drakeskull:


No screen but scanned with no error codes.

radautoworks:


Do you have someone who can reset an ECU? If you do, deal with the idle running first and start the car. Allow the temperature to rise to 70c to 80c before resetting ECU and relearning the valvetronic. should address the issue of PMS consumptions.

drakeskull:


No I don't. Can I bring it in?

Femtopford:



Listen properly, the problem your vehicle has is very simple, we requested for fault codes, I don't know whether you have provided the codes. if there isn't any code and the engine runs smoothly at idle and other 4 induction circuit of the throttle flap when the vehicle is stationary, then forget throttle actuator and idle air control solenoid.

The throttle actuator ( throttle body) and idle control valve either the two are integral or detachable, once the 5 circuits of the air induction are precised during vehicle stationary, it will surely perform perfectly on motion.

So satisfy that the 5 induction circuit are precised
(1) Starting circuit.
(2) Slow running circuit (idle) circuit
(3) Partial throttle circuit
(4) Acceleration circuit.
(5) Maximum power or economizer or whole throttle

But in your case, you said the drivability is erratic, so the ECM must have retrieved some codes, be sure to Post the codes here so that we can assist you

radautoworks:


Has it been scanned for any codes or why did you change all those parts? You've posted this in about five places and answered no follow up questions.

Tap the throttle body while the car is on. If stalling reduces, change idle air control valve

sultaan:
What if it was the parking brakes or calipers sticking, and when he reverse in the morning they grip on the pads, or if the driveshaft needs attention

radautoworks:


Do you have someone who can reset an ECU? If you do, deal with the idle running first and start the car. Allow the temperature to rise to 70c to 80c before resetting ECU and relearning the valvetronic. should address the issue of PMS consumptions.

nonhuman:
can any scanner get the codes, but be reminded that there is no check engine light on the dashboard

sultaan:
I think we are missing the point here. The idea is not for individuals to have alternate interest in other brands of vehicles, but for them to come together and enlighten the Nigerian market of the value Ford or any other American brand can offer in place of overpriced brands.
The Ghanaians are using Chevrolet and they do not have 3 heads.
We maybe discussing the value Kia or Mitsubishi offer in small/compact cars.
The fact that it is okay to be replacing engine in one brand and not other brands is not acceptable.

My usual question to Radauto when it comes to some brands is " was it caused by vehicle failure, negligence, or tampering by mechanic" and she has never fully answered. Having access to parts, and bulletin means your are in a better position to educate users to get things done right the first time and when you build confidence you get more business.

I don't think we have all been able to serve the Nigerian users properly on this forum.

Boocee:
Please do you have hub for Pontiac Torrent? If yes like how much will it cost to change mine? Thank you.

radautoworks:


I think the article below will explain my issues with Ford a little more. If you click the link for the original article directly below, at the bottom you will see the same for the Fiesta and Focus. I'm actually a little surprised it was this bad. So when I advice people not to buy certain cars, it's because of what we saw with those vehicles overseas. Note, this is not just a recall or TSB. It's straight up FRAUD. in recent memory the only other manufacturer I recall getting caught for something like this was VW over falsifying diesel engine emissions.


https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2020/10/13/f-series-super-duty-6-0-l-diesel-engine-costs-ford-again/3626782001/

Appeals court: Ford committed fraud by selling defective Super Duty trucks
Phoebe Wall Howard
Detroit Free Press
The owner of a 2006 Ford F-350 argued for years that Ford Motor Co. sold Super Duty trucks with defective 6.0L diesel engines to thousands of unsuspecting buyers and then concealed the known problems, saddling customers with repair bills and exposing them to engine failure.

Now an appeals court has agreed with Charles Brian Margeson, 41, of Torrance, California.

He is the first Super Duty truck owner with a 6.0L diesel engine to have a fraud claim against Ford affirmed on appeal. The California Court of Appeal late last month upheld a lower court's ruling in Margeson's favor. Five other jury awards against Ford in similar cases are pending appeals.


"I bought my truck new. It must've broken down a couple dozen times and the turbo even blew up," Margeson told the Free Press. "I started carrying spare hoses with me and leather gloves because everything was super hot and I had to repair it myself on the side of the freeways. We would lose power. I mentioned it to Ford a couple times, saying, 'Hey, this is a lemon.' They just laughed it off. I just wanted a truck that worked."


He decided to opt out of a class action case involving unhappy Super Duty owners who eventually settled in 2013.

On his own, Margeson filed a lawsuit in June 2014. He was awarded a total of $940,177.74 in June 2017, but the appeals court determined expert testimony about punitive damages was improper and tossed out that piece of his award — about $726,000. But a new jury, in a trial not yet scheduled, will determine how much Ford must pay him in punitive damages, which by definition is designed to punish the defendant.

