AkinwaleJJ:


Please how do you make public confession of your faith without preaching?

I think public mean everyone around you, so how do you make it without preaching?
Remember Paul attached it to salvation! Romans 10:10

Ok. Let me keep it simple for you to understand. It might sound strange, but it this simple. Ro 10:8-10 is speaking about baptism. The public declaration that Jesus is Lord, messiah and confession of one's faith in his ransom. That's the public declaration before one gets baptised (similar to baptism questions you answer).

MaxInDHouse:


He has given you the Watchtower interpretation of the verses nah!

So refute it by presenting a better and meaningful Interpretation!

I know that is what he has done. I already responded by making it simple and plain.

rottennaija:


Ok. Let me keep it simple for you to understand. It might sound strange, but it this simple. Ro 10:8-10 is speaking about baptism. The public declaration that Jesus is Lord, messiah and confession of one's faith in his ransom. That's the public declaration before one gets baptised (similar to baptism questions you answer).

rottennaija:


I know that is what he has done. I already responded by making it simple and plain.

Even demons confess Jesus Christ with their mouth, Rott Wailer says demons done baptize

Janosky:


Even demons confess Jesus Christ with their mouth, Rott Wailer says demons done baptize

Irrespective of whether demons confess Jesus with their mouth or nose. That's besides the point. The point is, Ro 10:8-10 is speaking of baptism. If your religion as has not told you that simple clear Bible truth, ask yourself, can a religion that teaches falsehood be true?

If your answer is No, as it should be. Then, my dear, follow the admonition in Re 18:4. It says, "Come away from her, my people. Do not take part in her sins, or you will be punished with her.

rottennaija:


Ok. Let me keep it simple for you to understand. It might sound strange, but it this simple. Ro 10:8-10 is speaking about baptism. The public declaration that Jesus is Lord, messiah and confession of one's faith in his ransom. That's the public declaration before one gets baptised (similar to baptism questions you answer).

Even Judas iscariot is saved, according to Rott Wailer
Oh Rott Wailer

Ken4Christ:


It's a true life story. He is seen in hell and Jesus told the person that so many are coming to hell on account of his false teachings. If you want, I can post the full story here. The Jehovah Witness sent assassins to kill him after he revealed what he saw. He is currently going from city to city sharing his testimony to those who cares to listen. He who has hear, let him hear.

Story for the dustbin .
Sinners inside Christendom's hellfire torture chamber do not repent inside there.
Bros, STOP this mockery of yourself and your FALSE teaching

Ken4Christ:


God is not father Abraham. God chose to have mercy on whom he wants to have mercy. So many have gone to hell and come back on account of the mercy of God.

Jonah died and his soul went to hell. It was from hell he cried out for mercy and God had mercy on him. If God could have mercy on Jonah, he can have mercy on anyone.

Jonah 2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.

Jonah was in the grave,belly of the fish was to be his grave until Jonah cried to Yahweh,his God to rescue him.
All your fellow triune idol worshippers have given genuine evidences (see screenshots) you are LYING on this thread.

DappaD:


Oh wow.
So why is that Jesus' parting words to all his disciples was the commission to always be preaching and teaching about all he commanded them? (Matthew 28:19,20; Acts 1:8 )

Sir, Jehovah God was likened to a cultivator and Jesus likened himself to a vine.—John 15:1
His disciples were to be branches.
Jehovah God(the cultivator) will take away from the vine(Jesus), any branch(any disciple) not “bearing fruit”(preaching the goodnews of God's Kingdom).(John 15:2,8 )
The activity that denotes the bearing of this fruit is the preaching of the goodnews of God's Kingdom. (Matthew 24:14)
Granted, life everlasting will not result from any amount of works because it's a gift given to all Jesus' disciples through the undeserved kindness of God(Romans 6:23) BUT saying that you will not contribute to the preaching work one way or another is just plain arrogance because you must speak to somebody and invite such one to come and partake of this wonderful gift of everlasting life.
Otherwise, when you prove that you have no regard for this gift, Jehovah God, the cultivator, will remove or take away such ones from the vine, which is Jesus Christ, the head of the congregation.(Ephesians 5:23, Colossians 1:18)

So Mr M.yer, if one professes to love Jehovah God and Jesus, he will do ALL he is commanded to do. (John 15:10, 1John 5:3)

Can you explain why the 5 fold ministries were distinguished then? Some Evangelists, Pastors, Prophets, Teachers and Apostles.

