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Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Jackmj(m): 12:28pm On Nov 15, 2020
Positivepoint:


Bro hausa is spoken i worked in north central and schooled in MX niger, Served in Markurdi benue, visited kogi ve both igbira and igala friends. Kwara hausa is spoken

of course with the way you're putting it Hausa is also spoken in Lagos too
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Bkayyy: 12:29pm On Nov 15, 2020
LukasPodolski:

that the Agbada is originally Yoruba attire.

The idiot thinks that the "Yoruba copied Agbada from Hausa" (without any proven evidence) but not the other way round like "Hausa copied Agbada from yoruba" (which I don't even care about)


is the head tie not even different? we use FILA while in the picture above, they, Hausa used a special type of head tie.


OLORIBURUKU
So these people are yorubas.
You don't know that yorubas were naked before the invasion of fulani.
Its like you don't understand sarcasm

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Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Niceman12(m): 12:38pm On Nov 15, 2020
gidgiddy:


So you dont know that the reason why Hausa is the lingua franca in the North is because of the many years of conquest of the minorities there before the white man came?

Igbos on the hand were never interested in conquest

If conquest is the determinant of a language that peoples speak, then Fulani would have been the lingua franca of north.

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Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Bkayyy: 12:40pm On Nov 15, 2020
Niceman12:


If conquest is the determinant of a language that peoples speak, then Fulani would have been the lingua franca of north.
Fulani were already speaking Hausa before the conquest of uthman Dan fodio. He even did his rallying call in Hausa and did more than 100 literal works in Hausa. So fulani were actually the ones that spread the hausa language not the Hausas. For example if you want to discuss with a fulani man in Kwara and you don't speak Hausa, my brother forget it you are wasting your time.
Ask anybody that have lived in Kwara
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Niceman12(m): 12:43pm On Nov 15, 2020
NNEWIsuper:
If igbo was accommodating just like Hausa it would have been a lingual fraca in the whole old Eastern region of Nigeria made of SE and SS. It doesn't mean the minorities won't speak and know their dialect but just like how Hausa is the lingual franca in the North West and North East and even some parts of North Central like plateau, nasarawa speak Hausa as lingual franca but it doesn't mean the minorities there don't know and speak their own dialect.
Rather what we see is even the ones who are actually igbo denying their route.. Well you won't blame them because igbo itself is too divided and not accommodating. This is a loss for the igbos because ordinarily they should be influential tribe in Nigeria politics which would have even helped reshape the business environment of Igbos

The only reason is because Igbo people don't like speaking their language. They so much accept English as superior language. If not of that, I assure you not only people in SS or SE, but even in other parts of Nigeria.
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Bkayyy: 12:47pm On Nov 15, 2020
Niceman12:


The only reason is because Igbo people don't like speaking their language. They so much accept English as superior language. If not of that, I assure you not only people in SS or SE, but even in other parts of nihlgeria
So phyno, flavour and Nollywood films speak Arabic. And you identify Igbos in your market when they speak English plus how the northern mobs identify Igbo in the North then was first starting up a conversation in Japanese
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Positivepoint(m): 12:53pm On Nov 15, 2020
Jackmj:


of course with the way you're putting it Hausa is also spoken in Lagos too


Well hausa and yoruba influenced each other cultures by war and trade for hundreds of years by that time most tribe of the east where animist and naked living in tiny colonies without organised society.
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Bkayyy: 12:55pm On Nov 15, 2020
Positivepoint:



Well hausa and yoruba influenced each other cultures by war and trade for hundreds of years.
Which influence does yoruba have on hausa. Tell me just one
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by NNEWIsuper: 12:57pm On Nov 15, 2020
Niceman12:


The only reason is because Igbo people don't like speaking their language. They so much accept English as superior language. If not of that, I assure you not only people in SS or SE, but even in other parts of nihlgeria
You may be right, since we igbos travel a lot
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Niceman12(m): 12:57pm On Nov 15, 2020
Bkayyy:

So phyno, flavour and Nollywood films speak Arabic. And you identify Igbos in your market when they speak English plus how the northern mobs identify Igbo in the North then was first starting up a conversation in Japanese

Oga, I grow up in MTD at Zaria amidst Igbo people. Most of my best friends at home and in my primary and Secondary schools are igbos then. But they hardly speak Igbo even among themselves. It's always English.

