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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by wink2015(m): 5:16pm On Oct 13, 2020
Redcrafton:


Every region should be semi-autonomous.

You don't need to go to Abuja for building your roads.

One region can decide to build their road and toll it...keeping the roads in good shape...while the other region might decide not to toll their roads and have them in bad conditions. Its up to them and their people.

This is against the current situation where the minister in charge in Abuja decides which roads to build.

STATES OR REGION SHOULD NOT ONLY BE SEMI AUTONOMOUS, THEY SHOULD HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS TO SEEK FOR INDEPENDENCE IF THEY SO WISH.

Scotland almost left the United Kingdom in their last referendum.

The federalism should be very loose to provide for easy entry and easy exit if you do not like the way other regions are managing the union.

ALSO, ONE REGION CAN DECIDES TO GROW CANNABIS TO GENERATE FUNDS provided the state or region remit tax from its earning to the federal authority.

That is federalism.

State that desire to earn from chewing stick like Yobe state can decides to cut down their coat according to their material and earn from chewing stick.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Nobody: 5:17pm On Oct 13, 2020
contigiency:
My major take on this is that, they forwarded the bill to the national assembly that has the powers for restructuring the country. Not to leave it for mere media tantrums and political jobbers to use and score cheap political points.
OTHERS HAVE BEEN MAKING AUDIO NOISE ABOUT RESTRUCTURING BUT THEY FAIL TO PRODUCE ANY DOCUMENT THAT WILL GUIDE & DEFINE THE TERM RESTRUCTURING TO THE NATION
After years of non committed propaganda by some groups, finally the real heroes have spoken. Media opposition & unguarded utterances are not enough to achieve a complex achievable policy objectives. If my southern brothers were serious about restructuring they would've followed the legal and acceptable way to push their agenda rather than just calling others names for agenda they can't even define. Though restructuring is opposition in disguise now the real men make the right move, through legal & acceptable means to get the nation restructured.
Average Northerners don't like the current marriage if you doubt me go & see their social media reactions about Nigeria. The political class want Nigeria to remain in their hands for personal gain. The reality is we need to restructure in the interest of all not the way Igbos want it. Igbos hate Nigeria with passion & they only want her fall down which they can never witness (I'm not instigating them but it can be seen clearly in their utterances).
Northerners have leadership DNA, this can be seen from this proposal. The truth is North isn't rejecting restructuring but they've consistently been asking what are we going to restructure? When they ask this question all the agitators look confuse in their definition of restructuring with no clear direction. North understood the sinister in 2014 CONFAB which have about 800 representatives from a state with less than 2m people and Kano was asked to be represented with less than 100 delegates. There were lots of selfishness agenda in the CONFAB.
If not because of ignorance of governance, how can you be asking President to restructure a nation or use unconstitutional CONFAB to restructure while we've NASS & everyone is fully represented in the house? Legislators are responsible for making laws not Executives but the barking dogs are always shooting at a wrong target.
Their ignorance of governance couldn't come with clear request for restructuring untill North seize this chance to use the opportunity of constitutional amendment offered by NASS asking every group to submit their demands.
I hope the restructuring will involve 85% resource control by states not selfish sinister of leeches hiding behind region to extort and drain other states with FG retaining the remaining 25%. Many people see sovereign nation as a toy game; we've military, foreign envoys, foreign and local intelligence, security agencies, and lots of other critical govt organs which require good funding for the nation to remain relevance in he eye of the world. Now Nigerians are hated almost everywhere in the world which is attributed to the bad attitude of few Nigerians exported to others nations, we need to be stronger in this chaos & war prone world because the moment we're weaken militarily & financially some little countries will threaten our existence!

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Nobody: 5:17pm On Oct 13, 2020
loveth360:
But he is right.

He is not any right.
let the people concerned fight their fight
no be another person go fight for them....thats stupidity.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by cooltola(m): 5:18pm On Oct 13, 2020
[b]restructuring is not answer when corruption is left unchecked
[/b]With a very corrupt regional power, things can be get worse than today
With a very corrupt leader, even a country that makes $1 trillion in a year will still be very poor and very backward.
Tackle corruption and you will start seeing results

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Gordieshegz(m): 5:18pm On Oct 13, 2020
gidgiddy:


What are you talking about? Dont you know that this 5 Eastern states were created by military rulers? Is Igbo land limited to the 5 states? What about the Igbos that were carved into Benue? What about Asaba people? What about Oyigbo? Should Igbos forget other Igbos because of bothers drawn up drunk military leaders?

When Nigeria is restructured, there must be a referendum for everyone to decide which Region they want to belong to.