Are you operating in all 5 ministries? If not, why do you expect everyone to be evangelists?

Janosky:

Even Judas iscariot is saved, according to Rott Wailer
Oh Rott Wailer

It must really be easy for you to be attacking a straw man. Once in a while, be man enough to attack something real.

Myer:
Can you explain why the 5 fold ministries were distinguished then? Some Evangelists, Pastors, Prophets, Teachers and Apostles.
Are you operating in all 5 ministries? If not, why do you expect everyone to be evangelists?

From we can draw from Ephesians 4:8,11-12, when Christ ascended to heaven, the holy spirit came upon his disciples and assigned
some of them prophets, some apostles, some evangelizers, some shepherds and some teachers. All of them in one way or another preached about the good news of God's Kingdom and built up the Christian congregation.
There were territories where the good news hadn't been preached yet, so the evanglizers were assigned to preach and teach extensively in those areas and when new disciples were made, the shepherds(the elders) and the teachers took over from there to guide such ones to spiritual maturity.
It's just the usual “Paul planted, Apollos watered” mechanism.—1Corinthians 3:6
That's to show that all of Jesus' disciples are to PREACH and TEACH. (Matthew 28:19,20)
Today, holy spirit no longer appoints Christian men to be prophets because those roles and gifts were done away after the first century. [1Corinthians 13:8]

rottennaija:


Ok. Let me keep it simple for you to understand. It might sound strange, but it this simple. Ro 10:8-10 is speaking about baptism. The public declaration that Jesus is Lord, messiah and confession of one's faith in his ransom. That's the public declaration before one gets baptised (similar to baptism questions you answer).

Do you think so?

Because Paul went further to explain what he meant o!
At Romans 10:13-15 Paul made it clear that before people can call on the name of Jehovah for salvation, preaching and teaching must come first, and nobody can say he is left out if truthfully he is part of the Christian congregation.
Everyone who believe in Christ must go out to preach and teach in Jesus' name!
Though you may object to this but it's the bitter truth that anyone who wants to be saved must swallow!

Myer:


Can you explain why the 5 fold ministries were distinguished then? Some Evangelists, Pastors, Prophets, Teachers and Apostles.

Are you operating in all 5 ministries? If not, why do you expect everyone to be evangelists?

It's because you're not interested in the truth!

Evangelist refers to all members of the Christian congregation, you must take part in the evangelizing no matter who you are, Pastors means those taking the lead in each congregation, Prophets are those helping people to understand the prophetic messenges in God's word, Teachers are those teaching within the congregation, Apostles are those whose orders all members of the congregation globally must obey!
Jehovah's Witnesses have all of these in their group but they don't attach the titles to names of those taking the offices.

Janosky:

Jonah was in the grave,belly of the fish was to be his grave until Jonah cried to Yahweh,his God to rescue him.
All your fellow triune idol worshippers have given genuine evidences (see screenshots) you are LYING on this thread.

You are contradicting yourself. You said the dead knows nothing and is unconscious. So, how come the unconscious dead was able to cry?

Janosky:


Story for the dustbin .
Sinners inside Christendom's hellfire torture chamber do not repent inside there.
Bros, STOP this mockery of yourself and your FALSE teaching

OK. You will believe when you get there but it will be too late. Roast in pieces in advance.

haddeylium:



ken4christ (
kill who?
Move this to the joke section. you'll be shocked how comedic you sound...
what's the name of your church again jare?

You will not believe until you land there. Thomas Didymus.

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How could a lifeless Jonah have cried out from the fish belly when you say that the dead don't know anything? You see your life. I know you can't answer this question.

If you said he cried out from the fish belly, it means that the dead are conscious which contradicts your behalf.

So, you are stucked.

AkinwaleJJ:


Do you think so?

Because Paul went further to explain what he meant o!
At Romans 10:13-15 Paul made it clear that before people can call on the name of Jehovah for salvation, preaching and teaching must come first, and nobody can say he is left out if truthfully he is part of the Christian congregation.
Everyone who believe in Christ must go out to preach and teach in Jesus' name!
Though you may object to this but it's the bitter truth that anyone who wants to be saved must swallow!

