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Re: Debunking Car Myths by Ishilove: 8:55pm On Oct 27, 2020
weyreypey:

Treat with respect.
Don't start.
Re: Debunking Car Myths by weyreypey: 9:04pm On Oct 27, 2020
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Re: Debunking Car Myths by Grupo(m): 9:09pm On Oct 27, 2020
Ishilove:

Pontiac Vibe is not the only Pontiac product in the market. The most common in Nigeria, perhaps, but not the only product.

"Pontiac vibe, for instance,..."

The above were my exact words. I used for instance. I didn't mention it was the only Pontiac model in Nigeria or in the world.

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Re: Debunking Car Myths by naptu2: 9:32pm On Oct 27, 2020
Philadelphia:


Pontiac is never a speed demon.

Infact, it's only body-wise that it differs from Toyota.

Parts are very similar.


Grupo:


I was surprised to hear him call Pontiac speed demon.

Pontiac vibe, for instance, is just a Toyota matrix with a different badge. Everything is the same in the two cars.

And Toyota matrix is definitely not a speed demon.

That depends on the Pontiac you are referring to. Have you heard of the Pontiac TransAm (used in Smokey and the Bandit, Cannonball Run, etc), the Pontiac Firebird, etc?

When I was growing up in the 1970s and '80s Pontiacs were known for speed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZPalUHlxc

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Re: Debunking Car Myths by Bettycars(m): 9:41pm On Oct 27, 2020
weyreypey:
Toyota parts are cheaper than Benz parts... On the same class of vehicles...False!
Right on point
Re: Debunking Car Myths by Philadelphia: 10:47pm On Oct 27, 2020
naptu2:





That depends on the Pontiac you are referring to. Have you heard of the Pontiac TransAm (used in Smokey and the Bandit, Cannonball Run, etc), the Pontiac Firebird, etc?

When I was growing up in the 1970s and '80s Pontiacs were known for speed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZPalUHlxc

You shaa want to prove a point that is still invalid.

The Pontiac you are referring to (Firebird) is not in production and not what anyone in Nigeria ever thinks to buy. The maximum speed is even pegged at 165mph.
But even at that, the fastest Pontiac ever made; the GTO and 2009 Pontiac G8-GXP had a top speed of 175mph. Even the 2009 Pontiac G8-GXP does 0-60mph in 4.7 secs.

If you call that a speed demon, what will you call the Audi RS7 that does 0-60mph in 3.7s and gets to 202mph? Or is it the
Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat that still does 0 -60 in 3.7s and gets to 203mph?
Even the BMW M5 and Mercedes AMG continental do it slower but still faster than that Pontiac. The civic type R will chew that Pontiac and spit it out.

I still maintain that the Pontiac is never a speed demon.

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Re: Debunking Car Myths by naptu2: 10:53pm On Oct 27, 2020
Philadelphia:


You shaa want to prove a point that is still invalid.

The Pontiac you are referring to (Firebird) is not in production and not what anyone in Nigeria ever thinks to buy. The maximum speed is even pegged at 165mph.
But even at that, the fastest Pontiac ever made; the GTO and 2009 Pontiac G8-GXP had a top speed of 175mph. Even the 2009 Pontiac G8-GXP does 0-60mph in 4.7 secs.

If you call that a speed demon, what will you call the Audi RS7 that does 0-60mph in 3.7s and gets to 202mph? Or is it the
Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat that still does 0 -60 in 3.7s and gets to 203mph?
Even the BMW M5 and Mercedes AMG continental do it slower but still faster than that Pontiac. The civic type R will chew that Pontiac and spit it out.

I still maintain that the Pontiac is never a speed demon.


What a load of crap!

I repeat and it was quite clear in my post, the Pontiac Firebird was considered a speed demon in the 1970s and 1980s. How can you compare that with cars that are made at the moment? Does that even make sense to you? Are you thinking properly??

You said that it's never a speed demon, yet you have failed, totally failed, to prove that it was not considered a speed demon in the 1970s and '80s.

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Re: Debunking Car Myths by weyreypey: 10:55pm On Oct 27, 2020
Philadelphia:


You shaa want to prove a point that is still invalid.

The Pontiac you are referring to (Firebird) is not in production and not what anyone in Nigeria ever thinks to buy. The maximum speed is even pegged at 165mph.
But even at that, the fastest Pontiac ever made; the GTO and 2009 Pontiac G8-GXP had a top speed of 175mph. Even the 2009 Pontiac G8-GXP does 0-60mph in 4.7 secs.

