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Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by Etinosa1234: 11:45pm On Dec 30, 2020
marsman:

Who cares about one Victor, who trusted one Nyanmiri Osu bastard, but was later betrayed. The major point, is Black Scorpion redisigning your grandpa's and his brothers flat head, with his never missing Bullets.

Why are u so harsh?

Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by marsman: 11:45pm On Dec 30, 2020
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Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by LukasPodolski: 11:47pm On Dec 30, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:


The best part of Aba is a market? He didn't do justice to Enyimba city yet you messed up your rebuttal.

Bro, hide your face abeg.
What is new here?

Aba, an emblematic of failure.

Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by gwafaeziokwu: 11:49pm On Dec 30, 2020
LukasPodolski:

You can help him out.

By showing us the dirtiest city in the world.

Bros, can you help me with pictures of Universities, airport, roads, Pubs, malls e.tc in Aba?



I don't need to help him out. He has done his job. cheesy
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by NwaAro: 11:52pm On Dec 30, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:



grin

You didn't read his post well. His father lived to his old age and died with a smug smile, knowing that he sent a double dealing shady and unreliable specimen to his maker.

If you want to brag about the psychopath called Black Scorpion, look for a people in present day south south. The Yoruba numb skull couldn't do Nada in the Eastern heartland which was the main theatre. His myth is carried by only his loudmouthed brothers. No body knows him down here. grin
Pardon the dunce, he's Yoruba afterall so his knowledge of history or lack thereof is quite honestly jaundiced. Adekunle the midget narcissistic was only noted and infamous for his military " genius"and" exploits" mostly in the coastal areas of the COR namely Calabar, Ogoja, and Rivers areas... and that was mostly due to the massive help he got from those minority areas than any brilliant leadership on his part. Yet when the ungrateful little cunt got into those minority areas, his way of saying thank you for helping us was to indiscriminately shoot at innocent unarmed civilians mostly women and children... it's a known fact that he got envious of Major Isaac Boro and his 16th Brigade unit of mostly Ijaw soldiers who were actually doing the real dirty work of fighting Biafran soldiers in the creeks while the useless Yoruba and Hausa soldiers stayed back in the rear to do "mop up" operations after Boro's men had done all the hard work... that's how Boro lost so many men and when he protested and complained about the unfair treatment of his unit... he later got killed mysteriously at Okrika front (even though it was confirmed that Adekunle had him killed) as he saw Boro as a stubborn pest and threat to his chauvistic greed for glory and empire.

Now when Adekunle was done with operations in the minority areas where he had it relatively easy thanks to tacit supports from these minority leaders and of course Boro...the idiot thought he would have it easy in the Ibo heartland itself...forgetting that we were definitely not going to let him have a stroll in the park without fighting for every inch of Igboland. Adekunle been the delusional clown that he was devised his grand OAU plan to simply capture Owerri, Aba and Umuahia in quick succession. He even devised his evil plans to "shoot anything that moves" in Iboland, can you imagine how evil someone could be?

He then advanced into Igboland, didn't get as far as Umuahia, got his behind handed to him at Aba and lost nearly 1/3 of his fighting force, got bogged down in Umuahia, managed to capture Owerri before losing it in less than 5 months...Adekunle lost about 60,000 men just in some insane yet ambitions plan to capture three small towns in quick succession, and of course he was relieved of his command of the 3 marine commandos and sent to work as a traffic control officer in Lagos. He was completely demystified in that failed operation in the core Igbo heartlands, and his air of invincibility was nothing more than a charade told in hushed tones and tales of whispers... lived the best part of his life a miserable lonely man and it was said at some point an Igbo was even feeding him. He died with no military honors or glory, even Ojukwu, a rebel received a far better military send off than the hero of Nigerias bloody war.

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Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by Dedetwo(m): 11:55pm On Dec 30, 2020
efficiencie:


The Ndigbos are a resourceful people. The average Ndigbo by default is a professional business person but it hurts me to see a people who have enough resources in their land to make them the envy of the world but they put themselves at the mercy of the FG. You speak of breaking out of Nigeria like it is that one silver bullet that would erase all your woes but that is very far from the truth.

