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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Overgrownbaby: 3:41am On Oct 09, 2020
In my next life Chukwu I want to be onye Igbo .. the Igbo apprenticeship is based on patience and humility , if you serve your master well you learn a lot from him , if e easy other tribes will run it but it’s not , everywhere you see an Igbo man he is calculating or making moves to change his condition or upgrade , when other tribes are busy OWAMBE-ING, umuigbo are making moves .. 1+1= 2 thousand naira and 2+2=4 million naira , no be so umunnem?

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Racoon(m): 3:44am On Oct 09, 2020
We dont shout it but they refused to acknowledge it that the average Igbo man is highly enterprising though we agree some in the worst crimes one can ever think about

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Newbreed2018: 4:56am On Oct 09, 2020
Umu Chukwu Goziri Agozi.

IGBO AMAKA!

Biko, nyetu nu Ndi ofe mmanu ofe oha anyi ka fa ratu.
Ndi akpiri ogologo!

See them begging for igbo oha soup at the detriment of their liquid and hydraulic soup grin

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Cjrane2: 5:21am On Oct 09, 2020
slivertongue:
Her opinion.


but isn't she right about the etnnic centric nature of their apprenticeship system

If Igbos take a 10 year old Fulani boy to sleep in their shop and serve them as a houseboy for 7 or 8 years, and ONLY paid at the end of 8 years (based on the amount the master wants to give and not anything mandatory), Igbos will be called the worst child abusers and exploiters of Fulani labor in the world.

The ONLY reason this Aisha thinks it's easy to serve someone without pay or promise of a fixed amount of money at the end of 8 years service is that those who have chosen to humbly serve someone for 8 years without pay are fellow Igbos. Who you in any case see their success after 20 years of toil, without people like Aisha looking back to see what they suffered in the past 19 years!

Unlike Igbo business men that empower those that served them, the Fulani herders that rear cattle for rich Fulani men for 20 years aren't even rewarded with even 2 cows to start their own cattle herd. They are entrapped as slaves forever to rear cattle for rich Fulanis without any empowerment to start their own business.

These are some of the reasons Nigeria must break up because the people are so different in mindset and so suspicious of eachother.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by femi4: 5:25am On Oct 09, 2020
That's the truth. The apprenticeship system must be done away with
Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Nobody: 6:15am On Oct 09, 2020
I wish I were born into a business family.

I will easily have become a billionaire at 30.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Emotionss: 6:30am On Oct 09, 2020
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Cjrane2:


If Igbos take a 10 year old Fulani boy to sleep in their shop and serve them as a houseboy for 7 or 8 years, and ONLY paid at the end of 8 years (based on the amount the master wants to give and not anything mandatory), Igbos will be called the worst child abusers and exploiters of Fulani labor in the world.

The ONLY reason this Aisha thinks it's easy to serve someone without pay or promise of a fixed amount of money at the end of 8 years service is that those who have chosen to humbly serve someone for 8 years without pay are fellow Igbos. Who you in any case see their success after 20 years of toil, without people like Aisha looking back to see what they suffered in the past 19 years!

Unlike Igbo business men that empower those that served them, the Fulani herders that rear cattle for rich Fulani men for 20 years aren't even rewarded with even 2 cows to start their own cattle herd. They are entrapped as slaves forever to rear cattle for rich Fulanis without any empowerment to start their own business.

These are some of the reasons Nigeria must break up because the people are so different in mindset and so suspicious of eachother.

Unfortunately most of the new generation ibo youths are beginning to abandon this old but successful tradition.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by awgumayor: 6:34am On Oct 09, 2020
Our 2x2 shops has taken us to "multi-national" Twitter. Hmmmm!
" first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
Igbos are wonderful people I'm proud to be one.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by joyandfaith: 6:40am On Oct 09, 2020
kingi777:
If that other tribe is taken to learn apprenticeship, after 1 to 2 months; his parents will start complaining that their son's oga has not given them money or food. Before you know it, it would turn to this Igbo man is using our son; Igbo men are greedy; he doesn't even allow our son to visit us. That patience to endure to learn the rudiments of the business for 5 to 7 years is hardly found unlike that Igbo boy that would persevere believing that one day ego better.

you sum it all. most people from other tribes want instant gratification, no perseverance. they cannot serve masters for 5 to 10 years with nothing to show for it. no gain without pain.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by ahiboilandgas: 6:40am On Oct 09, 2020
cbrezy:
Nigerian activist, Aisha Yesufu has stirred up a debate on Twitter after sharing her opinion that the Igbo apprenticeship system have contributed to why many people from other tribes resent Igbos.