If you call that a speed demon, what will you call the Audi RS7 that does 0-60mph in 3.7s and gets to 202mph? Or is it the
Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat that still does 0 -60 in 3.7s and gets to 203mph?
Even the BMW M5 and Mercedes AMG continental do it slower but still faster than that Pontiac. The civic type R will chew that Pontiac and spit it out.

I still maintain that the Pontiac is never a speed demon.

You no get respect... Read again where he said "when I was growing up in the 70s"

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Re: Debunking Car Myths by Philadelphia: 10:58pm On Oct 27, 2020
Ishilove:

My vehicle is a Pontiac Bonneville, not Vibe. It is a speed demon with the nose low to the ground and the back raised. It is built for speed.

As for the parts, go to the market and ask for them, then come back and give me feed back. I am changing the ignition box and I had to import it from US because it is nowhere to be found.

I know wetin I dey talk


Kingreign and Heavenlybang come and see this guy o. I guess he's asking for a race from you guys with his "speed demon".
Quick facts:
His car should be a 3.8L v6 and should be doing 205 hp. grin Meanwhile, see the screenshot below grin

Person wey dey use 2010 Camry v6 still know him limit and will not dare to call his car a speed lemon demon. You say your Pontiac Bonneville na wetin?

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Re: Debunking Car Myths by Philadelphia: 11:00pm On Oct 27, 2020
Ishilove:

Pontiac Vibe is not the only Pontiac product in the market. The most common in Nigeria, perhaps, but not the only product.

Tell me a model to be regarded to as a speed demon
Re: Debunking Car Myths by weyreypey: 11:01pm On Oct 27, 2020
Philadelphia:


Kingreign and Heavenlybang come and see this guy o. I guess he's asking for a race from you guys with his "speed demon".
Quick facts:
His car should be a 3.8L v6 and should be doing 205 hp. grin Meanwhile, see the screenshot below grin

Person wey dey use 2010 Camry v6 still know him limit and will not dare to call his car a speed lemon demon. You say your Pontiac Bonneville na wetin?

How you survive daily is a mystery with this your deliberate misunderstanding

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Re: Debunking Car Myths by kingreign(m): 11:08pm On Oct 27, 2020
miketayo:


[s]Benz is faster than bmw or audi of the same class, mclaren uses benz engine[/s],
The rest I agree but won't be easy.
You lie! Get your facts right.
Total bullocks!
Re: Debunking Car Myths by Philadelphia: 11:09pm On Oct 27, 2020
naptu2:





That depends on the Pontiac you are referring to. Have you heard of the Pontiac TransAm (used in Smokey and the Bandit, Cannonball Run, etc), the Pontiac Firebird, etc?

When I was growing up in the 1970s and '80s Pontiacs were known for speed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZPalUHlxc


This was your first post and you never said it was considered. You spoke as an "authority". Who buys a car that is no longer in production? So, let me compare my comparison in peace.

naptu2:


What a load of crap!

I repeat and it was quite clear in my post, the Pontiac Firebird was considered a speed demon in the 1970s and 1980s. How can you compare that with cars that are made at the moment? Does that even make sense to you? Are you thinking properly??

You said that it's never a speed demon, yet you have failed, totally failed, to prove that it was not considered a speed demon in the 1970s and '80s.


I won't do anymore research for you and since you don't know how to prove your point (you don't even have a valid point to prove sef) but only want to throw words, then I'd ignore you so you can use your Pontiac speed demon to speed to where you can buy sense.

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Re: Debunking Car Myths by kingreign(m): 11:10pm On Oct 27, 2020
Nathan2016:



A benz hater spotted.

Share myth and fact base on your experience not dis random BS
Swerve jare.

Go deal with your BS.
Re: Debunking Car Myths by kingreign(m): 11:11pm On Oct 27, 2020
justiniyke29:
wait did you actually put a v8 and fuel economy in the same sentence? Am not saying they are bad cars as i love them big v8 engines but they arent fuel sippers to me.
Quote me anywhere, a real life experience, a gx470 doesn't consume as much fuel as erroneously thought by folks.
Re: Debunking Car Myths by Philadelphia: 11:11pm On Oct 27, 2020
weyreypey:


How you survive daily is a mystery with this your deliberate misunderstanding

Another werey we dey disguise.
We know trolls when we see them.

