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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by EngrSaks(m): 10:22pm On Nov 02, 2020
erico2k2:

you recon?it is not, I have seen this happen,have you not seen people returning back from abroad to 9ja to marry after spending 20 years abroad?

I guess that's where those of us here with experience can give proper advice to those coming in, so they know what to expect and the best way to sort out their plans...nigerians need to mentor more nigerians and not want to just outshine each other...or show off how good their lives are...

We need to Use our experience to advice the new guys so they dont have to make the same mistakes all over again because Last last no first place for life

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 10:36pm On Nov 02, 2020
erico2k2:

you are right but do not forget success is measured in different parameters between different people.just coming abroad can easily set your family life back by 20 years especially if you are female!

Curious to know how this affect the female gender

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by jay3012: 10:36pm On Nov 02, 2020
Please guys...someone that paid u.k tuition deposit recently how did you do it? Which bank offers the best exchange rate. I want to pay tuition this week pls help a brother
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 10:42pm On Nov 02, 2020
jay3012:
Please guys...someone that paid u.k tuition deposit recently how did you do it? Which bank offers the best exchange rate. I want to pay tuition this week pls help a brother

The student thread would be better to ask this

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by fatima04: 11:00pm On Nov 02, 2020
erico2k2:

you are right but do not forget success is measured in different parameters between different people.just coming abroad can easily set your family life back by 20 years especially if you are female!

Just curious, please expantiate further

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by erico2k2(m): 11:08pm On Nov 02, 2020
EngrSaks:


I guess that's where those of us here with experience can give proper advice to those coming in, so they know what to expect and the best way to sort out their plans...nigerians need to mentor more nigerians and not want to just outshine each other...or show off how good their lives are...

We need to Use our experience to advice the new guys so they dont have to make the same mistakes all over again because Last last no first place for life
yes this is true but you know, not everything you could explain on line some things need one on one mentoring,, see this little statment I made people want me to xplain on line grin grin grin grin

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by EngrSaks(m): 11:16pm On Nov 02, 2020
erico2k2:

yes this is true but you know, not everything you could explain on line some things need one on one mentoring,, see this little statment I made people want me to xplain on line grin grin grin grin

Explain o,me sef dey wait the explanation

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Mamatukwas: 11:27pm On Nov 02, 2020
justwise:

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That is the content of that link

Check Instablog9ja. Reports of the Soldiers brutality and the Governor issuing a statement about it as among their recent posts.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by erico2k2(m): 11:31pm On Nov 02, 2020
EngrSaks:


Explain o,me sef dey wait the explanation
wen dem tro baccky enter the country nah like howlong E go take B4 papi drop?
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by davide470(m): 11:32pm On Nov 02, 2020
EngrSaks:


I guess that's where those of us here with experience can give proper advice to those coming in, so they know what to expect and the best way to sort out their plans...nigerians need to mentor more nigerians and not want to just outshine each other...or show off how good their lives are...
Like opening accounts with all the "old school" banks and running away from the "new school" banks, yeah? grin

Cc: erico2k2
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by RalphJean: 11:47pm On Nov 02, 2020
whitley:
Good day, I have been following this tread and its eye opening, but I have a few area I wish to be enlightened on;
1) Am a pharmacist resuming my masters in formulation science by Jan at Greenwich, and I plan I leaving with my wife and son as dependents, but plan not to return to Nigeria at least not willingly, what's my best chance of not ok getting deported or expired visa.

Sit for the relevant exams, and get the certification that enables you to practice as a pharmacist in the UK.


2) since my wife will be on dependent, does her years in obtaining ILR start counting once we get there or only ~IF~ (big if) we can get a Tier 2 sponsor

Dependant-visa work counts towards the 10-year route. If your plan is the 5-year route, Hers (and yours) will only count while on a Tier-2 or another, not on a tier-4

3) Can I apply for the shortage list since pharmacist are listed on it from the UK??(STEM) and what are my chances of getting the visa.

