achorladey:


Another DIVERSION to keep the DENIAL going

1Corinthians 9:16 "WOE TO ANYONE if you refuse to obey Matt24:14 & Acts 5:42.

achorladey:


Perhaps Ken4Christ was following Maximus69 reasoning who stated here on nairaland that the name CHRISTIAN is a CURSED name the reason he said JWS no longer bear the name CHRISTIAN . because the new DIVINE name TRUE WORSHIPPERS are to be as provided in 1931 is JW

There are so many ways to segregate ONESELF. People do so by BASTARDIZATION of a particular name to raise their own COINED name up and above

achorladey:



Mr Haeck economizes the truth that is how denial starts

Janosky:


(*2)
‘Shunning’

Jehovah’s Witnesses use shunning as a tactic to keep members from being disloyal to the group, he claims. “It’s worse than just being excluded,” Haeck told Het Nieuwsblad. “From the highest levels of the organisation comes the order that no one is allowed to talk to you, not even your own family. They declare that this person must be avoided ”

(*2)Bros, Is the order to excommunicate from the holy scriptures?
Mr Haeck economizes the truth.
"Het Nieuwsblad" Newspaper reported 'he claims'

The Bible instructions @ 1 Corinthians5:11-13 and 2 Thess3:6 is in your Bible.
but Mr Haeck, has already "Swindled" you with a FALSE claim.
Please console yourself, you are allowed.

Ken4Christ:


I maintain my stand just to help a few people who have been deceived and brainwashed by Jehovah Witness doctrines. They are anti Christ. Every doctrine of their opposes the truth that the gospel brought. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light and their judgment is certain. For instance;

1. The Bible teaches that salvation is by grace through faith but the Jehovah Witness teaches you earn your salvation by good works. Good works is the product of salvation and not the requirement of salvation.
2. "The Bible teaches that Jesus died and rose again. The Jehovah Witness teaches that Jesus didn't resurrect bodily. Then what happened to the body of Christ? They can't explain. At a time they assert that God may have dissolved the body with chemical.
3. The Bible teaches that Jesus is coming back to take the faithful Saints home, the Jehovah Witness teaches that Jesus already has come back.
4. The Bible says that Jesus died on the cross, they teach he died on a tree.
5. The Bible teaches on the existence of a place of torment known as hell, they teach hell is just the ordinary grave. This is wickedness to deny the truth of God's word which is stated so clearly in his word.
6. The Bible teaches that all Saints in Christ are citizens of heaven, the Jehovah Witness teaches that only 144,000 will make heaven. What a demonic doctrine.
7. The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is a person, the third person of the God head, they teach that the Holy Spirit is a wind and a force.
8. The Bible teaches that God will judge us by our works here on earth, they teach that God will judge us by our works in the resurrection during the judgment period which they assert will last for 1,000 years. So, you can do whatever you want on earth right now. The moment you die, all your sins are dead also. They misquote Apostle Paul when he said he that is dead is free from sin. No wonder they live ungodly lives.
10. The Bible teaches that when Christ comes back, all eyes shall see him, they teach otherwise. They said we will only feel his presence.

I could go on and on. They oppose everything that is truth and turn people away from God. They are raising disciples for the very hell they don't believe exist. They are the reason why so many are going to hell on a daily basis.

Please, come out from amongst them. They are indeed wolves in sheep's clothing. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light. I weep for all that have been held captives by their false teachings.

DappaD:


Don't you think you'll make a lot of sense if you attach Scriptures to every point you supposedly make rather than repeating garbage your pastors have taught you which have no basis in the scriptures?

rottennaija:


And yet you many who truthfully believed in him not preaching. I have cited many examples. It can be clearly seen in the books published by your religion that without each and everyone participating in the preaching, there is no everlasting life for such a person. Clearly stated.

However, you have failed to show anywhere in the bible where Jesus, the apostles made such a statement. I asked you, Can you please point to the scriptures where either the apostle Paul, Peter, James, anyone, even Jesus said to either his disciples or to the congregation or like those written to the congregations in revelation that they must go door to door or lose everlasting life?

You clearly cannot. Because it is not there in the bible.

In the other side, are you no claiming that the likes of Jesus, the apostles, disciples that didn't teach such a message to their followers even while they were on earth were "they are workers of iniquity"?

You spoke of equity. I know what it means. But the fact of the matter is, EQUITY in this CASE IN THIS MATTER. The fact of the case is, what did Jesus command? What did he teach? What did he expect from his disciples? What did he say is paramount and most of all, what is that requirement to enter God's kingdom. What were the scriptural examples we see?

These are the fact of the issue I have brought forward, which you clearly have no response. But instead you skirt about the issue with a circular reasoning.

Speaking about equity, have you seen this scriptures before on what Jesus did?
Ephesians 4:11 He is the one who gave these gifts to the church: the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, and the pastors and teachers.

In a family, any family, everyone does not have the same task, talent or ability. This is the fact of creation. Among the nations of Israel, not all were priest, not all were levite, not all were singers, no all were elders (older men), not all were Kings and not all served in the court.

