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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by Alfred74: 8:00pm On Nov 24, 2020
thonyman:


Most of Gazzuzz competitors turned to Baba40 apologist on this case, they will push Baba40 close to harming himself before he realise he is being used.

Hmmmm! He has gone into hiding,he who comes to equity must come with clean hands. I bet the dead engine he advertised as running smooth on his Facebook,he won't give a day warranty on,never ever.

Set of Competitors wen never fit wash der boxers well,na those once be Competitors grin

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by 9icetoo(m): 8:02pm On Nov 24, 2020
HeavenlyBang:


Lol, you can pull an engine in 2-3 hours.
Careful, else he will call you a mechanic. He thinks it takes donkey years to remove a 2004 corolla engine. Something that will leave that bay before he finishes hot amala and ewedu with chilled bottle of heineken.
Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by HeavenlyBang(m): 8:06pm On Nov 24, 2020
ZIMDRILL:


i think we are saying the same thing

but its either me or you who missed a point

if Gazzuzz had reconditioned the engine, am sure he wasnt going to give the guy 24hrs to bring the engine back, he would have had confidence with his job on the recon engine and am sure he would be glad to take it back and rebuilt again and sell again.

When i asked Gazzuzz what he did on the engine to warrant his guarante he didnt answert but came with another angle, he was now saying that engine model has defect from the manufacturer, meaning he is now blaming someone which is the manufacturer but when he sold the engine he never shared that information with the customer.

From what the customer says he what he was given is not what he was shown

This what scrapyard do here, you buy engine its at your own risk but they wouldnt sell a non running engine No but if the engine fails, they wouldnt give you a refund but ask you to bring it back while you get another replacement.

only those who who engine rebuilts are the one who normally give you a warranty because they actually did the rebuilt,

Unfortunately for Gazzuzz this engine didnt last that long (based on the facts presented) of which it put him on the corner because he also know nothing about the history of the engine. For me thats too risky to give a gurantee



Guy, you just dey talk complete, utter rubbish. I wonder how this thing you're saying makes any sense in your head.

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by HeavenlyBang(m): 8:08pm On Nov 24, 2020
9icetoo:

Careful, else he will call you a mechanic. He thinks it takes donkey years to remove a 2004 corolla engine. Something that will leave that bay before he finishes hot amala and ewedu with chilled bottle of heineken.

E no dey hard dem. Dem don too call me mechanic and car dealer I come dey ask myself why I no go learn those two work. undecided

I've had an engine pulled in front of me in like an hour, I'm not sure why they seem to think that 24 hours isn't enough.

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by naijapips04: 8:19pm On Nov 24, 2020
Kingdemu:
You're a fool. What stopped you from taking it back within the 3 month grace period ab initio? And for someone who stays 15mins away from Gazzuzz workshop you mean to tell me 24hrs is not enough for you to drive your damn car to the workshop for Gazzuzz to remove his engine?

Fool fix your brain. I don't have any dealings with the criminal. I'm looking at this practical. He has to remove and tow the engine within 24hrs. That's crazy!
Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by ZIMDRILL(m): 8:30pm On Nov 24, 2020
laluski:


My brother I understand what you're saying but the fact still remains that Mr X had a good option of refund..why didn't he take it.Full 300k? Comon man, most guys will take it sharply and either not deal with Gazzuzz again or, because of this gesture, come back again and Or even send more customers to him cos of his selfless gesture...please don't get it wrong most of us here are not supporting Gazuzz...NO.., we're simply dealing with the facts as it is...

If Mr X carry Gazzuzz go JUDGE JUDY ON DSTV FOX CHANNEL...the guy go loose...cos the question will be raised...WHY DIDN'T YOU TAKE THE OFFER OF REFUND WHEN IT WAS GIVEN TO YOU

the truth here is the that these two might have more infor to share but they dont want to because i might discredit both of them

The option can look good to us but not to the buyer, because we dont know what was agreed on the transaction, there are reasons which make sense to the buyer to refuse the offer, those reason should make sense to us but himself because it was his money

Am not saying the customer is right but for Gazzuzz set himself up by gauranting a engine from a abroad which you have no history with, yes it has worked for him all this time but this transaction has shown him the otherside.

