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haddeylium:
Leave trinitarian outta this. I don't care about your stand
and this isn't about Jesus position as you said but his nature.

We agreed on Jesus being human in his Human existence.

So, what's nature in his prehuman existence in heaven...
Human or Spirit being?

Blabbermouth is dodgy to admit the truth in this instance because it is the basis to nail his spurious claim.

For him mind, "son of man" in Daniel 7:13 is a human being in heaven

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly the form of worship Elijah's contemporaries prefer!
Today you worship with CCC, next Sunday C&S, upper Sunday MFM, next Synagogue, next RCCG, next Deeperlife, next Catholic, next Anglican, next Chosen.
That's politicians ways of worship, they want to be loved by all so even if Muslims invite them to the mosque they'll be present after all they also need support from that side too and gradually you find out that by the end of the day homos, lesbians and bestialists will all become normal life!

The Religious leaders and politicians scratch each other's backs when the need arises.
Anywhere belle face

Blabbermouth:
Humans are like apes

SPOTTED! atheistic perception about human.

Janosky:
Blabbermouth is dodgy to admit the truth in this instance because it is the basis to nail his spurious claim.

For him mind, "son of man" in Daniel 7:13 is a human being in heaven

He's one of the seed of the serpent! Genesis 3:15
They will never acknowledge headship therefore whatever it will cost them to continue fighting against orderliness will be a welcome development to them even if it means deceiving themselves {John 8:44} though they want to lord it over on others {Mark 10:42-43} but they don't want anyone to tell them what to do.
A diligent study during my service in the army helped me a lot to know such ones, they will pretend as if they're freedom fighters but the truth remains that their selfish ambitions is the motivating factor. 3John 9-10
Surely gullible ones will follow them to an extent but when greed began to manifest, that's when their followers will realize there is nothing like absolute freedom anywhere!

DappaD:
Perhaps someone should explain to them the meaning of Anthropomorphism .

It baffles me that hopeless apostates keep up to date with the JW Organization. Because they know that JWs are second to none—the instruction and spiritual food at the meetings can't be gotten anywhere else. And they know that.

That particular one came to NL to post pictures in a Watchtower article that was considered last Sunday. When I saw that I concluded within myself that apostates are just hopeless ignoramuses.
Please, Blabbermouth, take the initiative to counsel and control that your partner, before he commits suicide one day because as it seems, he's always restless and perturbed whenever it comes to matters concerning JWs.

DappaD!
OK you're expecting a Saddusee to help an Apostate shey?
Both of them have the same goal, none of their forms of worship can stand the truth so they'll hypocritically form alliance against the truth. And if Judas Iscariot commit suiside later in the going they'll take it as part of their sacrifice or cost just to fight against the truth.
They're both on the same page!

MaxInDHouse:
Most times when i decide to let him be he often believe he's making sense but after responding to his comments he feels worthless and tormented because the same Organization taught me and him yet i can stand tall anywhere and speak boldly about God's Organizational arrangement amongst Jehovah's Witnesses in the midst of whom i render sacred service to my God, whereas achorladey who wants to be free (going by his deceptive heart) can't even worship anywhere, neither can he worship God in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses because he feels they're wrong in most things, nor can he worship with any other religious group because he won't like to be taxed for coming to worship with them.
So achorladey is in the middle of nowhere!

Most times when i decide to let him be he often believe he's making sense but after responding to his comments he feels worthless and tormented


see the tormernter after boasting who could not answer why the ORGANIZATION still used the name CHRISTIAN since the new DIVINE NAME to called TRUE CHRISTIANS is Jehovah's witnesses

So achorladey is in the middle of nowhere

You will still come back and ask me the name of my CHURCH .

going by his deceptive heart

Another you have fallen into my DECEPTIVE skill abi? At least I can't WORSHIP you so the way and manner to worship can't be decided by YOU

Janosky:
So for your mind spirits are humans because drawings depicts them in human form?

Na wa for you

To the bolded I give you . Why not depict them in ANGEL form. Those one not depicted as angels are WHAT?

MaxInDHouse:
The person you're responding to have seen the picture you posted and have been mocking just as you proposed but after my explanation he can now see that there is nothing he himself can say against the artistic impression on the publication, shame on apostasy!

but after my explanation he can now see that there is nothing he himself can say against the artistic impression

and blabber followed with........

Good! You've corrected yourself

So tell me how come you deem it fit to say he said not shine your

shame on apostasy

When you see APOSTASY you no sabi am

AkinwaleJJ:
SPOTTED! atheistic perception about human.

whatttt??

