TrebleChamp:
So what do you suggest we do with an under-performing people earning huge wages?

What he is saying is that it is not that easy to just sell such players. Other clubs are not stupid. Finding a club to accept to pay their wages is not that straightforward especially for our clueless management.

eph12:

Sancho or nothing!!! If its not Sancho, the board is not supporting Ole apparently

Ziyech already agreed to join Chelshit in February long before the Sancho new gathered steam. It was less about Sancho and more about the propensity of our board to be slow in all things.

Chelshit signed players like Pulisic and Ziyech 6 months ahead of the season but our board prefers social media relevance and drawn out transfer hype so they can sign the player on deadline day and drag out a piano for him to play.

Though Amad is a young chap, but I am having high hope on him to excel at United as a RW.


Forms are on sales now.......

Oasis007:
Though Amad is a young chap, but I am having high hope on him to excel at United as a RW.


Forms are on sales now.......

This one na real gambling. How many games of his have you seen?

TrebleChamp:
So what do you suggest we do with an under-performing people earning huge wages?

They're under a contract, you can perhaps help the club payoff their contract?

Or you can help them negotiate with a club to sign an under performing player that's on £250k per week.

Or you can calm down and accept players go through a bad patch.

afrodoc2:


Ziyech already agreed to join Chelshit in February long before the Sancho new gathered steam. It was less about Sancho and more about the propensity of our board to be slow in all things.

Chelshit signed players like Pulisic and Ziyech 6 months ahead of the season but our board prefers social media relevance and drawn out transfer hype so they can sign the player on deadline day and drag out a piano for him to play.

Are you sure it was less about Sancho for some people here? I mean nobody else can improve the squad the way Sancho was destined to do according to some reports here

Martial has a contract till 2024. He's going nowhere

eph12:

Are you sure it was less about Sancho for some people here? I mean nobody else can improve the squad the way Sancho was destined to do according to some reports here

We were addressing larride who was not happy that we didn't look at Ziyech. You were the one who then connected it to Sancho.

What i am saying is that Sancho had nothing to do with us not signing Ziyech. By the time Chelshit signed Ziyech way back in February we were not in negotiation for Sancho and there weren't even any strong links.

We missed out on Ziyech because our board is too slow and clueless to sign players early. Woodward prefers to drag out transfer news for months and then sign players late. Hopefully with Amad Traore that will change.

eph12:

Are you sure it was less about Sancho for some people here? I mean nobody else can improve the squad the way Sancho was destined to do according to some reports here

Also Ziyech's strongest point which is his long range crossing from deep might be wasted in this our team in which Cavani is the only striker who has box movement.

afrodoc2:


We were addressing larride who was not happy that we didn't look at Ziyech. You were the one who then connected it to Sancho.

What i am saying is that Sancho had nothing to do with us not signing Ziyech. By the time Chelshit signed Ziyech way back in February we were not in negotiation for Sancho and there weren't even any strong links.

We missed out on Ziyech because our board is too slow and clueless to sign players early. Woodward prefers to drag out transfer news for months and then sign players late. Hopefully with Amad Traore that will change.

I know who and what you're addressing na. No mind me, was having a dig at some of us here. They know themselves

afrodoc2:


Also Ziyech's strongest point which is his long range crossing from deep might be wasted in this our team in which Cavani is the only striker who has box movement.

I'm even confused on how our main strikers are still lacking in this with Ole as the coach.

eph12:

I know who and what you're addressing na. No mind me, was having a dig at some of us here. They know themselves

We can't get every player and we also can't predict how a player will integrate into a new league and culture but Ziyech so far has been good.

What we should focus on now is improving the players we have now and of course improving our squad with quality acquisitions going forward.

Afrodoc2 have you heard anything about Greenwood? He wasn’t included in the last matchday squad and was omitted by Southgate after he had a talk with OGS.

Is it injury or discipline? Cos he played the UCL game and suddenly he’s being frozen out.

E go pain me if this boy doesn’t reach his potential o.

afrodoc2:


We can't get every player and we also can't predict how a player will integrate into a new league and culture but Ziyech so far has been good.

What we should focus on now is improving the players we have now and of course improving our squad with quality acquisitions going forward.

