Every penny counts

Aphrodite007:


These are the kind of friends I’m looking for

You’re not serious noni

deept:


It doesn't matter these days o

Good day guys. I'm currently studying business education in Nigeria, by God grace I hope to leave here next year.



Is my course good to study? Will it have negative influence in my academics? And what are the job prospects studying it?.

Igbosmoker:
Good day guys. I'm currently studying business education in Nigeria, by God grace I hope to leave here next year.



Is my course good to study? Will it have negative influence in my academics? And what are the job prospects studying it?.

First things first;
Who chose the course for you?
Did you choose it yourself or someone else did?
In my opinion, we should be the ones asking you because you know about the course, more than we all do. We all hear about the course, you are in it, hence you should know it more than us.

RalphJean:


First things first;
Who chose the course for you?
Did you choose it yourself or someone else did?
In my opinion, we should be the ones asking you because you know about the course, more than we all do. We all hear about the course, you are in it, hence you should know it more than us.

I applied for economics and statistics as my first choice, then business administration as my second, you know how nigerian university behaves, they changed it and put me in business education.

Now I'm planning to leave nigeria, I've no idea if the course I'm studying will be profitable for me when I get there (I'm currently in 200 level in nigeria).

You are very correct.
He asked me to move over to Nigeria with my family to prove a point, but the fact is that you dont know why i am here in the UK and you dont know my plans either. I could be studying, working as an expatriate for a multinational corporation, lecturing, doing research or smth.

Your point is my point too. There is no standard to it. If anyone says Nigeria is paying them, let them be. If anyone says UK is paying them, let them stay. And if anyone has been to UK and prefer to return to Nigeria, dont see them as defeated or losers. While if anyone has always been in Nigeria and wants to migrate to UK by all cost, dont call then desperate. Different strokes for different folks.

All we can do as people who have travelled is to offer real time advice and allow people to make their choices.

Shalom

Poch:
Sorry to intrude, but this argument is a no-brainer and uncalled for.

This is one of those rare situations where you are both right!

It is tougher to earn and save in the UK for low income earners...whose equivalent would thrive extremely well in Nigeria...no doubt.
However, there are socio-economic and security perks that could also influence a choice of abode.

It finally boils down to individual situations and choices...and will be very wrong to try impose your personal situations/experiences as a standard that must be seen as right/true and followed.

Truly, you are both right... but should also try be discerning and empathize regarding other people's opinions.
There is no standard to this thing!

My 2 cents.

Igbosmoker:
I applied for economics and statistics as my first choice, then business administration as my second, you know how nigerian university behaves, they changed it and put me in business education.

Now I'm planning to leave nigeria, I've no idea if the course I'm studying will be profitable for me when I get there (I'm currently in 200 level in nigeria).

Just random question:

if we say it’s not a good course will you change it?

Aphrodite007:


Just random question:

if we say it’s not a good course will you change it?

maybe.

It seems it's only doctors, law and IT related courses that's profitable outside nigeria.

I don't want to be carrying a useless degree

Igbosmoker:
maybe.

It seems it's only doctors, law and IT related courses that's profitable outside nigeria.

I don't want to be carrying a useless degree

You already started.

The thing they don't seem to emphasis with degrees in Nigeria is the transferable skills that comes with almost all degree courses.
After your degree you can easily pivot to IT for example either with a certificate course or full Masters

Igbosmoker:
maybe.

It seems it's only doctors, law and IT related courses that's profitable outside nigeria.

I don't want to be carrying a useless degree

I wish we could go to a quiet place by the sea side and have some nice wine and I'll tell you how comical life is. It would be a perfect time to condemn my last bottle of the Grand Constance (Groot Constantia). I'll go down memory lane to show you how the pursuit of a course of study has trapped many friends and acquaintances.

I'll show you real life examples of the so called professionals even those working in the multinationals and how incomparable they are to the 'riff raffs' who read language courses and those odd courses in Arts that universities introduced to give some people that had been Jambed hope in life and who have now made immense sense of their lives.