A top legal expert in the U.S. told the Free Press that Margeson's victory is a powerful example of how a class action case can be used to prevent potentially billions in costs when things go wrong with consumers, in this case for Ford.

"The company dodged a bullet," said Brian Fitzpatrick, a law professor at Vanderbilt University who clerked for the late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.

Charles Brian Margeson, his daughter, Alexis, wife, Jaime, and son, Robert, of Torrance, California during a "COVID trip" to Zion National Park during spring break in April. He sued Ford for fraud after the company sold him a 6.0L diesel engine with known defects used in his F-350.
In Margeson's case, the Court of Appeal in California on Sept. 22 upheld the Los Angeles County Superior Court jury verdict that found Ford acted with malice, oppression or fraud by deliberately concealing known defects in its Power Stroke diesel engine. The engine was made by Navistar and used primarily in Super Duty trucks for model years 2003-07.

Margeson, a technician who maintains the electrical grid for Southern California Edison, used internal Ford documents to prove in court the Dearborn automaker knew its diesel engines were bad and put them in the heavy-duty pickups anyway for years.


Owners reported problems including loss of engine power, blown head gasket, warped or disfigured head bolts and oil cooler failure. Frequent breakdowns and decreased resale value dominated pickup discussion groups.

The jury award to Margeson included the maximum amount allowed for Ford’s violation of California’s lemon law, totaling $214,537.34, plus legal fees. That amount is not in dispute and will go to Margeson.

It could've been avoided if Ford had taken his pleas seriously, Margeson said. "Every time I would tow, the thing would break down."

Charles Brian Margeson of Torrance, California, purchased a 2006 Ford F-350 that routinely broke down when he hauled his trailer. He sued Ford Motor Co. for fraud and his case was upheld on appeal in September. This image of his vehicle was taken in California City, California, circa 2008.
Bryan Altman of Los Angeles, Margeson's lawyer, said the new jury will determine how much Ford should be punished monetarily.

"There's no built-in ceiling on this," Altman said. "The jury will be tasked with considering how heinous and repetitive their fraudulent conduct was. They put this 6.0 engine in over 1 million Ford vehicles, with estimates in sales ranging as high as $60 billion."



A Ford spokesman declined to comment on details of the case. Ian Thibodeau told the Free Press in a statement, "We are happy that the appellate court struck down the punitive damage award. Ford looks forward to the opportunity for a retrial.”

Black smoke
Of the nearly $215,000 the jury awarded Margeson under the lemon law, $72,564.04 was in compensatory damages that essentially repay Margeson for his truck, which was among the priciest on the market at the time. The rest was a civil penalty.

For years, he and other owners of the heavy-duty pickups reported the engines would break down and emit black smoke.

Margeson decided to sue, he said, after the truck stranded him on the side of a highway with his wife and baby as semis roared past. He broke down in tears on the stand while testifying under examination.


"It was really scary," said Margeson, who declined an offer from Ford for a few hundred dollars after he had spent thousands in repairs. "I understand they're a business and they care about their shareholders. But, at some point, they need to be worried about their customers."


Ford initially denied a problem existed, then claimed there was insufficient evidence to prove the claim and finally maintained the company wasn't aware of the extent of the diesel engine problem. Internal emails written by upper level management shattered the Ford defense.


One email presented during trial was dated five months before Margeson purchased his truck. John Koszewnik, Ford's North American diesel division director, wrote on Feb. 5, 2006, that warranty repairs on the 6.0L engine were running "as high as $5 million a month" and added Ford would not invest in an engine upgrade. Two hours later, according to court records, Koszewnik warned people not to forward his email.

Mike Frommann, the Ford warranty manager, emailed his colleagues warning that the diesel engine could lead to a class action lawsuit if its cylinder pressure specifications went public.

He wrote in an email to colleagues dated July 13, 2006, "I recommend we delete all these emails."

By February 2007, warranty repair costs on the engine exceeded $400 million, including more than $227 million to fix fuel injectors and more than $182 million on turbochargers, which was the largest repair rate ever seen for any Ford engine. This information was taken from an affidavit by one of Ford's own officials in a lawsuit it filed against Navistar. Despite this testimony, Ford later denied engine problems when it was being sued over the Navistar engine.


The appeals court affirmed there was "adequate evidence of intentional concealment of these problems by Ford to the detriment of consumers."

Not alone
Super Duty trucks, which are purchased for both personal and commercial work, are bigger and more powerful than their bestselling F-150 little brother. The F-250 and F-350 are marketed as being capable of pulling more weight and carrying heavier loads.

