Danwakae:



Baba na, forget that thing, free and fair , A northern candidate will always win, we have the voting strength...but you should know that there is no free and fair election again in Nigeria ...not even in the church lols ...I'm not in support of domination , bt our leaders need to go for a round table meeting for proper zoning for fairness and equity

What we need is restructuring. Let every zone hold its own affair. Why are you almajiris scared of restructure? Do you think we care about Nigeria if we can manage our own affairs in SE/SS between brothers. We and you have nothing in common, go and chop your rotation.

Danwakae:



That was then... Mostly in 2003, where Baba Tinubu and late Pa Abraham's AD had to endorsed Baba OBJ's PDP and they lost all their states to the PDP except Lagos... With what happened in 2015 , it will never happened again, A southerner will never defeat a northerner...just watch out ...only those of you that have not travelled out of the south will argue this.

rubbish, it was southern presidency thats why obj defeated buhari easily.
2011 Buhari and Atiku couldn't defeat GEJ

The Ohanaeze should form its own party o.
Really though, Power isn't enough to solve the Igbo's problem. The should look inwards

Maduawuchukwu:
What is Ohanaeze Youth Council? People who are on the payroll of APC chieftains.

I don't get it. Is it a taboo for them to make demands of a party the region has supported and still supports since 99?

ILOVETOFUCK:
I am not Igbo but my question is why do some Yorubas, especially, have special hatred for the Igbos. Must it be because of their enterprising spirit, their doggedness, their will to aspire and achieve. Why do some pple from other tribes get panicky when the Igbos are mentioned Still yet U dnt want them to go. Nigeria fought a three year war to keep them and still hate them this much?? Pls someone should help me solve this mystery cos we see them excelling more than other tribes in other parts of the world. I love them though.

Nigeria fought a 3 year war to keep the oil. I am sure if there was no oil in the then eastern region, Ibos would have been allowed to leave at the time, conversely, if there was no Oil, the ibos wouldnt have declared Biafra. The civil war was all about oil, dont let anyone tell you otherwise. It was the ibos themselves that removed the right to referendum from the constitution when ironsi was in power briefly. They are the ones who with decree 34 created the powerful central government that everyone complains about today when Ironsi was in power, i guess they thought they would be in power forever.

I do not hate ibos, I just think they do not think before they talk and act when it comes to politics. You dont make noise and threats from a position of weakness. I have said it many times, the ibo man succeeds in business because he has a drive to be no1, that spirit is good in business but bad in personal relations and for politics because politics is a game of compromise and patience. You cannot get ahead in politics if you must always get your way. If you look at the political history of Nigeria since independence, the ibos are the only ones who if they dont get their way scatter everything for themselves and everybody. Even the North who have the numbers to dominate and can say f0ck you to everyone else know how to compromise and when to compromise. The North settled on Gowon who is a christian from the middle belt at a time of great tension, they also settled on OBJ after the dark days of Abacha, the SW for 40 years did not taste power at the centre but hell did not break loose, technically speaking the SW has not had a president that is their choice. But the ibo man always must have his way or else he brings down the whole house, which ironically makes it even harder to get what he wants because he loses trust. He then comes back even weaker acting as if nothing happened expecting people to forget what he did when things didnt go his way. This has been the the Ibo playbook since 1966.

SaintLucia:
In Fela's voice "Na Shakara Oloje" Igbo that will soon Atikulate once they see dollars. PDP knows how to use Igbo brains play "Tom and Jerry".

Are you deaf or blind? Stop talking to me

ILOVETOFUCK:
I am not Igbo but my question is why do some Yorubas, especially, have special hatred for the Igbos. Must it be because of their enterprising spirit, their doggedness, their will to aspire and achieve. Why do some pple from other tribes get panicky when the Igbos are mentioned Still yet U dnt want them to go. Nigeria fought a three year war to keep them and still hate them this much?? Pls someone should help me solve this mystery cos we see them excelling more than other tribes in other parts of the world. I love them though.

Million likes for you.

I have figured them out. They hate that we compete and win in their region. We have the upper hand in SW since 1956. They have not figured out how to remove our influence. Thats their frustration. Ndigbo own SW, truth be told.

ERockson:
Ibo Amaka. 5%

U no sabi d slang well sef. It is called 5%ter��

in that side, I trust the igbos. ngige can testify how they shocked him.
one thing with se is that if they bow not to vote for u, they won't... in as much as they are not much compared to North, but once d want to vote for u, they do it in mass.

isthatso:



Nigeria fought a 3 year war to keep the oil. I am sure if there was no oil in the then eastern region, Ibos would have been allowed to leave at the time, conversely, if there was no Oil, the ibos wouldnt have declared Biafra. The civil war was all about oil, dont let anyone tell you otherwise. It was the ibos themselves that removed the right to referendum and secession from the constitution when ironsi was in power briefly. They are the ones who with decree 34 created the powerful central government that everyone complains about today when Ironsi was in power, i guess they thought they would be in power forever.

