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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 10:18am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Barristter07: Yes! After resurrection. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 10:20am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 10:28am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Barristter07: Deluded and idiotic boy. God is talking about frail MAN oponu ode, that's why after resurrection the scripture says we shall see His face. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 10:32am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Emusan: Frail Man can't see God's face and live Or No man can see God's face and live Ejor, what did God say ? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:35am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Please was Adam a frail man? Was he seeing God face to face? Or were they (couple) only hearing his voice? Emusan: |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 10:36am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Barristter07: Frail man, Yes! People see God's face in vision. If your statement is correct then the scripture is totally lying because it will mean in whatever MEANS MAN CAN'T SEE God's face. So the scripture is right and you're a liar. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 10:42am On Dec 15, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: No scripture says Adam sees God face to face but the scripture says GOD do visit Him (Adam & His wife). The word ONLY is of not the scripture. Come with another lie. Besides, what are you still doing here? Thought your lying mouth said you're done with meaningless argument. Now you're back to your vomit.... O ma se oooo |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 10:44am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Emusan:Jesus later clarify what they see is not real . No wonder they didn't die. No man has seen God at anytime.
Yeeeba Na wa o And those who saw God in visions are not frail men ? Are you making yourself a liar ni bayii ? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 10:52am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Barristter07: Imagine the lying liar, so what they see ISN'T REAL which means God is deceiving them. A frail man can't see God, a glorified man will see Him. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 10:59am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Emusan:" You cannot see my face, for NO MAN can see me and live " Exodus 33:20 . No man, No man , No man. O ma se o |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:10am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Barristter07: Yes NO FRAIL MAN can see God's face and live. People see God's face in vision. In fact God promised that people will see His face after He poured His Spirit on them Ezekiel 39:29 I will not hide My face from them any longer, for I will have poured out My Spirit on the house of Israel,” declares the Lord God. No wonder Jesus Christ says: If you love me and keep my commandments my Father and I will come and make OUR (plural) abode(singular) with the person. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:11am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Emusan:Are u contradicting yourself again bayii ? Frail isrealites men will see God , I thought u said Frail man can't see God Face wahala ma wa o God said No man, one idiot Said some men can . |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:15am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Barristter07: Oponu radarada.. Did you see where God said HE WILL POUR HIS SPIRIT ON THEM? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:17am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Emusan: And they are no longer frail Man they no longer sick and die. Ahhh Emusan , you need prayers. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:24am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Barristter07: See poor reasoning, no wonder I do say you lack simple comprehension. Why didn't God say they will see His face without pouring out the Spirit. Barristter07 the lying liar, you deliverance |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:31am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Emusan: And pouring the spirit make them Glorified human? Moses whom God told can't see his face and live doesn't Have God's spirit edakun ? wahala dey for trinitarians body |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:33am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Barristter07: This is my point again See poor reasoning, no wonder I do say you lack simple comprehension. Why didn't God say they will see His face without pouring out the Spirit Answer my question ode... |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:35am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Emusan: Moses doesn't have the same Spirit ? Does that make them Glorified human since they now see God ? Father restore his thinking cap |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:38am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Barristter07: But that verse says They'll see God's face after God pours His spirit on them. Devil never allows him to have his thinking cap. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:40am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Emusan: So they are now glorified human ? O ma se ooooo Moses doesn't have God's spirit? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:44am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Barristter07: The point of that verse is that Human with the help of God can see God's face ONLY FRAIL human can't. With the spirit of God in man, the person no long ordinary human. Reason Adam lost everything and afraid of coming to God's presence. MOSES was a frail man. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:52am On Dec 15, 2020 |
Emusan: No HuMAn can see God's face and live . Moses is no ordinary human, " And Jehovah came down in the cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the Spirit that was upon him, and put it upon the seventy elders: " Moses Spirit is so high that a little from him was comfortably shared among 70 elders . Yet he can't see his face . Those isrealites see Moses as a god. God knows Moses intimately. So what are you telling us ? Another scenario is the Fact that your joke just made those isrealites Glorified humans since you said only Glorified humans can see God. Glorified humans with flesh and blood. Guy 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 12:10pm On Dec 15, 2020 |
Barristter07: I can't help this That last part tho |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:29pm On Dec 15, 2020 |
