Hmmmm well I live in Qatar with good Job. Many Nigerian women in Qatar does nothing, they just stay at home. School fees in Qatar are very expensive from kindergarten to secondary school. They pay monthly, like kindergarten they pay 2500rial=312500naira monthly. Another one, Qatar does not give citizenship. My wife stayed for 1year without a job, she always stay indoors because there is no place to go. One can not visit someone without informing the person, because Qatar is a Muslim country. One day my wife told me she is not staying in Qatar again, if she stays she will get mad staying indoors, That she will go back to Nigeria with our son to start something doing. She will prefer visiting Qatar than living in Qatar. The reason why am saying this is that everyone abroad want to return to Nigeria because the suffering is everywhere, but Nigeria suffering is 200%.

Klass99:


The topic/thread reminds me of what my father said to me 2 or 3 years ago.

He asked me if I had a man or serious relationship in my life at the time. I said not really because the guy I was dating then was speaking one kind of spanish I didn't like or understand. Dude was talking about having 4 kids.

When my dad heard this he laughed and said two kids are more than enough in this age and time, things are not going to get better in our country or the world at large. Children are also going to be more stubborn and difficult to manage, than ever before. Coming from a man who had seven kids of his own, I didn't doubt him at all. Now look at what's happening in our country not just with SARS protests, but the economy and polity as a whole.

That same guy who was mouthing off about having four kids, kept going on and on, about the cost of baby food, diapers etc when I last saw him. He wouldn't shut up about how much he spends and the high cost of things. I just said this is your first child and you are complaining like this, what will you do when the other 3 come? Or have you forgotten you are on a mission to have 4 children?

How many kids dyou have now?

Litmus:
As someone born abroad and whose formative years were in Nigeria, I would advice Nigerians to let their children grow up in Nigeria. Characters formed in Nigeria are unbeatable. Beyond the ages of 12 it is safe to send them abroad to school if you wish. If I could influence the black world, I would have them send their children to their nations of “genetic” origin during the formative years. I would have African Americans send their children to grow up in Nigeria or other African nations or the Caribbean, between the ages of I to 13 year old. After this, return them to America, Europe or wherever in the world you choose. It is absolutely vital that you let your black child form their character in Africa before moving them abroad if you wish. In Africa, Nigeria is the best place.

Did you really go through the thread before typing?

Litmus:
As someone born abroad and whose formative years were in Nigeria, I would advice Nigerians to let their children grow up in Nigeria. Characters formed in Nigeria are unbeatable. Beyond the ages of 12 it is safe to send them abroad to school if you wish. If I could influence the black world, I would have them send their children to their nations of “genetic” origin during the formative years. I would have African Americans send their children to grow up in Nigeria or other African nations or the Caribbean, between the ages of I to 13 year old. After this, return them to America, Europe or wherever in the world you choose. It is absolutely vital that you let your black child form their character in Africa before moving them abroad if you wish. In Africa, Nigeria is the best place.

Unfortunately, most people won't understand your comment, which is understandable because they are in survival mode right now.

privaldo:


How is this connected to the thread?

Read it again, now slowly.

Litmus:
If you bring up your children in the West, between the ages of 1 to 13, they will be fundamentally Lilly livered and foolish. They will be deeply shallow. This is whether they end up in high paying jobs or in criminality. Let your children grow up in Nigeria during their formative years at least. If you want, and are able, then send them abroad in their teens.

This is a shallow mindset. There are responsible kids outside the shores of Africa, who are not "lilly livered" and there are also kids raised in Nigeria who are psychos, so your argument is baseless.

