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Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 7:36pm On Nov 09, 2020
haddeylium:
When there are several books that discussed god. why did you choose the Bible?
I don't read only the bible...there are a thousand and 1 books to improve my spiritual and physical life....both foreign and local authors ...I watch YouTube videos too...

It is all to improve knowledge of God.
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 7:40pm On Nov 09, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
You've nullified the highlighted and the bolded by saying "Moses never existed" so that makes both highlighted and bolded meaningless! cheesy
So if I read a superman comic and superman says, " do not be scared to travel by air, it is still the safest way to travel "... So because superman is not real, does he mean what he says in the comic or movie is wrong ?..
My friend educate yourself..
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by haddeylium(m): 7:50pm On Nov 09, 2020
sonmvayina:
I don't read only the bible...there are a thousand and 1 books to improve my spiritual and physical life....both foreign and local authors ...I watch YouTube videos too...
It is all to improve knowledge of God.
Accumulation of knowledge is useless if it's of no benefit.
Can you highlight briefly the usefulness of those books you have been reading and interpretation you're giving them in regards to the problem the world is facing?
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:01pm On Nov 09, 2020
Whatever Superman says in comic story will never become a rule for everyone and definitely not to be taken serious by someone who feels Superman is not real nah? cheesy




sonmvayina:
So if I read a superman comic and superman says, " do not be scared to travel by air, it is still the safest way to travel "... So because superman is not real, does he mean what he says in the comic or movie is wrong ?..
My friend educate yourself..
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 8:15pm On Nov 09, 2020
haddeylium:
Accumulation of knowledge is useless if it's of no benefit.
Can you highlight briefly the usefulness of those books you have been reading and interpretation you're giving them in regards to the problem the world is facing?
Where do I start ?..it is vast..I had a simple remedy for corona virus infection...it worked for me and two of my friends...(I think I contacted the virus in a hospital when I took my dad for dialysis...).

I won't wish the experience on my enemy..I thought I had died....but I told my wife to boil ..dongoyaro leaves and its back, moringa leaves, mango leaves,cashew leaves and my secret ingredient..I was fit as a fiddle after 3 days...and aldo the tea to drink for detox, that is for my physical life...I put the info out there, and the people who tried it..attested to it..


I also learnt some good yoga practice and ways to activate my chackras...which some part of mankind has been teaching and practicing for ages..

Giving your life to a dead jew, with no evidence that he actually existed is plain stupid..with the brain we are endowed with..don't you think so?
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 8:17pm On Nov 09, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Whatever Superman says in comic story will never become a rule for everyone and definitely not to be taken serious by someone who feels Superman is not real nah? cheesy
But it does not mean it is a lie..men wrote the comic and bible..they can make their characters say things in the book, ...it is meant for us to read it and learn the messages in them , not worship the characters...don't you think so?
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:27pm On Nov 09, 2020
You read and i also read, you need not tell me what i should or shouldn't do with what i read nah!
Guy i can choose to do anything as in ANYTHING i feel like doing with whatever i read since i'm fully aware that it's not real.
So anybody can decide what they're going to do with what they read joh! cheesy




sonmvayina:
But it does not mean it is a lie..men wrote the comic and bible..they can make their characters say things in the book, ...it is meant for us to read it and learn the messages in them , not worship the characters...don't you think so?
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 8:31pm On Nov 09, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
You read and i also read, you need not tell me what i should or shouldn't do with what i read nah!
Guy i can choose to do anything as in ANYTHING i feel like doing with whatever i read since i'm fully aware that it's not real.
So anybody can decide what they're going to do with what they read joh! cheesy

I concur...so don't come here and scream at the top of your voice that jesus is real and try tooth and nail to convince people,who know too well that he is just a character in a book..

Learn the messages and see how you can employ them in your day to day life...
Chikena
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 8:34pm On Nov 09, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
You read and i also read, you need not tell me what i should or shouldn't do with what i read nah!
Guy i can choose to do anything as in ANYTHING i feel like doing with whatever i read since i'm fully aware that it's not real.
So anybody can decide what they're going to do with what they read joh! cheesy
I concur...so don't come here and scream at the top of your voice that jesus is real and try tooth and nail to convince people,who know too well that he is just a character in a book..