I do not hate ibos, I just think they do not think before they talk and act when it comes to politics. You dont make noise and threats from a position of weakness. I have said it many times, the ibo man succeeds in business because he has a drive to be no1, that spirit is good in business but bad in personal relations and for politics because politics is a game of compromise and patience. You cannot get ahead in politics if you must always get your way. If you look at the political history of Nigeria since independence, the ibos are the only ones who if they dont get their way scatter everything for themselves and everybody.

Oga, secession was never in the constitution. Referendum was and it was removed by Gowon, not Ironsi.

Why are people still attacking Ohaneze for summoning courage to ask what I think they deserve, isn't that what we all have been saying? I don't see any reason for this needless attack, the Igbos deserve the PDP ticket.

AsiwajuNdigbo:


Oga, secession was never in the constitution. Referendum was and it was removed by Gowon, not Ironsi.

ironsi removed it. What is referendum about, is it not the precursor to orderly secession?

You want to hate us and still get our votes.. Igbo mumu don pass mumu level. Just sit down watch us do the politics.

omenka:
I don't get it. Is it a taboo for them to make demands of a party the region has supported and still supports since 99?

Senator Ekweremadu
Senator Abaribe
Senator Chidoka
Senator TA Orji
Senator Oduah
Senator Ekwunife

We are not short of credible and competent people so I dont kno what is PDP problem.

isthatso:


ironsi removed it. What is referendum about is it not the precursor to orderly secession?

No he did not. Secession was never in constitution abeg. Referendum was.

You can seceede without referendum and you can have referendum without seceeding.

You will die a miserable death if you are not Igbo.

post=93613694:
Excerpts.....

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that just finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
is power given to anyone? 
is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

You will die a miserable death if you are not Igbo.

post=93613694:
Excerpts.....

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that just finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
is power given to anyone? 
is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

ArmedRobber:
rubbish, it was southern presidency thats why obj defeated buhari easily.
2011 Buhari and Atiku couldn't defeat GEJ

That was then .... Alot happened in 2015... Don't argue , just wait for 2023.. those who have foresight have seen already and beating the drum of war... By next year , it will be clear to you....should the APC present a south candidate , mostly a southwestern , and the PDP present a northeasterner , forget it , The PDP will win ... I. 2019, only Dave Umahi, Ben Ayade, Abia Govs in the PDP can tell you what they did in the South East to give Baba Buhari the 25% spread sheet.. and also the Kwankwasiyya in Kana, PDP in Sokoto, Bauchi... For Baba.. check the presidential election , compare it to their state elections... Then take a case study from Edo and see if they correlate... The north was the reverse of Edo ... And that's how the north is presently ...Religion and region is a big deal in the north ... Take it or leave , but 2023 will tell... The earlier for the leaders, mostly from the south to call for a round table meeting for zoning , the better... goodnight.

AsiwajuNdigbo:


Are you deaf or blind? Stop talking to me

In Fela's voice "Na Shakara Oloje" Igbo that will soon Atikulate once they see dollars. PDP knows how to use Igbo brains play "Tom and Jerry".

AsiwajuNdigbo:


No he did not. Secession was never in constitution abeg. Referendum was.

You can seceede without referendum and you can have referendum without seceeding.

you are being pedantic. ok he removed referendum.. same difference. A referendum is the avenue by which you secede or devolve power orderly without war.......like in Scotland.

The bottom line is he removed the avenue from which people can freely determine their future and how their relationship with Nigeria if they choose to still be a part of Nigeria such that the only way any group can secede now is by force.

You just defined jealousy

ILOVETOFUCK:
I am not Igbo but my question is why do some Yorubas, especially, have special hatred for the Igbos. Must it be because of their enterprising spirit, their doggedness, their will to aspire and achieve. Why do some pple from other tribes get panicky when the Igbos are mentioned Still yet U dnt want them to go. Nigeria fought a three year war to keep them and still hate them this much?? Pls someone should help me solve this mystery cos we see them excelling more than other tribes in other parts of the world. I love them though.

Clowns.

naijadrivablog:
Where is shellsploit. Come talk

I have made my point and you have made yours.

isthatso:

whoever APC chooses will win, if APC zones it to the south, it means the Northern leaders are in support, APC will not have an ibo on its ticket. The North will not vote any party that has an Ibo on the ticket incase we have GEJ part 2.