You are a Nigeria-Qualified Pharmacist. You need to be a UK-qualified pharmacist

4) can one apply for Canada Express Entry from the UK if things goes south.

You can apply from ANYWHERE

Thanks eFamily

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by cooooooks(m): 1:37am On Nov 03, 2020
The strain on the relationship/marriage is probably not worth it.

You guys going to 2 different countries could help get you dual citizenship or choose the best option.

br33zee:
Hi guys, i'm just joining the thread and i suppose some members here live in the UK. Please im in a dilenma right now. I need advice:

I'm getting married to my fiance soon and of course interested to leave with her.
She's a nurse....processing her papers to migrate to the UK.

I, on the other hand, mechanical engineer but since graduation, I've been in the tech space...dealing with digital marketing projects, wordpress (website) and graphic design projects. Eventually, developed two startups. One is a digital marketing startup. The other is a partnership. Also, I'm currently rounding up my online masters with University of South Wales btw

My issue is...if i move with my fiance after marriage, what am i chances in the UK (She's a nurse)

Additionally, I have an option to move to Canada as well but its for schooling....meaning I'd be dependent for a while.
I personally have made researches and Nigerians rate Canada more than the UK when it comes to the opportunities for immigrants. I want to know if this is really significant to consider in this my situation because my fiance is not entirely keen on moving to canada cos their nursing registration process is more rigorous as she might also have to do some courses before working!

Unless i move to canada and she moves to Uk and we maybe link up later. I dont know how thats meant to work! Please help clarify life and career opportunities in the UK for someone with my track record. That might help me make a decision. Thanks guys
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by claremont(m): 2:07am On Nov 03, 2020
whitley:
Good day, I have been following this tread and its eye opening, but I have a few area I wish to be enlightened on;
1) Am a pharmacist resuming my masters in formulation science by Jan at Greenwich, and I plan I leaving with my wife and son as dependents, but plan not to return to Nigeria at least not willingly, what's my best chance of not getting deported or expired visa.
2) since my wife will be on dependent, does her years in obtaining ILR start counting once we get there or only ~IF~ (big if) we can get a Tier 2 sponsor
3) Can I apply for the shortage list since pharmacist are listed on it from the UK??(STEM) and what are my chances of getting the visa.
4) can one apply for Canada Express Entry from the UK if things goes south.

Thanks eFamily
I replied to a similar question in another thread and I listed the steps to take to get qualified. In summary, you will need to apply to the GPhC for approval to undergo the OSPAP conversion course. It's a highly intensive course and not everyone passes it. I would recommend Uni'Sunderland due to their low fees and low cost of living, but their version of the course is also one of the hardest to pass. I know one or two Nigerians who failed the course and had to repeat the whole year. You will be in the same class with your fellow Nigerians, Asians, Australians, Canadians, etc, everyone is there to do the conversion course.

When you have passed OSPAP, you will need to undergo pre-registration training with a provider in the UK. It's a 1 year paid job and it's fairly easy to get a training place. It's basically repeating the same internship training you did in Naija after uni. When you have been signed off by your tutor after the training, you will then need to sit and pass the GPhC licensing exam. You have 3 attempts at passing it. A third fail means the candidate is banned from practicing in the UK. The good news is the vast majority pass it on the first or second attempt. A second point is you have only 4 years from approval of the first stage to go through this whole pathway comprising of the 3 steps. This is a valid point because if you don't get qualified on/before the 4th year ending, you will have to start the process all over again. In terms of Tier 2 visa, I don't know much about it, but I do know a few people who went through the full pathway and are currently working on a visa. I don't know the visa they have.

TL;DR - Pass OSPAP, pass pre-registration training, pass GPhC licensing assessment. Start making money! grin

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Tinyemeka(m): 3:35am On Nov 03, 2020
Lexusgs430:


And this was me thinking I answered all your questions ? I shall now go and face the wall and raise both legs .............. Shame on me ....

grin grin grin

Jesu!