Heartlessbanker:
begging and some minor jobs

how does he pay his rents, or is he related to the landlord

tensazangetsu20:

Men bros i don't know how married people are doing it o. If a single person is struggling how about people with kids and a wife.

my brother na God oo! I have four kids but God has been faithful to us, but my fear is my children future! As for me I am working and the salary takes care of our basic needs at the moment, my worries is how will they survive if am not there.

to be sincere, have been ruminating about this issue, I can't allow my children to go through this problem we are facing in this country, am seeking for opportunity for them to leave this country

ADUKKY:
I have 2 children and that's all i intend to have. It's not easy raising children in this country especially if you have a standard you want for them. My son watches a lot of international documentaries and i see how eager and enthusiastic he gets anytime he is watching. Honestly i fear for the generation to come.

God shall provide abundantly for you to take care of them and continuing to bless them

I always have this believe and hope that everything will be fine someday, everyone must not run out of the country now, if everyone start running away who will stay to make things right, no matter how tough and hard the country some people are still doing well here, so just know what u want in life and chose very well..

I Dey even fear my own future not to talk of my unborn children

wellmax:


Read it again, now slowly.

If they only read more positive news about the country and forget the negative part don't you think, what they are doing is equivalent to living in "wonderland". They are only shielding themselves from the reality on ground, and it will them whether they like it, or not.

nope

ecomalchemist:
Wahala for who no get money to relocate commot naija ooo..

Just get ready to pay school fees for your kids till they are in thier 20's..feeding, transportation, housing...make you come dey live for Lagos again..

Nothing seems to work in this country, wise up and use your head if you don't want to remain in perpetual poverty.

I'm telling you.

And no be small money oh

Klass99:




That same guy who was mouthing off about having four kids, kept going on and on, about the cost of baby food, diapers etc when I last saw him. He wouldn't shut up about how much he spends and the high cost of things. I just said this is your first child and you are complaining like this, what will you do when the other 3 come? Or have you forgotten you are on a mission to have 4 children?

Wahala for who dey highly fertile

tensazangetsu20:

Men bros i don't know how married people are doing it o. If a single person is struggling how about people with kids and a wife.

TWO GOOD HEADS, ARE BETTER THAN ONE.
(Emphasis on "Good Heads", even one Bad head is more than enough trouble).

Your Spouse can be your best asset or your worst nightmare, he/she can make or mar your life.
When one is down, the other can assist, they can plan together, they can encourage and lift each other up....... those are the good sides ofcourse, and we know those are less than 10% of the true-life cases.
Choose wisely.

I bless God for my Spouse.

"This country is beyond Redemption"
The above popular phrase is completely False,
If you believe you can make 'Heaven' as a Nigerian.

armyofone:
Even if you have the money, how can you do that relocation when foreign countries are making it strict and stressful?

If no good job, don't marry or have kids!
Take care of yourself first and make sure you cross all your Ts and Is (stable job).

my brother. The laws are getter more and more strict by the day. Ielts is just a format for poor people. They are really making money from us. The real relocation lies in having money. If you have one million dollar today to invest in Canada's economy, you don't need any stewpeed score in ielts. Its all about different levels of migration.

privaldo:


If they only read more positive news about the country and forget the negative part don't you think, what they are doing is equivalent to living in "wonderland". They are only shielding themselves from the reality on ground, and it will them whether they like it, or not.

Let hopes, not fears, define your future.

Hope is being able to see that there is light despite all of the darkness.

Instead of worrying about what you cannot control, shift your energy to what you can create

Attitude is a choice. Happiness is a choice. Optimism is a choice. Kindness is a choice. Giving is a choice. Respect is a choice. Whatever choice you make makes you. Choose wisely.

If you do not have an actual plan or resources to relocate..., choose to live well in Nigeria. For that to happen, you have to think well about Nigeria.
As a man thinketh

CanadianNaija:


Omo! You’re negative sha. I think Nigeria will definitely get better.

The people that would have changed the country are worst
They have seen too much. They are hard beaten already.

MedicH:
The thoughts that my kids will one day stay at home or out of the streets protesting because of ASUU strike gives me depression. I don't have and kids now and not yet married.