Most engines that are sent to Africa are high mileage due to mainly two reason

1 by age of the car eg a 2006 car is 16 years old on average that car should have 182000miles
https://www.caranddriver.com/research/a32880477/average-mileage-per-year/#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Department%20of%20Transportation's,over%201000%20miles%20every%20month.

UK average year mileage is around 10000 miles per year
USA average year milage is around 13000 miles per year

2 high mileage irregardless of its age, a car can be a 2016 but with high mileage

So these engines are cheap to buy from scrap yards due to high mileage

Most engines from low mileage accident engines are not cheap there are almost as the same price as reconditioned engine
Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by LeJeun3: 8:32pm On Nov 24, 2020
naijapips04:


Fool fix your brain. I don't have any dealings with the criminal. I'm looking at this practical. He has to remove and tow the engine within 24hrs. That's crazy!




Yen yen yen yen
Nothing you have said has helped Baba40



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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by ZIMDRILL(m): 8:33pm On Nov 24, 2020
HeavenlyBang:


Guy, you just dey talk complete, utter rubbish. I wonder how this thing you're saying makes any sense in your head.

read again it will make sense

laluski understands what i have said
Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by king406(m): 8:36pm On Nov 24, 2020
Oboy people like problem grin
Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by GIANTPLUSHUB: 9:59pm On Nov 24, 2020
Lol. Very funny thread. Cruise everywhere. Gazzuzz is a very funny person.. Mheen!
Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by candygebs: 10:28pm On Nov 24, 2020
Can't he top oil and drive the car there and let gazzuzz remove the engine.

You should mind your choice of words, no criminal will give you a very lengthy warranty, no criminal will offer u a full refund after you have excceded ur warranty period.

This case is such a simple case, you have been offered a refund even after ur warranty window has elapsed, even if let's agree he was sold a defective engine, what a sane man will do is count his losses and go for the refund sort himself out with another mechanic.

Coming online to throw tantrums was needless, and shows he lacks maturity. Because he had an option of a peaceful resolution but he chose name calling and -ve verbal gymnastics.

Baba of a guy is not matured, he needs to learn to act his age and not his girls age



naijapips04:


remove and return an engine within 24hrs? Do you know how ridiculous that offer is? How realistic do you think it is to remove and return an engine within 24hrs? Gazzuzz or whatever his name is , is a criminal.

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by Depressed101: 11:32pm On Nov 24, 2020
MetroBaba1:


Quote when necessary. Baba40 raised an issue that Op installed Nigerian Used Engine. Pertinent information must be provided.

For your information, I've been following.
op installed a Nigerian used engine, that he used for months without fault, Nigerian engine with 3 months warranty, Nigerian engine that he has refused to return and collect his refund... Yeye dey smell

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by diportivo: 11:42pm On Nov 24, 2020
ZIMDRILL:


the truth here is the that these two might have more infor to share but they dont want to because i might discredit both of them

The option can look good to us but not to the buyer, because we dont know what was agreed on the transaction, there are reasons which make sense to the buyer to refuse the offer, those reason should make sense to us but himself because it was his money

Am not saying the customer is right but for Gazzuzz set himself up by gauranting a engine from a abroad which you have no history with, yes it has worked for him all this time but this transaction has shown him the otherside.

Most engines that are sent to Africa are high mileage due to mainly two reason

1 by age of the car eg a 2006 car is 16 years old on average that car should have 182000miles
https://www.caranddriver.com/research/a32880477/average-mileage-per-year/#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Department%20of%20Transportation's,over%201000%20miles%20every%20month.