Kukuma kee me!!!!

No mind me if my responses seem to be outdated from the past o. I've been jejely following from page 1 (na this thread I dey take do pre-trip survival training). Sometimes I come across funny comments that I'll just read, laugh and continue scrolling. But then, craaaaazy pots like these, will force me to dobale.

I truly appreciate the matured level of responses from regular posters here, all the way from thread inception - the promptness of responses, varied viewpoints, handy tips, etc. Una too much. smiley

I say make I hail Una.

Lemme switch back to reader mode.

Una wehdon! smiley

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 3:36am On Nov 03, 2020
AirBay:


No sir, I clearly remember my bills excludes water bills and it was stated on the agreement BUT unfortunately I did not take the tenancy agreement papers with me when I left.

That tenancy agreement you left behind, is about to cost you £750.00........

Without this agreement, on what basis are you willing to base your arguments + evidence to back statement?....

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 3:39am On Nov 03, 2020
Tinyemeka:


grin grin grin

Jesu!

Kukuma kee me!!!!

No mind me if my responses seem to be outdated from the past o. I've been jejely following from page 1 (na this thread I dey take do pre-trip survival training). Sometimes I come across funny comments that I'll just read, laugh and continue scrolling. But then, craaaaazy pots like these, will force me to dobale.

I truly appreciate the matured level of responses from regular posters here, all the way from thread inception - the promptness of responses, varied viewpoints, handy tips, etc. Una too much. smiley

I say make I hail Una.

Lemme switch back to reader mode.

Una wehdon! smiley


Oga, in the midst of seriousness, best to infuse humour, sarcasm and outright rudeness............... cheesy

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Tinyemeka(m): 4:56am On Nov 03, 2020
Lexusgs430:



Oga, in the midst of seriousness, best to infuse humour, sarcasm and outright rudeness............... cheesy

LOL.

Has definitely been keeping the thread very lively all these years.

I've been awake since 2 am and it's almost 5am Naija time.

I swear you guys rock.
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Monmarri: 5:11am On Nov 03, 2020
Hello house my passport has expired but when I was filling the application form, they asked if the sponsor has a valid passport. I click "No" bc I can't submit an expired data page. Is this ok ? Is it compulsory to put the sponsor passport data page ? I noticed that when I put No , it was not included in my compusory document for checklist to be submitted. Bc why I put NO is bc my passport has expired and the process to renew it in UK takes a long time. With the questions that I got in the application form I was convinced to put NO

I don't have a valid passport, it just expired last month

in the question section for spouse, they said if the sponsor can not provide a valid passport, they should tick No. kindly find attached proof and advise. many thanks.

@Just wise , other guru and family members who can advise I will appreciate. Thank you

Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 5:40am On Nov 03, 2020
Tinyemeka:


LOL.

Has definitely been keeping the thread very lively all these years.

I've been awake since 2 am and it's almost 5am Naija time.

I swear you guys rock.


When basic amenities of life + extra curriculum activities can become actualized + small regular pepper dey roll in........ grin

Head dey kwarect............ wink

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Chukwuka16: 6:40am On Nov 03, 2020
Dear All,

Please if you know of anyone back home intending to come overseas to study - don't discourage such person(s). It has become imperative to say this considering the increased "attack" by Nigerians on Nigerians attempting to relocate overseas via the education route especially in this pandemic.

Recent events back in Nigeria have now shown me that indeed MOST people in Nigeria are 1 level away from poverty. 1 simple government policy and GOKADA was gone like puff! Protest simply gone awry and businesses across Nigeria lost trillions in days due to vandalism. Simple disagreement over payment platform (Lord!) between ASUU and FGN and students are still at home. Palliatives hoarded despite hunger in the land. Soldiers and security agencies continuing their oppression of harmless civilians. The whole country is on autopilot and everyone is just doing what they like - this is a precursor to chaos.

