Janosky:

Continue deceiving yourselves

Ask any Muslim if he's a Servant of Jehovah... Them fit stone you sef..

But, Who are Trinitarians?
ALL Triune pagan deity devotees pretending to be so called "body of Christ" with different versions of Trinity FRAUD.
The Catholic Church form their "Mother of God" inside Trinity FRAUD

Janosky:


In fact your claim is FALSE & very Dubious.
See The screenshot evidence.
Solite3 Lienus I have more PROOF of your self deceit and Confusion.
Bros Dappa loves you so much,he suggested you go consult a Shrink.
Trinity FRAUD is not making you think straight anymore

Janosky:


In fact your claim is FALSE & very Dubious.
See The screenshot evidence.
Solite3 Lienus I have more PROOF of your self deceit and Confusion.
Bros Dappa loves you so much,he suggested you go consult a Shrink.
Trinity FRAUD is not making you think straight anymore

Maximus69:


Let him continue lying and deceiving himself!

Blabbermouth:
We all believe they are saved. I was more concerned about the "how"... Over here, we accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, Believe in the Son of God, get born-again and we are saved by His grace.

You believe in "Sheol"?

KNOWMORE56:


If I talk sey they dey run from questions, Maximus69 go say no be so.

Na only watchtower devotees their manipulations dey work for their head.

I also have some questions:

What do you want us/me to understand from your posts?:

1. Jesus is not God at all,

2[b]. Jesus is a god but not the real God[/b], He's a fake God,

3. Jesus is a false god not the true God; he's made God by trinitarians only.

Please, do well to support your answers with RELEVANT Bible references.

Take note of the word RELEVANT.

Haddeylium, Maximus69, DappaD, Chatinent, Janosky, and other Witnesses

solite3:
see liars, where did solite say Jesus and the father are same person?

solite3:


They are gods, no problem, they are not God.

Jesus is God and the mighty God Jehovah himself.

solite3:
So your fellow non Trinitarian can stone you because of different version of non Trinitarian pagan god?
All non Trinue pagan devotee pretending to serving God, with different versions of non trinitarian fraud.

DappaD:



Below contains the wrong assertion you made—all you ever say is wrong btw



Let's assume that Solite3's other name is Sodark3. Is Sodark3 the same as Solite3? Yes. Because Solite3=Sodark3

That's what you asserted at the above.
Stop all these childish lies as more is expected from you.
You can see this useless trinity god is just spinning you left and right because you've refused to come and know the only true God, Jehovah AND his Son, Jesus Christ.—John 17:3

Maximus69:


We don't waste our precious time on fruitless arguments, i'm presenting to you what we believe so don't expect me to start arguing with you. If you know any better performing group than JWs please! please!! please!!! go quickly now and start worshiping with them without delay!
God's Kingdom is fast approaching and if he did not see the blood, the destroyer will not spare you! Exodus 12:13
Thanks so much, God bless you Sir!

solite3:
see the definition of 'being' below, your fraud has being busted. Lie lie witness

kindly show me where I said that Jesus and the father are the same person?

solite3:

Jesus and the father are not the same person but rather one being.

It shows you dont even know about the trinity

Your dictionary Confirms a Being is a person.
Solite3 LIENUS, congratulations for your provision of the ammunition to nail your Trinity Fraud and your self deceitful Confusion

Csonice1:



That's okay with me, let me drop this: u don't have to reply.

Ancient of days means "Eternal Father", that is "Father of eternity": let's see what the amplified version of the Bible says.

ISAIAH9:6
AMP:"For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder, and His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father [of Eternity], Prince of Peace."

John Saw Christ in the very image of the ancient of days. That's after he has been re-entrusted with the Glory of the throne.

DANIEL7:9
AMP: "I kept looking until thrones were placed [for the assessors with the Judge], and the Ancient of Days [God, the eternal Father] took His seat, Whose garment was white as snow and the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was like the fiery flame; its wheels were burning fire."