UK average year mileage is around 10000 miles per year
USA average year milage is around 13000 miles per year

2 high mileage irregardless of its age, a car can be a 2016 but with high mileage

So these engines are cheap to buy from scrap yards due to high mileage

Most engines from low mileage accident engines are not cheap there are almost as the same price as reconditioned engine

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by robville25: 1:06am On Nov 25, 2020
ZIMDRILL:


the truth here is the that these two might have more infor to share but they dont want to because i might discredit both of them

The option can look good to us but not to the buyer, because we dont know what was agreed on the transaction, there are reasons which make sense to the buyer to refuse the offer, those reason should make sense to us but himself because it was his money

Am not saying the customer is right but for Gazzuzz set himself up by gauranting a engine from a abroad which you have no history with, yes it has worked for him all this time but this transaction has shown him the otherside.

Most engines that are sent to Africa are high mileage due to mainly two reason

1 by age of the car eg a 2006 car is 16 years old on average that car should have 182000miles
https://www.caranddriver.com/research/a32880477/average-mileage-per-year/#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Department%20of%20Transportation's,over%201000%20miles%20every%20month.

UK average year mileage is around 10000 miles per year
USA average year milage is around 13000 miles per year

2 high mileage irregardless of its age, a car can be a 2016 but with high mileage

So these engines are cheap to buy from scrap yards due to high mileage

Most engines from low mileage accident engines are not cheap there are almost as the same price as reconditioned engine


The bolded can not be the truth. And assuming it is, the client should never have come online to vilify the mechanic.

That said, you’re RADICALLY missing the point.

If your analysis was on a thread where the lifetime or durability of used engines in dispute, your comments would be considered expository.

But right here, your comments are not only irrelevant to the issues but inflammatory, which is why I insist that you’re willfully trading your intelligence to subvert the substance of this case and intentionally confuse readers.

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by robville25: 1:30am On Nov 25, 2020
You stated that Gazzuzz should not have warrantied the engine. U actually called it “Foolish” (Without having the locus standi anyway)

You stated that he has done this for others and has gotten away with it but this one has shown him otherwise (irrelevant opinion but let’s sustain it for the purpose of this conversation)

In your mind, Gazzuzz goofed on these two premises.


Client has a warranty that takes the same time it requires to win 85million Naira in the big brother Naija house. He ignores it.

Client receives an extra 24 hour window. He ignores it.

Client abuses and vilifies the mechanic online and demands sympathy. He gets online sympathy, he ignores it.

Client is required to show proof of his claims against mechanic. He insists mechanic shows proof. Mechanic shows proof, he ignores it and continues to assassinate the character of the mechanic.

Client demands that Gazzuzz concede to duping him arrogantly and further requests to be duped with humility. Gazzuzz saves him the emotional trauma of being duped. He ignores it.


Client has out-goofed Gazzuzz. He has no case. How hard is that to glean from all you have read so far?

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by ZIMDRILL(m): 3:32am On Nov 25, 2020
robville25:



The bolded can not be the truth. And assuming it is, the client should never have come online to vilify the mechanic.

That said, you’re RADICALLY missing the point.

If your analysis was on a thread where the lifetime or durability of used engines in dispute, your comments would be considered expository.

But right here, your comments are not only irrelevant to the issues but inflammatory, which is why I insist that you’re willfully trading your intelligence to subvert the substance of this case and intentionally confuse readers.

they have both came online to vilify each other its doesnt matter who started but now there are just acting the same, my thoughts

to understand my point you need to check all post i did you will understand why that ended up coming, Gazzuzz couldnt mention the work he did on the engine to offer the warrant, which roughly means he had faith on the engine like all used imported engines he sold before.