Young people in the UK are going to be worst hit (so they say) by the coronavirus (they are being called the lost generation). Didn't do their GCSE's, lost the fun of going to university (no sophomore experience) and locked in to study online and banned from having raves/parties. These are the issues that young folks in the UK are contending with (imagine!). In Nigeria, their contemporaries are at home, forced to contend with SARS and other security agencies hell bent on decimating them, forced to act as electoral officers during elections, sent to distant and unsafe locations in the name of NYSC, killed without any national outcry (we've even become accustomed to such deaths), unable to access cheap start up loans (don't be deceived with CBN's N75 bn so called loan scheme), can't access forex etc. What then is the essence of living if a young person can't maximise their potentials.

Please encourage those who can sponsor themselves to leave the country as soon as possible especially if they are YOUNG. It is only the living that can talk of potential and maximising such. People shouting investments in Nigeria and high RoI are not being honest. I run businesses in Nigeria and yes, the RoI is really encouraging (especially in the agriculture sector), but what is the benefit of making profits if I have to spend it on providing everything (road, security, water, sanitation, healthcare, electricity etc.) for myself and family? What is the essence of having Naira if CBN will not allow me freely move my money overseas when I like? What is the essence of high RoI if cancer or liver/kidney issue or one serious sickness can practically make you POOR? Please don't shout insurance before thinking about the NHS and its inexhaustible resources and affordability.

The essence of living and being comfortable is the liberty to engage in activities without being hindered by unnecessary issues. Days ago, my wife and I felt we should experiment pounded yam (we can't come and go and "keel" ourselves) - time was 10pm. All she needed to do was microwave soup, put the yam in the pot to boil, dump it in the blender and by 10.50pm we were eating pounded yam with egusi soup. We didn't turn on a generator nor did we have to be bothered about gas/kerosine/light being available to boil the yam. I'm in an environment that works and that enables me to function well - Nigeria as it stands now CANNOT offer me that opportunity.

Let them try. It may not work out here but at least they tried. Let them also experience sanity and see what it is like to live in a sane environment. Let them understand how things and systems work in the developed world. Don't deprive anyone the opportunity of experiencing the "abroad" life. It has now become a necessity which every YOUNG person must experience in order to disabuse their already corrupted mindset and stimulate productive thinking.

With regards to information, please don't hoard information from them. Load them with information. Inform them about the newly launched PSW visa and the fact that they can apply for startup visas and innovation visas (£50K though) and tech nation visas (IT focused) and even register companies here in the UK when on the PSW visa. Let them know that there are loads of grants/funding and innovative competitions and events routinely being organised by the UK government that they can exploit. I'm not a British citizen but the UK govt has sponsored me multiple times overseas on trade missions (fully funded). No body even asked me what visa I was on!

The prevalence of poverty and multitude of unempowered YOUNG people back in Nigeria is TOO MUCH. Graduates in their tens of millions and no job and still living on handouts from parents and guardians and friends at 35! We can't compete with the Asians here if we don't have the number. We are less than 350K in the UK compared to the millions of Indians and Pakistanis. Why should Asians be doing my taxes and selling me African food and servicing my car and also my financial advisor when such funds can be recycled among Nigerians? We can't develop Nigeria if we don't have the financial power to drive investments back home and create jobs for the teeming population. Asians are buying up property like no man's business - I mean young Asians less than 30 years have portfolios of property in high brow areas and we are here talking about Nigerians staying back home? Ah, let's have conscience o.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 7:10am On Nov 03, 2020
Chukwuka16:
Dear All,

Please if you know of anyone back home intending to come overseas to study - don't discourage such person(s). It has become imperative to say this considering the increased "attack" by Nigerians on Nigerians attempting to relocate overseas via the education route especially in this pandemic.