Not all true Christians were to be preaching. Some were given as apostles, some evangelist, others pastors and teachers. But all serve to the edification of the body of Christ (the church or congregation). Verse 12 says, "Their responsibility is to equip God's people to do his work and build up the church, the body of Christ"

The church of christ (congregation) is compared to the human body. Not all part performs the same function. The hand has it task and so does the leg. At times, the hand can do what the leg can and vice versa. But all work together to build the body. The same is true of the Christian spiritual body. All cannot perform all task. Below is another example.

James 3:1 Dear brothers and sisters, not many of you should become teachers in the church, for we who teach will be judged by God with greater strictness.

While there is admonition to reach out for more service in God's work, not everyone can do every work.

This is why you see the simplicity in the bible. While Jesus commanded his disciple to preach, it was evident that not all did the same preaching because they understood the command more than you who exist 2000 years after. This was also why you couldn't provide evidence where the apostle Paul or anyone was pushing the congregation into the field to preach. That's because they knew that
1. It was not a yardstick for everlasting life
2. Not all were to be preaching just like teaching or other works
3. All had different gift
4. All worked together with their different gift and ministries to build up the church, christ body.

DappaD:


Don't you think you'll make a lot of sense if you attach Scriptures to every point you supposedly make rather than repeating garbage your pastors have taught you which have no basis in the scriptures?

Ken4Christ:


Even if I do, you will still not believe because you people are possessed with the spirit of unbelief.

Just one question for you, since you don't believe that Jesus died bodily, tell me what happened to the body of Jesus with scriptures. Don't digress. If you are able to answer me, maybe I will think about joining you. If you can't, please run away from that group which is as good as a cult.

KNOWMORE56:



No wahala, more are coming, you go defend sotey you go tire and retire

No wahala.

The Bible instructions # 1 Corinthians5:11-13 and 2 Thess3:6 is in your Bible.
JWs neither tire nor retire from defending the Bible such as 2Thess3:6 and 1 Cor 5:11-13, which KNOWMORE56 is kicking against

Ken4Christ:


Even if I do, you will still not believe because you people are possessed with the spirit of unbelief.

Just one question for you, since you don't believe that Jesus died bodily, tell me what happened to the body of Jesus with scriptures.

Don't digress. [s]If you are able to answer me, maybe I will think about joining you. [/s] If you can't, please run away from that group which is as good as a cult.

DappaD:

But you can't, because your spurious claims are found nowhere in the Bible.


And where did I or any other JW claim that Jesus didn't die with a fleshly body?

AkinwaleJJ:


I never noticed that in his comment but why are they so agitated and presumptuous about JWs?

Janosky:



JWs will emerge victorious.
Those people contravene the Scriptural injunction and we're disciplined by Jehovah's Organization but they were not humble to amend their ways.

Expel the Immoral Brother
…10I was not including the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing you not to associate with anyone who claims to be a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a verbal abuser, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. 12What business of mine is it to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?…


2 Thessalonians 3:6
Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to keep away from any brother who leads an undisciplined life that is not in keeping with the tradition you received from us."

2 Thessalonians 3:6 and 1Corinthians Do not associate with unrepentant brothers who stopped serving Jehovah God. Shun them.

I challenge the OP to show us where Jesus hosted Judas Iscariot after his rebellion.

Or where Peter dined with Ananias and Saphira after their 419

DappaD:

But you can't, because your spurious claims are found nowhere in the Bible.


And where did I or any other JW claim that Jesus didn't die with a fleshly body?

Olofin2:



You are a fool. 2nd Thess 3:6 you quoted is not the same in my Bible. You wrote your own Bible calling it Bible. Asiwere

Ken4Christ:


You claim he didn't resurrect bodily. I ask again, what happened to the body because his tomb was empty?

DappaD:


“The naive/inexperienced person believes every word ,But the shrewd one ponders each step.”
Proverbs 14:15

They feel okay and satisfied with anything they hear about Jehovah's Witnesses without considering the facts.

AkinwaleJJ:


But why?

DappaD:


Na them sabi

Olofin2:



You are a fool. 2nd Thess 3:6 you quoted is not the same in my Bible. You wrote your own Bible calling it Bible. Asiwere

Ken4Christ:


I maintain my stand just to help a few people who have been deceived and brainwashed by Jehovah Witness doctrines. They are anti Christ. Every doctrine of their opposes the truth that the gospel brought. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light and their judgment is certain. For instance;