May i ask what test do you do on an engine thats is sitting out from car body to verifty its perfect and it will run fine once installed into the car ? Those engines dont even get run tested for 5mins

unfortunately for this one based on the customer it gave an issue soon after the warranty expired, so i was saying its too risky to give a warranty on an engine that you have no history with and 90 percent of are high mileage to me its way too risky to offer and warrant. But it has worked for Gazzuzz for many times
Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by robville25: 4:31am On Nov 25, 2020
ZIMDRILL:


they have both came online to vilify each other its doesnt matter who started but now there are just acting the same, my thoughts

to understand my point you need to check all post i did you will understand why that ended up coming, Gazzuzz couldnt mention the work he did on the engine to offer the warrant, which roughly means he had faith on the engine like all used imported engines he sold before.

May i ask what test do you do on an engine thats is sitting out from car body to verifty its perfect and it will run fine once installed into the car ? Those engines dont even get run tested for 5mins

unfortunately for this one based on the customer it gave an issue soon after the warranty expired, so i was saying its too risky to give a warranty on an engine that you have no history with and 90 percent of are high mileage to me its way too risky to offer and warrant. But it has worked for Gazzuzz for many times



We don’t know! We don’t care! Create a thread and educate us and we will be eternally grateful.

This thread has a different narrative and deviating makes one really sound unintelligible. Stick to the facts presented, make practical, realistic suggestions or keep mum Bro!

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by Postingnonsense: 5:09am On Nov 25, 2020
Everywhere nah gladiator Bobby shock angry

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by Alfred74: 5:11am On Nov 25, 2020
Postingnonsense:
Everywhere nah gladiator Bobby shock angry

Aboy! Every where de chacharache grin

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by Amono: 5:19am On Nov 25, 2020
Alfred74:


Aboy! Every where de chacharache grin

E don de grugru gaje

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by Alfred74: 6:22am On Nov 25, 2020
radautoworks:
Baba40, what is it you need right now? Is it you want the engine to work in the car? Tell me how I can help so you have some peace.



Wa,iya aje....o ti gbe witchcraft e sori as usual.Acting all saintly and asking what he wants as if you have the magic wand that others asking him the same question over and over again dont have.Awon eyan "come to mummy"

Maybe you should help him with peace by conjuring a potion that will increase his dick size...walahi,bobo yen ma wa alright by force

ori e kolobo bi igba pito yen....to ba fe da soro,do to with common sense and stop being a nuisance.

Bawa ki baby o.Olorun a wo o

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by MrFinbarr(m): 6:34am On Nov 25, 2020
Alfred74:




Wa,iya aje....o ti gbe witchcraft e sori as usual.Acting all saintly and asking what he wants as if you have the magic wand that others asking him the same question over and over again dont have.Awon eyan "come to mummy"

Maybe you should help him with peace by conjuring a potion that will increase his dick size...walahi,bobo yen ma wa alright by force

ori e kolobo bi igba pito yen....to ba fe da soro,do to with common sense and stop being a nuisance.

Bawa ki baby o.Olorun a wo o

Oga Alfred, leave Aunty Radu alone nah.
No come pick another fight inside this fight now.
Alaye focus on the matter nah
Too much gbas gbos for here
Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by Ogbadibo80: 6:34am On Nov 25, 2020

radautoworks:
Baba40, what is it you need right now? Is it you want the engine to work in the car? Tell me how I can help so you have some peace.


You can reach out to him via a personal message or call him on his phone number, it is common knowledge where he uploaded his invoice with his name and contact.

You are also in the service industry, and in competition with the accused, If you want to truly help, you don't have to advertise it.

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by diportivo: 6:36am On Nov 25, 2020
ZIMDRILL:


they have both came online to vilify each other its doesnt matter who started but now there are just acting the same, my thoughts

to understand my point you need to check all post i did you will understand why that ended up coming, Gazzuzz couldnt mention the work he did on the engine to offer the warrant, which roughly means he had faith on the engine like all used imported engines he sold before.

