KNOWMORE56:



I saw this sentence in your post

'... the one who gave him all the powers he was using...'

That's one person gave something and another one received it.

Check the verses below and tell me
who are the Angels singing praises to,

especially verse 11, in regards to 'to receive glory, honour,...

Revelation 4:8
"KJV:And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
9
KJV:And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,
10
KJV:The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
11
KJV:Thou art worthy, JEHOVAH , TO RECEIVE GLORY AND HONOUR AND POWER: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

They are singing praise to JEHOVAH Sir!

That's the import of the phrase

HALLELUJAH!

Maximus69:


They are singing praise to JEHOVAH Sir!

That's the import of the phrase

HALLELUJAH!

Ok, in this case the Father/Son 'RECEIVE GLORY AND HONOUR AND POWER:

for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.'

Therefore let no JWs say Jesus received GLORY AND HONOUR AND POWER

and for the sake of receiving, He's lesser in power.

Maximus69 has agreed that the Father also received power, Revelation 4:8-11;


Jesus also received power, Matthew 28:18

KJV:And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH.

and all things are Created by Him and for Him(Jesus), Colossians 1:16

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KJV:For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were CREATED BY HIM, AND FOR HIM:

KNOWMORE56:

Ok, in this case the Father/Son 'RECEIVE GLORY AND HONOUR AND POWER:
for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.'
Therefore let no JWs say Jesus received GLORY AND HONOUR AND POWER
and for the sake of receiving, He's lesser in power.
Maximus69 has agreed that the Father also received power, Revelation 4:8-11;
Jesus also received power, Matthew 28:18
KJV:And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH.
and all things are Created by Him and for Him(Jesus), Colossians 1:16
16
KJV:For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were CREATED BY HIM, AND FOR HIM:

Whatever my guy, whatever you believe!

Just be rest assured that JWs have all it takes to preach and teach God's word with efficacy, not just credulous religionists claiming what they can't explain! Isaiah 54:17

Maximus69:


Whatever my guy, whatever you believe!

Just be rest assured that JWs have all it takes to preach and teach God's word with efficacy, not just credulous religionists claiming what they can't explain! Isaiah 54:17

See what we have agreed together:

Trinitarians/JWs

1. Jesus is not a fake God, yes

2. Jesus received power, the Father also received power, yes

3. All things are Created by Jesus and are for Him Colossians 1:16; the same thing with the Father Revelation 4:11, Yes

therefore, Jesus is not less than the Father, yes!

God bless you!

Maximus69:
@Csonice1

I have advised you to go and worship your own God the best way you know and leave Jehovah's Witnesses, who have our own religious beliefs in peace!

But you keep arguing over what you can't explain from the scriptures, i knew you only carry the same self deceit like billions of rebellious people either claiming they know God on their own or just feel like nobody should tell them what to do with their lives!

Please Jehovah's Witnesses aren't looking for suchlike ones, our mission is to gather all those who believe in same line of thought regarding code of conduct and sacred services, that's why Jesus sent us out to go in search of the lost sheep of the house of Israel! Matthew 10:6 compare to Matthew 15:24

The sheep is a domestic pet that always finds it really difficult to do anything alone, it rely solely on the movement of a flock, this is very unlike a goat, this one detests moving together with the flock, a goat like doing everything on it's own without having to submit to any rules binding it and any other creature not even with it's own specie!

if you repent, the Lord will forgive you of this. especially the ones in bold letters.

by the way, were you not the one who once said we shouldn't argue about scriptures?. and when I wrote a long post, you warned me not to mention you in my "Epistles". Where is all of this now coming from?

With this, I will answer you with scriptures; since you've finally asked for it. Get ready.

KNOWMORE56:

See what we have agreed together:
Trinitarians/JWs
1. Jesus is not a fake God, yes
2. Jesus received power, the Father also received power, yes
3. All things are Created by Jesus and are for Him Colossians 1:16; the same thing with the Father Revelation 4:11, Yes
therefore, Jesus is not less than the Father, yes!
God bless you!

Go and use what you know to make disciples for your God, i'm making disciples for my Master Lord and King, he is not our God but without his teachings no man can please our God!