It is given that the age long Igbo apprenticeship system has produced a lot of multimillionaires of Igbo extraction to the wonder of many from other tribes.

The Igbo apprenticeship system allows a businessman take a young person to learn about his business and eventually get settled (given start-up capital) after an agreed period of time, which usually lasts between 5 to 7 years. During the service period, the younger person (servant) serves the businessman (master) while learning the business.

The Igbos have used the system to build themselves and relatives into renowned business men and women even where apprentices have little, or no formal education.

A Twitter user had said: “The Igbo’s apprenticeship program is the only ‘MBA’ class in the world that teaches the real intricacies of running a business, the practical application of SWOT and PESTEL analysis. And when you graduate, they’ll give you seed capital to start the business. A system that works.”
In replying the tweet, Aisha Yesufu pointed out that “The Igbo apprenticeship is an amazing system and the reason Igbos are great in business.”

However, she went on to say that “Everything has it’s advantage and disadvantage and that same system has also portrayed Igbos as clannish people who only employ their own people and never assimilate”

Her tweets opened up a debate as she went on to state that the apprenticeship system have contributed to Igbos been resented the same way Jews are resented.

She went on; “These are my opinions and thoughts over the years and I might be completely wrong but this is how I see it.

“There is a need to take a deliberate look at the Igbo apprenticeship system & begin to look at ways of inclusion. It can start with 5% inclusion of others. When you always go to your village to bring those that will work for you how do you expect the people where you are to feel?

“Just like the Jews, Igbos are resented & I have always wondered why? Is it because they are successful and can achieve anything from nothing? Is it the resilience? I concluded it is because it seems no matter how long they stay with you or you with them you are never one in biz

“A situation where as a business person you only employ your people via the apprenticeship model & no matter how long you stay in a place you never employ the indigenes there except to load and off load. there will be resentment. More if it is not one off experience but the norm

“The Jews too have that trait. Family businesses. Helping each other grow in business and capacity to gang up(if na one naira na one naira) on business issues are common traits shared by both Igbos and Jews. The others feel like outsiders not allowed to share in the goodness

“Systems are to be looked at and upgraded from time to time. It is also important to look at how things are perceived by others. You don’t have to change but just know this is how this action is seen by others

“In all the riots I witnessed as a child, I always say it is more economical than religion. Host community usually think it is the others that kept them impoverished. They feel those monies would have been theirs if these people weren’t there. People don’t blame their lazy selves.
she doesn't know any thing.....mr Kalu has trained several hausa boys and set them up ....in kano i know him personally .....

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by joyandfaith: 6:42am On Oct 09, 2020
RonaldoVido:
I wish I were born into a business family.

I will easily have become a billionaire at 30.

I share that sentiment too, I find it difficult to start business now.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Nobody: 6:46am On Oct 09, 2020
joyandfaith:

I share that sentiment too, I find it difficult to start business now.
The business climate is absent.
It's not your fault.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Ayed44: 7:00am On Oct 09, 2020
In Yorubaland, we also have our own apprenticeship system. But in our own apprenticeship system, the servant will religiously serve the master for a number of years and thereafter it is the servant that will still pay the master. After serving the master for the agreed number of years, the master will now demand for money and some other items to do what we call "FREEDOM", after which the master will send the servant away empty handed to go and start from the scratch. Most servants may never be able to raise a start-up capital in their lifetime. Isn't this wickedness?

Should we blame the Igbos for this too?

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Obamaofusa: 7:09am On Oct 09, 2020
cbrezy:
Nigerian activist, Aisha Yesufu has stirred up a debate on Twitter after sharing her opinion that the Igbo apprenticeship system have contributed to why many people from other tribes resent Igbos.

It is given that the age long Igbo apprenticeship system has produced a lot of multimillionaires of Igbo extraction to the wonder of many from other tribes.

The Igbo apprenticeship system allows a businessman take a young person to learn about his business and eventually get settled (given start-up capital) after an agreed period of time, which usually lasts between 5 to 7 years. During the service period, the younger person (servant) serves the businessman (master) while learning the business.

The Igbos have used the system to build themselves and relatives into renowned business men and women even where apprentices have little, or no formal education.