May i ask what test do you do on an engine thats is sitting out from car body to verifty its perfect and it will run fine once installed into the car ? Those engines dont even get run tested for 5mins

unfortunately for this one based on the customer it gave an issue soon after the warranty expired, so i was saying its too risky to give a warranty on an engine that you have no history with and 90 percent of are high mileage to me its way too risky to offer and warrant. But it has worked for Gazzuzz for many times




guy


rest!!

or....suck brezz or something

ur p0300 don dey carry weight

we don tell u say even engine supplier go give u one week....and dats cos dey know it's used,and shit can hit the roof quickly

from the bolded,mechanic gave 3 months....issues started after it....c'est finite now abi undecided

its non of ur fuc.king business how many years warranty mechanic gives his client.....

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by Amono: 6:38am On Nov 25, 2020
Ogbadibo80:


You can reach out to him via a personal message or call him on his phone number, it is common knowledge where he uploaded his invoice with his name and contact.

You are also in the service industry, and in competition with the accused, If you want to truly help, you don't have to advertise it.

Since gazzuzz called her out in the amdman thread, she became his enemy.

As it is, she can buy assist anyone to bring him down to look all saintly .

Radautoworks if you want to help you don't have to make any noise, call the guy ask for his acct and send him money for a new engine.

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by Ogbadibo80: 6:41am On Nov 25, 2020
Amono:


Since gazzuzz called her out in the amdman thread, she became his enemy.

As it is, she can buy assist anyone to bring him down to look all saintly .

Radautoworks if you want to help you don't have to make any noise, call the guy ask for his acct and send him money for a new engine.

I am not aware of this.

But If this is correct, then truly the man is hated by many.

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by kingreign(m): 6:52am On Nov 25, 2020
radautoworks:
Baba40, what is it you need right now? Is it you want the engine to work in the car? Tell me how I can help so you have some peace.
What sort of rubbish is this?

Why not wait and watch by the sideline? Did the OP states that he needs your attention or your aid or help?

You wanna use this to score cheap points abi? All I see in this your comment is nothing but deceit and serpentlike craftiness to get back at Gazzuzz.

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by kingreign(m): 6:54am On Nov 25, 2020
Amono:


Since gazzuzz called her out in the amdman thread, she became his enemy.

As it is, she can buy assist anyone to bring him down to look all saintly .

Radautoworks if you want to help you don't have to make any noise, call the guy ask for his acct and send him money for a new engine.

Bro all I see in her speech is nothing but deceit, venom n witchcraftcy undertones.

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by Nobody: 7:29am On Nov 25, 2020
This taking another turn.
Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by greatbrian(m): 7:47am On Nov 25, 2020
And this mechanic guy finally shot himself on the foot.... This is so cheap and immature. Well even the devil have supporters so am not surprised sycophants are still earning their daily meal here

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by Lush100(m): 7:56am On Nov 25, 2020
Dear folks,

Pls let's not complicate matters.

Baba40 erred by not bringing up the issue within warranty period.

Except if he did, but could not access to gazzuzz workshop due to other engagement.(from the story I can't say if he did)

Baba40 hasn't said what exactly he wants,

I don't know if there were other informal discussion between gazzuzz and this client that made the issue to degenerate like this (to the point of coming to nairaland to start this brohaha) but the other guy who never came out that had similar complaint made me had a rethink

There must be a reason why gazzuzz usually insist on taking back engines and do a refund. I don't know and I'm not an auto mech but I think diagnosing the cause of the oil burn might be a better option unless his knowledge states that it is a severe problem.

But then, there is a reason.

I think gazzuzz is straight , I just have some problem with attitude if I am to be honest.

Matters like this are better handled offline and when the issue is still at infantry stage.

Well someone has already suggested his gets a customer relations personnel.
This might help greatly but there still have to be some form of empathy from gazzuzz to the customer for this to work else the personnel so hired will be between the devil and deep blue sea.

Radautoworks has no hand in this matter whatsoever as insinuated by some.