Your suggestion is very valid brother.
The nigerian states were strategically created to make seccession difficult. So, refrendum will be very helpful.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Gordieshegz(m): 5:22pm On Oct 13, 2020
DexterousOne:


Why will anyone with half a brain want to scrap the House of Reps or Senate?
That's not smart at all

I agree with you sis.
As long as nigeria remains a country, legislative arm will still be very relevant.
However, our discussions may then border on the need to reduce its running costs or opt in for unicameral legislature.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by IGBOSON1: 5:23pm On Oct 13, 2020
Misterdhee1:

But these guys don't want to associate with their supposed igbo heritage, why is that your headache now? grin

I understand where Gidgiddy is coming from! ‘Those guys’ as you call them, didn’t just wake up one morning and begin denying their Igbo heritage! It’s the result of the machinations and the divide-to-conquer policies and covert actions of the core muslim north and their helpers down south...all aimed at denying Ndigbo access to the sea; shrinking our territory out of pure spite, hatred and wickedness; and removing hydrocarbon rich parts of Alaigbo for easier exploitation and so Ndigbo can’t develop as they should!

If you feel the above assertion is unfounded, care to provide proof of pre-1966 denying of their Igbo heritage by these grps? The best you can find are accusations of marginalisation by their fellow Igbos....same thing you still find today in every state or zone!

So Gidgiddy feels there’s a need to counter these machinations and give these deniers a opportunity to rejoin their kinsfolk under one pan-Igbo umbrella! My own is that no one should be begged! Just give a time-frame by which all who consider themselves Igbo in Benue, Delta, Rivers, etc, will join the fold after which the door will be closed and we can then say definitively who is Igbo and who isn’t!

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Abonyica042(m): 5:24pm On Oct 13, 2020
Redcrafton:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/10/restructuring-northern-leaders-root-for-12-state-structure/


THE ONLY DESIRE OF A TRUE IGBO MAN IS REFRANDUM. WE STAND ON WHAT MAZI NNAMDI KANU SAYS.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Nobody: 5:26pm On Oct 13, 2020
IGBOSON1:


Anything created by the sneaky muslim northern military hegemony should be dismantled! That would mean going back to the 4-regional structure, because it’s from there that rain started beating us! We go back to the 4-regional structure, and then start reorganising/restructuring things from there! Any attempt to listen to these crafty northern oligarchs would mean the south rolling over and accepting the criminal advantages they stole for themselves via the military!

Some people think they’re smart!
Parasite spotted. We're not backward ppl going back to 1960 or 1966 is a parasitic thinking of conquering & looting of neighbours resources. Each state must stand on its own. No formalities will be entertain.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by ensamy(m): 5:27pm On Oct 13, 2020
Now oil price has been down for too long at the international market. Subsidies has been removed.
Most of all lots of solid minerals are been discovered in some Northern states , even including Diamonds in commercial quantities and even possibilities of crude oil too. The North has suddenly agreed for resource control and restructuring ehhhhhhhh grin grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by loveth360(f): 5:27pm On Oct 13, 2020
Juliusmalema:



He is not any right.

let the people concerned fight their fight

no be another person go fight for them....thats stupidity.
Who are the concerned people?


Am from Asaba delta state and we will be happy to join our brothers across the Niger if Nigeria is restructured into Regional state.



Mind you if gidgiddy has no right to speak for,you also have no right to speak against because we didn't ask you speak against that.



Udo.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by IkwerrePikin: 5:28pm On Oct 13, 2020
gidgiddy:


Theres no problem with this except that we Igbos are going to insist that all Igbo speaking people be put in the Eastern Region. This means that Igbanke in Edo state, Anioma in Delta state, Umuezeokoha in Benue state and Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ahoada, Asa all Igbo speaking people in Rivers state be added to the present South East to make the Eastern Region.

Of course, all this will be by referendum to let everyone choose what Region they want to belong to

Remove Ikwerre from your list. We Ikwerre people are not igbos and fought for the division of old eastern region which led to the creation of Rivers state.

So there is no way Port harcourt city It’s sea port, airport and central location for the South South states from Edo down to Calabar, the lagos of the Niger delta people to be added to Igbos Eastern region? It is not possible!

Because apart from that, the location of Port harcourt is the center between the states in the South South, we Ikwerre people are not igbos and have no business in joining the igbos for any region or state, whatever it is called.

This map is the clear difference between the Niger delta (South South) and the Igbos (South East):

Know your boundary!!

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by CioAngels(f): 5:28pm On Oct 13, 2020
gidgiddy:


Theres no problem with this except that we Igbos are going to insist that all Igbo speaking people be put in the Eastern Region. This means that Igbanke in Edo state, Anioma in Delta state, Umuezeokoha in Benue state and Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ahoada, Asa all Igbo speaking people in Rivers state be added to the present South East to make the Eastern Region.