He almost said his own Jesus that is human in heaven is like ape

I've seen it all

MaxInDHouse:
It's just an artistic impression of what happened in the heavens, note that millions of JWs now are less concerned about this because our hope is earth!
So that picture sent a message to the rest of the anointed brothers of Christ who will still join their brothers in heaven.

It's just an ARTISTIC impression. and the artist impression shows what and what and in what FORM .



note that millions of JWs now are less concerned

Who ask you to tell me your CONCERNS?

MaxInDHouse:
I didn't notice this yesterday!
So achorladey posted the cover picture of the latest Watchtower and to my surprise he wants to criticize the artistic impression!

Well i'll teach you this one. Those with wings are angels who never had the privilege to do anything special than their usual assignment so they remain the same way God's word described them as creatures looking like humans but having wings. Though whenever this creatures are sent to communicate with humans they often appear like ordinary humans (without wings).
Those standing and looking amazed at the winged creatures are the first set of Born Again Christians resurrected in 1914, Jesus has taken this anointed ones home to heaven and as you're seeing in the picture Jesus is telling his friends things they need to know about those angels!
Note that the humans are now superior to those angels because angels aren't going to rule with Jesus. So they are dressed like human kings who will sit around God's throne sending angels on errand to do one thing or another for their subjects on planet earth!

Note that the humans are now superior to those angels because angels aren't going to rule with Jesus. So they are dressed like human kings

I thought I had to put on my school uniform and enroll in your THEOLOGICAL SCHOOL but after reading your explanation, the desire to enrol was nothing to write about

achorladey:
Note that the humans are now superior to those angels because angels aren't going to rule with Jesus. So they are dressed like human kings

I thought I had to put on my school uniform and enroll in your THEOLOGICAL SCHOOL but after reading your explanation, the desire to enrol was nothing to write about

Keep deceiving yourselves!
This is what matters to the other sheep!

MaxInDHouse:
Keep deceiving yourselves!
This is what matters to the other sheep!

Good evening

achorladey:
Good evening

Hmmmmmmmm Satan has captured you completely!
No wonder you can't comprehend simple artistic impression on the world's most popular magazine!
Well i'll tell you what the greeting "good morning" on the drawing means.
Each morning in this system of things is characterized by hustling and bustling, everyone is on the go due to the anxieties of life but in Paradise we will wake up with nothing to keep us under such stressful conditions again. So that is the time the greeting "GOOD MORNING" will make a lot of sense, as it will come from deepest part of our hearts as we meet our brothers and sisters in the early hours in Paradise!

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmm Satan has captured you completely!
No wonder you can't comprehend simple artistic impression on the world's most popular magazine!
Well i'll tell you what the greeting "good morning" on the drawing means.
Each morning in this system of things is characterized by hustling and bustling, everyone is on the go due to the anxieties of life but in Paradise we will wake up with nothing to keep us under such stressful conditions again So that is the time the greeting "GOOD MORNING" will make a lot of sense, as it will come from deepest part of our hearts as we meet our brothers and sisters in the early hours in Paradise!

Satan has captured you completely

jumping from one tag to the other. Describing and qualifying me from post to post

Who ask you the explanation of your artistic impression?

Simple good evening becomes........Satan has captured you completely

No wahala, shey you don greet bah?
Thank you!

achorladey:
Satan has captured you completely
jumping from one tag to the other. Describing and qualifying me from post to post
Who ask you the explanation of your artistic impression?
Simple good evening becomes........Satan has captured you completely

Blabbermouth wô lé bí trailer, adventure pelû thriller. Gbá wôn so nù bí tipper, awá dà, awá re. Awá Gan gan ni baba, wön lé lé lé wön ri ba.

Let me joke a bit today.

MaxInDHouse:
We are Jehovah's Witnesses!

I know.

We know how painful it is when people realize how unique our doctrine is and the way each of us holds it so dear. That's why we keep asking you and your cohorts to present your Churches to weigh side by side with JWs doctrines, we know none of you can do that because you're ashamed of your Churches.

I repeat, your denomination, just like every other denomination was never in God's plan.
If you get liver, I repeat - if you get liver. For the last time, if you get liver, tell me;
1. A single JW group member whose eternal life is assured - (his name in the scriptures please)

2. Where Jesus said, His church will lose it, and Russell will be the one to found the only group that will know Jehovah.

We both know you will never find an answer to the 2 questions above, let me give you a softer meat to chew;

3. Where denominations was encouraged, or conceptualized by any of the fore runners (I mean, Jesus and his recognized disciples)

If you can't do that, then JW group remains unrecognized just like every other denominations we have out there.