Learn the messages and see how you can employ them in your day to day life...
Chikena
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by haddeylium(m): 8:56pm On Nov 09, 2020
sonmvayina:
Where do I start ?..it is vast..I had a simple remedy for corona virus infection...it worked for me and two of my friends...(I think I contacted the virus in a hospital when I took my dad for dialysis...).
I won't wish the experience on my enemy..I thought I had died....but I told my wife to boil ..dongoyaro leaves and its back, moringa leaves, mango leaves,cashew leaves and my secret ingredient..I was fit as a fiddle after 3 days...and aldo the tea to drink for detox, that is for my physical life...I put the info out there, and the people who tried it..attested to it..
I also learnt some good yoga practice and ways to activate my chackras...which some part of mankind has been teaching and practicing for ages..
Giving your life to a dead jew, with no evidence that he actually existed is plain stupid..with the brain we are endowed with..don't you think so?
Would it make you stupid if you decided to share this concoction you got from a book with your friends?

I've witnessed how the Bible is solving the world major problem 'RACISM', uniting people of different backgrounds to have genuine love among themselves.
This Book has helped to disarmed more than 8.7millon people and never to go to war and kill people.
How it has help this individual to unselfishly use their time and resources to help and encourage others .

I like it that you helped your friends. Do you think I should share how beneficial this book has been to my friends too?
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:30pm On Nov 09, 2020
I will preach about God's Kingdom that's coming through Jesus our Master, Lord and King, it's you that will go out there and preach what you know.
There is freedom of speech, expression and worship. I won't force you and you can't force me, Jesus is Lord whether you like it or not, interested persons will suffice from all the parts of the earth. Period! smiley


sonmvayina:
I concur...so don't come here and scream at the top of your voice that jesus is real and try tooth and nail to convince people,who know too well that he is just a character in a book..

Learn the messages and see how you can employ them in your day to day life...
Chikena
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 10:01pm On Nov 09, 2020
haddeylium:
Would it make you stupid if you decided to share this concoction you got from a book with your friends?

I've witnessed how the Bible is solving the world major problem 'RACISM', uniting people of different backgrounds to have genuine love among themselves.
This Book has helped to disarmed more than 8.7millon people and never to go to war and kill people.
How it has help this individual to unselfishly use their time and resources to help and encourage others .

I like it that you helped your friends. Do you think I should share how beneficial this book has been to my friends too?
Did you read the book from the beginning or the portion your pastor points out for you...

If you want to see people who live in peace and harmony go to the bush men of the Congo...
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by haddeylium(m): 10:09pm On Nov 09, 2020
sonmvayina:
Did you read the book from the beginning or the portion your pastor points out for you...
If you want to see people who live in peace and harmony go to the bush men of the Congo...
I'll always be humbled by your wisdom cheesy (sarcastic)

You highlighted the benefits you got from your book and how it helped your friend... I didn't direct you the isolation center in your state wink

I highlighted mine that is working and how I wished to help my friends and neighbors and you're throwing up... seriously? cheesy
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by dappa071: 10:14pm On Nov 09, 2020
sonmvayina:
Did you read the book from the beginning or the portion your pastor points out for you...

If you want to see people who live in peace and harmony go to the bush men of the Congo...
All the problems that are tearing your world apart, a group of 8.7million people have solved all of them using the BIBLE!

Racism & ethnic/tribalistic hatred solved—John 13:34-35, Acts 10:34-35

Class distinctions problem solved.(rich not specially favoured amongst us)—James 2:1-4

Nothing like political divisions in our midst since we're all neutral and supporting God's Kingdom.(Matthew 6:33, John 17:14-16, 18:36)

Love for Jehovah God, our brothers and sisters in the faith and also for our neighbour has motivated us never to life up weapons or go to war against ANYBODY.—Isaiah 2:2-4, Matthew 26:52, Mark 12:29-31

So Mr sonmvayina, unless you have something better to offer than the Bible, make it known now or shut your mouth because your philosophies and fairytales are only getting worthless by the day!
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 8:35am On Nov 10, 2020
dappa071:
All the problems that are tearing your world apart, a group of 8.7million people have solved all of them using the BIBLE!

