livingchrist:
keep talking trash there
Lie lie barrister, you said a human cannot exist without blood but when presented with evidence you are straw manning, sickness or abnormal condition does not determine humanity.
There are humans that are sick/ live in abnormal condition, that does not take away their humanity.

I have showed you a man that survived 20 minutes without blood
Can you show me a Human without flesh and bones even if it is just a second?

Under bad body temperature that could kill her after that 20 minutes

livingchrist:
keep talking trash there
Lie lie barrister, you said a human cannot exist without blood but when presented with evidence you are straw manning, sickness or abnormal condition does not determine humanity.
There are humans that are sick/ live in abnormal condition, that does not take away their humanity.

I have showed you a man that survived 20 minutes without blood
Can you show me a Human without flesh and bones even if it is just a second?

This your attempt at justifying that human can live without blood is so hilarious.
I wouldn't blame you anyway. That's your last straw

It's not possible to drain out the entire blood of human cos' blood is a connective tissue.
Once Blood go below the 'defined range' , it leads to death. No two-way

In a medical procedure where blood has to be drained below the range that support an active live and replaced with salt water.

They termed it as Killing a patient to save his Life

I can provide your information on this if you care

DeOTR:

You still haven't answered to the fact that all eyes will see a supposed Invisible being at the end of days.
Don't get me wrong, Spirit beings don't have human, immortal bodies, but that doesn't make them invisible

Anything rendered spirit in the scriptures are invisible
Spirit being (Like Angels) can materialized to be visible to human eyes
But in their spirit nature, they're invisible

Barristter07:
If that body is in existence, it won't be Recreated.

Provide the scripture where it is stated that "new CREATED body"

Lying liar like your father the Devil.

Frustrated man, those are visions. You can as well say Stephen is already a glorified human , so we can know if Glorified humans dey die. You cant lie any longer . Gbas gbos

Learn to use your brain.

Deluded man, so Human can see God in the vision but I thought nobody human can see God in your delusion!

No wonder you couldn't provide the scripture for everyone to see.

Oponu radarada!

Barristter07:
Emusan In Gbas Gbos

Deluded Barristter07 forming in the mouth.

What carries that Life in human Body ? Gbas gbos

It's blood! Then the point is, Blood don't make us HUMAN but flesh and bones are.

That's why I said earlier that for scientists to solve the issue of ageing, all what they need to do is to resolve the issue of our blood vessel.

So if scientists acheived that, does that means we're not human again

No wonder, you're Oponu!

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him


John 6:46
“No man has seen The Father, except he who is from God; he himself sees The Father.”


All those people you mentioned only saw his representative angels .

Unless you mean Jesus is a Liar ... Your power no reach e don red

Jesus didn't lie neither the writer of Genesis who says MOSES and Jacob saw God FACE TO FACE, the only deluded person here is the one who couldn't understand the speakers intent.

If what MOSES saw was a representative, then what is the essence of God says He can't see His face?

So you don't know what you are quoting, I should be the one to provide the verse yeye dey smell

"They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. " Revelation 22:4,5

No man can see God's Face and LIVE .

They are not humans , but Spirit persons.

1. So there's NIGHT in heaven
2. There is SUN SHINE in heaven
3. So the SPIRIT BEING also use LIGHT OF LAMP to see.

Keep exposing your ignorance up and down.

The man that can't see God's face and live is a frail man not Glorified man, even as man is in his frail state, God still chooses to reveal Himself to whom He wills.

Revelation reveals that the people are with human flesh and bones that's why it says No need of SUN, won't FEEL HUNGRY and FEEL THIRSTY.

We already know that spirit being don't experience something like this before.

Emusan:


Provide the scripture where it is stated that "new CREATED body"

Lying liar like your father the Devil.

When you send your spirit to that which has return to dust, they are CREATED .

Not transformed. That psalm said it all

Your transformation agenda cannot stand scrutiny

Deluded man, so Human can see God in the vision but I thought nobody human can see God in your delusion!

No wonder you couldn't provide the scripture for everyone to see.

Oponu radarada!

Now you have been corrected . Good, vision is not real, heavens didn't literally opened .

The point remain NO HUMAN can see God's Face and LIVE .

Emusan:


Deluded Barristter07 forming in the mouth.

It's blood! Then the point is, Blood don't make us HUMAN but flesh and bones are.

That's why I said earlier that for scientists to solve the issue of ageing, all what they need to do is to resolve the issue of our blood vessel.

So if scientists acheived that, does that means we're not human again

No wonder, you're Oponu!