1. The Bible teaches that salvation is by grace through faith but the Jehovah Witness teaches you earn your salvation by good works. Good works is the product of salvation and not the requirement of salvation.
2. "The Bible teaches that Jesus died and rose again. The Jehovah Witness teaches that Jesus didn't resurrect bodily. Then what happened to the body of Christ? They can't explain. At a time they assert that God may have dissolved the body with chemical.
3. The Bible teaches that Jesus is coming back to take the faithful Saints home, the Jehovah Witness teaches that Jesus already has come back.
4. The Bible says that Jesus died on the cross, they teach he died on a tree.
5. The Bible teaches on the existence of a place of torment known as hell, they teach hell is just the ordinary grave. This is wickedness to deny the truth of God's word which is stated so clearly in his word.
6. The Bible teaches that all Saints in Christ are citizens of heaven, the Jehovah Witness teaches that only 144,000 will make heaven. What a demonic doctrine.
7. The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is a person, the third person of the God head, they teach that the Holy Spirit is a wind and a force.
8. The Bible teaches that God will judge us by our works here on earth, they teach that God will judge us by our works in the resurrection during the judgment period which they assert will last for 1,000 years. So, you can do whatever you want on earth right now. The moment you die, all your sins are dead also. They misquote Apostle Paul when he said he that is dead is free from sin. No wonder they live ungodly lives.
10. The Bible teaches that when Christ comes back, all eyes shall see him, they teach otherwise. They said we will only feel his presence.

I could go on and on. They oppose everything that is truth and turn people away from God. They are raising disciples for the very hell they don't believe exist. They are the reason why so many are going to hell on a daily basis.

Please, come out from amongst them. They are indeed wolves in sheep's clothing. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light. I weep for all that have been held captives by their false teachings.

Janosky:

1Corinthians 9:16 "WOE TO ANYONE if you refuse to obey Matt24:14 & Acts 5:42.

DappaD:


“The naive/inexperienced person believes every word ,But the shrewd one ponders each step.”
Proverbs 14:15

They feel okay and satisfied with anything they hear about Jehovah's Witnesses without considering the facts.

achorladey:


That's why when another person came online and said SLANDER. I state how can it be a SLANDER when there own member came online to say the name CHRISTIAN is CURSED and BASTARDIZE and that JEHOVAH gave another divine name in 1931. Is that not a case of not wanting to be called CHRISTIANS?

achorladey:



1 Corinthians 9:16 Yet preaching the Good News is not something I can boast about. I am compelled by God to do it. How terrible for me if I didn’t preach the Good News!

See as you replace it with ANYONE

You are still keeping to your DIVERSION and DENIAL

Janosky:


1 Corinthians 11:1, You are to imitate me as I imitate Christ.

1 Corinthians 9:16
WOE TO ANYONE if you refuse to obey
Matt 24:14 and Acts 5:42.

Achorladey & Rott Wailer are confirmed Enemies of Jesus Christ.

Ken4Christ:


They certainly won't want to be called Christians because they are not followers of Christ. Every teachings of theirs attempts to demean Christ. They deny his bodily resurrection when Jesus said, destroy this Temple and I will raise it in three days. So, they said Jesus couldn't raise his body.

This is why I call them anti Christ. They oppose every truth revealed in the Bible.

They preach another gospel, not the gospel of Christ. A Jehovah Witness will never tell you to accept Jesus as your Lord and personal Saviour. Jesus is not the focus of their gospel.

So, they pretend to be doing the work of God but they are actually winning disciples for the devil who will end up in burning flames. These are those that Apostle Paul refers to agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light.

They are so full of pride that they can't humble themselves to accept they are wrong. They just can't imagine how they can be a part of the Christian community they have condemned all these years. They are indeed the most difficult sect to win to Christ. They think they are right but they are totally wrong.

Ken4 ALWAYS sounds like a broken record.
Spurious claims everywhere.

AkinwaleJJ:


Paul could say this for two reasons:-
1) He has been zealous for the Jewish traditions [Gala 1:14] believing he was doing so for the God of Abraham, this means that is what he cherished most in his life. So after his encounter with the Christ (who spoke to him from heaven) Paul feels indebted to Jesus and importantly to the God of Israel because he's been persecuting those who are doing the right thing he supposed to do.
2) When he finally realized that Christians are the true worshipers of the God of Abraham, and as someone who always wanted to be a frontier in the worship of the true God he feels whatever he's doing is not enough because he should have started long before now. 2Corint 11:22-23

Surely we should all feel like partaking in the works of the Lord but God doesn't compare our individual disposition towards his work, one thing we must bear in mind is "there is no room for none participants of the preaching and teaching work" [Matt 25:24-30] each of us need to contribute his/her quota be it little or much! 2Corin 9:7

Janosky:

My Brother, do you know the duo of Rott Wailer and Achorladey were raised by JW parents ?
They both turned themselves to "Sons of disobedience" opposing the truth Jehovah taught his son, Jesus Christ (John 15:15 & 7:16)

Janosky:


Ken4 ALWAYS sounds like a broken record.
Spurious claims everywhere.


*Luke 17:28-30
It was the same in the days of Lot: People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building.
29
"But on the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.
30It will be just like that on the day the Son of Man is revealed"

Luke 17:28-30 ,2 Thess 1:7-9 "Evildoers will be DESTROYED on that day Jesus is revealed"

My Question for Ken4:
Bros, do you accept this truth @ Luke 17:28-30 spoken by Jesus Christ?