REVELATIONS1:12-14
12:Then I turned to see [whose was] the voice that was speaking to me, and on turning I saw seven golden lampstands,
13And in the midst of the lampstands [One] like a Son of Man, clothed with a robe which reached to His feet and with a girdle of gold about His breast.
14 His head and His hair were white like white wool, [as white] as snow, and His eyes [flashed] like a flame of fire. "

The identical look would have been overlooked if not for the Name.

DappaD:
Acehart
When I said Jehovah doesn't go above the standards he set, you should've asked what I meant rather running straight to conclusions.

Why do you think Jesus Christ(Michael), the firstborn and only begotten Son of Jehovah God had to come down to the earth to give his life on the torture stake?

After Adam sinned, he lost his perfect life and brought upon sin and death to all of us (Romans 5:12)
Why didn't Jehovah just say “I'll forgive the children of Adam and make all of them perfect” just like that? Because of his own principle he follows: “A life for a life”—Exodus 21:23

All of us—Adam's descendants are imperfect so none of us can redeem/rescue ourselves from slavery to sin and death—Psalm 49:7-9

So Jesus had to offer up his own perfect life as a ransom on the torture stake to make up for the perfect life that Adam had but lost.—Matthew 20:28, 1Corinthians 15:47, 1Timothy 2:5,6
So that by just exercising faith in Jesus, we can be redeemed from sin and death, have a good conscience and later on, gain everlasting life—John 3:16, 6:40, Romans 6:23, 1John 5:13


That's just one example, there are others.

Csonice1:



That's okay with me, let me drop this: u don't have to reply.

Ancient of days means "Eternal Father", that is "Father of eternity": let's see what the amplified version of the Bible says.

ISAIAH9:6
AMP:"For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder, and His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father [of Eternity], Prince of Peace."

In Revelations1, John Saw Christ in the very image of the ancient of days:. That's after he has been re-entrusted with the Glory of the throne.

DANIEL7:9
AMP: "I kept looking until thrones were placed [for the assessors with the Judge], and the Ancient of Days [God, the eternal Father] took His seat, Whose garment was white as snow and the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was like the fiery flame; its wheels were burning fire."

REVELATIONS1:12-14
12:Then I turned to see [whose was] the voice that was speaking to me, and on turning I saw seven golden lampstands,
13And in the midst of the lampstands [One] like a Son of Man, clothed with a robe which reached to His feet and with a girdle of gold about His breast.
14 His head and His hair were white like white wool, [as white] as snow, and His eyes [flashed] like a flame of fire. "

The identical look would have been overlooked if not for the Name.

Janosky:


Continue deceiving yourself twisting the holy scriptures

Where did Revelation 1:12-14 make your fictitious claim that Ancient of days is Jesus Christ?

God, your spurious eternal Father shadow boxing..

Csonice1 dey write him own Bible put am inside God's word, by fire by force

Janosky:

Continue deceiving yourself twisting the holy scriptures
Where did Revelation 1:12-14 make your fictitious claim that Ancient of days is Jesus Christ?
God, your spurious eternal Father shadow boxing..
Csonice1 dey write him own Bible put am inside God's word, by fire by force

Maximus69:


It's OK, if he thinks he knows the truth, let him go and worship with his fellow worshipers in spirit and in truth!

Jesus never said it's by arguement but "by FRUIT" so let everyone choose his own path it's a free world!

Csonice1:


You are right, it's the fruits that make the difference.
But I'm surprised that you agreed with Janosky. I just quoted the amplified version of the Bible "word for word". It's one of the few versions that are elaborate while maintaining exactly the meaning of the original text. You declined my offer to examine the scriptures and discuss with you on the topic; and i honoured your decision. I only highlighted a few scriptures to give you a brief picture. But many events have happened from the beginning (of eternity) before John had that vision.

Anyway I agree with you that true Christians must worship God in Spirit and in Truth.
Goodnight.

Maximus69:


So instead of arguing or debating on paperworks {letters) that's not yielding positivity anywhere why not go in search of those who are worshiping in spirit and truth, then join them so as to become a part of the body bearing the FRUIT? Matthew 7:16-18
I think that should certainly be the body of Christ for real! Ephesians 4:12
Good night!