Csonice1:

if you repent, the Lord will forgive you of this. especially the ones in bold letters.
by the way, were you not the one who once said we shouldn't argue about scriptures?. and when I wrote a long post, you warned me not to mention you in my "Epistles". Where is all of this now coming from?
With this, I will answer you with scriptures; since you've finally asked for it. Get ready.

Don't bother yourself writing lengthy epistle because i don't have the time going through long stories!
Try to be brief as possible and i'll respond, it might not be favourable to you but that's what we believe!

Maximus69:


Don't bother yourself writing lengthy epistle because i don't have the time going through long stories!
Try to be brief as possible and i'll respond, it might not be favourable to you but that's what we believe!

Firstly, I have to say that you probably didn't understand what I meant in my post where I said
"The Holy Spirit will guide you". If you believe in Christ: then you are a child of God; and God's gift to his children is the Spirit. Therefore, there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh but by the Spirit (Romans8:1).When He guides you, you can never be led astray. never.

Secondly, you mentioned something about "isolated worship", we will discuss it as we proceed.

[Let's start with this: I will only give a few scriptures since you don't like long posts]

The Bible talks about two ways to attract the presence of God; and everything that comes with it.

1. By having a personal relationship with God; a personal fellowship and communion with the Father, Son and Spirit. It's almost hypocrisy if you don't have a personal relationship with God except in the presence of others.
Revelation 3:20
"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me."
it's only Him that can give you the ability to percieve, and the parameters to know those who worship Him sincerely; and as such, join them in fellowship.

2. The gathering of the brethren; Cooperate worship; Christians having fellowship with God.
Matthew 18:1
Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

The latter is made more perfect by the former; it is almost hypocrisy if you don't have a relationship with God except in the presence of others. You need to have a strong personal relationship with God.

{more to come}

Maximus69:


Go and use what you know to make disciples for your God, i'm making disciples for my Master Lord and King, he is not our God but without his teachings no man can please our God!

'..., he is not our God...' this your comment,...

You have posted that Moses was a god to Pharaoh,

and Jesus Himself was/is God to ....?


He's mighty God to who? Since you are not included. Isaiah 6:9

Maximus69:


Don't bother yourself writing lengthy epistle because i don't have the time going through long stories!
Try to be brief as possible and i'll respond, it might not be favourable to you but that's what we believe!

Maximus69: [reply cont'd.]

Any and every Christian is to emulate Christ Jesus. And in the life of Christ Jesus, He has a personal relationship with the Father. Most of his prayer time is spent alone (even though there are times when he prays with his disciples or even while preaching). But it's what He prays in the secret; during His personal time with the Father that is being rewarded in the open.[Mark1:35, Matthew 14:23, Matthew26:36-39, Mark6:46, Luke 5:33, Luke 6:12]

Matthew 6:5,6
"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."

If you don't have a personal relationship with God, you may find yourself praying to be seen as a prayer warrior; you may not even realize it. But if you have a personal walk with God; he will reward you in the open.
[For more, stuy the prayer life of the Lord Jesus]

The denomination makes no difference: the fruits do.
Flee from any man preaching about his ministry(denomination) as the only way to heaven.
when Jesus went over to the country of the Gadarenes, the only man he had a notable "encounter" with was the man from who demons were cast out. This man became the voice of Christ to all around him (even in Decapolis). It is a wonder that he didn't even have to follow Jesus,peter, James, etc [physically] for him to be approved of the Lord . Not that he didn't want to: Christ told him he didn't have to.[mark5:17-20]
I will quote only mark5:18&19 to make it brief, you can read the rest from your Bible.

Mark 5:18-19
"And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.
19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee ."

{More to come}

Maximus69:


Don't bother yourself writing lengthy epistle because i don't have the time going through long stories!
Try to be brief as possible and i'll respond, it might not be favourable to you but that's what we believe!

The disciples of Jesus found a man who was casting out demons in the name of Jesus; he didn't try to cast them out, he did it. Which implies that he believes in the power in the Name of Jesus. The disciples were offended but Jesus commended him. I guess what this man was doing is what you call isolated worship .


Mark 9:38-40
" And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
40 For he that is not against us is on our part ."

Be careful with the teachings of any man who preaches that his own denomination is the only true church; well, he can be saying so sincerely, but he is sincerely wrong.