Lastly, I see some particular "set of folks" always coming to gazzuzz side no matter the customer complaint. It's not bad but the manner you guys do it , you always try to make the customer feel stupid with memes and side stuff.
I understand a customer may not be that learned in such area but I think what you guys should do is to try and mediate and appeal to both the customer and gazzuzz.

In all, I plead with gazzuzz to help resolve this matter offline.

Sir, no matter how you look at it I and every other average customer , if we were to purchase a tikunbo engine will feel bad if it starts shorting out within just 4 months. It's just natural. Our manner of approach for resolution might be different.
A lot will depend on how much we have left after expending such huge amount.
In this case baba40 may be dried of cash hence this outburst

Pls take no offense I beg of you and let this thing slide dear gazzuzz,

Once you open your office to the outside world, you will meet all manner of people,
You should expect it.
Once again I appeal to you to try to resolve this matter offline, call this customer and see what you can do to resolve his issue,
It will not diminish your status if you do, I promise you.

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Re: Baba40 Is A Dubious Fraud . (proof) by diportivo: 8:12am On Nov 25, 2020
Lush100:
Dear folks,

Pls let's not complicate matters.

Baba40 erred by not bringing up the issue within warranty period.

Except if he did, but could not access to gazzuzz workshop due to other engagement.(from the story I can't say if he did)

Baba40 hasn't said what exactly he wants,

I don't know if there were other informal discussion between gazzuzz and this client that made the issue to degenerate like this (to the point of coming to nairaland to start this brohaha) but the other guy who never came out that had similar complaint made me had a rethink

There must be a reason why gazzuzz usually insist on taking back engines and do a refund. I don't know and I'm not an auto mech but I think diagnosing the cause of the oil burn might be a better option unless his knowledge states that it is a severe problem.

But then, there is a reason.

I think gazzuzz is straight , I just have some problem with attitude if I am to be honest.

Matters like this are better handled offline and when the issue is still at infantry stage.

Well someone has already suggested his gets a customer relations personnel.
This might help greatly but there still have to be some form of empathy from gazzuzz to the customer for this to work else the personnel so hired will be between the devil and deep blue sea.

Radautoworks has no hand in this matter whatsoever as insinuated by some.

Lastly, I see some particular "set of folks" always coming to gazzuzz side no matter the customer complaint. It's not bad but the manner you guys do it , you always try to make the customer feel stupid with memes and side stuff.
I understand a customer may not be that learned in such area but I think what you guys should do is to try and mediate and appeal to both the customer and gazzuzz.

In all, I plead with gazzuzz to help resolve this matter offline.

Sir, no matter how you look at it I and every other average customer , if we were to purchase a tikunbo engine will feel bad if it starts shorting out within just 4 months. It's just natural. Our manner of approach for resolution might be different.
A lot will depend on how much we have left after expending such huge amount.
In this case baba40 may be dried of cash hence this outburst

Pls take no offense I beg of you and let this thing slide dear gazzuzz,

Once you open your office to the outside world, you will meet all manner of people,
You should expect it.
Once again I appeal to you to try to resolve this matter offline, call this customer and see what you can do to resolve his issue,
It would not diminish your status if you do, I promise you.




guy

when you are about to the given that diplomacy job at the UN,I will vote for u

I like how u av calm tried to resolve this....God bless you bro

this sort one man business doesnt need any customer relations rep.....sometimes,just the vibes the customer gives is enough for client to decline,and this goes both ways.especially since those offering these services are everywhere in town...my tot sha

if u dont try to resolve this offline,and den u come online to start raining curses without even stating what u want as a solution,why blame the accused?u already made mockery of the whole thing hence the meme by some of us....I mean,u cant want solution and not state it,innit?

if I were asked to return engine within 24hrs and it isnt convenient as at that time,common sense will tell me to renegotiate....if that doenst happen,more reasons to use in butressing my point during the online rant...abi?

when people call others out,they state facts first,state what they want,and give the floor to the other party to defend himself....once u start with curses,it will degenerate to what we have here

as it is,there wont be any offline solution anymore....

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