No science can achieve an human without blood. So like Hebrews 2:14 said Humans are creatures of flesh and blood.

Even Jesus in his perfect state as an Human still possess blood. It's essential unless you are reffering to dead bodies.

Jesus didn't lie neither the writer of Genesis who says MOSES and Jacob saw God FACE TO FACE, the only deluded person here is the one who couldn't understand the speakers intent.

If what MOSES saw was a representative, then what is the essence of God says He can't see His face?

1. So there's NIGHT in heaven
2. There is SUN SHINE in heaven
3. So the SPIRIT BEING also use LIGHT OF LAMP to see.

Keep exposing your ignorance up and down.

The man that can't see God's face and live is a frail man not Glorified man, even as man is in his frail state, God still chooses to reveal Himself to whom He wills.

Emphasis on " NO MAN can "

Emusan - Some men can

Between you and God, who is Lying ?

Revelation reveals that the people are with human flesh and bones that's why it says No need of SUN, won't FEEL HUNGRY and FEEL THIRSTY.

We already know that spirit being don't experience something like this before.

Mumu man

" They shall neither hunger nor thirst, Neither heat nor sun shall strike them; For He who has mercy on them will lead them, Even by the springs of water He will guide them. " Isaiah 49:10

The isrealites no get blood ?

sonmvayina:


Start from verse 1. King Ahaz was scared that the two people plotting against him were going to kill him and end his blood line. So Isaiah was sent by God to assure him that they will not succeed. He was still jittery, so God ask him to choose a sign, when he didn't ..God still proceeded to give him a sign to assure him that the two kings plane will not see the light of day . so the sign was for king Ahaz,it was to assure him that his kingdom will still be intact..so Isaiah said to him "a young woman (his wife or concubine ) probably pointing to the woman as he was making the pronouncement is with child, meaning the woman was already pregnant.he will bare a son who she shall call Immanuel meaning "God with us" before the child is weaned, the two kings would have passed on...


So there was a time frame for the sign, it has got nothing to do with Jesus...

Read it from 1 to 16..

So the verse is referring to Hezekiah or who?
Let me agree with you for a second.
So how do you explain Daniel 9:25–26?

DeOTR:

So the verse is referring to Hezekiah or who?
Let me agree with you for a second.
So how do you explain Daniel 9:25–26?

Not Hezekiah, the sign was Isaiah son. If you continue to read till 8 verse 18 it says " I and the sons the lord has given me, we are for signs and potents for the children of Israel. ".Daniel 9 is a dream . it is all symbolic. Start from the beginning too. It is talking about the kingdom past and the coming kingdoms..

sonmvayina:


Not Hezekiah, the sign was Isaiah son. If you continue to read till 8 verse 18 it says " I and the sons the lord has given me, we are for signs and potents for the children of Israel. ".Daniel 9 is a dream . it is all symbolic. Start from the beginning too. It is talking about the kingdom past and the coming kingdoms..

No, it's a vision. Daniel was still praying when Gabriel touched him.
I know the visions are symbolic. Gabriel mentioned the timeline for the fulfillment of the prophecy. The first 7 weeks is for the rebuilding of the City of Jerusalem(From the time Artaxerxes issued a decree to Ezra in 457BC for the rebuilding of Jerusalem to when the city was completely restored in 15th year of Darius (408BC) is 7 prophetic weeks: 49 actual years). From the time Artaxerxes issued the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to the Messiah, the Prince, is 69 prophetic weeks (483 years). From 457BC , the prophecy terminated in 27AD.
And what event then occurred?
We were informed that, "Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."(Luke3:21,22).
After this, Jesus came "preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, THE TIME IS FULFILLED" (Mark1:14,15).
The time here mentioned must have been some specific, definite, and predicted period; but no prophetic period can be found then terminating,
except the 69 weeks of the prophecy of
Daniel, which were to extend to the Messiah the
Prince. The Messiah had now come; and with his own lips he announced the termination of that period which was to be marked by his manifestation.
The Messiah was to confirm covenant with many for one week (7 actual years). And in the midst of the of this week, the record informed us, the Messiah would cause sacrifice and oblation to cease (Jewish ordinances, pointing to the death of Christ, virtually came to an end at the cross).
Do I need to say that from Jesus' baptism in the Autumn of 27AD to His crucifixion in the spring of 31AD, it's 3.5years, exactly in the middle of the 70th week of Daniel's prophecy?
This prophecy is pointing exactly to Christ.
It has nothing to do with any past or future Kingdom (correct me with verifiable facts if I'm wrong). Prophecies are clear when talking about kingdoms. Daniel 7 and 8 are good examples of visions pertaining to Kingdoms.