You don troll Ishilove tire and you want to exchange banters with me. Don't worry, I won't give you the honor of a mention.
Re: Debunking Car Myths by naptu2: 11:19pm On Oct 27, 2020
Philadelphia:



This was your first post and you never said it was considered. You spoke as an "authority". Who buys a car that is no longer in production? So, let me compare my comparison in peace.




I won't do anymore research for you and since you don't know how to prove your point (you don't even have a valid point to prove sef) but only want to throw words, then I'd ignore you so you can use your Pontiac speed demon to speed to where you can buy sense.



grin grin grin

It's obvious that you know exactly what you are doing. Like the other guy said, you are deliberately misunderstanding what everybody is saying because you know that you can't prove any point.

Ishilove said that the Pontiac was a speed demon. You said that it can never be considered a speed demon. I said that it was considered a speed demon in the 1970s and '80s when I was growing up. You then started comparing a 1970s car with a 2010 car grin grin

You can keep fooling yourself, but 3 people here can clearly see what's happening and you are the only one that can't.

There's no need wasting any more time on you. grin

Goodbye.

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Re: Debunking Car Myths by CelestialSmash: 11:19pm On Oct 27, 2020
Philadelphia:


Kingreign and Heavenlybang come and see this guy o. I guess he's asking for a race from you guys with his "speed demon".
Quick facts:
His car should be a 3.8L v6 and should be doing 205 hp. grin Meanwhile, see the screenshot below grin

Person wey dey use 2010 Camry v6 still know him limit and will not dare to call his car a speed lemon demon. You say your Pontiac Bonneville na wetin?

Actually, Pontiac was an enthusiast brand and made plenty of fast cars in that time period.

Obviously a fast car in the 80's wouldn't be considered fast now.

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Re: Debunking Car Myths by CelestialSmash: 11:22pm On Oct 27, 2020
miketayo:


Benz is faster than bmw or audi of the same class, mclaren uses benz engine,
The rest I agree but won't be easy.

Blatantly false. An M5 absolutely smashes the E63s. Ditto an RS5 and C63s.

The AMG GT line is excellent, though.

Mclaren does not use a Mercedes engine, I'm not sure what you're talking about. It's Aston Martin that uses the Mercedes 4.0TT.
Re: Debunking Car Myths by weyreypey: 11:31pm On Oct 27, 2020
Philadelphia:


Another werey we dey disguise.
We know trolls when we see them.

You don troll Ishilove tire and you want to exchange banters with me. Don't worry, I won't give you the honor of a mention.
You lack respect. You kids of nowadays....
Re: Debunking Car Myths by weyreypey: 11:32pm On Oct 27, 2020
CelestialSmash:


Actually, Pontiac was an enthusiast brand and made plenty of fast cars in that time period.

Obviously a fast car in the 80's wouldn't be considered fast now.
Don't bother. An iddiot will always be one deliberately
Re: Debunking Car Myths by Philadelphia: 11:32pm On Oct 27, 2020
CelestialSmash:


Actually, Pontiac was an enthusiast brand and made plenty of fast cars in that time period.

Obviously a fast car in the 80's wouldn't be considered fast now.


This was the thread below:

Odunayaw:
What is your review of the Pontiac

Then Ishilove responded thus:

Ishilove:

Speed demon. Unfortunately the parts are very scarce in Nigeria and good workmen, even more scarce.

Obviously, you can clearly see here that ishilove was referencing the contemporary Pontiac that we see in Nigeria today.
Thus, the reason I affirmed and still affirm that "Pontiac is never a speed demon". Below was my exact message:
Philadelphia:


Pontiac is never a speed demon.

Infact, it's only body-wise that it differs from Toyota.

Parts are very similar.

Thereafter, one omo grandpa that was born before Queen Elizabeth started quoting ancient history.

From my quote, I used the verb "is" in its present tense not "was" as past tense as in "Pontiac is never a speed demon".
That's why I referenced modern cars and affirmed that the model mentioned by the omo grandpa is no longer in production. But grandpa wan prove invalid point and werey wey dey disguise cannot understand.

Simple English grammar o.

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Re: Debunking Car Myths by Ishilove: 12:59am On Oct 28, 2020
naptu2:





That depends on the Pontiac you are referring to. Have you heard of the Pontiac TransAm (used in Smokey and the Bandit, Cannonball Run, etc), the Pontiac Firebird, etc?