You should not plan to send your kids to government schools in Nigeria with the way things are going

Many will people think their father has the smallest farm in the village until they visit other people's farm. Nigeria may be in a deep situation right now but even at that we're better than other nations especially in here Africa. I'm not a buhari supporter but our democracy and freedom better pass some other country.
There is money in Nigeria, but we don't know how to manage the resources to make wealth. All the billions that politicians are looting does not come from thin air, it's from the country, let us get it back!. The are planning to leave this country and so are the commoners, if everyone leaves who will develop Nigeria? The Chinese?
National development is down-upward movement. If all we citizens do is to sulk and curse the nation and the black race, Nigeria will remain the same or worse in 30years. How many people pray for the nation and it's leaders or at least say "God bless Nigeria?" If the little factors of our society are messed up then the big things like education, healthcare, economy, security, roads, housing etc will be messed up. We say "corrupt politicians, corrupt politicians" but I tell you, some ordinary Nigerian are worse, they just haven't gotten the chance.
How many of us have stood up and voiced against the series of injustice and misconduct like child abuse happening in our local communities?
How many people are interested in local community development?
Every great nation was built by it's people not the government. Let us fight for what is ours and invest in our nation positively or else those sneaky Chinese imperialists would get richer and powerful by feeding on our resources, but by then it won't be problem of the buhari and the politicians we're insulting.
Nigeria would be great if we desire it to be. Not just by mere words. God bless Nigeria.

tensazangetsu20:

Me I don't even like western anglophone nations like that. I am absolutely fine with Mexico, South America, and all of Asia. South American nations exclusive of Venezuela and Ecuador get money die. Strong passports, amazing food, and beautiful women. Mexico is no brainer it's in the richest continent on earth. One can be in Mexico and build for the American consumer. It is literally just over the border.

how is the process of relocation

Uhhm,I have 2 kids, and I decided to stop there,age of 9f and 6m,my wife still begging me to have one more,l too begging her to let us stop there,God have bless us with both gender,am a Uber driver,,in this Lagos maddness tracffic city,now I have no car with me,am just managing my family, nobody will force me to born again,let me cook them with quality education and look up to how to get them out of this country.Nigeria have serious journey to go.......

donchibe:
Hmmmm well I live in Qatar with good Job. Many Nigerian women in Qatar does nothing, they just stay at home. School fees in Qatar are very expensive from kindergarten to secondary school. They pay monthly, like kindergarten they pay 2500rial=312500naira monthly. Another one, Qatar does not give citizenship. My wife stayed for 1year without a job, she always stay indoors because there is no place to go. One can not visit someone without informing the person, because Qatar is a Muslim country. One day my wife told me she is not staying in Qatar again, if she stays she will get mad staying indoors, That she will go back to Nigeria with our son to start something doing. She will prefer visiting Qatar than living in Qatar. The reason why am saying this is that everyone abroad want to return to Nigeria because the suffering is everywhere, but Nigeria suffering is 200%.

hahahaha

Boss! Thanks for your comment

The same thing in some places in Northern Nigeria.

IamGreen1:


Be misleading people with your thinking o, since when have we been hoping that Nigeria is going to get better but instead it's getting worse everyday by everyday. Boss don't trust in Nigeria getting better anymore but individual improving themselves anyhow they can for the sake of our unborn kids but not necessarily wanting to leave the country at all cost, we can still be the best we've always inspire to be while in the country but with maximum hard-working, being focus that will lead us to our goals of being successful.

The country hard no be small, I can't stop thinking about everything happening in this country right now, it saddens my heart and weaken my soul.

Me too. It depresses me. My girlfriend doesn't know why I'm emotionally unavailable. We are not living human standard here in Nigeria. I can't talk of marriage and shes approaching 30. I'm really sad

Mjpem23:
I Dey even fear my own future not to talk of my unborn children

I have No fear for myself or my Children, God has taken care of that and l give Him all the glory.