DeOTR:

No, it's a vision. Daniel was still praying when Gabriel touched him.
I know the visions are symbolic. Gabriel mentioned the timeline for the fulfillment of the prophecy. The first 7 weeks is for the rebuilding of the City of Jerusalem(From the time Artaxerxes issued a decree to Ezra in 457BC for the rebuilding of Jerusalem to when the city was completely restored in 15th year of Darius (408BC) is 7 prophetic weeks: 49 actual years). From the time Artaxerxes issued the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to the Messiah, the Prince, is 69 prophetic weeks (483 years). From 457BC , the prophecy terminated in 27AD.
And what event then occurred?
We were informed that, "Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."(Luke3:21,22).
After this, Jesus came "preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, THE TIME IS FULFILLED" (Mark1:14,15).
The time here mentioned must have been some specific, definite, and predicted period; but no prophetic period can be found then terminating,
except the 69 weeks of the prophecy of
Daniel, which were to extend to the Messiah the
Prince. The Messiah had now come; and with his own lips he announced the termination of that period which was to be marked by his manifestation.
The Messiah was to confirm covenant with many for one week (7 actual years). And in the midst of the of this week, the record informed us, the Messiah would cause sacrifice and oblation to cease (Jewish ordinances, pointing to the death of Christ, virtually came to an end at the cross).
Do I need to say that from Jesus' baptism in the Autumn of 27AD to His crucifixion in the spring of 31AD, it's 3.5years, exactly in the middle of the 70th week of Daniel's prophecy?
This prophecy is pointing exactly to Christ.
It has nothing to do with any past or future Kingdom (correct me with verifiable facts if I'm wrong). Prophecies are clear when talking about kingdoms. Daniel 7 and 8 are good examples of visions pertaining to Kingdoms.

Well, I think the best explanation will be given by the Jews, who owns the book of Daniel..

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/daniel-9-a-true-biblical-interpretation/

sonmvayina:


Well, I think the best explanation will be given by the Jews, who owns the book of Daniel..

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/daniel-9-a-true-biblical-interpretation/

Artaxerxes decree was to restore and rebuild Jerusalem. The two previous ones was all about the Temple, not the City. The last one is not a decree, but a declaration by the King to Hezekiah. In Babylon, a decree is a written document, not a verbal statement.
So when Book says "from the going forth of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem", we know which decree that was. It was the one issued in 457BC.

The Book of Daniel is the the Prophecy of the Almighty, the same God the Jews have constantly rebel against, so Jews own no shiit here. They do not even believe in the Books and the Prophets. They own no shit.
Are these not the same people who constantly disobeyed God and fall into idolatry so much that God had to send them into exile in Babylon? The 70weeks was the last chance they had to return to God, but as usual, they missed it by rejecting Christ. Little wonder the Romans had to destroy Jerusalem again and scatter all of them abroad after missing their last chance?

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly just as the spirit of all other creatures also return to God!

DappaD:
The Bible’s answer

The Bible says that Jesus “was put to death in the flesh but made alive [resurrected] in the spirit.”​—1 Peter 3:​18; Acts 13:34; 1 Corinthians 15:45; 2 Corinthians 5:​16.

Jesus’ own words showed that he would not be resurrected with his flesh-and-blood body. He said that he would give his “flesh in behalf of the life of the world,” as a ransom for mankind. (John 6:​51; Matthew 20:28) If he had taken back his flesh when he was resurrected, he would have canceled that ransom sacrifice. This could not have happened, though, for the Bible says that he sacrificed his flesh and blood “once for all time.”—Hebrews 9:​11, 12.

If Jesus was raised up with a spirit body, how could his disciples see him?

• Spirit creatures can take on human form. For example, angels who did this in the past even ate and drank with humans. (Genesis 18:​1-8; 19:​1-3) However, they still were spirit creatures and could leave the physical realm.​—Judges 13:15-​21.

• After his resurrection, Jesus also assumed human form temporarily, just as angels had previously done. As a spirit creature, though, he was able to appear and disappear suddenly. (Luke 24:31; John 20:19, 26) The fleshly bodies that he materialized were not identical from one appearance to the next. Thus, even Jesus’ close friends recognized him only by what he said or did.​—Luke 24:30, 31, 35; John 20:14-​16; 21:​6, 7.

• When Jesus appeared to the apostle Thomas, he took on a body with wound marks. He did this to bolster Thomas’ faith, since Thomas doubted that Jesus had been raised up.​—John 20:24-​29.