We are not expecting a commendation from liars like you Sir, whether you like it or not know today that you've found Jesus' true disciples, it's left to you to decide whether to join and worship God acceptably or continue deceiving yourselves in the midst of false religionsists!
God bless you!

Anyone can claim the above! That doesn't make you right.

Go and read John 3:16 again, then come back and tell me if what you saw there was:
ANYONE or ANY GROUP.

haddeylium:
All what you quote there are your personal opinion

You say what?!
If you get liver, I repeat - if you truly have God's wisdom working in your group, go ahead and address any of the numerous scriptural facts I laid down.

Angels are called Man and they're still Spirit being (not human)
Agreed?
Reason I wanted your definition.

You want to go another round? No, I don't think you can last.

Stop hiding behind facade
Go ahead and tell us
What kind of being is Jesus in his prehuman existence in heaven..Human or spirit being?
popcorn pleaseee

It's an hard meat. Your hardened spirit life force is still resisting the undiluted truth of Christ Jesus ressurected and the wisdom thereof, how can it bear the one of his prehuman existence?

See, another difference between God's wisdom and mere man? I need no one-way shit before the truth was conveyed to you - many other means could have been deployed.

Look at you, chasing at straws, trying to sound as if you even gave me a single blow. I have been dutifully shoving truth-sand into your throat since we've engaged each other on this thread, what did you do? Nothing, but chant in your heart - "I will stand my ground".

I know who your lord is already, that's why I have backed down from expounding some other essentials, as I've purposed to do before.

haddeylium:
Leave trinitarian outta this. I don't care about your stand
and this isn't about Jesus position as you said but his nature.

We agreed on Jesus being human in his Human existence.

So, what's nature in his prehuman existence in heaven...
Human or Spirit being?

You still need to ask Jehovah for wisdom, your GB didn't give you a lasting one.

I will not answer your last line, the answer is too big for you.
You can phone-a-friend, let anyone that has your so-called "teachability" come with the wisdom that works in him, let's see if he can untangle you from the numerous truth-cage i've boxed you in.

Have a sweet sleep knowing you still believe something that you have realized to NOT BE the truth. Because you are a blind folded dog that belongs to a cruel master. When he says "Jump!" , you say "How high?".

When he stumbles, you surely must stumble with him.
When he his being called out for his cruelty, you surely must defend him teeth-to-bones.
Even if lies proceeds from his mouth, it is the truth to you.
What a sorry lad you are.

Your true lord beckoneth at the door knocking, if you have ears, heed his voice and he will set you free.

DappaD:
Ha! You never see this people

See somebody that his opinions and teachings can't be traced back to any religious organization is here saying that he found light.
Ndị independent religionists

It can be traced back to the undiluted words of my Lord - Jesus the Christ!
It can be traced back to the plain and powerful words of my God - YHWH

That's the basic requirement, and I (by grace) aced it 100%.

Over to you, your religious organization is not recognized - not by God, or by Christ, or Peter, or John or James or Paul or anyone at all!

What do you have? An org that displaced Christ's own ekklesia.
I repeat - you are not recognized.

haddeylium:
Afi 'independent religionist' that sometimes worship with religious group with different doctrines

Worship with religious group with different doctrines?
You don't know what "worship" is.

He already said it's Spirit that reveals his saying to him ...
He just didn't say which Spirit?

Elijah didn't need too much story, at the end of the show, them know who is the confam God.

Your wisdom was dangling like the scrotum of a 100 year old man - that doesn't look like God's wisdom In action.

AkinwaleJJ:
I guess it must be the spirit of uncertainty. So don't think he can't enter the Kingdom Hall close to him for worship, he just doesn't want anything called restraint! Matt 7:23

Smiles, I've entered your kingdom hall before.
They told me not to eat the bread (you sure know that bread right), perhaps, I wasn't qualified for it.

There is foolishness in thinking or believing one can meet God's standard with restraint.

Do you know what grace is?
It is calling a ground, which is even not a living thing, "Holy". Why? Because something has been vested upon it.

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly the form of worship Elijah's contemporaries prefer!
Today you worship with CCC, next Sunday C&S, upper Sunday MFM, next Synagogue, next RCCG, next Deeperlife, next Catholic, next Anglican, next Chosen.
That's politicians ways of worship, they want to be loved by all so even if Muslims invite them to the mosque they'll be present after all they also need support from that side too and gradually you find out that by the end of the day homos, lesbians and bestialists will all become normal life!