Of course, all this will be by referendum to let everyone choose what Region they want to belong to
If I remember, there was a meeting of all Igbo speaking states in the year 2002, and the Delta Igbo speaking states came back fuming over the insults given to them by the Eastern Igbos by referring to them as in the manority and as such they were not allowed to join the meeting. I wonder why now they think the Deltans are now a better choice. I hope Deltans will look at the union very well before anything. The Deltans should remember first and foremost the past insult and also remember they were taken out of the west. Igbos are deadly/cheat smart to have liasion with.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by DexterousOne(m): 5:29pm On Oct 13, 2020
Gordieshegz:


I agree with you sis.
As long as nigeria remains a country, legislative arm will still be very relevant.
However, our discussions may then border on the need to reduce its running costs or opt in for unicameral legislature.

Bicameral legislature is still good
Due to the complexity of Nigeria

What they should do is to trim the cost of maintaining them

Britain is much smaller than we are
But have more MPs than we do have Senators and House of Reps combined

If the legislature was passing Bills that impact the lives of Nigerians directly and positively
I doubt if anyone will complain as much

But they are just there
Collecting pay
They cant justify

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Sinistami(m): 5:30pm On Oct 13, 2020
I have been observing the whole thread, studying everyone's opinion and I can say this :

The North is up to something mischievous once more with the off-land in-land resources policy of a thing.

I don't support that 12 states arrangement. I don't think states like Rivers and Bayelsa would be happy to be reunited again. A lot of minorities wouldn't like it.

The big question is , why haven't any leader(s) from the south come up with a memorandum since we've been the ones advocating for it the most?

I want restructuring and I think this is a time for southern leaders to put heads together and think of what they want.

Franky I don't think the North wants this restructuring and that's why they've concieved a model of Nigeria they know the south will reject.

My 2 cents.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Nobody: 5:30pm On Oct 13, 2020
IGBOSON1:


Anything created by the sneaky muslim northern military hegemony should be dismantled! That would mean going back to the 4-regional structure, because it’s from there that rain started beating us! We go back to the 4-regional structure, and then start reorganising/restructuring things from there! Any attempt to listen to these crafty northern oligarchs would mean the south rolling over and accepting the criminal advantages they stole for themselves via the military!

Some people think they’re smart!
Parasite spotted. We're not backward ppl, going back to 1960 or 1966 dwarf our sense of decorum and mental reasoning, where is our intellect? The 36 states were created as a result of immense marginalisation from major ethnic groups, more regions were created as a result of extreme domination & marginalisation from major ethnic groups. This is a parasitic thinking of conquering & looting of neighbour's resources. Each state must stand on its own. No formalities will be entertain.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Nobody: 5:34pm On Oct 13, 2020
loveth360:
Who are the concerned people?


Am from Asaba delta state and we will be happy to join our brothers across the Niger if Nigeria is restructured into Regional state.



Mind you if gidgiddy has no right to speak for,you also have no right to speak against because we didn't ask you speak against that.



Udo.


Oh, you people were the ones that removed the little Biafran gate we put at asaba end of Niger bridge during covid-19

We demand an apology for that.....for dismantling our little Biafran gate.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by CavemanDefuturo: 5:34pm On Oct 13, 2020
When it's time to restructure, we would come together and decide how to restructure this country. No particular group will tell us how and what to restructure...period!
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by AsiwajuNdigbo: 5:34pm On Oct 13, 2020
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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Nobody: 5:36pm On Oct 13, 2020
IGBOSON1:


Anything created by the sneaky muslim northern military hegemony should be dismantled! That would mean going back to the 4-regional structure, because it’s from there that rain started beating us! We go back to the 4-regional structure, and then start reorganising/restructuring things from there! Any attempt to listen to these crafty northern oligarchs would mean the south rolling over and accepting the criminal advantages they stole for themselves via the military!

Some people think they’re smart!


We disagree. Your plan won't work. If the region will be SE ie Igboland then fine , anything aside that is a devilish act..