But l have serious fear for Nigeria and other Nigerians.
I love Nigeria but l worry that with the way the country is being managed, especially since 2015 (The Nepotism, the Kidnappings, the Fulani Herdsmen Slaughters all over the place, the Boko Haram technical defeat, the mindless Looting and Corruption, the Endless Borrowing by this President, etc), l think something catastrophic is going to happen VERY SOON.
I hope it does not.

#EndSARS Protest was meant to avert such disaster and plan a new course but those in Power saw it as a challenge to their Authority and aborted it, instead of using it to galvanise the Youths and others into Action and Patriotism, themselves leading by example.

In a Country where a Minister uses $1.6 to buy Spoons. Some are looting the country into collapse, how them can such country have a future?

Litmus:


As someone born abroad and whose formative years were in Nigeria, I would advice Nigerians to let their children grow up in Nigeria. Characters formed in Nigeria are unbeatable. Beyond the ages of 12 it is safe to send them abroad to school if you wish. If I could influence the black world, I would have them send their children to their nations of “genetic” origin during the formative years. I would have African Americans send their children to grow up in Nigeria or other African nations or the Caribbean, between the ages of I to 13 year old. After this, return them to America, Europe or wherever in the world you choose. It is absolutely vital that you let your black child form their character in Africa before moving them abroad if you wish. In Africa, Nigeria is the best place.

Many may believe the above was written by someone who missed his medications ... or is high on something. I recommend you chew the above slowly and thoroughly..... get all the flavours out of it... then swallow and allow to digest... it is good for you.

Two things

1. Bend the tree when it is young
Abroad you cannot bend the tree as you like.... laws will restrict you from raising your child the way you desire... and if you insist...
your children can be taken away from you. Find out why people
return on vacation with their kids then go back without them.

2. Africa period... is about family.... sharing.... our immediate family... extended family... tribe... not nationality... tribe.... it is our culture. Our children are raised abroad they are raised in the culture of self... individualism..... every man for himself.

Guy knows what he is saying.

tensazangetsu20:
Nairalanders Who Of Recent Have Kids In Nigeria. Do You Fear For Their Future?

Nigeria is in a terrible state the worst state it has ever been. Youth unemployment of over 80 percent. Low wages. The world's poverty capital. Crippling hunger and insane food inflation. With all this problems here and there, a few of my friends have vowed never to have kids till they escape from the country but I still see young small children here and there who were born 1 to 3 years ago.

Nairalanders who recently had kids how do you feel about your kids? Do you worry about their future or are you optimistic that Nigeria might become a better place in the future for your children. How do you also take care of them with the rising cost of everything from transport to food, rent and all basic necessities?

The way my expenses is increasing these days is second to none. I pray things continue to flourish for me by God's grace.

MisterRuk:
Many will people think their father has the smallest farm in the village until they visit other people's farm. Nigeria may be in a deep situation right now but even at that we're better than other nations especially in here Africa. I'm not a buhari supporter but our democracy and freedom better pass some other country.
There is money in Nigeria, but we don't know how to manage the resources to make wealth. All the billions that politicians are looting does not come from thin air, it's from the country, let us get it back!. The are planning to leave this country and so are the commoners, if everyone leaves who will develop Nigeria? The Chinese?
National development is down-upward movement. If all we citizens do is to sulk and curse the nation and the black race, Nigeria will remain the same or worse in 30years. How many people pray for the nation and it's leaders or at least say "God bless Nigeria?" If the little factors of our society are messed up then the big things like education, healthcare, economy, security, roads, housing etc will be messed up. We say "corrupt politicians, corrupt politicians" but I tell you, some ordinary Nigerian are worse, they just haven't gotten the chance.
How many of us have stood up and voiced against the series of injustice and misconduct like child abuse happening in our local communities?
How many people are interested in local community development?

Nigeria would be great if we desire it to be. Not just by mere words. God bless Nigeria.

Many Nigerians in their twenties and early thirties did that when they were young, today, wetin dem gain? What has changed? BTW, are you saying that prayers develop a country?