The Ndigbos currently lack cohesion and her elite are not united in the common cause of advancing the collective interests of the Igbo nation.

One example is clearly evident. Northern governors created civilian JTF, Hisbah and other para military outfits to secure their interests. Yoruba governors swung into action and created Amotekun. Till tomorrow Ndigbo governors are doing nothing about securing their land. It had to take the intervention of Nnamdi Kanu, a fugitive of the FG, to create a paramilitary organisation to safeguard the interests of the Ndigbos, why? Why are your governors so slow? Yet in a couple of months time you all will troop to the polls again to vote in another set of Ndigbo governors who are spineless, ambitionless and useless to the actualization of the sovereign state of Biafra. Why do you guys do that to yourselves, why?

The formation of the outfits in the above bolded statements are unconstitutional endeavors. If Ndigbo had initiated such illegal formation of militia, Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri, Yoruba and federal government of Nigeria would have been up-in-arms shouting Ndigbo have come again with their trouble. You would have been the first to shout that Ndigbo are preparing to secede again. Even the outfit orchestrated by Nnamdi Kanu has turned heads in awkward position already in Nigeria. I am not surprise you have the effrontery to call Nnamdi Kanu a fugitive. What crime did he commit other than agitating for self rule without hurting a housefly.

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Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by marsman: 11:56pm On Dec 30, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:



A people who chose to fight on their feet than live on their knees should never be associated with the world fear.

Fear can be used to describe a race who had a once in a life window of opportunity in 1967 to became and independent state, but bungle it because the marauding Jihadists from the north was milling around Lagos.

Today, their offspring will have the boldness to brag about how a certain psychopath from their tribe helped to ensure that the future of their unborn generation would be damaged forever.

Who educated these guys bikonu grin


Lol i can't start explaining to you the conditions the west gave the North, to keep Nigeria as One, or how every body joint force to defeat the Igbos and teach them a Unforgettable lesson, they thought they could Lord them Selfs over others, but failed, after realizing, decided to head out of the contraption, they fought so hard to create, but was stopped by the other region, who were still in that Contraption, I already did that on the thread Educate Your self. Fight on the feet that wasted more than 3 million lifes bothe young and Old, such a small price to pay, for a freedom the was never Attained grin
If you know that you no dey fear, try what you tried back in 1966 again, show us how Courageous you crazy Lots are.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by LukasPodolski: 11:59pm On Dec 30, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:




I don't need to help him out. He has done his job. cheesy


Hahaha, the joke is on you.

show me pictures of ;
Aba University
Airport
Roads
malls
trains
recreational centres etcetera
you can't call a place that doesn't have the aforementioned a city.... proof me wrong.

I was right, the best part of Aba he showed is equivalent to Ibadan old town.

bye bye .
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by Dedetwo(m): 12:07am On Dec 31, 2020
jneutron4000:
Go and see the full video of that 2 mins video posted by Igbos to push their stupid propaganda and you will get the full gist. Ahmadu bello is not the Prime minister of Nigeria so why should he care more about what happened to the Westerners or Easterners? His is the Premier of the Northerns and his primary duty is for his people. If it was Tafawa Balewa now, then we can condemn his act because he is the Prime minister of Nigeria

Do you in any way or form insinuate the crap spewed by Ahmadu Bello was healthy for the unity of a newly created country?
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by jneutron4000: 12:11am On Dec 31, 2020
Dedetwo:


Do you in any way or form insinuate the crap spewed by Ahmadu Bello was healthy for the unity of a newly created country?
He is a Nationalist. FYI Nigeria is not a Nation but a country made up of many nationalities. Ahmadu obligation is for his people first which is not bad. Self preservation is not a crime.

