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Re: The NBA Begins by aliondo: 8:57pm On Oct 12, 2020
When you're great,you're great...

According to one of my bro here, "there is levels to this thing, abeg" wink

Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 9:01pm On Oct 12, 2020
WeissVonner:

Like I said, cling to 2011 like your life depends on it.

What? 18 8 and 5 averages (20 8 6 during championship seasons) in the playoffs is offensively handicapped? we're the ones on crack? Dude, you should be arrested for claiming Joe Dumars is better than Pippen. You should never talk about LeBrons teammates not getting enough credit if you want to claim anyone of those guys was better than Pippen. None of the players you mentioned has ever finished top 5 in NBA voting, Pippen finished third.
We will cling to it cos it happened. It was the biggest superstar meltdown probably in NBA history

MJ literally won a Finals series with Pippen averaging 15 pts and 34% from the field. Don't tell me Pippen wasn't handicapped

John Stockton all time assists and steals leader
Gary Payton - DPOY
Penny Hardaway
Kevin Johnson who was dropping 24-10 in multiple postseasons

These guys all had better peaks than Pippen. Nobody cares about regular season MVP finishes. He didn't win the award so who cares?

WeissVonner:

Not only was he the best player in the league he had the best Robin in the league. Bron would be 10-1 in that era and thats assuming he has a meltdown like 2011.
And yet I can highlight numerous series from MJ's era where Pippen was thoroughly outplayed by the other team's Robin. I can also show you multiple playoff series where LeNomad's Robin was better than the other team's Batman. Can you do the same for Jordan?

MJ with the Heatles would have gone 4-0. He would never get outscored by his own teammates never mind the best player on the other team

Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 9:18pm On Oct 12, 2020
A40:

We will cling to it cos it happened. It was the biggest superstar meltdown probably in NBA history

MJ literally won a Finals series with Pippen averaging 15 pts and 34% from the field. Don't tell me Pippen wasn't handicapped

John Stockton all time assists and steals leader
Gary Payton - DPOY
Penny Hardaway
Kevin Johnson who was dropping 24-10 in multiple postseasons

These guys all had better peaks than Pippen. Nobody cares about regular season MVP finishes. He didn't win the award so who cares?


And yet I can highlight numerous series from MJ's era where he was thoroughly outplayed by the other team's Robin. I can also show you multiple playoff series where LeNomad's Robin was better than the other team's Batman. Can you do the same for Jordan?
Straight out of the Skip bayless playbook. You have no shame cheesy

Lmao, first it was Dumars, now its Kevin Johnson. Scottie Pippen has suffered. What was john stocktons peak? what was pennys? and Payton? There is no sane person who would make the argument you're making right now.

MJ and Pippen were easily the best duo in the 90s and Pippen was better than at least 90% of the robins he faced. The Bulls were by far the best team in the 90s, replace MJ with Hakeem and its the same result. These are just bare facts.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 9:18pm On Oct 12, 2020
LOL LeBron just won his fourth championship, why am I having this argument with this wretched soul. cheesy

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 9:34pm On Oct 12, 2020
WeissVonner:

Straight out of the Skip bayless playbook. You have no shame cheesy

Lmao, first it was Dumars, now its Kevin Johnson. Scottie Pippen has suffered. What was john stocktons peak? what was pennys? and Payton? There is no sane person who would make the argument you're making right now.

MJ and Pippen were easily the best duo in the 90s and Pippen was better than at least 90% of the robins he faced. The Bulls were by far the best team in the 90s, replace MJ with Hakeem and its the same result. These are just bare facts.
Kevin Johnson actually led his team to multiple Conference Finals. Beating Magic's Lakers in the process

I don't expect a casual Bronsexual like you to know about Kevin Johnson and his exploits. A guy that was dropping 23-12 at his peak. A player who did 20-10 and shot 50% from the Field 3 seasons in a row during the regular season, then 20 and 9 for 5 playoff runs.