Racism & ethnic/tribalistic hatred solved—John 13:34-35, Acts 10:34-35

Class distinctions problem solved.(rich not specially favoured amongst us)—James 2:1-4

Nothing like political divisions in our midst since we're all neutral and supporting God's Kingdom.(Matthew 6:33, John 17:14-16, 18:36)

Love for Jehovah God, our brothers and sisters in the faith and also for our neighbour has motivated us never to life up weapons or go to war against ANYBODY.—Isaiah 2:2-4, Matthew 26:52, Mark 12:29-31

So Mr sonmvayina, unless you have something better to offer than the Bible, make it known now or shut your mouth because your philosophies and fairytales are only getting worthless by the day!
Lol..I don't think you have a long memory at all, so before the slave traders brought the bible to your ancestors they where not living in a peaceful society..
You no get sense at all...
Answer my question , why does god want a son ?
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 8:36am On Nov 10, 2020
haddeylium:
I'll always be humbled by your wisdom cheesy (sarcastic)

You highlighted the benefits you got from your book and how it helped your friend... I didn't direct you the isolation center in your state wink

I highlighted mine that is working and how I wished to help my friends and neighbors and you're throwing up... seriously? cheesy
Only difference, yours is a fairy tale...mine is practicable..yours give false hope..
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by GeneralDae: 9:33am On Nov 10, 2020
sonmvayina:
Only difference, yours is a fairy tale...mine is practicable..yours give false hope..
See wahala, but you just admitted the old testament is a fairy tale too nah. Is it a practicable fairy tale?
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by haddeylium(m): 9:49am On Nov 10, 2020
sonmvayina:
Only difference, yours is a fairy tale...mine is practicable..yours give false hope..
Those rewards I highlighted are what that fairytale book made possible and I'm enjoying presently grin

Just as I didn't condemn you for sharing the concoction you excepted from your book with your friends; It would be fair I share that benefits with my friends and neighbors too
Don't you think? cheesy
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by haddeylium(m): 9:53am On Nov 10, 2020
GeneralDae:
See wahala, but you just admitted the old testament is a fairy tale too nah. Is it a practicable fairy tale?
"practicable fairy tale" cheesy

You're minding that clown
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by dappa071: 10:31am On Nov 10, 2020
sonmvayina:
Lol..I don't think you have a long memory at all, so before the slave traders brought the bible to your ancestors they where not living in a peaceful society..
You no get sense at all...
Answer my question , why does god want a son ?
So you're to naive to know that war has always occurred home and abroad in the distant past abi? grin grin

Mr man there's no need for insults. Fact here is that everyone can see the benefits/usefulness of the Bible in modern day times by Jehovah's Witnesses.

But meanwhile, the 99.9% of mankind who DO NOT regard the Bible as anything are always in chaos, left without real hope for the future, divided over minute things, scared that their nextdoor neighbours[who doesn't believe in the Bible too] might attack and kill them because of money issues etc

Well that's the world you live in where everyone wants to set standards of good and bad for himself instead of following the Bible standards.
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 11:04am On Nov 10, 2020
haddeylium:
Those rewards I highlighted are what that fairytale book made possible and I'm enjoying presently grin

Just as I didn't condemn you for sharing the concoction you excepted from your book with your friends; It would be fair I share that benefits with my friends and neighbors too
Don't you think? cheesy
When you lie to achieve that, do you really think that is fair ?
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 11:07am On Nov 10, 2020
GeneralDae:
See wahala, but you just admitted the old testament is a fairy tale too nah. Is it a practicable fairy tale?
" How is Do not commit adultery a fairy tale?..I said, I read them and learn from them..it is like a lamp for my journey..Not worship the characters in them..like you are doing.the creator does not need a son, he is omnipresent and all knowing and all powerful...