A Twitter user had said: “The Igbo’s apprenticeship program is the only ‘MBA’ class in the world that teaches the real intricacies of running a business, the practical application of SWOT and PESTEL analysis. And when you graduate, they’ll give you seed capital to start the business. A system that works.”
In replying the tweet, Aisha Yesufu pointed out that “The Igbo apprenticeship is an amazing system and the reason Igbos are great in business.”

However, she went on to say that “Everything has it’s advantage and disadvantage and that same system has also portrayed Igbos as clannish people who only employ their own people and never assimilate”

Her tweets opened up a debate as she went on to state that the apprenticeship system have contributed to Igbos been resented the same way Jews are resented.

She went on; “These are my opinions and thoughts over the years and I might be completely wrong but this is how I see it.

“There is a need to take a deliberate look at the Igbo apprenticeship system & begin to look at ways of inclusion. It can start with 5% inclusion of others. When you always go to your village to bring those that will work for you how do you expect the people where you are to feel?

“Just like the Jews, Igbos are resented & I have always wondered why? Is it because they are successful and can achieve anything from nothing? Is it the resilience? I concluded it is because it seems no matter how long they stay with you or you with them you are never one in biz

“A situation where as a business person you only employ your people via the apprenticeship model & no matter how long you stay in a place you never employ the indigenes there except to load and off load. there will be resentment. More if it is not one off experience but the norm

“The Jews too have that trait. Family businesses. Helping each other grow in business and capacity to gang up(if na one naira na one naira) on business issues are common traits shared by both Igbos and Jews. The others feel like outsiders not allowed to share in the goodness

“Systems are to be looked at and upgraded from time to time. It is also important to look at how things are perceived by others. You don’t have to change but just know this is how this action is seen by others

“In all the riots I witnessed as a child, I always say it is more economical than religion. Host community usually think it is the others that kept them impoverished. They feel those monies would have been theirs if these people weren’t there. People don’t blame their lazy selves.

Seriously?
Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Oksman(m): 7:14am On Oct 09, 2020
Temitopemo6e6:
i love this woman, nigerians are so scared and selfish they can never protest or oppose this bad govt especially the ones that havesmall money in there account they feel so comfortable and dont care what goes on around them. only if nigeria have more citizens like this woman.

You are absolutely right!

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Pearl05(f): 7:15am On Oct 09, 2020
How many yoruba youths can endure and work for a master for minimum of 5yrs? After working at shop, comes home and fetch water, run errands for madam some even wash clothes, wont be in the sitting room when his master and mistress are there, wash dishes before going to bed. Early morning wash car if his master has one and other things. Eat his meals most times without meat and still be cheerful to his customers even immediately after he was scorned for wrong doing?

And again there is language barrier with an outsider.

If your apprentice misbehaves to call him to order is very simple being that you know his relatives so let other tribe copy the model and implement it.

Let the igbos do what they know how to do.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by ocha88(m): 7:18am On Oct 09, 2020
Must everything be politicized in this country, anyway am not surprise the best way to paid back to your oppressor is to be successful e Dey confuse dem die. When another man’s success begins to give you a sleepless night it can only lead you to evil � . Never you fight a man wey carry “God Grace’’ You see that thing called GRACE e pass juju e pass ritual. Do your own make I do my own , the world is too big , if you work hard you go reap the rewards, you see that successful man the story long o, the struggle no be for weak minded. Run your race nobody cares

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Obamaofusa: 7:24am On Oct 09, 2020
Ayed44:
In Yorubaland, we also have our own apprenticeship system. But in our own apprenticeship system, the servant will religiously serve the master for a number of years and thereafter it is the servant that will still pay the master. After serving the master for the agreed number of years, the master will now demand for money and some other items to do what we call "FREEDOM", after which the master will send the servant away empty handed to go and start from the scratch. Most servants may never be able to raise a start-up capital in their lifetime. Isn't this wickedness?

Should we blame the Igbos for this too?