Maximus69:


Don't bother yourself writing lengthy epistle because i don't have the time going through long stories!
Try to be brief as possible and i'll respond, it might not be favourable to you but that's what we believe!

At one time, Philip was led to speak to a man from Ethiopia; an eunuch. At length, this man was saved. immediately Philip disappeared without inviting him to his denomination. An the Eunuch went his way rejoicing. [For more, read Acts8:26-40]

Acts 8:37-39
"And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing."

That single sentence was all it took; because it came from the heart.

{More to come}

Maximus69:


Don't bother yourself writing lengthy epistle because i don't have the time going through long stories!
Try to be brief as possible and i'll respond, it might not be favourable to you but that's what we believe!

Peter had a personal prayer altar; a personal place(time) of fellowship and communion with God.
(Acts10:9-20; for context, read Acts10:1-48) I will quote only what peter said:

Acts 10:34&35
"Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. "

KNOWMORE56:

'..., he is not our God...' this your comment,...
You have posted that Moses was a god to Pharaoh,
and Jesus Himself was/is God to ....?
He's mighty God to who? Since you are not included. Isaiah 6:9

Moses was a mighty God that challenge all the God's of Egypt including Pharaoh who was also revered as a God!

Jesus was a mighty God that drove away many powerful evil spirits and cured many illnesses in the Judah.

So Pharaoh never acknowledged Moses as his God neither did anyone acknowledge Jesus as their God in Judah!

Thomas said "my Lord and my God" in amazement, people in many lands often do the same, when they find something amazing they'll exclaim, so Thomas never meant to call Jesus his God!

I hope you won't compain again. With the same excuse of not having time
[ I know these scriptures shows the difference between scriptural truth and what they taught you all this while; but if you choose to agree with the Word of God, it will be a blessing to you]

@ Maximus69

Maximus69:


Don't bother yourself writing lengthy epistle because i don't have the time going through long stories!
Try to be brief as possible and i'll respond, it might not be favourable to you but that's what we believe!

Now, let's examine the life of Paul.
Having said much already I will make this as brief as I can, you can read the rest from your Bible.


GALATIANS1:1-17
"1: Paul, an apostle—not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead—
2 and all the brothers who are with me, To the churches of Galatia:
3Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ,
4who gave himself for our sins to deliver us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father,
5to whom be the glory forever and ever. Amen.

6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—
7:not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.
8:But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.
9:As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.


10:For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.
11:For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man's gospel.
12:For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ.
13:For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God violently and tried to destroy it.
14And I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers.
15But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace,
16was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone;
17nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me, but I went away into Arabia, and returned again to Damascus."

(You can read till verse 24)

Csonice1:


Peter had a personal prayer altar; a personal place(time) of fellowship and communion with God.
(Acts10:9-20; for context, read Acts10:1-48) I will quote only what peter said:

Acts 10:34&35
"Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. "

Please your numerous response to just one post is too much, try to make a short response to my post and let's reason together!

Peter was referring to the man named Cornelius, and going by the event Cornelius was asked to go and meet the Christians who were united in FAITH, they will teach him how to worship God acceptably and he will continue following instructions from the body as one of them. Act 10:1-33

So Cornelius never worship God without IDENTIFYING the GROUP God was using to dispense spiritual food in the first century. Note how Cornelius honoured Peter, that shows he is now aware of the GROUP God is using to dispense spiritual food which Peter is a member of that GROUP!

Csonice1:


Now, let's examine the life of Paul.
Having said much already I will make this as brief as I can, you can read the rest from your Bible.


GALATIANS1:1-17
"1: Paul, an apostle—not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead—
2 and all the brothers who are with me, To the churches of Galatia:
3Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ,
4who gave himself for our sins to deliver us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father,
5to whom be the glory forever and ever. Amen.

6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—
7:not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.
8:But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.
9:As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.


10:For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.
11:For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man's gospel.
12:For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ.
13:For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God violently and tried to destroy it.
14And I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers.
15But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace,
16was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone;
17nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me, but I went away into Arabia, and returned again to Damascus."

(You can read till verse 24)

I can see that you truthfully want to chat about this matter but it's like you don't know how to go about being brief and straight to point, so let's try this.