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Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by Dedetwo(m): 12:15am On Dec 31, 2020
marsman:


I have met many Igbos who have tried to deny Nzeougwus Nationality, but the fact still remains, that Nzeougwu, was an Igbo man from delta state by Origin, and the coup conducted was 90% Igbos and some gullible Yorubas and Hausa's who were fooled to believe in the true course, the coup was never meant to Make Nigeria better, or Install Awolowo has the president as many claim, but to make sure Igbos headed Nigeria, since it doesn't seem like it will happen since the North took over, coup that was meant to get rid of every body, killed Leaders, in the North, and the West, but miraculously spared all there leaders in the east, and Azikwe, who was on vacation in the Caribbeans, got tipped by God to extend his stay a little longer. Hahaha, Logically this can't be denied to not be something conspired by the Igbos to Lord the Igbos over the rest of Nigeria, but you guys still find a way to deny it. Ironsi came after made all the power concentrate at his feet, making all other regional head useless, they protested against it and warned him against his unGodly act, which was welcomed by Igbo brothers who believed they can Lord over every thing like Ojukwu, the then head of the eastern region, but he refused, and he Got what he rightly deserved.
You can call Awolowo a bigot all you want, he was in the interest of his people, wanted a constitution that could allow his people to get out of the contraption when it is time, but zik wouldn't let that happen he seriously just had to preside over the affairs of the country, can i blame him for his greediness, Igbos initially never wanted to hear anything like secession in Nigeria because they so much believed, though falsely, that they were the most educated tribe. (The first Nigerian tribe to produce a university graduate is the Binis). As an evidence of Igbo domination agenda hence their initial resistance to the idea of secession; here are some quotes:
"From all indications, the god of us Igbos have destined us to rule the whole of Africa"..... Nnamdi Azikiwe (1945).
"It is getting clearer each day that Igbo domination of Nigeria is just a question of time"... Oscar Onyeamma. (1949).

Zik having being voted for in the south West is very Understandable, since he had Yoruba Candidates in his Party, Yorubas don't love your zik, don't force it on them.
Many thread have been created, here about different tribes rejecting the biafran Identity, the latest ones are the Ikwere people, who have presently rejected the Igbo Identity that they believe was forced on them. But you still believe in your millions, when Niger deltans are even thinking about there own republic, what is with the forced attache.

The above post is a load of rubbish. Even some names are incorrect and the logic very lunatic. Since after January 15, 1966, there have been more than one coup in Nigeria precipitated by elements of Nigerian army. How many of these successive coups have been colored with a particular ethnicity in Nigeria? If the answer to the above question is none, anybody who harbors the idea January 15, 1966 coup was an Igbo coup is basement fool.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by marsman: 12:22am On Dec 31, 2020
Dedetwo:


The above post is a load of rubbish. The some names are incorrect and logic very lunatic. Since after January 15, 1966, there have been more than one coup in Nigeria precipitated by elements of Nigerian army. How many of these successive coups have been colored with a particular ethnicity in Nigeria? If the answer to the above question is none, anybody who harbors the idea January 15, 1966 coup was an Igbo coup is basement fool.
Any body who think it isn't must be a big fool, and must i remind you that we are talking about the same coup that placed Nigeria in the retrogressive Position that it is to day, that coup was Igbo against the whole Country, where Igbo Leaders were spared but others were not so lucky.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by Dedetwo(m): 12:36am On Dec 31, 2020
marsman:

Any body who think it isn't must be a big fool, and must i remind you that we are talking about the same coup that placed Nigeria in the retrogressive Position that it is to day, that coup was Igbo against the whole Country, where Igbo Leaders were spared but others were not so lucky.

For the posterity sake, how many coups have been precipitated by the elements of Nigerians army after January 15, 1966? And how many of these coups have been baptized with one particular ethnicity in Nigeria? Only the moronic dingbats who tagged the coup with a particular ethnicity subjected Nigeria to retrogressive position, if any. I had to remind you if any subsequent coup was colored with a particular ethnicity and followed with the orgy of killing from another major ethnicity, the result would have been the same.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by Dedetwo(m): 12:41am On Dec 31, 2020
jneutron4000:
[b]He is a Nationalist. [/b]FYI Nigeria is not a Nation but a country made up of many nationalities. Ahmadu obligation is for his people first which is not bad. Self preservation is not a crime.