DappaD:



Below contains the wrong assertion you made—all you ever say is wrong btw



Let's assume that Solite3's other name is Sodark3. Is Sodark3 the same as Solite3? Yes. Because Solite3=Sodark3

That's what you asserted at the above.
Stop all these childish lies as more is expected from you.
You can see this useless trinity god is just spinning you left and right because you've refused to come and know the only true God, Jehovah AND his Son, Jesus Christ.—John 17:3

Csonice1:

Alright.

Let me establish this:
1. Salvation has nothing to do with being a Church goer (in your denomination);the principles of salvation are in God's Word: to transform us into the image of Christ; in character; in righteousness:having the fruits of the spirit, while not denying the power thereof [but walking in the power of God]: for this is God's will for us.

2. You have to fellowship with the brethren; the body of Christ.


Don't tell me you are lacking in any of the two.

Maximus69:


The bolded is inaccurate knowledge!

Salvation is not certain until Satan is no more!

The first century Christian congregation was filled with Born Again Christians, only few of them are not anointed by the spirit that's why Paul was talking about being saved always!

From Abel till John the baptist has their names already written in the list of those righteos to be resurrected back to life on earth. The thief that was executed beside Jesus will also gain a resurrection back to life here on earth, so he's not saved. All these people aren't born again so their own Salvation is still on hold until after Christ's 1,000 years reign when Satan is destroyed completely!

MuttleyLaff:
I will explain "how" and affirmative, I do 10000% believe in "Sheol" as you soon would see confirmed in my considerable long winded explanation

Hell or better put, Hades, actually is, a Greek concept, and the Jews, in reality have no concept of Hell or Hades, they have Sheol, alright, but as for the concept of Hell or Hades, this is a Greek one.

Now Blabbermouth, it will interest you to appreciate, that, Sheol is more of a proper and real biblical Israelite concept of where the dead are ''interned'' Sheol in an oversimplified or elementary manner can be grave and/or has been referred to as grave

Grave aka tomb, crypts, ossuaries, sepulchre sites, cemetery, catacombs, mausoleum et cetera are merely places of deposit for a corpse. So Blabbermouth, Sheol is the realm of where the dead or departed souls are confined, sent down into, held et cetera.

Contrary to popular belief, souls, do not linger in the air. Souls, do not stay in limbo. Souls, do not hang about. Souls, do not make revisits et cetera

Blabbermouth, real magic happens when you understand the "how" So this is "how" the real magic happened/happens. Over here, we accept Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of the whole wide world, believe in Him as the Son of God, by default become automatically born-again (i.e. born from high) and because of the confession with mouth, that “Jesus is Lord,” and believing in our heart that God raised Him from the dead, we are saved by His grace, but here is the thing, until Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ in the New Testament astonishing interjection, Sheol, in general, to the Jews, without necessarily distinguishing between righteous or unrighteous souls, has been the realm of the dead or abode of the dead. Period.

We have verses in OT (e.g. Psalm 9:17 etcetera) suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it was, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ in the New Testament that brought things into perspective when He shared the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol with the story of the Rich Man being elsewhere and Abraham with the Poor Man being on a different side.

Remember Blabbermouth, just like because you're telling a joke, it doesn't necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality, so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man hyperbolic illustration, given by Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ

Digging in deeper into this. Sheol (i.e. the original Hebrew concept of afterlife) now, has gray lines shared with Gehenna (i.e. the refuse dump in Jerusalem hyperbolically referred to, by Jesus in Matthew 5:29 Matthew 18:9 and Mark 9:47) and Hell (i.e. a Greek mythology and Greek concept of afterlife) which arent by most, really understood.

The etymology of afterlife from a Jewish concept (i.e. Sheol, with 2 sections) has changed over time and Sheol, since, has being interchangeably replaced with Gehenna and Hell/Hades

Reiterating, Hell which has become synonymous with Hades, is neither Hebrew or Greek in origin. Sheol is, what you'll find in the original Hebrew text for any word for Hell. In other places, Hades or Hell was the Greek substitution for the part of Sheol where the Rich man is, from the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus

As a matter of fact, Hell, actually finds it roots in the classic Greek mythology, Hades, where Hades interestingly and actually, was the ancient Greek god of the underworld's name. This god's name (i.e. Hades) later turned to mean the place or abode of the dead, which actually is exactly what Sheol is, what is signifies or represents.