I believe Jesus chose a group of people whom he is using to educate others about God's Kingdom. Did you agree with that? If not

Please what exactly is your own opinion?

Please try to be brief and straight to the point!

Maximus69:


Please your numerous response to just one post is too much, try to make a short response to my post and let's reason together!

Peter was referring to the man named Cornelius, and going by the event Cornelius was asked to go and meet the Christians who were united in FAITH, they will teach him how to worship God acceptably and he will continue following instructions from the body as one of them. Act 10:1-33

So Cornelius never worship God without IDENTIFYING the GROUP God was using to dispense spiritual food in the first century. Note how Cornelius honoured Peter, that shows he is now aware of the GROUP God is using to dispense spiritual food which Peter is a member of that GROUP!

You missed the point.
Peter went only to tell them of a man named Jesus who was anointed with the holy Spirit and with power and he went about doing good; they believed it. As easy as that: they were saved and got baptised. No methodology, no errenous teaching, not even an invitation to a denomination.

Pls, Check my next last post.
Also check the encounter between Philip and the Ethiopian eunuch: Just take your time and read the scriptures.

Csonice1:


You missed the point.
Peter went only to tell them of a man named Jesus who was anointed with the holy Spirit and with power and he went about doing good; they believed it. As easy as that: they were saved and got baptised. No methodology, no errenous teaching, not even an invitation to a denomination.

Pls, Check my next last post.
Also check the encounter between Philip and the Ethiopian eunuch: Just take your time and read the scriptures.

Cornelius acknowledged Peter and bowed before him! Act 10:25-26

The Ethiopian Eunuch acknowledged that Philip knew better and asked for more enlightenment. Act 8:26-40

After baptism each Christian is expected to continue associating with fellow believers for advanced learning apart from the elementary teachings about the Christ! Hebrew 5:12-14; 10:24-25; 13:7,17

Both Cornelius and the Ethiopian Eunuch were former worshipers of the God of Israel but they were practicing Judaism, now they must change to Christianity and begin taking instructions from the Apostles {Act 2:42} whom Jesus chose to continue feeding his domestics! John 21:15-17

So there is a GROUP of teachers who will continue teaching the congregation and whoever disobey them is disobeying Jesus himself because whatever they bind on earth is already bound in heaven! Matthew 16:19

Maximus69:
Never mind Sir, we garrit! we garrit!!
No query Sir!

You and your other fellows will get a clear response from me if you respectfully, without insult pass your message or else I will pass your insult back to you.

And No I m not sure you got anything. Dont worry I will keep you in my prayers for deliverance, because it is not easy to break out from Jehovah witness organisation brain washing and mind controlling for so long, especially as they trained you to hate christian and God (trinity).
You believe your organisation is next to God, and the only way to escape Armageddon into the paradise, but the truth is far from that.

Jesus said he is the only way to eternal life, not Jehovah witness organisation or any other.

Maximus69:


I can see that you truthfully want to chat about this matter but it's like you don't know how to go about being brief and straight to point, so let's try this.

I believe Jesus chose a group of people whom he is using to educate others about God's Kingdom. Did you agree with that? If not

Please what exactly is your own opinion?

Please try to be brief and straight to the point!

Opinion? I have no opinion here (humbly speaking). I lay my opinions down that the word of God will be all in all.

There are two words in the Bible used to describe two dimensions of the body of Christ:
1.The Church
2. Churches.
( I will give us a few scriptures.)

The Church is the general Assembly of the first born; both those in the body and them that sleep; Children of God across all strata of human existence. Hebrew12:22-

Hebrews 12:22
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
(Ref.: Romans12:5 *Icor.12:12,13,14,20 *Ephesians4:16, Eph.5:23)

The churches are what we know as "denominations". (You will find them all over the scriptural Epistles). So long as the individuals are saved through genuine faith in Christ Jesus, they are Children of God. In this, Only two or three persons are enough, irrespective of their denominations. By the way, you can't even vouch for everyone in your denomination in terms of holiness unless through revelation.
You may have reasons to believe that a denomination is doing well, no problem with that; but saying that it's the only true church might even be blaspemy.