Emusan! Emusan!! Emusan!!! If i say only JWs are the true Christian group you will start abusing and insulting me. I said i'm done with arguments, you brought what interest me and asked questions to know if you can explain further. Then the next thing is thinking about arguments when i actually wanted to more from you. Well that's the reason why i always tell you that JWs are the one and only group given the ability to preach and teach with mild temper and deep respect for those who pick interest in their words! Emusan: |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 1:47pm On Dec 16, 2020 |
Barristter07: If I ask you to provide where I said "ONLY GLORIFIED HUMANS can see God" now you'll be perambulating like a confused person. Like I do say, your lack of simple comprehension will continue to put you into more scriptural problems. MOSES and other people were empowered with the Holy Spirit at some point but that doesn't mean THEY MUST AUTOMATICALLY see God's face. The verse I quoted is to proof to you that when God wants a frail human to see Him and His face, He knows the best way to do that. One of it is through vision like John and Stephen Another one is the case where God put His Spirit on the elders to see His face. No man can see God's face is simply means no frail man in his ordinary nature can do that. Even when God wanted to reveal a part of Him to Moses, He had to cover MOSES face with His hand which is in form of anointing (like washing) his eyes to make it extraordinary eyes. Jesus said, "No one knows who the Father is except the Son and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, but the ONE THE SON CHOOSES to REVEAL HIM" Get Bible knowledge, it will help you you. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 1:55pm On Dec 16, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: Is it today you've been saying it and since you've been saying it, does it stop the work of God going in the lives of millions believers in the world? I said i'm done with arguments, you brought what interest me and asked questions to know if you can explain further. Then the next thing is thinking about arguments when i actually wanted to more from you. So you can know more from apostates but we all know it's a pure lies. Just say you hide behind your keyboard and when your lying spirit can't take it anymore since you don't have life outside Nairaland, so you develop the pulse and can't resist the urge to comment. Well that's the reason why i always tell you that JWs are the one and only group given the ability to preach and teach with mild temper and deep respect for those who pick interest in their words! Keep saying it, the day you'll stop saying it is the day your delusion will be cured. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:34pm On Dec 16, 2020 |
Jesus knew that the Pharisees are against him yet he welcomed Nicodemus {John 3:1-2} and went visiting these religious fanatics when they invite him into their homes {Luke14:1} at least you've heard me say it times without number that i left Islam for Jehovah's Witnesses so why doubt the efficacy of your teaching in convincing the same person who left one religion for another due to his Love for truth? Surely you don't have anything to offer like JWs that's why you're only out to accuse them, i gave you the benefit of doubt by asking you what seems interesting in your comments. Do you think dedicated and strong people just jump into one religion without a tough fight for their former religion? Let me tell you today, i gave the JWs the toughest times asking all manner of questions while trying to defend my former beliefs as a Muslim. Definitely apart from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES none of you churchgoers could have survived those tough arguments i put off against JWs back then. Do you know that it took me over two solid decades before i finally surrendered to become one of them? So how do you now think i should just agree with cowards like you who hides behind faceless social media to argue baselessly without presenting any group when there are in fact over 41,000 different religions all claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines? My guy JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have it, they'll remain the one and only group in flying colors {Matthew 5:13-16} when all of you keep hiding your religion in shame {Revelation 6:16-17} You can start raining your abuses and insults as usual, it has no substance since you don't have the spirit to preach and teach with mild temper and deep respect! 1Peter 3:15 Emusan: |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 4:30pm On Dec 16, 2020 |
Emusan: The question was asked at 10:18am , December 15 , Can ANY human see God Face and live ? To which you replied " Yes! After ressurection " Which means seeing God is reserved for Glorified humans. This Prompt the question of Moses and other being glorified.
According to Jesus, No MAN has seen God at ANYTIME.
Where is it written that he put his spirit on the Elders to see his Face ? Shebi it means no frail Man can, provide the verse .
Moses and the Elders , none of them saw his Face , the case of Moses it was specifically written that Moses saw his back " Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen. ” The Almighty cannot lie, no man can see him and Live . His Face must not be seen by an human. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 4:41pm On Dec 16, 2020 |
Barristter07: Yet you can't provide where I said ONLY glorified humans can see God. My Yes! After resurrection is to your previous post where you said those in heaven can't be human since they will see God's face. You can see how deluded and lack of simple comprehension you are now. According to Jesus, No MAN has seen God at ANYTIME. Yes! Except the one the Son chooses to reveal Him. Stephen while stoning to death saw God. People saw God in the vision. Moses and the Elders , none of them saw his Face , the case of Moses it was specifically written that Moses saw his back So the scripture was a lie when God says they will see His face when He put His Holy Spirit on them. God isn't a liar but your deluded brain is the problem here. Yes no man can see God's face and live but God can reveal Himself to who ever He wants. Many people saw God in a vision, at least you can't deny that. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 4:55pm On Dec 16, 2020 |
Barristter07:God was referring to the natural man not the new creation. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 5:01pm On Dec 16, 2020 |
Barristter07:The fact is, a man lived 20 minutes without blood, one of the reason why Jesus body was glorious was because it lived without blood, the point is that if science could make it possible for human body to live for 20 minutes without blood how much more God. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:03pm On Dec 16, 2020 |
Na wah o! Why did you edit this post nah! So you just feel like arguing with JWs! You said "Yes man can see God and live" The point is "no man can see God and live" that's what the scriptures says! livingchrist: |
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