Ford Super Duty owners have claimed since it came out that the Navistar engine was troubled. At the same time, the faulty engine was touted as best in class by Ford with the most horsepower, most torque and other high-performance claims. The Free Press was unable to confirm how many of the vehicles remain on the road today.

Class action settlement
While the young father sued Ford himself, other truck owners chose a different route.


Dozens of class-action lawsuits involving the 6.0L diesel engine were consolidated and settled in 2013 by Ford. It entitled F-250 and F-350 owners to claim between $50 and $825 in reimbursement for post-warranty repairs.

Ford agreed to pay the 16 truck owners who brought the class action lawsuit on behalf of Super Duty owners nationally a total of $150,000, which is separate from the relief money provided to all people included in the class group, Automotive News reported.

Compare $150,000 total for 16 plaintiffs with nearly $215,000 for one plaintiff, not including punitive damages.

Super Duty owners were included in the class action and qualified for limited repair reimbursement unless they opted out.

Win for Ford

The Super Duty class action settlement was a huge win for Ford, especially in light of the recent court ruling, said Fitzpatrick, author of "The Conservative Case for Class Actions."


"That opens up the question, could every single class member have gotten the price of their car back?" he said. "If they had to pay every class member the price of their car back, it would be like the Volkswagen situation and Volkswagen paid billions of dollars. They ended up paying every class member the price of their car — 500,000 people."

The case against Ford appears to have been a lot more valuable than the Super Duty class members knew at the time, FItzpatrick said.

Brian Fitzpatrick, a law professor at Vanderbilt University and author of "The Conservative Case for Class Actions," said Ford Motor Co. contained huge costs by settling a case involving the 6.0L diesel engine used in Super Duty models 2003-2007.
"One of the virtues of class action, from the defendant's perspective, is 'global peace,' ” Fitzpatrick said. “You can wipe something off your balance sheet in one fell swoop. That's why a lot of companies like class action. But every once in a while, someone will opt out. So the loose ends weren't quite tied up this time. But pretty close. One got away, but that's OK. The company still got a lot of global peace for the settlement."


Meanwhile, the F-350 case involving Margeson is the first of six Super Duty cases led by Altman and the Knight Law Group, laying the groundwork for potential issues for Ford in the future.

In addition to Margeson, five other consumers who owned Super Duty trucks with 6.0L diesel engines collectively have been awarded more than $10 million by juries. Ford is appealing all of these cases.

Fitzpatrick said Ford would be wise to settle with remaining Super Duty owners suing over the Navistar engine. He said the company could cut its losses and reduce time and money by closing the books.

Auto critics knew
"The dark times began in 2003," wrote Chris Riley in an historical overview of engines posted on autowise.com in early 2018.

"Faced with more stringent emissions standards, Ford introduced its least reputable diesel engine to date —the 6.0L Power Stroke. This engine was so bad that Ford and Navistar eventually went to court over it," Riley wrote. "It featured a glut of emissions equipment never before used, such as an exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) valve."

$1B on repairs
By January 2009, Mike Levine wrote as then-editor of PickupTrucks.com, "Ford said it had spent $1 billion on repairs and recalls to fix problems with legacy 6.0-liter Power Stroke diesel engines."

Bryan Altman and his son, Michael, at a restaurant in Santa Monica, California in fall 2018. Altman represents owners of Ford F-350 trucks suing Ford for defective 6.0L diesel engines used in model years 2003-2007.
Loss of power steering and power brakes because of engine problems resonated with jurors in multiple cases, not just Margeson's, Altman said. "Ford would deny the problem" but their internal emails indicated the company concealed what it knew.

"They were even keeping repair people at Ford facilities in the dark so information never got out to the public, according to testimony," he said.


Bob Fascetti, who oversaw diesel engine products as director of V-engine and diesel engineering for Ford North America, said in a Feb. 28, 2007, affidavit: "Ford has experienced unprecedented repair rates with the 6.0L engines. The 6.0L has had the largest R/1000 (repairs per thousand) rate ever experienced by Ford for an engine in widespread production. In fact, the 6.0L, which represents only 10% of Ford's total engine volume, accounts for approximately 80% of all of Ford's warranty spending on engines. Additionally, warranty spending on the 6.0L accounts for approximately 25% of Ford's overall warranty spending."


Future business
Jon Gabrielsen, a market analyst who has interviewed hundreds of commercial truck buyers in North America on how they rank factors that influence their purchase, said these Navistar cases may be more sensitive than casual observers realize.

This is not just about individual Super Duty owners who have suffered financially but the situation has the potential to affect future business targeted by new CEO Jim Farley.