Matthew 18:19
"Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

Of course, No denomination is mentioned in this verse(20).
The Lord is concerned about every one of the "churches" enabling them to work on their weaknesses and improve in strength.
He rebuked the bad and commends the good. To the end that we all will be fully transformed into his very image; in righteousness, in the fruits and also in power.

Instead of you to go and pray for yourself, family and extended families!
Well we know you often pray even when people don't agree with your teachings, for your information Jesus only pray for those who have accepted him as God's representative {John 17:8-9} Jesus will never pray for those who refuse to accept his teachings!
God finds prayers offered in behalf of people who don't accept his laws as something detestable {Proverbs 28:9} that's why he asked Jeremiah not to pray in behalf of those who refused to accept his counsel {Jeremiah 11:14, 14:11} that's why Jehovah's Witnesses will never pray for anyone who is not ready to accept our teachings!
So if you truthfully believe in God's word and his righteous standards you should know by now that you don't even understand the Bible in your hands!

solite3:


You and your other fellows will get a clear response from me if you respectfully, without insult pass your message or else I will pass your insult back to you.

And No I m not sure you got anything. Dont worry I will keep you in my prayers for deliverance, because it is not easy to break out from Jehovah witness organisation brain washing and mind controlling for so long, especially as they trained you to hate christian and God (trinity).
You believe your organisation is next to God, and the only way to escape Armageddon into the paradise, but the truth is far from that.

Jesus said he is the only way to eternal life, not Jehovah witness organisation or any other.

Csonice1:


Opinion? I have no opinion here (humbly speaking). I lay my opinions down that the word of God will be all in all.

There are two words in the Bible used to describe two dimensions of the body of Christ:
1.The Church
2. Churches.
( I will give us a few scriptures.)

The Church is the general Assembly of the first born; both those in the body and them that sleep; Children of God across all strata of human existence. Hebrew12:22-

Hebrews 12:22
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
(Ref.: Romans12:5 *Icor.12:12,13,14,20 *Ephesians4:16, Eph.5:23)

The churches are what we know as "denominations". (You will find them all over the scriptural Epistles). So long as the individuals are saved through genuine faith in Christ Jesus, they are Children of God. In this, Only two or three persons are enough, irrespective of their denominations. By the way, you can't even vouch for everyone in your denomination in terms of holiness unless through revelation.
You may have reasons to believe that a denomination is doing well, no problem with that; but saying that it's the only true church might even be blaspemy.

Matthew 18:19
"Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

Of course, No denomination is mentioned in this verse(20).
The Lord is concerned about every one of the "churches" enabling them to work on their weaknesses and improve in strength.
He rebuked the bad and commends the good. To the end that we all will be fully transformed into his very image; in righteousness, in the fruits and also in power.

STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!

Just a brief response will do oga!

Did Jesus appoint teachers over his congregation (followers) YES or NO!

Maximus69:
Instead of you to go and pray for yourself, family and extended families!
Well we know you often pray even when people don't agree with your teachings, for your information Jesus only pray for those who have accepted him as God's representative {John 17:8-9} Jesus will never pray for those who refuse to accept his teachings!
God finds prayers offered in behalf of people who don't accept his laws as something detestable {Proverbs 28:9} that's why he asked Jeremiah not to pray in behalf of those who refused to accept his counsel {Jeremiah 11:14, 14:11} that's why Jehovah's Witnesses will never pray for anyone who is not ready to accept our teachings!
So if you truthfully believe in God's word and his righteous standards you should know by now that you don't even understand the Bible in your hands!

Good you made it clear once again that you reject Jesus and his teaching but you will regret it, you love the darkness because your works are evil.
you are blind and do not see where you are heading.
You prefer cultism to God.

Maximus69:


Cornelius acknowledged Peter and bowed before him! Act 10:25-26

The Ethiopian Eunuch acknowledged that Philip knew better and asked for more enlightenment. Act 8:26-40

After baptism each Christian is expected to continue associating with fellow believers for advanced learning apart from the elementary teachings about the Christ! Hebrew 5:12-14; 10:24-25; 13:7,17

Both Cornelius and the Ethiopian Eunuch were former worshipers of the God of Israel but they were practicing Judaism, now they must change to Christianity and begin taking instructions from the Apostles {Act 2:42} whom Jesus chose to continue feeding his domestics! John 21:15-17

So there is a GROUP of teachers who will continue teaching the congregation and whoever disobey them is disobeying Jesus himself because whatever they bind on earth is already bound in heaven! Matthew 16:19

The eunuch went his way: Philip disappeared without making any mention of any group.
The only thing this men (Philip, Peter) went to preach was to tell them about Christ. They believed that Jesus is the son of God.