Infact many of these 'riff raffs' have done well for themselves and are creating value across the country especially in job creation and poverty eradication. Many of the perfect graduates are today working for these 'riff raffs'.

Please note these:
1. There is no useless course in life. The essence of education is to stimulate your creative thinking.

2. Don't come to the abroad with the mindset to work. It's good to come over for exposure and to observe what sanity and serenity looks like but please don't come here to work with a qualification as your main and only goal. You would end up very frustrated in life. Coming here with a prepared mindset enables you to explore the infinite hidden opportunities and maximise them fully. When your eye is single, your whole body will be full of light!

3. Don't hop around looking for the best courses to study. Courses and skillsets are getting obsolete very fast. While you are in Nigeria why not make the best of that education degree and experience and finish with a 2.1. Use your spare time to build side skills and side hustle. Try out different things - business and ideas and learn. When you come here for whatever purpose, you will be able to leverage this environment to give meaning and life to your skill and business ideas.

Yesterday, it was OK to just learn something and you'd be fine for life. Today if you have a limited scope about life you would suffer. Try out different things and keep tabs of the UK and other exciting countries of interest and routes to coming in. I have acquaintances who are coming around for MSc programmes now simply because of the post study work visa. They do not need the degree but are leveraging the extra years to bring their families here, open up businesses across import/export, trading, crypto etc., accessing cheap credits, venturing into other markets across Africa, Europe, North America using the UK as their base and are doing OK for themselves.

Rather than wasting time pursuing that perfect course, use the knowledge and skills you acquire along the way to create wealth for yourself when you get to a sane environment.

Lastly, you'd be fine. No rush in life. Take it one step at a time and enjoy every stage in life. Do your best at each stage but overall be very optimistic and ambitious about life.

Goodluck.

Igbosmoker:
maybe.

It seems it's only doctors, law and IT related courses that's profitable outside nigeria.

I don't want to be carrying a useless degree

Hahaha you’re funny, so you’ll leave your 200L because your course is “useless”, lol. Anyway, You can mix that business with tech (my background is tech but practice business).. Or do IT, since you’ve admitted that Tech is one of the “profitable” courses.

Just to correct you. Those courses are special outside Nigeria, not because they are “profitable”, but because they are in the shortage list.

Anything business studies is what you can make out of it yourself... It is not a straight into a job course unless you combine it with let's say languages or IT or any master's degree of value... After that, you still have to be at the top of your game with transferrable skills and ability to market yourself.

Having said all that; if you were to be a citizen, you already have yourself a course with a job - all you have to do is a PGCE and then get a job as a teacher.

I don't think teachers are that short in supply to employ foreign ones but I don't know... That is why I said being a citizen might help in that regard... Supply or Casual teaching after you PGCE is also an option but can you remain in the country as a supply teacher for years?

Very well said...
Exact point I was trying to make...
Good tidings my people.

donbuscka:
You are very correct.
He asked me to move over to Nigeria with my family to prove a point, but the fact is that you dont know why i am here in the UK and you dont know my plans either. I could be studying, working as an expatriate for a multinational corporation, lecturing, doing research or smth.

Your point is my point too. There is no standard to it. If anyone says Nigeria is paying them, let them be. If anyone says UK is paying them, let them stay. And if anyone has been to UK and prefer to return to Nigeria, dont see them as defeated or losers. While if anyone has always been in Nigeria and wants to migrate to UK by all cost, dont call then desperate. Different strokes for different folks.

All we can do as people who have travelled is to offer real time advice and allow people to make their choices.

Shalom

Aphrodite007:


Hahaha you’re funny, so you’ll leave your 200L because your course is “useless”, lol. Anyway, You can mix that business with tech (my background is tech but practice business).. Or do IT, since you’ve admitted that Tech is one of the “profitable” courses.

Just to correct you. Those courses are special outside Nigeria, not because they are “profitable”, but because they are in the shortage list.

thanks so much ma. May God continue to bless you.