I don't know of those in south but here, they hardly speak the language.
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Bkayyy: 1:00pm On Nov 15, 2020
Niceman12:


Oga, I grow up in MTD at Zaria amidst Igbo people. Most of my best friends at home and in my primary and Secondary schools are igbos then. But they hardly speak Igbo even among themselves. It's always English.

I don't know of those in south but here, they hardly speak the language.
How do you know that they are igbos. Haven't you heard about Niger Delta people before?
We might look similar and cook, dress and behave the same way but these days all man is for himself. Plus we bear the same names but they don't see themselves as Igbos.
And you seriously expect somebody that is born and bred in Zaria to be speaking Igbo up and down like emigrated from SE that day. It's like expecting an Arab born in England to speak more Arabic than he speaks English in England
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Niceman12(m): 1:16pm On Nov 15, 2020
Bkayyy:

How do you know that they are igbos. Haven't you heard about Niger Delta people before?
We might look similar and cook, dress and behave the same way but these days all man is for himself. Plus we bear the same names but they don't see themselves as Igbos.
And you seriously expect somebody that is born and bred in Zaria to be speaking Igbo up and down like emigrated from SE that day. It's like expecting an Arab born in England to speak more Arabic than he speaks English in England

They're my friends, I spent more time with them than my siblings how could I not know their tribe. Then I don't even have Hausa friends except at school.

There are Yoruba Muslims who live among Hausa people in Zaria who are still speaking their language among themselves. Same applies to Nupe and other minorities unlike igbos.

It's not like they can't speak Igbo, they can. They only choose to speak English.
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by LukasPodolski: 1:28pm On Nov 15, 2020
Bkayyy:

So these people are yorubas.
You don't know that yorubas were naked before the invasion of fulani.
Its like you don't understand sarcasm
The word Agbada is even a Yoruba word, how can a sensible fellow say we copied something that is originally ours? What is the Hausa name for the attire?

The first picture is Obasanjo together with Jimmy Carter, the former American president in Aso Oke/Aso ofi.

Aso Ofi/Aso oke is the traditional Yoruba fabric.

Picture two is a clear photo or Agbada o'ni aso oke/aso ofi

We use FILA while in crappy picture you posted, the men wore what Muslims called "LAWANI"

the third picture is Agbada sewed with a modern African fabric.

Dunderhead head everywhere.

Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Positivepoint(m): 1:39pm On Nov 15, 2020
Bkayyy:

Which influence does yoruba have on hausa. Tell me just one

Anko, pumo �
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by LukasPodolski: 1:41pm On Nov 15, 2020
Bkayyy:

Fulani were already speaking Hausa before the conquest of uthman Dan fodio. He even did his rallying call in Hausa and did more than 100 literal works in Hausa. So fulani were actually the ones that spread the hausa language not the Hausas. For example if you want to discuss with a fulani man in Kwara and you don't speak Hausa, my brother forget it you are wasting your time.
Ask anybody that have lived in Kwara
And lastly, Fulani are not visible in Kwara South and Kwara central.

Even in Kwara central which has a little touch of Fulani (through the Emirate), you can't enter Ilorin and be speaking Fulani, who will respond to you?
More than 60% of Ilorin indigenes even find it very difficult to express themselves in English/Pidgin not to talk of Fulani.

The Yoruba spoken in Ilorin is the funniest in Yorubaland, because it's very raw, not poshy and they don't fake it..

So tell me anywhere in Kwara South/central where you would find Fulani speakers (including Ilorin)

The little fulani in Ilorin have embrace Yoruba culture, there is no touch of Fulani in the city of Ilorin except the Gambari area (where I pass through almost every week) even in Gambari, the language there is Yoruba... You can't enter Gambari and be speaking fulbe/fufulde.

Well let's see if Ilorin Emirate would still exist after Abdul rasaq second tenure.
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by LukasPodolski: 1:44pm On Nov 15, 2020
Bkayyy:

Which influence does yoruba have on hausa. Tell me just one
Which influence does Hausa have on Yoruba?
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Enwhen(m): 2:03pm On Nov 15, 2020
Niceman12:


Hausa language is generally spoken in Niger state except some gbagyi areas. I don't know of kwara and benue though.


Not true at all....Niger State donot have Hausa as their lingua franca , they speaks nupe and gwari( gbaggy)...
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Enwhen(m): 2:06pm On Nov 15, 2020
Positivepoint:


Bro hausa is spoken i worked in north central and schooled in MX niger, Served in Markurdi benue, visited kogi ve both igbira and igala friends. Kwara hausa is spoken



You don't understand what we are saying ... Hausa is spoken in Mile12, Idi araba , fagba in Lagos State , but Hausa is not Lagos State lingua franca ...