This clown is really asking what is Payton's peak?? These are players that actually didn't have the luxury of playing with the GOAT and still made noise. Smh

Continue quoting nonsense percentages while I show you pictorial evidence of Pippen getting outplayed by other Robins meanwhile LeNomad's Robin's are out there outplaying Batman
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 9:35pm On Oct 12, 2020
WeissVonner:
LOL LeBron just won his fourth championship, why am I having this argument with this wretched soul. cheesy
Because you know it's a Mickey mouse ring you pathetic nonce

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 9:41pm On Oct 12, 2020
A40:
Because you know it's a Mickey mouse ring you pathetic nonce

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 9:45pm On Oct 12, 2020
I really hate it when people keep calling out analysts who picked the Clippers to win but are now giving the Lakers their props. I understand why they did it, I always felt they were wrong but you shouldn't keep harassing them for changing their opinion in light of new evidence. Where I get heated is when these people try to claim that the Lakers are some kind of super team or that it was a cakewalk. Otherwise, I'm big enough to accept people's apologies.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 10:02pm On Oct 12, 2020

Re: The NBA Begins by nairamaniac: 10:32pm On Oct 12, 2020
A40:
So was the Heat team in 2010. That team opened the eyes of others to this concept of creating the best possible situation and stacking the deck so high it was impossible to lose.

I would not count the GOAT out. Even that Warriors team was far from unbeatable. Chris Paul got hurt Game 5 with the Rockets up by 3-2. Nobody can prove to me the Rockets don't win that series if CP3 was healthy

Kobe is the only reason I'd be happy the Lakers won but the Kobe I knew would want me to keep that same energy so it's Bleep the Lakers still grin

bros, that warriors team with healthy Durant, klay and curry is unbeatable in a best of 7.

And even without Durant, they had the most efficient ways of scoring both midranges and 3pointers.

plus they has 2 of the top5 defenders in Iggy&draymond.

That kind of team have never happened in the history of the NBA.

A TEAM that had 3 players that could average up to 30points on any other team.


But u cant take it away from lebron cos he teamed up with wade&bosh.
For the fact it became easy for them to make it to 4finals didn't really mean it was naturally
meant to be that easy.

and please forget the "ray Allen factor". every other team had a ray Allen at one point or another.
paxson, Kerr, Millar,


Do u Remember Danny green being the ray Allen when he was in spurs??

I don't know the stats of Danny green, but he was so dangerous in San Antonio from beyond the arc.


The main factors in that heat team were.

1. lebron
2. The style of play(coach).
The coach made sure they all shot above 50% field goal percentage.
3. wade&bosh.


all in the above order.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 10:41pm On Oct 12, 2020
LOL How did I not see that? This dude really claimed MJ would beat the Kevin Durant Warriors.


This nigga is hopeless.

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:44pm On Oct 12, 2020
nairamaniac:


bros, that warriors team with health Durant, klay and curry is unbeatable in a best of 7.

And even without Durant, they had the most efficient ways of scoring both midranges and 3pointers.

plus they has 2 of the top5 defenders in Iggy&draymond.

That kind of team have never happened in the history of the NBA.

A TEAM that had 3 players that could average up to 30points on any other team.
I disagree. A healthy Chris Paul would have led the Rockets past Golden State in 2018. The Warriors were down at halftime in Game 7 by double digits and if they had any player with any kind of midrange game they beat the Warriors

It took a CP3 injury and Rockets missing 27 consecutive missed 3's for Golden State to advance. They were not unbeatable. The Rockets completely shat the bed in the second half. James Harden choked shooting 12/29

nairamaniac:

But u cant take it away from lebron cos he teamed up with wade&bosh.
For the fact it became easy for them to make it to 4finals didn't really mean it was naturally
meant to be that easy.
That team was supposed to win a 4peat. Have you forgotten what they said at their unveiling? There was a palpable fear that we were seeing a dynasty that had never existed in league history.
It was easy and it was a question of how many rings they would win not if they would make 4 Finals. You had Wade, Bosh, Battier on defense, Mike Miller off the bench then they added Ray Allen, added Rashad Lewis and other role players. That team was super loaded and the league should never have stood a chance


nairamaniac:


and please forget the "ray Allen factor". every other team had a ray Allen at one point or another.
paxson, Kerr, Millar,


Do u Remember Danny green being the ray Allen when he was in spurs??

I don't know the stats of Danny green, but he was so dangerous in San Antonio from beyond the arc.


The main factors in that heat team were.

1. lebron
2. The style of play(coach).
The coach made sure they all shot above 50% field goal percentage.
3. wade&bosh.
all in the above order.

The Heat's strengths obviously LeNomad was their best player but they had a strong bench, they also had a historically great defense. I still maintain that that Heat team should have won 3 or 4 rings in a row
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:56pm On Oct 12, 2020
Lil CP3 literally won 3 of 5 games but the GOAT. The greatest closer in league history would not finish the job?