If we are to talk about Gehenna, well it is a valley, a valley in Jerusalem, used as a dumping refuse site and so was used by Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ to depict the Lake of fire (i.e. it is a place of destruction, as in, via incineration, a place for destroying things)

As I have earlier mentioned, where Gehenna was the incinerating refuse dump in Jerusalem, Hades however, historically and originally is the name of a Greek god until it got turned to meaning the place or abode of the dead. It later got interchanged with Hell, which is from a German word root.

It was bible translators who were substituting the original Hebrew word Sheol (i.e. the part where the dead of the Rich man sort are), with Greek counterparts Hades/Hell that made the legacy word(s), Hades/Hell, stick with us today

Death, is not a physical person but it will cease to exist because it will be destroyed when figuratively thrown into a physical lake of fire

Blabbermouth, on a side note, this might interest you, do you know that in Yoruba spirituality, there is the absence of a concept of sin and that doubly interesting, in same Yoruba spirituality, there is the absence eternal damnation or any kind of judgement after the end of the world. Yoruba spirituality happens to be Hell/Hades/Lake of Fire agnostic

I hope, Blabbermouth, you didn't find my the "how" explanation long winded, just as I did advanced warn

solite3:
false witness, where did solite3 say the father and Jesus are the same person?
Jesus (Son) is Jehovah (father) yes

But where did I ever say Jesus is the father?

Maximus69:


Let me not say anything at all regarding the bolded because i may insult TRINITY!

solite3:
false witness, where did solite3 say the father and Jesus are the same person?
Jesus is Jehovah yes
But where did I ever say Jesus is the father?

Blabbermouth:

I Will like to see bible verses to see its consistency with the word of God.

Janosky:



Solite3 LIENUS sold himself captive to Triune pagan deity delusion

Acehart:


I would have responded but you aren’t answering me by your own words (for you have grafted in sentences from your online resources): [s]For each word I have spoken, you have responded with someone else’s words.[/s]

I end by saying God is One and He has always been one. The most important question is: Have you been washed in the Blood of the Lamb? Are you living a Holy and Righteous life? You have no need to answer those questions.

Have a lovely time wherever you are.

Maximus69:


The first and foremost is IDENTIFICATION of Jesus' GROUP! Matthew 7:20

Satan keeps transforming himself into an angel of light {2Corinthians 11:14} therefore many false preachers and teachers have gone into the world {Matthew 24:11} surely this ones are working for Satan {John 8:44} so before thinking of denomination you need to consider why can't all Christians worship the same way? 1Corinthians 1:10
Of course Satan is creating more and more sects and all of them are claiming Christians! Matthew 7:21-23
So your two opinions are futile if you can't identify the GROUP Jesus is using to dispense spiritual food in this endtime! Matthew 24:45

DappaD:
@Acehart,
Your first mistake was to tell me my words are unoriginal. I'm not saying I know too much—but if you need me to properly school you on the Bible via video call I will gladly do it—so that we will see whether the words I speak are mine or not.

Csonice1:


I understand your point. but I have a word for you.

What if you're the only one who truly worships God in your generation? Its unlikely: but possible.
Remember, Jesus asked

Luke 18:8 " I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? "

So there is a possibility that people's love will grow cold and forsake the Faith. But to what extent, we do not know. What if it happens like in the days of noah.? that only one family (or one man) is left?
Will you lose your salvation just like that?

your salvation is not based on any man's decision. Desire the sincere milk that you may grow; have the engrafted Word of God in you; it's through it that you are saved by Faith; If you believe in Christ, ask for the Holy Spirit and The Father will give Him to you; He will Guide you.

It all starts with knowing Christ Jesus. believing that Christ came in the flesh, died and resurrected and has ascended to heaven; all for us. then walk out your salvation with fear and trembling. The Holy Spirit will guide you.
Do not forsake the gathering of the brethren: the body of Christ. Then, you use the gifts in you for Exhortation, Edification and Comfort of the Church: and soul winning.