Benue, Kogi, Niger , Kwara doesn't have Huasa as their lingua franca
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Positivepoint(m): 3:16pm On Nov 15, 2020
Enwhen:




You don't understand what we are saying ... Hausa is spoken in Mile12, Idi araba , fagba in Lagos State , but Hausa is not Lagos State lingua franca ...


Benue, Kogi, Niger , Kwara doesn't have Huasa as their lingua franca

Ok I get what u re saying
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Bkayyy: 9:02pm On Nov 15, 2020
LukasPodolski:

And lastly, Fulani are not visible in Kwara South and Kwara central.

Even in Kwara central which has a little touch of Fulani (through the Emirate), you can't enter Ilorin and be speaking Fulani, who will respond to you?
More than 60% of Ilorin indigenes even find it very difficult to express themselves in English/Pidgin not to talk of Fulani.

The Yoruba spoken in Ilorin is the funniest in Yorubaland, because it's very raw, not poshy and they don't fake it..

So tell me anywhere in Kwara South/central where you would find Fulani speakers (including Ilorin)

The little fulani in Ilorin have embrace Yoruba culture, there is no touch of Fulani in the city of Ilorin except the Gambari area (where I pass through almost every week) even in Gambari, the language there is Yoruba... You can't enter Gambari and be speaking fulbe/fufulde.

Well let's see if Ilorin Emirate would still exist after Abdul rasaq second tenure.
Is Ilorin East not also part of kwara south? Ilorin East has the highest established fulani settlement in the whole of Kwara, infact they use camels as means of transport there.
And don't think of lying to me, I know Kwara very well and most traders learnt hausa while trading in Ilorin because the fulani only care about Hausa not English
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Bkayyy: 9:04pm On Nov 15, 2020
LukasPodolski:

The word Agbada is even a Yoruba word, how can a sensible fellow say we copied something that is originally ours? What is the Hausa name for the attire?

The first picture is Obasanjo together with Jimmy Carter, the former American president in Aso Oke/Aso ofi.

Aso Ofi/Aso oke is the traditional Yoruba fabric.

Picture two is a clear photo or Agbada o'ni aso oke/aso ofi

We use FILA while in crappy picture you posted, the men wore what Muslims called "LAWANI"

the third picture is Agbada sewed with a modern African fabric.

Dunderhead head everywhere.

So me buying suit and giving it an Igbo name will automatically change it from being an European clothing to igbo one.
Look below and see where you got your dressing from

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Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by LukasPodolski: 8:37am On Nov 16, 2020
Bkayyy:

Is Ilorin north not also part of kwara south? Ilorin North has the highest established fulani settlement in the whole of Kwara, infact they use camels as means of transport there.
And don't think of lying to me, I know Kwara very well and most traders learnt hausa while trading in Ilorin because the fulani only care about Hausa not English
There is nothing like Ilorin north, idiot.

we only have Ilorin east, Ilorin South, Ilorin west and some part Ilorin falls in Asa.

And Ilorin city falls in Kwara Central not Kwara South.

this is what happens when you spend 20hours/day on radio Biafra, Empty brain.

a demented ibo trying to rewrite another man's history.
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by LukasPodolski: 8:41am On Nov 16, 2020
Bkayyy:

So me buying suit and giving it an Igbo name will automatically change it from being an European clothing to igbo one.
Look below and see where you got your dressing from
this picture didn't proof anything.

firstly this is different from our own Agbada.

secondly, what does this picture proof? eh?

idiot.
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Jomonix: 8:44am On Nov 16, 2020
The Igbo is the most accommodation tribe in Nigeria. They are only taken for granted because their world view does not allow for conquest of other people. Igbo believe in live and let live. One way to impose Igbo is through conquest an it is not in their nature. Hence our neighbours should count themselves lucky that their lands were not forcefully occupied.
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by orisa37: 9:02am On Nov 16, 2020
You are right.. Wike speaks Igbo. With a common Language, BIAFRA is "SO-SAY".
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Don1987(m): 9:03am On Nov 16, 2020
NNEWIsuper:
If igbo was accommodating just like Hausa it would have been a lingual fraca in the whole old Eastern region of Nigeria made of SE and SS. It doesn't mean the minorities won't speak and know their dialect but just like how Hausa is the lingual franca in the North West and North East and even some parts of North Central like plateau, nasarawa speak Hausa as lingual franca but it doesn't mean the minorities there don't know and speak their own dialect.
Rather what we see is even the ones who are actually igbo denying their route.. Well you won't blame them because igbo itself is too divided and not accommodating. This is a loss for the igbos because ordinarily they should be influential tribe in Nigeria politics which would have even helped reshape the business environment of Igbos
why didn't you asked why old Midwestearn region are not speaking Benin lingual franca today as foolishly asked. if you understand the history of south south and south east regions will not asked this question. the hate for igbos will lead you to early grave if you dont stop it now. mind you i am from Delta State