“It is a new day at Ford with new leadership and a more focused strategy, specifically including significant focus on the commercial end of the truck business," Gabrielsen said. "These F-250 and F-350 trucks are the volume leaders within the business-to-business commercial vehicle offering for Ford. And commercial business buyers are intensively focused on quality, reliability, durability and total cost of ownership of their fleets.

"So it would seem to be in Ford’s best interest to clean up and close out this unfortunate chapter in history on any last open lawsuits in this area so that they can focus purely on growing this mission critical segment without the lingering taint on the Super Duty brand.”

More:Ford knew Focus, Fiesta models had flawed transmission, sold them anyway
https://www.freep.com/in-depth/money/cars/ford/2019/07/11/ford-focus-fiesta-transmission-defect/1671198001/

More:US fraud prosecutors demand Ford Focus, Fiesta documents
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2019/11/06/ford-fiesta-focus-transmission-lawsuit-dps-6/2506025001/

More:Ford to pay millions to Focus, Fiesta owners in transmission settlement
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2020/01/25/ford-fiesta-focus-transmission-settlement-deal/4554381002/

9icetoo:

Although this talks about the ford 6.0L diesel engine, I get the picture.

Boocee:
Please do you have hub for Pontiac Torrent? If yes like how much will it cost to change mine? Thank you.

Boocee:
. It's AWD.
2CKDL63F366096646

radautoworks:


And the Focuses and Fiestas (articles at the end above), which all happen to be their most common models in each group. They are also likely to discontinue the Ford Edge Nigerians tout so much in the next couple of years as it's also lagging behind and has a myriad of issues. Nigerians don't realize that parts will no longer be available when that happens. When I say it people say I'm hating. What I SHOULD do is recommend those vehicles to everyone for the resulting business but my conscience won't let me.

https://fordauthority.com/2020/10/ford-edge-sales-numbers-figures-results-q3-2020/

sultaan:


The number do not always say exactly what is going on in the segment but show a trend based on several factors.
1. Covid season cause a reduced sales number compare to last year quarterly sales. Agreed
2. Some models like Edge and Highlander are new body styles so if they mess up the body like the Edge that looks more like Escape, sales number will drop because now it looks like a woman's car unlike the 2012 version. Believe it or not, women account for more suv sales
3. Palisade, and Telluride are new to the segment and taking sales away from others. Agreed
4. Grand Cherokee is in the last year of this current body style that has been used since 2011 so sales drop buyers will rather wait for next year new style. Not a big factor.
5. Passport, Venza, Blazer are all brand new models so they are positive. No, these are NOT new models
6. Murano, and Edge were the main competitors in that class until Passport and Blazer came back but the Murano shows a worse drop. What's killing Murano is Nissan's Alliance with Renault (unpopular in the US)-Mitsubishi (who also have terrible cars). Edge, we already covered.

If every year Toyota sells 300,000 units of Camry in the US, and Ford sells 150,000 unit of Fusion. Toyota sells 80 ,000 units is 4runner, but Ford sells 350,000 units of Explorer.
If I recommend users to buy a Camry and ignore Fusion, why can't I say buy Explorer and ignore 4Runner. The two are in different price segments. The Highlander falls in the explorer price segment and with it getting larger of late has been the correct car to compare. That being said, the Highlander's size is starting to cannibalize 4runner sales so they are going smaller
Those who buy when they are new are aware of the reliability so the value they see in some models is what I want our people to start seeing. That is EXACTLY what is killing ford

Subaru Outback and Forester are some of the best cars Agreed made but until we encourage our people to look at those models we keep wasting money on Toyota. Disagree. A Toyota is always a sure buy from a financial standpoint. Doesn't mean from a taste standpoint it would be my choice though.

ajbf:
Madam, good evening. @radautoworks
Kindly help out.
I scanned a Honda Stream 2001 engine.
It came up with p0340 code - camshaft sensor.
Like how much should I prepare for the repair?
Can you recommend mechanic in Ibadan ?
Any Honda car owner can equal be of help

sultaan:


Do you know if it's dirty or timing chain is stretched

Paulagada:
Good morning @radautoworks, my Toyota Corolla bank type's (2005 model) radiator is consuming too much water and I don't know where the water is going. Please help a brother.

ThatErha:


Three things come to mind here, I guess.

1. Possibly a blown head gasket.

2. Possibly a faulty radiator cap.

3. Possible leak in the coolant reservoir hose or coolant reservoir cap.

radautoworks:
We're back. Thank you for all your patience.

radautoworks:
We're back. Thank you for all your patience.

doctorgold:


Good afternoon and welcome back.
I have a scan code p2715 on my toyota corolla 2007.
When accelerating, it drags and revs up alot before changing gear. I have had a mechanic check transmission fluid quality and guage which was reported to be fine.
One even mentioned having to change a solenoid and bla bla bla.
What is your advice?