Taking you by your contextual meaning of worship, it would mean I also worship with you and your fellow JW brothers here on NL.

AkinwaleJJ:
SPOTTED! atheistic perception about human.

It seems you are the only one that is yet to know me that well here.
The rest know that I sound
1. Atheistic
2. Agnostic
3. Moralistic
4. Free-life-istic
5. Anything-istic
Et al, whenever it is necessary for achieving a particular purpose.

MaxInDHouse:
He's one of the seed of the serpent!

You try.

haddeylium:
whatttt??
He almost said his own Jesus that is human in heaven is like ape
I've seen it all

Coward.

Blabbermouth:
You still need to ask Jehovah for wisdom, your GB didn't give you a lasting one.

I will not answer your last line, the answer is too big for you.
You can phone-a-friend, let anyone that has your so-called "teachability" come with the wisdom that works in him, let's see if he can untangle you from the numerous truth-cage i've boxed you in.

Have a sweet sleep knowing you still believe something that you have realized to NOT BE the truth. Because you are a blind folded dog that belongs to a cruel master. When he says "Jump!" , you say "How high?".

When he stumbles, you surely must stumble with him.
When he his being called out for his cruelty, you surely must defend him teeth-to-bones.
Even if lies proceeds from his mouth, it is the truth to you.
What a sorry lad you are.

Your true lord beckoneth at the door knocking, if you have ears, heed his voice and he will set you free.

He cannot afford the HEAD to be taken to the chopping block should he call what is master call black, white even when his EYES can clearly see that it is white

Blabbermouth:
Taking you by your contextual meaning of worship, it would mean I also worship with you and your fellow JW brothers here on NL.

Blabbermouth:
You say what?!
If you get liver, I repeat - if you truly have God's wisdom working in your group, go ahead and address any of the numerous scriptural facts I laid down.
You want to go another round? No, I don't think you can last.
It's an hard meat. Your hardened spirit life force is still resisting the undiluted truth of Christ Jesus ressurected and the wisdom thereof, how can it bear the one of his prehuman existence?
See, another difference between God's wisdom and mere man? I need no one-way shit before the truth was conveyed to you - many other means could have been deployed.
Look at you, chasing at straws, trying to sound as if you even gave me a single blow. I have been dutifully shoving truth-sand into your throat since we've engaged each other on this thread, what did you do? Nothing, but chant in your heart - "I will stand my ground".
I know who your lord is already, that's why I have backed down from expounding some other essentials, as I've purposed to do before.

Jehovah's Witnesses are peace loving people
I don't mean to cause you an emotional Outburst. it's Ok to think you're right. It's totally normal if we have conflicting teaching with the one the spirit is revealing to you.
It's no new thing. Many disapproved Jesus teaching even when he's the Messiah let alone a common followers. Nothing less is expected.

Give you blow? lol of what use is that to me?...
I'm only interested in honesthearted people hungry for the spiritual truth.

Maybe you're too.
We agreed on
Jesus life didn't begins on this Earth?
Jesus is a human in his human existence?

Since his life didn't begin on this Earth, What's nature in his prehuman existence ...Spirit or Human

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I will not answer your last line, the answer is too big for you.
You can phone-a-friend, let anyone that has your so-called.

Would take this as you're not ready...
peace!

When he stumbles, you surely must stumble with him.
When he his being called out for his cruelty, you surely must defend him teeth-to-bones.
Even if lies proceeds from his mouth, it is the truth to you.
What a sorry lad you are.
Your true lord beckoneth at the door knocking, if you have ears, heed his voice and he will set you free.

How do we know if someone is in possession of true wisdom/knowledge?

When some might be doubting Jesus' teaching
Matt 18:11All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by its works.”

The Love Jesus said his followers would have among themselves. They show it to others and primarily themselves(Joh 13:35; Gal 6:10)
if necessary, we're ready to die for another (1 Jam 3:16)

Keeping Ourselves without spot from the world
We don't engage in war and kill people(Mic 4:3)
we don't engage political affairs of the world. (Joh 18:36).
we preach God's kingdom as mankind's only hope as Jesus did.

The true faith are a worldwide brotherhood, (1 Pet 2:17; 5:9) "one body” and are harmoniously joined together. (Eph 4:4, 16)

Quote me anytime, You can't find this in any denomination
Jehovah's Witnesses could righly say their wisdom is Justified !

Blabbermouth:
Coward.

Pardon me..

in future, if Jehovah sees that you're an honesthearted Genuine worshipper. He will draw you to his congregation so you could worship unitedly with this loving people (Joh 6:44; Jer 31:3)