Actually, you should take the initiative sometimes to read bible commentaries and other references works. You cannot never tell what you might digup.

In Ro 10:13, Watchtower insert the name Jehovah there instead of Jesus. (Another nonsense do they.) What is there is the Lord Jesus because its the name of Jesus that the apostle Paul was speaking about whose name should be called to be save. The whole context of Ro 10, Paul is speaking of Jesus.

rottennaija:


Actually, you should take the initiative sometimes to read bible commentaries and other references works. You cannot never tell what you might digup.

In Ro 10:13, Watchtower insert the name Jehovah there instead of Jesus. (Another nonsense do they.) What is there is the Lord Jesus because its the name of Jesus that the apostle Paul was speaking about whose name should be called to be save. The whole context of Ro 10, Paul is speaking of Jesus.

Psalms 110:1 David said
"Jehovah said to my Lord" NWT
"The LORD said to my Lord" KJV

This means anytime quotations is brought from the OT where LORD appears the text is talking about the divine name JEHOVAH!

So when Paul quoted the words of Prophet Joel at Joel 2:32, is it the LORD or Lord that appeared in your KJV?

Ken4Christ:


How could a lifeless Jonah have cried out from the fish belly when you say that the dead don't know anything? You see your life. I know you can't answer this question.

If you said he cried out from the fish belly, it means that the dead are conscious which contradicts your behalf.

So, you are stucked.

check my response above.

Put simply, what's the definition of Sheol(translated as hell in kjv) in the Bible?

While you are at it...show me where Hellfire is mentioned!

Good evening

AkinwaleJJ:


Psalms 110:1 David said
"Jehovah said to my Lord" NWT
"The LORD said to my Lord" KJV

This means anytime quotations is brought from the OT where LORD appears the text is talking about the divine name JEHOVAH!

So when Paul quoted the words of Prophet Joel at Joel 2:32, is it the LORD or Lord that appeared in your KJV?

He's busy with his dancing around inside the mud thinking he can do any against what God has ordained!

Ordinary Joel's prophesy that Paul echoed he doesn't even know!

AkinwaleJJ:


Psalms 110:1 David said
"Jehovah said to my Lord" NWT
"The LORD said to my Lord" KJV

This means anytime quotations is brought from the OT where LORD appears the text is talking about the divine name JEHOVAH!

So when Paul quoted the words of Prophet Joel at Joel 2:32, is it the LORD or Lord that appeared in your KJV?

smh
Spare a few minutes of your time and go through the screenshot below. I believe you will be enlightened.

rottennaija:


smh
Spare a few minutes of your time and go through the screenshot below. I believe you will be enlightened.

I'm not the type that easily loose focus of the point of discussion, so i will take this as a diversion or digression from the point you raised. Let's take it one step at a time, just tell me one on one, did the KJV render Jehovah and Jesus differently in the OT?
Between Jehovah and Jesus, whose name was Joel referring to @ Joel 2:32?
Did Paul quote Joel or not?

Ken4Christ:


You are contradicting yourself. You said the dead knows nothing and is unconscious. So, how come the unconscious dead was able to cry?

I did not CONTRADICT anything,
Bros Read again this BOLDED portion below
Jonah was in the grave (so to speak),belly of the fish was to be his grave until Jonah cried to Yahweh,his God to rescue him.

(the BOLDED (lfrom my previous post).

AkinwaleJJ:


I'm not the type that easily loose focus of the point of discussion, so i will take this as a diversion or digression from the point you raised. Let's take it one step at a time, just tell me one on one, did the KJV render Jehovah and Jesus differently in the OT?
Between Jehovah and Jesus, whose name was Joel referring to @ Joel 2:32?
Did Paul quote Joel or not?

Did you read?

Janosky:


I did not CONTRADICT anything,
Bros Read again this BOLDED portion below
Jonah was in the grave (so to speak),belly of the fish was to be his grave until Jonah cried to Yahweh,his God to rescue him.

(the BOLDED (lfrom my previous post).

You didn't answer my question. The dead are not conscious according to your belief. So how could he have cried when the dead knows nothing.

Let me give you the answer. The soul doesn't die. The soul went to hell and cried out because of the affliction. God heard the cry and he was able to re unite with his lifeless body.

Pride will not allow you to admit this truth openly but deep within you know it's the truth.