As simple as that; they were saved. Not even invitation to any denomination as good as that may be, they never said anything like "if you are not a member of our denomination, you will perish" or something; the early Church had slight differences but all United by the Spirit in Christ: Now, if you look closely at the differences, most of them are negligible.

Check some of my previous posts especially the ones on the life of Jesus while on Earth. I guess you missed them.

solite3:
Good you made it clear once again that you reject Jesus and his teaching but you will regret it, you love the darkness because your works are evil.
you are blind and do not see where you are heading.
You prefer cultism to God.

Bàbá Aládúrà (Prayer Warrior) go and pray for yourself and your families!

Jehovah's Witnesses only pray with people who are willing to accept counsel from our own God! Proverbs 28:9

Maximus69:


Bàbá Aládúrà (Prayer Warrior) go and pray for yourself and your families!

Jehovah's Witnesses only pray with people who are willing to accept counsel from our own God! Proverbs 28:9

Who is talking of praying with jws pagan religion? God forbid

Your religion has nothing to do with the truth of God's word

Csonice1:


The eunuch went his way: Philip disappeared without making any mention of any group.
The only thing this men (Philip, Peter) went to preach was to tell them about Christ. They believed that Jesus is the son of God.

As simple as that; they were saved. Not even invitation to any denomination as good as that may be, they never said anything like "if you are not a member of our denomination, you will perish" or something; the early Church had slight differences but all United by the Spirit in Christ: Now, if you look closely at the differences, most of them are negligible.

Check some of my previous posts especially the ones on the life of Jesus while on Earth. I guess you missed them.

Now we are getting somewhere!

So can you please expatiate on what Jesus meant at Matthew 28:19-20 where he emphatically said "Go and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptising them in the name of the father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit [20] teaching them to observe all the things i have commanded you and look i'm with you until the end"

So if Cornelius and the Eunuch never had to keep in touch with fellow Christians after their baptism how are they going to continue receiving instructions from Jesus' GROUP?

OK Sir!

solite3:

Who is talking of praying with jws pagan religion? God forbid

Your religion has nothing to do with the truth of God's word

Maximus69:


STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!

Just a brief response will do oga!

Did Jesus appoint teachers over his congregation (followers) YES or NO!

Just a breif response will do; and when you hand me a complete copy of awake, you expect me to read it. Don't you?
No wonder people reject 'em.

Jesus appointed teachers over his church; neither through a single methodology nor a particular denomination. I find the salvation of Paul interesting.(GALATIANS1:1-17)
God has more people than you know about; Elijah thought he was the only one left: but God is the fountain of wisdom.

Romans 11:3
"Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace."

Paul is speaking he exclaimed: and this will bless you if you will hear.
1 Corinthians 14:36
"What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?"

Obviously, the answer to Paul's question is No.

Csonice1:


Just a breif response will do; and when you hand me a complete copy of awake, you expect me to read it. Don't you?
No wonder people reject 'em.

Jesus appointed teachers over his church; neither through a single methodology nor a particular denomination. I find the salvation of Paul interesting.
God more people than you know about; Elijah thought he was the only one left: but God is the fountain of wisdom.

Romans 11:3
"Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace."

Paul is speaking he exclaimed: and this will bless you if you will hear.
1 Corinthians 14:36
"What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?"

Obviously, the answer to Paul's question is No.

Sorry my guy, the awake magazines comes with a topic that if you find interesting nobody will beg you to read it, billions of people throughout the world have acknowledged it as the best magazine in the entire world!

So if you don't find it interesting we aren't forcing it on you Sir!

As for the bolded, if you agree that Jesus truly appointed teachers over his disciples, then how can we distinguish between those who appointed themselves and those appointed by Jesus?

Please try to be brief!