Source : https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/jesus-body/
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Hmmmm.

haddeylium:


This your attempt at justifying that human can live without blood is so hilarious.
I wouldn't blame you anyway. That's your last straw

It's not possible to drain out the entire blood of human cos' blood is a connective tissue.
Once Blood go below the 'defined range' , it leads to death. No two-way

In a medical procedure where blood has to be drained below the range that support an active live and replaced with salt water.

They termed it as Killing a patient to save his Life

I can provide your information on this if you care

1.what does heading has to do with the fact that all the blood in a human body was drained out and yet he lived
You have failed to establish how a human being without blood ceases to be human.

The conclusion is that a human with or without blood remains a human.

2. Since, Jesus body was not corrupted/distroyed/disintegrated he resurrected with his body.

3. For Jesus body to have remained even without blood, it means it was transformed from a natural body to a spiritual body not a Spirit body.

livingchrist:


it means it was transformed from a natural body to a spiritual body not a Spirit body.

Thank you sir!

Human body is Physical/Natural
Spirit body is Spiritual!

Enjoy your day!

livingchrist:
1.what does heading has to do with the fact that all the blood in a human body was drained out and yet he lived
You have failed to establish how a human being without blood ceases to be human.

The conclusion is that a human with or without blood remains a human.

2. Since, Jesus body was not corrupted/distroyed/disintegrated he resurrected with his body.

3. For Jesus body to have remained even without blood, it means it was transformed from a natural body to a spiritual body not a Spirit body.

Human without blood is Dead. Human with a blood temperature lesser than 37°c is sick . For scientist to drain that blood and make the person lives, they had to make the patient a sick person.

Your point is bull and void. Humans can't go to heaven. And humans can't see God's face .

If you like remain in your confusion. I like the way the thread ended with y'all grasping to explain nonsense with Hypothermia .

Barristter07:


Under bad body temperature that could kill her after that 20 minutes

The livingchrist of a guy knows he is a joke

haddeylium:


This your attempt at justifying that human can live without blood is so hilarious.
I wouldn't blame you anyway. That's your last straw

It's not possible to drain out the entire blood of human cos' blood is a connective tissue.
Once Blood go below the 'defined range' , it leads to death. No two-way

In a medical procedure where blood has to be drained below the range that support an active live and replaced with salt water.

They termed it as Killing a patient to save his Life

I can provide your information on this if you care

Lolzzzzzzzzzz

Barristter07:


No science can achieve an human without blood. So like Hebrews 2:14 said Humans are creatures of flesh and blood.

Even Jesus in his perfect state as an Human still possess blood. It's essential unless you are reffering to dead bodies.




Emphasis on " NO MAN can "

Emusan - Some men can

Between you and God, who is Lying ?



Mumu man

" They shall neither hunger nor thirst, Neither heat nor sun shall strike them; For He who has mercy on them will lead them, Even by the springs of water He will guide them. " Isaiah 49:10

The isrealites no get blood ?

The isrealites don't have blood o

Jozzy4:

Human without blood is Dead. Human with a blood temperature lesser than 37°c is sick . For scientist to drain that blood and make the person lives, they had to make the patient a sick person.

Your point is bull and void. Humans can't go to heaven. And humans can't see God's face .

If you like remain in your confusion. I like the way the thread ended with y'all grasping to explain nonsense with Hypothermia .

you should hide your head in shame, whether Hypothermia or not a human lived for 20 minutes without blood you are typing nonsense.

Question: "What does it mean that Jesus is our Wonderful Counselor (Isaiah 9:6)?" Answer: When Isaiah wrote his prediction of the coming of the “Wonderful Counselor” (Isaiah 9:6), he was spurring Israel to remember their Messiah was indeed coming to establish His Kingdom [color=#990000](Isaiah 9:7). Isaiah was writing nearly 800 years before Christ. [/color]
This period of history was tumultuous as the Assyrians were on the march, taking people into captivity by droves. Isaiah’s prophecy gave the people of God a hope they so desperately needed: a Child would be born to fulfill the Davidic Covenant, and He would bear the titles “Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
” The Child was Christ; the prophecy will reach its consummation at Christ’s second coming.
That Isaiah calls the Messiah the “Wonderful Counselor” indicates the kind of character this coming King has.

The word wonderful in this passage literally means “incomprehensible.”
The Messiah will cause us to be “full of wonder.” The word is much weightier than the way it’s used in normal conversation today—we say things are “wonderful” if they are pleasant, lovely, or the least bit likable. Jesus is wonderful in a way that is boggling to the mind. The same word for “wonderful” is used in {Judges 13:18} when Manoah, Samson’s father, asked the LORD (in a theophany) what His name was. The angel of the LORD responded, “Why do you ask my name, seeing it is wonderful?”
In other words, “Why do you ask my name, since it is beyond your understanding?”