But Nigerians are something else sha .... why is everything that you dont want to hear called an attack or seen as attack. Why isnt it called a constructive feedback or caution because the road ahead might be very rough due to the pandemic , too much uncertainty especially with the UK job market which should be the ultimate destination

Yesterday I saw two comments although now hidden , calling names even insulting, justwise because he said he didnt think coming now is wise and someone even put enemy of progress

This is the same justwise who has spent years, time and effort putting student through visa inquiry. I found nairaland back in 2010 when we were doing my brother master application and it was justwise comments that guided us in the end to end process. 2010 is a whopping 10 years ago, till date he still takes his time to give students guidance and yet he enemy of progress ... our people matter tire me jare .

Anyone anybody wants to do go ahead ....

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Chukwuka16: 7:36am On Nov 03, 2020
LagosismyHome:


But Nigerians are something else sha .... why is everything that you dont want to hear called an attack or seen as attack. Why isnt it called a constructive feedback or caution because the road ahead might be very rough due to the pandemic , too much uncertainty especially with the UK job market which should be the ultimate destination

Yesterday I saw two comments although now hidden , calling names even insulting, justwise because he said he didnt think coming now is wise and someone even put enemy of progress

This is the same justwise who has spent years, time and effort putting student through visa inquiry. I found nairaland back in 2010 when we were doing my brother master application and it was justwise comments that guided up in the end to end process. 2010 is a whopping 10 years ago, till date he still takes his time to give students guidance and yet he enemy of progress ... our people matter tire me jare .

Anyone anybody wants to do go ahead ....

There is no uncertainty in the UK job market. You are talking of uncertainty - THINK NIGERIA (that's worse than uncertain). Don't be too fixated with the stats and all. There is more behind the scene than meets the eye. The hysteria is usually pushed by the media to influence stock market. Also, there will always be expendables in any crisis - that's life!

In this pandemic I've moved from Tier 2 to Tier 2 to Global Talent Visa. My wife's joined me and I've changed accommodation. The only inconvenience I have faced is travelling for biometrics on both occasions as I needed my BRP urgently. I worked in a HEI in the Humber region for 4 months in this pandemic before resigning without stepping foot there. I've resumed a new job in another HEI and won't be stepping foot there till way into Q2 next year when the dust has settled. I still run my businesses both here and in Nigeria.

The UK will be releasing another set of bailouts to SMEs and individuals in the coming days/months to keep the economy afloat. The furlough scheme has helped countless Nigerians on Tier 2 visa still remain in their jobs. Students in the UK can now work unlimited hours in NHS related jobs (care jobs) which have high vacancies. Amazon continues to open warehouses and is need of huge number of staff. IT jobs are picking up pace and people are changing career faster than a blink. What is differentiating peoples experiences during this pandemic is KNOWLEDGE. Those who know are making a killing.

It is in this same pandemic that consultants from BCG are collecting over £6K per day and SMEs are collecting government contract left, right and centre. Let the students come in here. Chaos is always the best time to exploit opportunities. The UK MUST spend its way out of this pandemic. They have just started.

I do not hold forte for Justwise, however, we must learn to be REALISTIC. Nigeria is not offering HOPE to YOUNG people and if coming here even if it is for 3 years (study + 2 years PSW) is what will give them some semblance of sanity, let them come. HOPE is what keeps us living. If Nigeria can't afford you that and you can emigrate for studies, please "Japa".

Lastly, time is very important. At a certain age in life, some opportunities become meaningless. What's the excitement of owning a new car at 60 years or having a masters at 50? Rather than wasting away in Nigeria, let those folks emigrate and "struggle" in a country that has safety nets and offers them HOPE.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by justwise(m): 7:58am On Nov 03, 2020
LagosismyHome:


But Nigerians are something else sha .... why is everything that you dont want to hear called an attack or seen as attack. Why isnt it called a constructive feedback or caution because the road ahead might be very rough due to the pandemic , too much uncertainty especially with the UK job market which should be the ultimate destination

Yesterday I saw two comments although now hidden , calling names even insulting, justwise because he said he didnt think coming now is wise and someone even put enemy of progress

This is the same justwise who has spent years, time and effort putting student through visa inquiry. I found nairaland back in 2010 when we were doing my brother master application and it was justwise comments that guided us in the end to end process. 2010 is a whopping 10 years ago, till date he still takes his time to give students guidance and yet he enemy of progress ... our people matter tire me jare .