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Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Bkayyy: 9:04am On Nov 16, 2020
LukasPodolski:

There is nothing like Ilorin north, idiot.

we only have Ilorin east, Ilorin South, Ilorin west and some part Ilorin falls in Asa.

And Ilorin city falls in Kwara Central not Kwara South.

this is what happens when you spend 20hours/day on radio Biafra, Empty brain.

a demented ibo trying to rewrite another man's history.
It was a typo, I meant Ilorin East. The home of Fulanis.
You seriously think you can insult the Fulanis out of their permanent settlement in Ilorin east.
Sometimes you people think that wishes is the greatest arsenal in life. Go to Ilorin east and see them jejely living in their mud houses and riding camels up and down
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by sapientia(m): 9:12am On Nov 16, 2020
Op is a complete anti-igbo Clown

Check his topics.

I always check it when I see stupid funny topics
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by Bkayyy: 9:24am On Nov 16, 2020
LukasPodolski:

this picture didn't proof anything.

firstly this is different from our own Agbada.

secondly, what does this picture proof? eh?

idiot.
I don't know why the truth attracts insult from men of lower understanding.
So if I bring suit and make the jacket shorter it will automatically become an Igbo attire.
My friend think.
Now back to ibn Rashid words that the conquered adopts the conquerors dressing, language, motto and religion. Your precious Agbada was adopted from the hausa baban Riga which you can confirm from this link that was compiled by your fellow yoruba. You can't change history my dear.
Hausa is a superior ethnicity from where you people are. Which is the reason they don't see you people as threat. They even gave you guys Islam you can't lead prayers where a fulani man is.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agbada

Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by ABOVEDELAW: 10:03am On Nov 16, 2020
WHAT IS YOUR TRIBE?
BIGGESThead6:
No individual, group or Tribe in South South, wants to associate themselves with IGBO.
Re: If Igbo Was Liberal And Accommodating SE And SS Will Have Igbo Lingual by LukasPodolski: 12:00pm On Nov 16, 2020
Bkayyy:

It was a typo, I meant Ilorin East. The home of Fulanis.
You seriously think you can insult the Fulanis out of their permanent settlement in Ilorin east.
Sometimes you people think that wishes is the greatest arsenal in life. Go to Ilorin east and see them jejely living in their mud houses and riding camels up and down
at first it's Ilorin north inside Kwara South which doesn't exist.

now it's Ilorin east lmao, unfortunate fellow.

I never knew that Ilorin east which houses places like Alalubosa, Sango, magaji Are, iponrin, agbeyangi, Oke Ose, ile-Apa is now fulani enclave... hahaha.

why not kuku accept that you were wrong instead of further disgracing your useless generation?

When did Ilorin east, a Metropolitan part of the city of Ilorin started making use of Camels as mode of transportation?

Ilorin east and West makes up the urban area of Ilorin, so when did Camels and mud houses started being a thing in Ilorin? lmao.

the jihadist who conquered Ilorin settled down in Gambari, an area where you would hardly see someone speak Pidgin/English not to talk of Fulani.

only Ilorin South has buses where you would see Fulani nomads in FuFU, looking for pastures, the same way you would see them in Anambra, Enugu, Ebonyi, Abia and Imo buses, you should have use Anambra or Enugu as an example in your earlier comment instead of using Kwara.

and since you imaginary fulani settlement in Kwara doesn't speak another language except fulfulde, why was there no dedicated program for them on Kwara state owned broadcasting mediums like Kwara TV, radio Kwara, nta Ilorin, or how do govt interact with your imaginary fulani brothers in Kwara?

Kwara is my home, you don't talk shit, if you continue to peddle falsehood about my state, your entire family will perish IJN, leave Kwara state alone.

I know Kwara South and Central like the back of my hand.

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