Yup

We need the team to try more crosses. This means more players arriving in the box instead of hanging around outside the box waiting for short passes. It doesn't even always have to be the full backs doing the crosses all of the time. Our attackers are getting too predictable trying to force those silly quick passes around the opponent box with their laughable poor movements

afrodoc2:


We can't get every player and we also can't predict how a player will integrate into a new league and culture but Ziyech so far has been good.

What we should focus on now is improving the players we have now and of course improving our squad with quality acquisitions going forward.

Exactly.

Im still a bit surprised at how Ziyech is settling down in the EPL. I thought he wasn’t strong enough for the league physically and mentally.

So, far he is proving me wrong. However, everybody looks good when their team is playing well. The real test will come when they hit a rough patch.

He’s been impressive so far.

eph12:

I'm even confused on how our main strikers are still lacking in this with Ole as the coach.

First of all even though Amaka's movement was good as a striker he was no Cavani. After yesterday/s game Michael Owen said Cavani had the best box movement he had seen in recent football. Players with lots of skill or lots of pace rarely develop such movement when they are young because they never needed it.

If you check the list of player with such movement you get Ruud, Inzaghi, Fowler, Crespo e.t.c None is similar to Rashford or Martial. I think Greenwood being younger and a more natural striker than those two has the best chance of learning from Cavani.

afrodoc2:


What he is saying is that it is not that easy to just sell such players. Other clubs are not stupid. Finding a club to accept to pay their wages is not that straightforward especially for our clueless management.

True, we need to get them out of the club somehow. Even if it means paying part of their wage for a stipulated time or we just cancel their contract. It's so annoying watching Pogba, Martial, Rashford and others play rubbish every match day while still cashing out big every week. We watch Vardy, Kane, Son, Sallah, Mane, Jota to name but a few on probably lesser wage putting in consistent performance for their clubs...

TrebleChamp:
True, we need to get them out of the club somehow. Even if it means paying part of their wage for a stipulated time or we just cancel their contract. It's so annoying watching Pogba, Martial and now Rashford and others play rubbish every match day while still cashing out big every week. We watch Vardy, Kane, Son, Sallah, Mane, Jota to name but a few on probably lesser wage putting in consistent performance for their clubs...

If you cancel a contract you still have to pay all the wages for the rest of the contract so it sorta defeats the purpose.

Oasis007:
Though Amad is a young chap, but I am having high hope on him to excel at United as a RW.


Forms are on sales now.......

I need one too, also a huge fan of the lad. I pray he's got that strong desire to succeed and does succeed..

eph12:

Yup

We need the team to try more crosses. This means more players arriving in the box instead of hanging around outside the box waiting for short passes. It doesn't even always have to be the full backs doing the crosses all of the time. Our attackers are getting too predictable trying to force those silly quick passes around the opponent box with their laughable poor movements

Bruno’s first goal shows an intelligence that he hasn’t displayed before.

Look at how he saw the space in front of him, anticipated the cross falling in between the two defenders and then attacking it appropriately.

It’s the same ish with the second goal. Rashford also attacked the space between the two CBs, just that Bruno’s cross wasn’t very accurate and ended in the back of the net.

If Rashford had connected it would’ve been 3 headed goals in 2 games- which is a massive improvement from the last 100 games or so. The attackers need to make the right movements in the box and the crosses have to be accurate.

What changed between then and now? The arrival of Cavani. And maybe Telles. Those dudes are really learning from him, I think.

P.S: Luke Shaw has had 2 assists in his last 2 games. Both headers. Was still shitty for large parts of both games tho.

melodyogonna:

They're under a contract, you can perhaps help the club payoff their contract?

Or you can help them negotiate with a club to sign an under performing player that's on £250k per week.

Or you can calm down and accept players go through a bad patch.

Bad patch for how long now, we have been calming down with the likes of Martial serving us shit for 5 plus years. The club should cancel his contract make him piss off, we don't need lazy, unserous players in the team abeg. How much Bayern pay Lewandowski per week sef?

dubylhover:


I don't understand.. Unless its not the same game we watched cos he was very good in the 1st half that I watched

Jadon has always been justified by his stats

It's because of his stats Dortmund raised his asking price Astronomically.

If he doesn't keep up his stats this season

Dortmund can't sell him any higher, no more how well he plays in a game, you get?

CapitalCee:


I have been saying this for years. If na him dortmund say make we bring 120m , quarell for no dey.