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by abuhari: 5:38pm On Oct 13, 2020
Well supported
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Nobody: 5:41pm On Oct 13, 2020
as nigeria is getting old (60) yrs, not all activities must be centralised to Abuja.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by CioAngels(f): 5:45pm On Oct 13, 2020
The Edo/Delta should know they are to talk about Midwestern Region as it where and not joining merging with any region if they are not going back to the old. The North suddenly realise restructuring is good after they have been able to take everything in the South and they are still scheming to strip South bear. Fg is saying the governors are aware of water bill, I guess they will consent the swimming pools in their houses so that their homes can be used by fulani herdsmen routes. Yes master governors as somebody said about the Southern leaders. Money/positions are reasons they are using their Citizens as collaterals to get

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by IGBOSON1: 5:47pm On Oct 13, 2020
CioAngels:
If I remember, there was a meeting of all Igbo speaking states in the year 2002, and the Delta Igbo speaking states came back fuming over the insults given to them by the Eastern Igbos by referring to them as in the manority and as such they were not allowed to join the meeting. I wonder why now they think the Deltans are now a better choice. I hope Deltans will look at the union very well before anything. The Deltans should remember first and foremost the past insult and also remember they were taken out of the west. Igbos are deadly/cheat smart to have liasion with.

Which Igbo ‘insulted’ Igbo from Delta State in 2002? Also, can you give us the exact date and venue of said meeting?

I’m waiting!

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by loveth360(f): 5:49pm On Oct 13, 2020
Juliusmalema:



Oh, you people were the ones that removed the little Biafran gate we put at asaba end of Niger bridge during covid-19

We demand an apology for that.....for dismantling our little Biafran gate.
You are not serious.




Biafrans dismantled Biafra gate,and you are talking about apologygrin
grin
Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by lordmans(m): 5:50pm On Oct 13, 2020
Rugaria:


Western minorities should have their own region too. Let all be free to be represented.. I mean the Aworis, the Eguns et all..


The Aworis are not minority. Awori is a subgroup or dialect of Yoruba language just like we have egba, ijebu, egbado, ijesha, ilaje, igbomina etc

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by loveth360(f): 5:52pm On Oct 13, 2020
IGBOSON1:


Which Igbo ‘insulted’ Igbo from Delta State in 2002? Also, can you give us the exact date and venue of said meeting?

I’m waiting!
You dey mind that liar,they will just manufacture lies and post on nairaland.


Evil minded people.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Ahamefuna0001(m): 5:55pm On Oct 13, 2020
loveth360:
Who told you we won't want to join our brothers across the niger.


Its not necessarily compulsory for all Igboid tribes to be in a particular region, they can be anyway and still keep the fire burning. Representing anywhere they are...

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by IGBOSON1: 5:59pm On Oct 13, 2020
Coronabirus:
Parasite spotted. We're not backward ppl, going back to 1960 or 1966 dwarf our sense of decorum and mental reasoning, where is our intellect? The 36 states were created as a result of immense marginalisation from major ethnic groups, more regions were created as a result of extreme domination & marginalisation from major ethnic groups. This is a parasitic thinking of conquering & looting of neighbour's resources. Each state must stand on its own. No formalities will be entertain.

Don’t know on what basis you’re calling me a parasite simply because i want all Igbo under one roof!

Your problem is that you’re such a calculating, greedy muthafucker that you see everything through the prism of pecuniary and monetary gain! You can’t seem to wrap your head around the fact that for some, family; brotherhood; kinship; and sharing all mean more than plotting who the next victim for exploitation would be!

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by einsteine(m): 6:05pm On Oct 13, 2020
gidgiddy:


Theres no problem with this except that we Igbos are going to insist that all Igbo speaking people be put in the Eastern Region. This means that Igbanke in Edo state, Anioma in Delta state, Umuezeokoha in Benue state and Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ahoada, Asa all Igbo speaking people in Rivers state be added to the present South East to make the Eastern Region.

Of course, all this will be by referendum to let everyone choose what Region they want to belong to


Speak for yourself. We don't want to be in your Eastern Region

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Nobody: 6:06pm On Oct 13, 2020
loveth360:
You are not serious.




Biafrans dismantled Biafra gate,and you are talking about apologygrin
grin

grin grin

I am serious. That gate was budgeted before erected..


Dismantling the gate was total disrespect to border agreement. That man that did that needs to be flogged.

Uptill now asaba have not returned our gate..


Since you won't apologize, pls give us our gate back.

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Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Dminister(m): 6:08pm On Oct 13, 2020
gidgiddy:


The problem with this narrative is that nobody managed to tell us how those from Edo have Igbo surnames. Did Igbo also dominate them to point of forcing them to drop their ancestral surname and adopt Igbo surnames? Amaechi, Omehia and Wike are surnames of past and serving Ikwerre Governors of Rivers and those names are Igbo. How did Igbos get their forefathers to abandon their ancestral Bini surnames for Igbo?
This narrative is baseless because the Ikwere people know their roots. You claimed Ikwere people bearing Igbo names to be Igbo when they made it clear they are from Edo. I know my root and you know your root so when I say you are not from Igbo does it justify my claim? Only you know your root and can justify your root just like the Ikwere people have done. Go and ask them, you will hear them loud and clear.

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