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Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:49pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
DappaD:Thats not what Darwin said sir. I don’t expect you to understand it when we are not even sure that you passed secondary level biology |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 3:49pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:50pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2:Sarcasm will get you no where. You won't accept that you've finally roped yourself now. Look at the highlighted in the above and below and see if you'll see any contradiction. FatherOFJesus2: Learn to read the Bible more often instead of regurgitating whatever white men in suits and labcoats have told you. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 3:51pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: It's not a design cos' it's harmful? Tell me, can a trained scientist produce a cancerous cell/tissue from nothing? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:52pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium: He's been deceiving himself nah Mutations do not produce new species he has agreed and that proves that the evolution theory is faulty on many fronts. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:53pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:wrong sir. Mutation is any alteration in gene sequence. It doesn’t necessarily leads to new specie unless your own definition of mutation is from the Bible |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by jamesid29(m): 3:53pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOfJesus:With respect sir, it's not mutation that accounts for differences amongst siblings; it's gene combination. This is not a mistake a biologist should make. 1 Like |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 3:54pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
DappaD: Evolution theory is founded on Mutation. He see how unreasonable it is He's out |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:54pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:someone that sees the way you are typing variant will think you really understand what it is Mutation do not always lead to formation of new specie. Heritable mutation always lead to change in genotypic and phenotypic feature. Don’t redefine it sir |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by DappaD: 3:55pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: If it's about academic qualifications and achievements, don't worry I'm not going to get into that debate with you because of the person I am. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:55pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
jamesid29:yes, crossing of chromosomes during meiosis. But the argument was to establish variation that prompts evolution |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:56pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
DappaD:its obvious because you don’t think that mutation is responsible for evolution. It’s obvious you failed biology |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 3:56pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: The theory of evolution hinges on Mutation you're saying 'it doesn't necessarily' comeback when you're certain of your stance |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:58pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:Yes sir, cystic fibrosis, microcephaly, albinism are all as a result of mutation. But they don’t cause new specie. Go back and learn the basis of mutation |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 3:59pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:Leukemia, cancer etc are mutations. Is a leukemia patient homo erectus? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 4:00pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2:it's called Gene recombination man! it's causes variation too but not new specie Rest! |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by Bacteriologist(m): 4:00pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium: It could be design, just not an intelligent one. I just helped you debunk the "incredible" part of it. But you haven't even proved how human body part is "designed." Your god of the gaps fallacy is hanging out like a thread. "We don't know x, therefore god did it." 200 years ago we couldn't put anything afloat in the air. Today we have gigantic metal structures cruising the skies. That we don't know something yet, doesn't mean a God made it. That is a foolishly fatal sort of reasoning. And something cannot come from nothing. Maybe try logic 101. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:02pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:And variation is a factor that is essential for evolution. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 4:06pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: Omg why is it not an incredible design. Remember we're not discussing benefits.. Good point! If you show you a working spaceship, and I claimed it formed itself in a big bang process...you would believe this right? |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by Bacteriologist(m): 4:06pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: Right! Classic case of theists cherrypicking what suits that indoctrinated narrative when they say intelligent design. "When I look at the trees, waterfalls.." "When I see a beautiful sunset.." How about "When I see a new born baby larger than the birth canal of the mother causing serious vaginal tears or even death to the mother.." "When I see natural disasters.." "When I see conjoined twins.." It's just the hypocrisy of leaving out the death threats in the Quran when muslims say islam is a religion of peace. Or the bible supporting slavery and genocidal killings and christians say it is a book that is morally perfect. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 4:06pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: Settled! Mutation is not the basis for evolution |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:08pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:someone that see type gene recombination will think you know what you are saying? Without that recombination, evolution will be impossible. Humans would have gone extinct long before now because every human on earth will have exactly same genotypic and phenotypic feature. We can’t n adapt to constantly change environment without the crossing and recombination by homologous chromosomes. That’s the point. I think I should engage that other guy. He seems more brilliant |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:09pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:sorry, mutation is now of the basis for evolution sir. As a matter of fact it’s very important we mutate our gene from time to time including recombination to survival. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by Bacteriologist(m): 4:10pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium: Ok so what do you mean by incredible? I wouldn't necessarily believe it. Unless you can demonstrate to me that it indeed formed itself in a big bang process. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 4:11pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: Variation occur within a specie. if you have evidence to proof otherwise . Drop it |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:11pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Bacteriologist:I have been trying to convince one ever since that mutations doesn’t necessarily lead to new specie. He’s just thicker than a wall, can grasp it. He thinks every mutation will produce new specie like TMNT. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 4:13pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: You're confused truly |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:13pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:What causes variations? 1. Mutations and recombination The evidence for evolution is fossil records and the fact that you don’t reason like me. You need very thick skulls to keep a decent variation in our gene pool It’s key for survival |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by FatherOFJesus2: 4:14pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:you are the confuse person here. You don’t know what variation and you seem not to even know what mutation is. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by haddeylium(m): 4:15pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: There's not a proof of life out of nothing. So, you should keep the same energy |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by Bacteriologist(m): 4:15pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
FatherOFJesus2: Lol I am following the conversation although I try to avoid evolution conversations with theists. It's a pity when they think evolution is an atheist thing when several religious people now accept the evolution theory. It just shows a lack of knowledge of physical laws and basic biology, when a person cannot grasp the simple concept of evolution. Maybe they should give us their explanation of why drug resistance and vaccination shots exist then. |
Re: Where Do Animals Go After Death, Heaven Or Hell by Bacteriologist(m): 4:16pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
haddeylium: What has that got to do with the big bang? or anything I have discussed so far? |
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