I go pay 150m sef

larride:
I’ll not forgive our useless board for not buying Ziyech from Ajax.

so we must buy all d players in d world before we can succeed. Take a look at our current squad n tell me how many teams r really better dan us one on one( including man city n Liverpool) on a good day.We just v a dumb coach.

Leyqute:


Bruno’s first goal shows an intelligence that he hasn’t displayed before.

Look at how he saw the space in front of him, anticipated the cross falling in between the two defenders and then attacking it appropriately.

It’s the same ish with the second goal. Rashford also attacked the space between the two CBs, just that Bruno’s cross wasn’t very accurate and ended in the back of the net.

If Rashford had connected it would’ve been 3 headed goals in 2 games- which is a massive improvement from the last 100 games or so. The attackers need to make the right movements in the box and the crosses have to be accurate.

What changed between then and now? The arrival of Cavani. And maybe Telles. Those dudes are really learning from him, I think.

P.S: Luke Shaw has had 2 assists in his last 2 games. Both headers. Was still shitty for large parts of both games tho.

I noticed that.

Shaw now attempts more cross than ever now, telles is surely giving him one or two tips.

engrelvis:
so we must buy all d players in d world before we can succeed. Take a look at our current squad n tell me how many teams r really better dan us one on one( including man city n Liverpool) on a good day.We just v a dumb coach.

We have a dummmmb coach and inconsistent players

For the last 3 games now rashford has been headless
The only consistent players we have this season are Bruno, de gae and Fred(when he plays as a box to box midfielder)

Won't we be better off with Cavani and telles in our starting lineup

I no wan use eye see martial again oh

An attack of in form rashford Cavani Greenwood with Bruno behind them and a certain telles whipping in crosses will be deadly.

PS Bruno is our highest goal scorer and also high assister in all competitions this season for fvck sake

afrodoc2:


First of all even though Amaka's movement was good as a striker he was no Cavani. After yesterday/s game Michael Owen said Cavani had the best box movement he had seen in recent football. Players with lots of skill or lots of pace rarely develop such movement when they are young because they never needed it.

If you check the list of player with such movement you get Ruud, Inzaghi, Fowler, Crespo e.t.c None is similar to Rashford or Martial. I think Greenwood being younger and a more natural striker than those two has the best chance of learning from Cavani.

Rashford and Martial are not too old to learn something na. If much emphasis is placed on it and time invested in that skill, they should pick it up faster than we think. It doesn't have to be perfect, just much better than what they currently have

KingAlabi:

We have a dummmmb coach and inconsistent players

For the last 3 games now rashford has been headless
The only consistent players we have this season are Bruno, de gae and Fred(when he plays as a box to box midfielder)

Honestly Fred v impressed me d most.His energy on d field is amazing ( I dey suspect self).Our dumb coach is responsible for their inconsistencies. Is pure individual efforts n talents dats helping us.

Leyqute:


Bruno’s first goal shows an intelligence that he hasn’t displayed before.

Look at how he saw the space in front of him, anticipated the cross falling in between the two defenders and then attacking it appropriately.

It’s the same ish with the second goal. Rashford also attacked the space between the two CBs, just that Bruno’s cross wasn’t very accurate and ended in the back of the net.

If Rashford had connected it would’ve been 3 headed goals in 2 games- which is a massive improvement from the last 100 games or so. The attackers need to make the right movements in the box and the crosses have to be accurate.

What changed between then and now? The arrival of Cavani. And maybe Telles. Those dudes are really learning from him, I think.

P.S: Luke Shaw has had 2 assists in his last 2 games. Both headers. Was still shitty for large parts of both games tho.

I hope Telles is available for our next match. I need him and Cavani to start so I can really see what they're about.

eph12:

Rashford and Martial are not too old to learn something na. If much emphasis is placed on it and time invested in that skill, they should pick it up faster than we think. It doesn't have to be perfect, just much better than what they currently have

They are not too old but Greenwood is younger than them by far and a more natural box player.

TrebleChamp:
Bad patch for how long now, we have been calming down with the likes of Martial serving us shit for 5 plus years. The club should cancel his contract make him piss off, we don't need lazy, unserous players in the team abeg. How much Bayern pay Lewandowski per week sef?

Martial had 33 GA last season btw