There are 2 different apprenticeship schemes in Yorubaland: The one related to learning carpentry, upholstery, tailoring etc.In these cases,the parents pay the teacher or master for their child to acquire the knowledge from the master.The second system is one in which the apprentice stays and learns about trading or business from his mentor for a stipulated period and at the end of the period,the mentor gives the apprentice some merchandize or substantial fund or give both to the apprentice to start his own business.This last system is very rampant amongst the Kwarans especially the Ibolo,Igbominas also called OWO NI E JE (na money e go chop).
They are the singular largest landlords in Lagos.We have seen a situation where only one Igbomina man has up to 200 houses in Lagos alone.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by orisa37: 7:25am On Oct 09, 2020
IGBOS APPRENTICESHIP IS GOOD, INSTRUCTIONAL, DIRECTIONAL AND DISCERNING. IT'S GOOD FOR UNITY OF PURPOSES.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Nobody: 7:32am On Oct 09, 2020
orisa37:
IGBOS APPRENTICESHIP IS GOOD, INSTRUCTIONAL, DIRECTIONAL AND DISCERNING. IT'S GOOD FOR UNITY OF PURPOSES.


Which unity of purpose?
Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Nobody: 7:36am On Oct 09, 2020
ayzTIGER:
Last 50 years they were screaming Igbo domination in affairs of the country, Igbos left politics for them and minded their business now their problem is Igbo apprenticeship. A system borne out Igbo personal money and struggle. Before you know it they'd task Igbos to start carrying the whole country along for apprenticeship based on quota system.
You are right, but the message is why others resent Igbo. And she is very correct on that regardless on how you choose to twist your word. She never call for and force the Igbo to start employing other tribes but she simply pointed at a reason for the resentment and it doesn't matter if it justifiable or not but that's the fact of the matter.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by rejoice4eva(m): 7:38am On Oct 09, 2020
IGBOSON1:


The apprenticeship scheme by the Igbo emerged and grew organically based on culture and values! It wasn't borne out of a 'one Nigeria' federal gov't decree or law! You may just as well ask why the Fulani don't coopt and train other Nigerians in their herdsman business!
Great point. Why are the Fulani the custodian of herd business , kidnapping and all the associate

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by horsepower102: 7:40am On Oct 09, 2020
AhmedEmeka:

You are right, but the message is why others resent Igbo. And she is very correct on that regardless on how you choose to twist your word. She never call for and force the Igbo to start employing other tribes but she simply pointed at a reason for the resentment and it doesn't matter if it justifiable or not but that's the fact of the matter.

Yes she is right in that aspect but did igbos stop others from doing the same?

It’s not igbos people’s fault that they come to your land and take advantage of the opportunities available while you sit your ass down waiting for government.

Then tomorrow you tell your children that they are poor because of igbos.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Nobody: 7:47am On Oct 09, 2020
IGBOSON1:


The apprenticeship scheme by the Igbo emerged and grew organically based on culture and values! It wasn't borne out of a 'one Nigeria' federal gov't decree or law! You may just as well ask why the Fulani don't coopt and train other Nigerians in their herdsman business!


Mods should ban this moniker. I don't know why they will allow this moniker to stand. This guy no be igbo but impersonating.

I thought there are rules to ban such Monikers. Mods do the needful.
Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Nobody: 7:50am On Oct 09, 2020
Ayed44:
In Yorubaland, we also have our own apprenticeship system. But in our own apprenticeship system, the servant will religiously serve the master for a number of years and thereafter it is the servant that will still pay the master. After serving the master for the agreed number of years, the master will now demand for money and some other items to do what we call "FREEDOM", after which the master will send the servant away empty handed to go and start from the scratch. Most servants may never be able to raise a start-up capital in their lifetime. Isn't this wickedness?

Should we blame the Igbos for this too?


No, blame the system not Igbos.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by Solsix(m): 7:55am On Oct 09, 2020
Ngorbungor:


The truth is that no tribe in Nigeria can bend down low for 5-7 years to learn as Igbo does, and again it's a trade secret which we can give out to outsiders, except our fellow Igbo brother's
You are right, most tribe won't bend down to take Insult from ogas wife no to talk about other denials. All other tribe see is that the program is churning out.millionires

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by donmalcolm21(m): 7:57am On Oct 09, 2020
femi4:
That's the truth. The apprenticeship system must be done away with
Go and do away with it naa. Isi otu

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by mrsage(m): 8:01am On Oct 09, 2020
Interesting.

I respect the Igbo apprenticeship system. I'm not Igbo. However I love and respect the system.


It's a system that works...

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by mrsage(m): 8:05am On Oct 09, 2020
femi4:
That's the truth. The apprenticeship system must be done away with

Whenever you do not have anything concrete to say just keep quiet.


It's very very easy.

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Re: Igbo Apprenticeship System Makes People Hate Igbos – Aisha Yesufu Sparks Debate by GWGNG: 8:13am On Oct 09, 2020

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