Chukwuka16:


I wish we could go to a quiet place by the sea side and have some nice wine and I'll tell you how comical life is. It would be a perfect time to condemn my last bottle of the Grand Constance (Groot Constantia). I'll go down memory lane to show you how the pursuit of a course of study has trapped many friends and acquaintances.

I'll show you real life examples of the so called professionals even those working in the multinationals and how incomparable they are to the 'riff raffs' who read language courses and those odd courses in Arts that universities introduced to give some people that had been Jambed hope in life and who have now made immense sense of their lives.

Infact many of these 'riff raffs' have done well for themselves and are creating value across the country especially in job creation and poverty eradication. Many of the perfect graduates are today working for these 'riff raffs'.

Please note these:
1. There is no useless course in life. The essence of education is to stimulate your creative thinking.

2. Don't come to the abroad with the mindset to work. It's good to come over for exposure and to observe what sanity and serenity looks like but please don't come here to work with a qualification as your main and only goal. You would end up very frustrated in life. Coming here with a prepared mindset enables you to explore the infinite hidden opportunities and maximise them fully. When your eye is single, your whole body will be full of light!

3. Don't hop around looking for the best courses to study. Courses and skillsets are getting obsolete very fast. While you are in Nigeria why not make the best of that education degree and experience and finish with a 2.1. Use your spare time to build side skills and side hustle. Try out different things - business and ideas and learn. When you come here for whatever purpose, you will be able to leverage this environment to give meaning and life to your skill and business ideas.

Yesterday, it was OK to just learn something and you'd be fine for life. Today if you have a limited scope about life you would suffer. Try out different things and keep tabs of the UK and other exciting countries of interest and routes to coming in. I have acquaintances who are coming around for MSc programmes now simply because of the post study work visa. They do not need the degree but are leveraging the extra years to bring their families here, open up businesses across import/export, trading, crypto etc., accessing cheap credits, venturing into other markets across Africa, Europe, North America using the UK as their base and are doing OK for themselves.

Rather than wasting time pursuing that perfect course, use the knowledge and skills you acquire along the way to create wealth for yourself when you get to a sane environment.

Lastly, you'd be fine. No rush in life. Take it one step at a time and enjoy every stage in life. Do your best at each stage but overall be very optimistic and ambitious about life.

Goodluck.

wow what a great words. Thanks I'm grateful. It look like I'm still suffering from that nigerian mentality

DisGuy:


You already started.

The thing they don't seem to emphasis with degrees in Nigeria is the transferable skills that comes with almost all degree courses.
After your degree you can easily pivot to IT for example either with a certificate course or full Masters

thanks sir. Your words are appreciated

I read alot on people's concept of equivalence and truth is,ITS NOT THE SAME. I left a 450k monthly job to come down to the UK. Any regrets, maybe sometimes but truth is if u look at the Naira and it's purchasing power within its own country, you are still not so comfortable. Yes I had to start from Ground Zero with high hopes,(700 quid takes care of rent, tax and bills) and there's room for saving more than half of that after all my expenses. Now can a person earning 500k comfortably save 300k in Nigeria with family to take care of. What works for Ada doesn't and must not work for Obi. If you think with 500k in Nigeria you're living large toh good for you(and as rightly mentioned only 5-10 percent of Nigerians earn that monthly LEGALLY). A more balanced approach will be equating 500k Naira earner with the 5-10 percentiles earners here in the UK and thats when u will do proper justice to your comparism

Poch:
See the reason why you are more interested in wining an argument than actually having a conversation?

When on earth did I mention that a 500k earner hit a jackpot by earning £15k in the UK?

My brother/sister, bless you o...
But try calm down, if you must respond, read slowly and try understand what a post is saying.

I feel you just more interested in arguing a point.

And this is me not really arguing with you but identifying gaps in your rendition of my penned-down thoughts... Isn't it funny?

Hi Guys,

Merry Christmas in Advance and hope you all are doing great!

A good friend of mine is about to use his entire savings ( well enough to cover the necessary financial obligations) to migrate to the U.K using the student visa route.

I would love to ask on his behalf, from experienced folks here if the move is really worth it.