When I was growing up in the 1970s and '80s Pontiacs were known for speed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZPalUHlxc
My dear don't even bother arguing with anyone. When I'm in that vehicle I know how it performs once it enters a road without bumps or gallop. Tap it a little and it flies. cheesy

Once I get the ignition fixed I'm selling it angry
Re: Debunking Car Myths by Ishilove: 1:01am On Oct 28, 2020
Philadelphia:



This was the thread below:



Then Ishilove responded thus:



Obviously, you can clearly see here that ishilove was referencing the contemporary Pontiac that we see in Nigeria today.
Thus, the reason I affirmed and still affirm that "Pontiac is never a speed demon". Below was my exact message:


Thereafter, one omo grandpa that was born before Queen Elizabeth started quoting ancient history.

From my quote, I used the verb "is" in its present tense not "was" as past tense as in "Pontiac is never a speed demon".
That's why I referenced modern cars and affirmed that the model mentioned by the omo grandpa is no longer in production. But grandpa wan prove invalid point and werey wey dey disguise cannot understand.

Simple English grammar o.
Guy stop arguing for argument's sake. Just humbly accept your L and move on. We are all here to learn.
Re: Debunking Car Myths by Peppermintflav: 2:10am On Oct 28, 2020
Ishilove:

Guy stop arguing for argument's sake. Just humbly accept your L and move on. We are all here to learn.
Some people are here to argue. They don't want to learn. They have made up their minds not to reason with others.
Re: Debunking Car Myths by Peppermintflav: 2:37am On Oct 28, 2020
ivandragon:



Your analysis is better suited to acceleration where one object in motion is able to gain speed faster than another object in motion.

However, once both objects reach the same speed, then neither one can be faster than the other & whatever distance that existed between them before they reached that constant speed will also remain constant.

In essence, if a car is moving at 100km/ph & a man is somehow able to run at the same 100km/ph, the speed remains the same regardless of any other factors.
I started off by saying that it's correct on paper. 100km/h is same no matter the vehicle being used. I also agree with you that if a man can run 100km/h he will be on the same level with a car doing same speed.
Now where you fail to understand my point is where I said if identical cars have different tyre setup, if they level up side by side, no doubt they are doing the same speed but if the one that came with stock tyres is reading 100km/h on the speedometer the one with modified or bigger tyres would be showing a different reading on the speedometer.
We are on the same page. But sometimes things are not always what they seem.
Re: Debunking Car Myths by ZzZzzzzzzzzzzzz: 2:58am On Oct 28, 2020
amstamon:
See ,Una dey disturb my sleep na..
Abeg make Una lower abi na reduce una voice .
Na beg I dey beg pls. If sleep no catch una,sleep dey catch me o...
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
while you are trying to sleep. Make sure you don't wake me up again

Am I clear? Can you hear me loud and clear?
Re: Debunking Car Myths by amstamon: 7:15am On Oct 28, 2020
ZzZzzzzzzzzzzzz:
while you are trying to sleep. Make sure you don't wake me up again

Am I clear? Can you hear me loud and clear?
Aahhhh!!dis life no balance o,so there's a moniker that's zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?me just type am like freestyle o.abeg no vex .oya make I bribe u with one chilled bottle of plastic origin if u dey Lagos .ikotun .
Re: Debunking Car Myths by bisi16(m): 7:29am On Oct 28, 2020
femi4:
How many people dey drive civic
I used to own one. It never pulled.
Re: Debunking Car Myths by weyreypey: 7:39am On Oct 28, 2020
femi4:
How many people dey drive civic
A lot
Re: Debunking Car Myths by CelestialSmash: 8:25am On Oct 28, 2020
Myth: Mercedes Benz cars do not rollover in an accident.

Fact: That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

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Re: Debunking Car Myths by CelestialSmash: 8:29am On Oct 28, 2020
KingAzubuike:
Someone was arguing with me the other day that Mercedes Benz is a better brand than Audi and BMW. I just couldn't bring myself low to argue with such fellow.

Model for model, year for year, I'll pick a Hyundai Genesis over a Mercedes Benz ( S klasse, A klasse and other sedan category).

Hyundai try for their Genesis Series abeg. Damn!

This is a whole lot of nonsense. I guess you're talking about the Hyundai Genesis. Go sit down in an S Class of the same year and give me your report.

That said, Audi and BMW actually do certain things better than Mercedes. Audi has better build quality, BMW has better performance. Mercedes manages to merge the two effectively but doesn't do it as well.

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