Do you understand now?
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by GeneralDae: 11:19am On Nov 10, 2020
sonmvayina:
" How is Do not commit adultery a fairy tale?..I said, I read them and learn from them..it is like a lamp for my journey..Not worship the characters in them..like you are doing.the creator does not need a son, he is omnipresent and all knowing and all powerful...

Do you understand now?
If you have the freedom to do what you want with the so called fairy tales of the Jewish Bible, then why can't others do what they want with the so called fairy tales of the Christian Bible? Perhaps they worship fairy tale jesus (so called) rather than fairy tale Yahweh ( so called). Perhaps the character of jesus is given to them as a benchmark for the character of God.
Have you seen God before? I'm sure not. If you haven't seen God before and cannot see or understand God, then you have to start from somewhere. You start from what you can relate to, the jews had a humanlike Yahweh with human characters in their fairy tale, perhaps the Christian chose the jesus character to represent God instead and not the Yahweh character.
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 11:26am On Nov 10, 2020
GeneralDae:
If you have the freedom to do what you want with the so called fairy tales of the Jewish Bible, then why can't others do what they want with the so called fairy tales of the Christian Bible? Perhaps they worship fairy tale jesus (so called) rather than fairy tale Yahweh ( so called). Perhaps the character of jesus is given to them as a benchmark for the character of God.
Have you seen God before? I'm sure not. If you haven't seen God before and cannot see or understand God, then you have to start from somewhere. You start from what you can relate to, the jews had a humanlike Yahweh with human characters in their fairy tale, perhaps the Christian chose the jesus character to represent God instead and not the Yahweh character.
God NEVER approved or ORDERED IT...That is my point..it is not needed, it is Not GODS idea from the Jewish Tanakh, the same way you dismiss Mohammed as a fraud, is the same way jesus is a fraud..it was created by the romans/Greeks. They added it at the end of the Jewish to deceive ..just as you claim Mohammed is a deceiver...
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by haddeylium(m): 11:44am On Nov 10, 2020
sonmvayina:
When you lie to achieve that, do you really think that is fair ?
Is it fair that you get yourself and friends cured from coronavirus with the recipe you got from a fairytale book? cheesy

I'm presenting to you 8.7millon people that are cured from being 'Racist' and with vow never to carry weapon and kill their fellow men. You're asking if that's fair? cheesy

You're a Joke!
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by GeneralDae: 11:58am On Nov 10, 2020
sonmvayina:
God NEVER approved or ORDERED IT...That is my point..it is not needed, it is Not GODS idea from the Jewish Tanakh, the same way you dismiss Mohammed as a fraud, is the same way jesus is a fraud..it was created by the romans/Greeks. They added it at the end of the Jewish to deceive ..just as you claim Mohammed is a deceiver...
Which God are you talking about here? and how do you know what he approved or what he didn't?
Moses never existed according to you( and probably Abraham too), so who made this God known to the jews and to you?
Why should we take this Jewish God seriously? Besides this Jewish Yahweh you are talking about behaves like a human. He is a character the ancient jews could relate to as a God. In other words, the ancient jews were indirectly worshipping a Humanlike Emperor Warlord.
You yourself agreed the book is a fairy tale, if the book is a fairy tale, isn't Yahweh a fairy tale? and if Yahweh is a fairy tale, why should we listen to him on who or whom not to worship?
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 1:28pm On Nov 10, 2020
GeneralDae:
Which God are you talking about here? and how do you know what he approved or what he didn't?
Moses never existed according to you( and probably Abraham too), so who made this God known to the jews and to you?
Why should we take this Jewish God seriously? Besides this Jewish Yahweh you are talking about behaves like a human. He is a character the ancient jews could relate to as a God. In other words, the ancient jews were indirectly worshipping a Humanlike Emperor Warlord.
You yourself agreed the book is a fairy tale, if the book is a fairy tale, isn't Yahweh a fairy tale? and if Yahweh is a fairy tale, why should we listen to him on who or whom not to worship?
The bible is not about god or yaw eh, it is about us, how we relate with ourselves and with nature..so as to live in harmony and learn to live with situations we can't change...God simply means conciouseness, it has different names in different society...same consciousness different nomenclature..it is not peculiar to the Jew alone....when some jews got to Egypt, they discovered that the Egyptians already worship same God under the name of Ra and in Babylonia, under the name of Marduk...it is the same God the Yoruba reverence as Eledumare and the igbo as chukwu..