Danwakae:



That was then .... Alot happened in 2015... Don't argue , just wait for 2023.. those who have foresight have seen already and beating the drum of war... By next year , it will be clear to you....should the APC present a south candidate , mostly a southwestern , and the PDP present a northeasterner , forget it , The PDP will win ... I. 2019, only Dave Umahi, Ben Ayade, Abia Govs in the PDP can tell you what they did in the South East to give Baba Buhari the 25% spread sheet.. and also the Kwankwasiyya in Kana, PDP in Sokoto, Bauchi... For Baba.. check the presidential election , compare it to their state elections... Then take a case study from Edo and see if they correlate... The north was the reverse of Edo ... And that's how the north is presently ...Religion and region is a big deal in the north ... Take it or leave , but 2023 will tell... The earlier for the leaders, mostly from the south to call for a round table meeting for zoning , the better... goodnight.

you re talking trash.
If you can't answer the reason why GEJ beat Atiku and Buhari 2011 why should I waste my time with your elementary political discussion.

Maduawuchukwu:
What is Ohanaeze Youth Council? People who are on the payroll of APC chieftains.

Which APC? You think APC of Nigeria cares for anything from the 5%ers?
Last last even PDP is planning distancing itself from the 5%ers.

ILOVETOFUCK:
I am not Igbo but my question is why do some Yorubas, especially, have special hatred for the Igbos. Must it be because of their enterprising spirit, their doggedness, their will to aspire and achieve. Why do some pple from other tribes get panicky when the Igbos are mentioned Still yet U dnt want them to go. Nigeria fought a three year war to keep them and still hate them this much?? Pls someone should help me solve this mystery cos we see them excelling more than other tribes in other parts of the world. I love them though.

What has Yoruba got to do with crying Ohannaeze youth association for PDP presidency? Is Yoruba people blocking them? Igbos were once boasting that Southeast is PDP & PDP is southeast. Oya field one of una na. BTW, shebi APGA is Igbo political party sef? Oya field Igbo as president & vice-presidential candidates na. I hate nonsense

ArmedRobber:
Either ways pdp's decision for 2023 they re already fvcked up

Use igbos as candidate na thorough flogging

Zone presidency to North again na severe beating.

Personally I wish pdp zone the presidential ticket to north so that they can repeat same mistake they did in 2015 after GEJ 2nd term ambition tore pdp apart.

APC got presidency on platter cos there was clamour for presidency to return to North after yaradua death.

Now there is clamour for power to return to south, I hope pdp make same mistake again

whether it would be a mistake is from your own view, I personally support PDP to zone it to the North if it's not given to the Igbos. This is because everyone understands how elections are won now and no matter what, Buhari would support anyone from the North, thus police, army, Inec and judiciary would do such candidate's bidding.

Majority of Igbos would vote for Northern candidate with Igbo VP.

AsiwajuNdigbo:


What we need is restructuring. Let every zone hold its own affair. Why are you almajiris scared of restructure? Do you think we care about Nigeria if we can manage our own affairs in SE/SS between brothers. We and you have nothing in common, go and chop your rotation.

Lols... You haven't been to the north... I am presently in Edo State , posted by my job... I am from Taraba state, I guess u r from the east, see ba, walahi, if there give u people Biafra , no doubt , the north will have to go back to agriculture, which u people will need, but your leaders will be the ones to enjoy it, and you people will be the loser ...in my state , Taraba , the Igbos are the driving force of our economy... Same to many states I. The north, and should Biafra be granted , it will ever remain the same for your people in the north again, its not a threat but a normal diplomacy for countries... As a northerner , with or without the Niger Delta oil, we the people stand to lose nothing ... It only our leaders that will be bothered , because they have been the ones stealing in cooperation with your own leaders ... So if u people want to go, good, pls go , its not by force to remain as one... The northern masses stand to lose nothing ...it may only be a threat to our northern leaders but not the people ...are we living better than those in the south ?, Are our leaders sharing the stolen public fund with we the people ... Pls if u people want to go, follow due process and go, so we can hear word...

I read an interesting article today and it was really enlightening. The igbo nation is yet to have a united front. They need that one man that can be sellable but that can only happen with lots of hand washing with other tribes. I feel if atiku goes on a promise of one term while obi goes as his vice with lots of juicy promises for other tribes, it would be a smooth ride.

The main statement of the ohaneze person there was certainly an attack on an atiku/obi ticket which so happens to be Pdp's best gameplay now. Apc's gameplay must include an osibanjo for president ticket as I have a funny feeling that a tinubu ticket would create some previously unknown bottlenecks along the line. By next year, new things would have happened to change the entire political landscape.

For now, 2023 is not the time for an igbo president but with a vice president that helps improve the country for four years, pdp's obi would be a better market to sell.

ArmedRobber:
you re talking trash.
If you can't answer the reason why GEJ beat Atiku and Buhari 2011 why should I waste my time with your elementary political discussion.

he is talking a lot of sense and I'm glad PDP is already considering zoning the ticket to North with VP to the east.