The Rockets were winning games in that series with CP3 and James Harden literally shooting 11/40 combined.

Lmaoooo these Bronsexual casuals amuse me so much
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 11:44pm On Oct 12, 2020
Lol. The man who went to 6 games against Payton and Kemp, 6 games against drexler and kersey, and 6 games against Barkley is going to beat a team with Steph KD Klay and Draymond.

Mental illness is real people. cheesy

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 11:54pm On Oct 12, 2020
It's one thing to argue about basketball with rational people. Another thing entirely to argue with obtuse irrational fan girls with a delusional disposition.
Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 12:12am On Oct 13, 2020
WeissVonner:
Lol. The man who went to 6 games against Payton and Kemp, 6 games against drexler and kersey, and 6 games against Barkley is going to beat a team with Steph KD Klay and Draymond.

Mental illness is real people. cheesy

Lebron is a top 5 talent of all times. I do not see him being above Jordan but if he gets 2 more rings as the FMVP, he will be above Jordan it is that simple.

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Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 12:19am On Oct 13, 2020
aliondo:
When you're great,you're great...

According to one of my bro here, "there is levels to this thing, abeg" wink
life no suppose hard. Every talk about Lakers not winning the Chip should have died when the Clippers choked. Y'all were expecting Denver or the Heat to beat the Lakers? Abeg!!! There's levels to this shít.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 12:21am On Oct 13, 2020
A40:
I disagree. A healthy Chris Paul would have led the Rockets past Golden State in 2018. The Warriors were down at halftime in Game 7 by double digits and if they had any player with any kind of midrange game they beat the Warriors

It took a CP3 injury and Rockets missing 27 consecutive missed 3's for Golden State to advance. They were not unbeatable. The Rockets completely shat the bed in the second half. James Harden choked shooting 12/29


Jordan is the GOAT but...a Rockets team with CP3 and Harden lost to a KDless warriors the very next season 4-2.
And Jordan did lose to Orlando in his prime.
However, if your argument is that at 3-2 and with the double digits lead at half time, Jordan would have closed out that game against GSW, you have a point.
Also, Rockets did miss 27 consecutive threes but they made twos and free throws in-between the missed threes. They lost to the better team.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:28am On Oct 13, 2020
Android17:


Lebron is a top 5 talent of all times. I do not see him being above Jordan but if he gets 2 more rings as the FMVP, he will be above Jordan it is that simple.


Naah you're wrong, LeBron needs 7 more rings with at least 4 more FMVPs to catch up with the real GOAT, Bill Russell, since we're counting rings.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:31am On Oct 13, 2020
Android17:


Jordan is the GOAT but...a Rockets team with CP3 and Harden lost to a KDless warriors the very next season 4-2.
And Jordan did lose to Orlando in his prime.
However, if your argument is that at 3-2 and with the double digits lead at half time, Jordan would have closed out that game against GSW, you have a point.
Also, Rockets did miss 27 consecutive threes but they made twos and free throws in-between the missed threes. They lost to the better team.

Well at least you're not delusional. I legitimately think that man is on meth.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 7:00am On Oct 13, 2020
Strive For Greatness.

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Re: The NBA Begins by aliondo: 8:38am On Oct 13, 2020
WeissVonner:
Strive For Greatness.

So these athletes are aware and also join in the debates (like the one we usually have here) on who is the real GOAT??from this,it's just as if he reads the debate between you and A40.. shocked shocked
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 8:45am On Oct 13, 2020
aliondo:


So these athletes are aware and also join in the debates (like the one we usually have here) on who is the real GOAT??from this,it's just as if he reads the debate between you and A40.. shocked shocked

Naah, he said he will debate in private with his friends, but he'll never talk about it with the media and will allow them to do what they do. But I love that he's embracing the challenge of continuing to push himself to greater heights.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 12:13pm On Oct 13, 2020
What it do baaybay! cool

Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 12:16pm On Oct 13, 2020
Android17:


Jordan is the GOAT but...a Rockets team with CP3 and Harden lost to a KDless warriors the very next season 4-2.
And Jordan did lose to Orlando in his prime.
However, if your argument is that at 3-2 and with the double digits lead at half time, Jordan would have closed out that game against GSW, you have a point.
Also, Rockets did miss 27 consecutive threes but they made twos and free throws in-between the missed threes. They lost to the better team.
Simple
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 12:41pm On Oct 13, 2020
That's a lie. Cos he once mentioned during an interview that he thinks he became the GOAT after the 2016 finals.
WeissVonner:


Naah, he said he will debate in private with his friends, but he'll never talk about it with the media and will allow them to do what they do. But I love that he's embracing the challenge of continuing to push himself to greater heights.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 12:42pm On Oct 13, 2020
benji93:
That's a lie. Cos he once mentioned during an interview that he thinks he became the GOAT after the 2016 finals.