Anyone anybody wants to do go ahead ....

LagosismyHome don't waste your time, time will tell.

Last year this same Chukwuka was discouraging people from running away from Nigeria, today he is singing another tune. SARS did not start last month.


Chukwuka16:
Ok Sir.

You know what's funny though - most of the white/caribbean folks I know are relocating to Africa/Asia. Every now and then, I see them registering one local company in Mozambique, Sierra-Leone, Ghana and Nigeria! Was in the country late March/April and discovered South Africans coming into the country to carry out market survey on the feasibility of their business (in the energy sector - inverters and all that)!

Africa is the next cash cow, because all attention is shifting to her to make sure she doesn't derail global climate change agenda. We are talking serious money wrt climate change, adaptation, electrification etc. This is worth £billions in the long term. What are we doing about it? Nothing. UK is strategically developing policies to ensure that her foreign aids through DFID, DEFRA and BEIS contribute to net zero emissions by 2050. This is an open door to data scientists and engineers and agriculturists to start building capacity for windfall because local capacity must be built. These information are online and free to access but alas, my people perish for lack of knowledge.

Shey Nigeria is too hard, so we all should move away? What happens when they come into our country and milk it dry and then get it working? We would start running back abi? Nigerians have never been known to have an orderly system. Shey Canaan Land is run by angels? (We can talk about the issue of inequality and morality of the investments over beer), but isn't it functioning? I've been there and was humbled that such a place does exist. What of the Jehovah's Witness HQ in Edo State (Igieduma), is it not here in Nigeria? No power outage for years, clean, constant electricity, order and all.

I know Nigeria sucks. I know. It hurts to be saying this, but life in Nigeria can really get hard. I was there. But let's keep emotions aside, what value do you think you will add to the country you want to migrate to? What skills do you have that will wow them and incentivise these guys to sponsor you? If you are not coming in as a professional, the alternative is good old fashioned hard work (not mental work).

Sincerely, if the truth be told, the life of an average Nigerian in the abroad is an average one. Life shouldn't be average especially when matched with our potentials. And the daily dose of discrimination, forget it!


Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Chukwuka16: 8:13am On Nov 03, 2020
justwise:


LagosismyHome don't waste your time, time will tell.

Last year this same Chukwuka was discouraging people from running away from Nigeria, today he is singing another tune. SARS did not start last month.





Justwise, one of the beautiful thing about life is HINDSIGHT.

Nairaland serves as a diary for me where I actually assess my thinking at different stages of my life and contrast it with the prevailing political economy. That is why I write and post on Nairaland. I started this during my PhD and it was here on this platform that I met my wife! In the future, I will compile my Nairaland posts as part of my autobiography.

I will be insincere to actually advise anyone now with Nigeria's climate to remain back there if one is YOUNG and not living the best life. If I have turnover of £1m annually from my Nigeria business, Nigeria will be my defacto home - until then, I keep working.

Don't be too quick to take my posts out of contest, read through the write up and understand where I'm coming from. The UK has given my some excellent platforms that have created opportunities for me in recent times. I am everyday discovering that new talents that I never knew I had. That is what the RIGHT environment does.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Chinlov: 9:05am On Nov 03, 2020
Good morning good people. Pls can anyone help me with the info on best way to get my Naira into my UK account urgently. Thanks a lot
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 9:48am On Nov 03, 2020
Chinlov:
Good morning good people. Pls can anyone help me with the info on best way to get my Naira into my UK account urgently. Thanks a lot

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