Jonah couldn't have ended up in the fish belly. His narration reveals things that couldn't have happened in the fish belly.

He said;

Jonah 2:5-6
5 The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.

6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

Were there mountains in the fish belly? Were there bars in the fish belly. Just admit you have learnt something new and shame the devil for keeping you in gross ignorance all these years.

haddeylium:

check my response above.

Put simply, what's the definition of Sheol(translated as hell in kjv) in the Bible?

While you are at it...show me where Hellfire is mentioned!

Good evening

It isn't necessary to put fire each time hell is mentioned because it is implied. It is common sense that in this context, it couldn't be the common grave because he was never buried.

Besides, in the grave the bodies are lifeless. They can't speak. But in hell, the souls are conscious. So they can speak.

Jonah acknowledged he was under affliction, hence the cry confirming he was tormented.

Jonah 2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine AFFLICTION unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.

There is no affliction in the physical grave. So the affliction he experienced points to the reality of the torment in hell.

AkinwaleJJ:


Psalms 110:1 David said
"Jehovah said to my Lord" NWT
"The LORD said to my Lord" KJV

This means anytime quotations is brought from the OT where LORD appears the text is talking about the divine name JEHOVAH!

So when Paul quoted the words of Prophet Joel at Joel 2:32, is it the LORD or Lord that appeared in your KJV?

Following from your formula above,

1 Peter 2:3 provided you have tasted* that the Lord is kind.......NWT


Psalms 34:8 Taste and see that Jehovah is good;(i) Happy is the man who takes refuge in him.....NWT

The reference (i)in front of good lead straight to 1 Peter 2:3 where as in 1 Peter 2:3 no reference lead us back to Psalms 34:8. That is by the way.

The QUESTION is according to your FORMULA below.....

This means anytime quotations is brought from the OT where LORD appears the text is talking about the divine name JEHOVAH!

why is JEHOVAH missing in 1 Peter 2:3 since it's a quote from Psalms 34:8?

1 Peter 2:3 and the surrounding text is talking about who?

AkinwaleJJ:


I'm not the type that easily loose focus of the point of discussion, so i will take this as a diversion or digression from the point you raised. Let's take it one step at a time, just tell me one on one, did the KJV render Jehovah and Jesus differently in the OT?
Between Jehovah and Jesus, whose name was Joel referring to @ Joel 2:32?
Did Paul quote Joel or not?

Leave the Bolded part out of the discussion. If indeed that is the case, the title of the thread is far DIFFERENT from where the discussion his at the moment. In essence the focus Lost long time ago. Go back and check the beginning of the thread and see who and what brought it this far.

After that attend to the below....

Following from the formula above,

1 Peter 2:3 provided you have tasted* that the Lord is kind.......NWT


Psalms 34:8 Taste and see that Jehovah is good;(i) Happy is the man who takes refuge in him.....NWT

The reference (i)in front of good lead straight to 1 Peter 2:3 where as in 1 Peter 2:3 no reference lead us back to Psalms 34:8. That is by the way.

The QUESTION is according to your FORMULA below.....

This means anytime quotations is brought from the OT where LORD appears the text is talking about the divine name JEHOVAH!

why is JEHOVAH missing in 1 Peter 2:3 since it's a quote from Psalms 34:8?

1 Peter 2:3 and the surrounding text is talking about who?

Ken4Christ:


Enjoy your journey to hell. Your founder was recently seen under severe punishment by someone who experienced hell and came back. You will join him soon.

Excursion to hellfire
I'll like to use this medium to thank Jehovah God for using his servant to save me from this wicked lies I once believed...

Ken4Christ:


It's a true life story. He is seen in hell and Jesus told the person that so many are coming to hell on account of his false teachings. If you want, I can post the full story here. The Jehovah Witness sent assassins to kill him after he revealed what he saw. He is currently going from city to city sharing his testimony to those who cares to listen. He who has hear, let him hear.

Guy no dey believe everything you hear

sagieramos:


Guy no dey believe everything you hear

Ahhh
That one na lost cause o

rottennaija:

Did you read?

I'm a mother, advanced in age, so if you're on chat with me you should try not to digress from the main point. You're not answering the above questions on KJV's rendering of the divine name as LORD which has led most readers to a wrong conclusion and confusion on quotations having to do with Jehovah and Jesus differently, it's ok let's leave it at that!