But my point is the creator or the God the Jews are talking about is Antichrist...
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 1:30pm On Nov 10, 2020
haddeylium:
Is it fair that you get yourself and friends cured from coronavirus with the recipe you got from a fairytale book? cheesy

I'm presenting to you 8.7millon people that are cured from being 'Racist' and with vow never to carry weapon and kill their fellow men. You're asking if that's fair? cheesy

You're a Joke!
Must you lie to achieve it....just tell people, don't do it..and give them reasons why it is wrong...Not give them false hope that they will live in a better world or in paradise in the future...
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 1:32pm On Nov 10, 2020
GeneralDae:
Which God are you talking about here? and how do you know what he approved or what he didn't?
Moses never existed according to you( and probably Abraham too), so who made this God known to the jews and to you?
Why should we take this Jewish God seriously? Besides this Jewish Yahweh you are talking about behaves like a human. He is a character the ancient jews could relate to as a God. In other words, the ancient jews were indirectly worshipping a Humanlike Emperor Warlord.
You yourself agreed the book is a fairy tale, if the book is a fairy tale, isn't Yahweh a fairy tale? and if Yahweh is a fairy tale, why should we listen to him on who or whom not to worship?
Christianity has no root in Judaism or the old testament..
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 1:36pm On Nov 10, 2020
dappa071:
All the problems that are tearing your world apart, a group of 8.7million people have solved all of them using the BIBLE!

Racism & ethnic/tribalistic hatred solved—John 13:34-35, Acts 10:34-35

Class distinctions problem solved.(rich not specially favoured amongst us)—James 2:1-4

Nothing like political divisions in our midst since we're all neutral and supporting God's Kingdom.(Matthew 6:33, John 17:14-16, 18:36)

Love for Jehovah God, our brothers and sisters in the faith and also for our neighbour has motivated us never to life up weapons or go to war against ANYBODY.—Isaiah 2:2-4, Matthew 26:52, Mark 12:29-31

So Mr sonmvayina, unless you have something better to offer than the Bible, make it known now or shut your mouth because your philosophies and fairytales are only getting worthless by the day!
So if somebody had not written that God has said thou shall not kill, you would not have figured it out that it is wrong
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by DappaD: 2:58pm On Nov 10, 2020
sonmvayina:
So if somebody had not written that God has said thou shall not kill, you would not have figured it out that it is wrong
If someone takes the life of your loved one, what's stopping you from taking the life of that person or his own loved one?
Shey from your own standpoint, it would be right to retaliate and kill abi? That's what I mean by you setting your standards for yourself.

You want to tow this path again abi?
Okay let's go—who told you that committing fornication, adultery and idolatry is wrong? Where did they write it in your human constitutions and laws?
Re: Why Did God Want A Son ? by sonmvayina(op): 5:15pm On Nov 10, 2020
DappaD:
If someone takes the life of your loved one, what's stopping you from taking the life of that person or his own loved one?
Shey from your own standpoint, it would be right to retaliate and kill abi? That's what I mean by you setting your standards for yourself.

You want to tow this path again abi?
Okay let's go—who told you that committing fornication, adultery and idolatry is wrong? Where did they write it in your human constitutions and laws?
Experience, I tried it when I was younger and deep inside me I knew I had done something wrong.my conscience kept judging me..so I desist from doing it again ...I am talking about fornication . as for adultery, I no fit do that kind thing..another man wife, wey e don pay bride price and them don pour drink from ground..my custom and tradition forbids it....it leads to death or madness.
Then idolatry means worshipping anything other than the creator or going through any God to get to him..and the only way to worship our creator is to obey his natural and spiritual laws..
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