What are his chances of further settling in the UK? From what I have read so far the UK is not so friendly via immigration.

He has a Bsc in architecture and have toiled to raise the funds. I'm just too concerned and wouldn't want him to make a mistake.

P.S: I know this is not the right thread for this question but wouldn't mind if a jolly fellow educates us.

Thank you!

Igbosmoker:
maybe.

It seems it's only doctors, law and IT related courses that's profitable outside nigeria.

I don't want to be carrying a useless degree

Remove law from that list.
Leave the other two.
Just so we don't give our lawyer friends too much hope o.

TheGuyFromHR:


Remove law from that list.
Leave the other two.
Just so we don't give our lawyer friends too much hope o.

Hahaha this HR guy sef, your human relations doesn’t have the “human” part

Fuhrerfran6:
Hi Guys,

Merry Christmas in Advance and hope you all are doing great!

A good friend of mine is about to use his entire savings ( well enough to cover the necessary financial obligations) to migrate to the U.K using the student visa route.

I would love to ask on his behalf, from experienced folks here if the move is really worth it.

What are his chances of further settling in the UK? From what I have read so far the UK is not so friendly via immigration.

He has a Bsc in architecture and have toiled to raise the funds. I'm just too concerned and wouldn't want him to make a mistake.

P.S: I know this is not the right thread for this question but wouldn't mind if a jolly fellow educates us.

Thank you!

Arch is good, not sure he can match up with Arch’s here because the ones I know here have mad IT skill, while the ones I know in Naija.. leemao (don’t mind me, I’m generalising). Also, I can’t say that Arch is on the shortage list (google to find out) but...

A masters here will give him 2 years post study- so it may not be a bad investment if he isn’t working in Nigeria.

What he wants to study for his masters is up to him and his skills (but tech is pervasive so I encourage everyone to learn a tech skill).

If he has any more questions, there’s a student thread that may be more helpful- sorry I don’t know the link but I heard it’s bubbling for students (hehe!)

Aphrodite007:


Arch is good, not sure he can match up with Arch’s here because the ones I know here have mad IT skill, while the ones I know in Naija.. leemao (don’t mind me, I’m generalising). Also, I can’t say that Arch is on the shortage list (google to find out) but...

A masters here will give him 2 years post study- so it may not be a bad investment if he isn’t working in Nigeria.

What he wants to study for his masters is up to him and his skills (but tech is pervasive so I encourage everyone to learn a tech skill).

If he has any more questions, there’s a student thread that may be more helpful- sorry I don’t know the link but I heard it’s bubbling for students (hehe!)

Thank you so much.

Hello Fam, please I'm new in the UK (6weeks). Pls apart from care job what other option is available for full time students abeg I need information and guidance pls.

Igbosmoker:
maybe.

It seems it's only doctors, law and IT related courses that's profitable outside nigeria.

I don't want to be carrying a useless degree

In your list, I would replace doctors with the major healthcare professions i.e. doctors, dentists, pharmacists, nurses. I would also remove law from the list. I'm not saying law isn't a good profession in the UK, but the only lawyers I have seen earning good pay are the QCs and above. I would also add engineers to the list. If I were you, I would go on the UK shortage occupation list and align my career focus in line with the roles on that list.

Good evening, all.

I intend to start applying for a social care work jobs in the UK from Nigeria, what are my chances of getting any? I have considerable skills in the field and I studied social work at a university here in Nigeria.


TIA.

TheLasyBuddha:
Good evening, all.

I intend to start applying for a social care work jobs in the UK from Nigeria, what are my chances of getting any? I have considerable skills in the field and I studied social work at a university here in Nigeria.


TIA.

Do you have uk number or how will they interview you? If they need you to to work immediately?

Or you are going for a full time job?

Jesus Christ! I laughed hard just now as I saw this! Oga HR, were you once upon a time, a practsing lawyer?
No wonder you like argument

TheGuyFromHR:


Remove law from that list.
Leave the other two.
Just so we don't give our lawyer friends too much hope o.