Cor. 5. And Michael of course, is also one who shall be judged by the saints.






OK!
So you will go to heaven and judge angels abi?
Safe journey on your trip there grin
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 1:05pm On Aug 30, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
[s]I am still waiting for you to reproduce, the exact word for word of where I allegedly had said: "the ‘spirit’[ruach] at Ecclesiastes 12:7 meant God's holy spirit"

You should go hide your face in a corner for being abysmally found wanting and with your pants down.

Now if you manage to calm down and return back with what is the Aramaic/Hebrew word for the breathe of God and what is the Aramaic/Hebrew word for the Holy Spirit, then you might get an epiphany
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You have been ignored successfully ✓.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 1:06pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:
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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by WizzyVine: 1:14pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:


OK!
So you will go to heaven and judge angels abi?
Safe journey on your trip there grin

To be deceived, you only need to be ignorant. But, when you openly parade that ignorance in a show of pride, it is disheartening.

Read the scriptures:

1 Cor. 6:3

Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 1:31pm On Aug 30, 2020
WizzyVine:


To be deceived, you only need to be ignorant. But, when you openly parade that ignorance in a show of pride, it is disheartening.

Read the scriptures:

1 Cor. 6:3

Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

That's why I asked one simple question:



So you will go to heaven and judge angels abi? grin



Mr WizzyVine I didn't argue with you. I only wished you safe journey on the trip you're to embark on.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by WizzyVine: 1:37pm On Aug 30, 2020
DappaD:


That's why I asked one simple question:



So you will go to heaven and judge angels abi? grin



Mr WizzyVine I didn't argue with you. I only wished you safe journey on the trip you're to embark on.


Why don't you direct your question to the One who wrote that verse of scripture? Am I the writer?
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 1:42pm On Aug 30, 2020
WizzyVine:


Why don't you direct your question to the One who wrote that verse of scripture? Am I the writer?

What more can I say Mr WizzyVine?
See problem oo
You said you're going to heaven to judge Michael and the angels, then I said
OK! Safe journey on your trip there. grin

What more do you want me to say, WizzyVine? undecided
That I agree with your fictitious claim? undecided undecided

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:45pm On Aug 30, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
You my dear Sire, you're unbelievable. Smh

What beats a better workshop of Satan, more than JW Organisation, huh? There can never be "Salem" in the midst of twisted worshipers belonging to the PRINCE of this WORLD deserving punishment (i.e. Isaiah 48:22 and Isaiah 57:21)

Fyi instead of prooftexting with Isaiah 9:7 and 1 Corinthians 14:33, trying hard to make fetch happen, just know that, God is not, a God of sheeple and lemming(s) made up of Maximus69 and other Jehovah's Witnesses Organization members

@ highlighted is what i want to comment on.

Your own God is not a God of organized orderly worshipers but ours is the God of PEACE.

Thanks for your time Sir! smiley
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:56pm On Aug 30, 2020
WizzyVine:


Wrong interpretation of scripture. Very very misleading. Now, judge from your own statements, "Michael at that time had no power over Satan." If Michael is the same Jesus whom Isaiah called "The Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace...." How then can the creator not have power over his creature?

[highlight]Michael as a warrior angel has no authority to do anything until he is commanded[/b]. Since he wasn't ordered to deal with Satan at that point in time, he can't do anything. In Revelation 12, he was on a full fledged war as the commander of the army.

Jesus (Michael) after his earthly assignment returned to heaven and sat at the right hand of God {Act 7:56} until JEHOVAH the (ALMIGHTY GOD) ordered him to start Acting as King! Psalms 110:1 compare to Act 2:34-35

So Jesus was never the Almighty God, he was enthroned and it was after his enthronement that he was given the power {Matthew 28:18} to start ruling in the midst of his enemies! smiley

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