I'm talking about what he said yesterday.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 12:47pm On Oct 13, 2020
The Lakers did this without Avery Bradley. Danny Green is a good defender but the Lakers need to consider if that contract of his is worth it. If by the midseason trade deadline him and Kuzma haven't shown some consistency, they need to go. The Lakers need a 3 and D wing. They also need a third scorer who can get his own shot, don't know if Dion can be that guy. Then who do they keep between Javale and Dwight if they're signing Cousins (congrats on his ring BTW).

The Lakers have some very difficult decisions to make. But the bright side is they can only get better.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 1:06pm On Oct 13, 2020
WeissVonner:
The Lakers did this without Avery Bradley. Danny Green is a good defender but the Lakers need to consider if that contract of his is worth it. If by the midseason trade deadline him and Kuzma haven't shown some consistency, they need to go. The Lakers need a 3 and D wing. They also need a third scorer who can get his own shot, don't know if Dion can be that guy. Then who do they keep between Javale and Dwight if they're signing Cousins (congrats on his ring BTW).

The Lakers have some very difficult decisions to make. But the bright side is they can only get better.
Wait, Cousins got a ring? shocked

For me Javale needs to go. There's no point keeping him if he's a no-factor in the playoffs. Series after series he kept on being the fall guy. Having Cousins and Dwight will give us a more dynamic center position. Right from the off it was not our goal to have two rigid centers, circumstances forced our hands. I hope Cousins can stay fit though, because if he re-signs he's going to be our starting center. But I think we'll have enough to deal with short layoffs, by resorting to AD, Dwight and Markief, but a long injury will be bad.

Whichever way, our size will continue to be a nightmare for teams next season. Damn. Dwight, AD, Cousins, LeBron, Morris, Kuz...that's a lot to handle
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 1:18pm On Oct 13, 2020
Android17:


Jordan is the GOAT but...a Rockets team with CP3 and Harden lost to a KDless warriors the very next season 4-2.
And Jordan did lose to Orlando in his prime.
However, if your argument is that at 3-2 and with the double digits lead at half time, Jordan would have closed out that game against GSW, you have a point.
Also, Rockets did miss 27 consecutive threes but they made twos and free throws in-between the missed threes. They lost to the better team.
Don't go out of your way to misunderstand me. The claim was that the Warriors were unbeatable, I showed you that the Warriors were 3-2 down and a healthy Chris Paul away from being eliminated. Even in Game 7 without CP3 it took 27 straight missed 3's for them to lose

The very next year the Rockets were clearly not nearly as good and it showed because they were the #4 seed not the #1 seed

Jordan lost to Orlando yes but that was after almost two years away from basketball. He averaged 31pts in that series so he didn't do too badly.

My argument is replace Harden with MJ in 2018 they would have beaten that Warriors squad. Unless you're telling me Harden is better than Mike.

They made two's but if they had a midrange killer like MJ they would not need to take that many three's. Harden took 13 3's only made 2.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 1:20pm On Oct 13, 2020
This MPD suffering Bronsexual is brainless comparing Bill Russell who played in an era where you only needed two rounds to win a chip to make arguments grin
Re: The NBA Begins by osayi90: 1:31pm On Oct 13, 2020
Congrats to the lakers and particularly LeBron James and Anthony Davis. I am a Clippers fan, but I am 80 percent confident that the Lakers will repeat as long as AD and LeBron are healthy. I do not care about the pieces they have around them. LeBron is on a mission and Anthony Davis is just so dynamic and special. It became obvious to me in the playoff that they were (the lakers) heads and shoulders above other teams. I don't care about Kelvin Durant and Kyrie. They have no leadership qualities. Kyrie personality is as toxic as his talent is great. He is a curse in disguise and he is hardly available (always injured) . Also much respect to Frank Vogel.

As for the Clippers, they need to get a very good coach. Lou-Williams needs to be serious-minded and organised. Pat Berverly should tone down the shenanigans and focus more on the game. Kawhi should be Kawhi. Paul George should be more confident in himself and assertive. The clippers should get one more good piece.

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