Jesus demonstrated His wonderfulness in various ways when He was on the earth, beginning with His conception in the womb of a virgin (Matthew 1:23).
He showed He is the “wonderful” One in His power to heal (Matthew 4:23),
His amazing teaching (Mark 1:22),
His perfect life (Hebrews 4:15), and His resurrection from the dead (Mark 16:6).
Jesus taught many wonderful things that are counterintuitive to the human mind: “Blessed are those who mourn” (Matthew 5:4). “Rejoice and be glad” in persecution (Matthew 5:11–12).
“Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you” (Luke 6:27).
Jesus’ kind of wonderful is awe-inspiring and superior to any other kind, for He is perfect in every way (Matthew 5:48).

The second part of the Messiah’s title is the word counselor. In ancient Israel, a counselor was portrayed as a wise king, such as Solomon, giving guidance to his people (1 Kings 4:34; Micah 4:9).
Isaiah uses this word again in 28:29 to describe the LORD:
“This also comes from the LORD of hosts; he is wonderful in counsel and excellent in wisdom.” Jesus is a wise counselor. “He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person” (John 2:25).
He is able to advise His people thoroughly because He is qualified in ways no human counselor is. In Christ is “hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge” (Colossians 2:3), including the knowledge of all human nature (Psalm 139:1–2).
Jesus always knows what we are going through, and He always knows the right course of action (Hebrews 4:15–16).
Christ’s position as our Wonderful Counselor means we can trust Him to listen to our problems and guide us in the right direction (Proverbs 3:6).
We can be sure He is listening because He told us to pray to Him about our worries (Philippians 4:6; James 1:5).
We can be certain He has our best interests at heart because He loves us (1 John 4:19).
And His love is so wide and deep (and wonderful) that we cannot fully understand it (Romans 5:.

Please no insults or abuses


Wonderful Counselor
Mighty God
Everlasting Father
Prince of Peace Isaiah 9:6

For a man to fully measure up to all this titles he must produce a group through whom we can examine his abilities as a

Wonderful Counselor ~ who can counsel his followers to the extent of making them think alike! John 17:20-23

Mighty God ~ whose influence could be clearly seen on his followers! Matthew 5:13-16

Everlasting Father ~ whose fatherly instructions can make his children work together as one big team! John 13:34-35

Prince of Peace ~ whose subjects will never raise up weapons against anyone not to talk of killing themselves! Matthew 26:52

So can you please present a group of people that his wonderful counsel has helped to do any of the mentioned?

brocab:
Question: "What does it mean that Jesus is our Wonderful Counselor
(Isaiah 9:6)?"

livingchrist:
you should hide your head in shame, whether Hypothermia or not a human lived for 20 minutes without blood you are typing nonsense.

Hypothermia is deadly disease. u are saying Jesus is dead . Hahahahaha

Lemme see Emusan and livingchrist preach that Jesus is human rubbish again.

Jozzy4:


Hypothermia is deadly disease. u are saying Jesus is dead . Hahahahaha

talk now, is a sick human not a human again?

Jozzy4:
Lemme see Emusan and livingchrist preach that Jesus is human rubbish again.

After you ran away right?
Jesus is a human because he was resurrected with his body.
after you and your likes ran away from the question of what happened to Jesus body after his resurrection, since Jesus body was not dissolved or decayed or destroyed

Jozzy4:
Lemme see Emusan and livingchrist preach that Jesus is human rubbish again.

We've been preaching it and continue to preach till Jesus cast you and your father the lying liar into that everlasting fire.

Jesus is a glorified human setting example for all His saints to be resurrected in the likeness of His resurrection. Says the Holy scripture!

Emusan:


We've been preaching it and continue to preach till Jesus cast you and your father the lying liar into that everlasting fire.

Jesus is a glorified human setting example for all His saints to be resurrected in the likeness of His resurrection. Says the Holy scripture!

Can ANY humans see God's face and live ?

livingchrist:
After you ran away right?
Jesus is a human because he was resurrected with his body.
after you and your likes ran away from the question of what happened to Jesus body after his resurrection, since Jesus body was not dissolved or decayed or destroyed

Can any human see God's face and live ?

livingchrist:
talk now, is a sick human not a human again?

It was raised in Glory. What is raised in Glory is not sick, that means Jesus is not human

Jozzy4:
Lemme see Emusan and livingchrist preach that Jesus is human rubbish again.

you dey mind them