Are you okay? Where did you cull nation from my post? How could a seemingly nationalist spew such crap? Did he make any attempt to create a Republic of Fulani?
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by marsman: 12:46am On Dec 31, 2020
Dedetwo:


For the posterity sake, how many coups have been precipitated by the elements of Nigerians army after January 15, 1966? And how many of these coups have been baptized with one particular ethnicity in Nigeria? Only the moronic dingbats who tagged the coup with a particular ethnicity subjected Nigeria to retrogressive position, if any. I had to remind you if any subsequent coup was colored with a particular ethnicity and followed with the orgy of killing from another major ethnicity, the result would have been the same.
I don't know what brought the other coups in Nigeria into this. The structure of Nigeria, was different compared to the structure of Nigeria when other coups where coming into place, the system of Government Nigeria was practicing then, and the partiality in Execution of the various Government officials in a particular region of the Country, gave every body to right to term to be what it is.
How it placed Nigeria in a retrogressive society; Ahmed bello, never really supported the One Nigeria claim, in fact many people didn't, if we had left things like that, Nigeria would have separated successfully with No blood shed, Can it be argued, that it was not because of this very coup, that the event that was vividly against the igbos ,that happened after wards in the 60s happened?
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by Dedetwo(m): 12:54am On Dec 31, 2020
marsman:

I don't know what brought the other coups in Nigeria into this. The structure of Nigeria, was different compared to the structure of Nigeria when other coups where coming into place, the system of Government Nigeria was practicing then, and the partiality in Execution of the various Government officials in a particular region of the Country, gave every body to right to term to be what it is.

How silly can the bolded look? Of course you would not know because most Nigerians are basement hypocrites. They usually make noise on the subject matter that fans their tribal hatred for another. In addition, anything about Nigeria is half baked. The educational system in Nigeria is dilapidated and pupils tend learn what their tribal idiocy permits.

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Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by marsman: 12:58am On Dec 31, 2020
Dedetwo:


How silly can the bolded look? Of course you would not know because most Nigerians are basement hypocrites. They usually make noise on the subject matter that fans their tribal hatred for another. In addition, anything about Nigeria is half baked. The educational system in Nigeria is dilapidated and pupils tend learn what their tribal idiocy permits.
Read the rest, i don't know what brought it up, but i explained the difference, young man
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by Dedetwo(m): 1:03am On Dec 31, 2020
marsman:

I don't know what brought the other coups in Nigeria into this. The structure of Nigeria, was different compared to the structure of Nigeria when other coups where coming into place, the system of Government Nigeria was practicing then, and the partiality in Execution of the various Government officials in a particular region of the Country, gave every body to right to term to be what it is.
How it placed Nigeria in a retrogressive society; Ahmed bello, never really supported the One Nigeria claim, in fact many people didn't, if we had left things like that, Nigeria would have separated successfully with No blood shed, Can it be argued, that it was not because of this very coup, that the event that was vividly against the igbos ,that happened after wards in the 60s happened?


The bolded is complete nonsense. The same disciples of Ahmadu Bello fought a war of attrition to keep Nigeria as a union. Why would Igbo collectively decide to stage a coup when things in Nigeria during the era in discussion were within their reach?
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by jneutron4000: 1:17am On Dec 31, 2020
Dedetwo:


Are you okay? Where did you cull nation from my post? How could a seemingly nationalist spew such crap? Did he make any attempt to create a Republic of Fulani?
You are daft for asking me that stupid question. If I may ask you, what was the system of Government we were practising during the time that interview with Ahmadu bello was made? We were practising parliamentary system based on regional government that is each region has it own constitution, I can post the Westerner Nigeria constitution for you to see if you doubt it. Awolowo was a Nationalist, Ahmadu bello was a Nationalist it was only Azikwe who was more of a Unionist. Nigeria is not a Nation but a country, Yoruba is a Nation, Edo is a Nation, Igbo is a Nation etc. So as at then, what Ahmadu bello said is not bad as is first primary assignment os his people first. I just saw a video online where SNP in Scotland and the First Minister of Scotland Nicola sturgeon is firmly talking about her people first in the UK, and she is threatening Westminster Boris and his Toris party of Scotland independence because of bad Brexit deal for them. But you Africa are hypocrites and full of evil, what is bad if someone wants the interest of his or her own people first? In his full interview, he said his people should get the jobs first, if not they will prefer expatriates and not Igbos who they have studied and see they love to dominate their host.
And by the way, who told you the Fulanis was initially comfortable being part of Nigeria? It was immediately they took control after the counter coup and they saw the system the greedines of the Igbos has introduced by destroying Regional government and gave more power to the Federal government to control almost everything, that is exactly what the Fulanis are holding onto.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by Dedetwo(m): 3:14am On Dec 31, 2020
jneutron4000:
You are daft for asking me that stupid question. If I may ask you, what was the system of Government we were practising during the time that interview with Ahmadu bello was made? We were practising parliamentary system based on regional government that is each region has it own constitution, I can post the Westerner Nigeria constitution for you to see if you doubt it. Awolowo was a Nationalist, Ahmadu bello was a Nationalist it was only Azikwe who was more of a Unionist. Nigeria is not a Nation but a country, Yoruba is a Nation, Edo is a Nation, Igbo is a Nation etc. So as at then, what Ahmadu bello said is not bad as is first primary assignment os his people first. I just saw a video online where SNP in Scotland and the First Minister of Scotland Nicola sturgeon is firmly talking about her people first in the UK, and she is threatening Westminster Boris and his Toris party of Scotland independence because of bad Brexit deal for them. But you Africa are hypocrites and full of evil, what is bad if someone wants the interest of his or her own people first? In his full interview, he said his people should get the jobs first, if not they will prefer expatriates and not Igbos who they have studied and see they love to dominate their host.
And by the way, who told you the Fulanis was initially comfortable being part of Nigeria? It was immediately they took control after the counter coup and they saw the system the greedines of the Igbos has introduced by destroying Regional government and gave more power to the Federal government to control almost everything, that is exactly what the Fulanis are holding onto.

You must be a ninny for spewing the bolded crap. I have wasted my time crossing words with a dumbass dingbat. Only fool would insinuate that people who wore tribal sectionalism were nationalists. Do you even know the connotation of Unionist? If you are not a dunce of considerable magnitude, you would have realized Fulani should not have joined the war to keep the union called Nigeria. Any jackass who fought the war against Ndigbo and Biafrans wanted the shithole called One-Nigeria.

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Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by 7lives: 5:52am On Dec 31, 2020
jimyjames:


we never tried to Lord ourselves over anybody in 1966 explain how we did.

what stupid claim? we own a lot of properties all over Nigeria not just in South West and there is no doubt about that, extreme poverty and under development is visible all over Nigeria making Nigeria the capital of poverty in the world

we have never forced Biafra on anyone there are people in South East against/in favour of Biafra just as there are people in South South against/in favour of Biafra, all we have asked is a referendum for everyone to decide

If you don't know where you are coming from, you won't know where you are going.
Your people tried to dominate and exploit other tribes in their various regions.
Did Zik not tried to become the premier of SW?.
Go and listen to Late Samuel Ladoke Akintola, the former premier of SW, on the nepotism of Igbos at the University of Ibadan.
Where as educated as Yorubas are at that period, Yorubas are only good enough to be employed as messengers, cleaners and gardners.
Was it not the same thing happening in the north?
Why do you think Akintola, Ahmadu Bello, Balewa and Okotiebo needs to die?.
Anyone standing on Igbo domination agenda must go, period.
Must Igbos force themselves on others?, and have Igbos stopped?, just look at the so called Biafran map, people that are not even related to Igbos have been carved into the map without seeking their consent and you said your people don't seek to dominate others?.
Until your people stopped looking at others as idiots whom Igbos needs to manage or baby sit,
sorry will continue to be una case in this country.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by mrkunlex(m): 5:58am On Dec 31, 2020
Bkayyy:


Na by force oh.

Go and read history. More than 300,000 thousands Romans perished in their quest to civilize barbarians like Britain and Germania.

So a few numbers dying before won't stop us from doing God's work.

Everybody in this life is created for a reason and if ours is to civilize you people then so be it
you havan't civilized your nyamiris brothers, you want to civilize others. Your level of dindinrin is high
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by 7lives: 6:12am On Dec 31, 2020
marsman:

Zik became the prime minister through the help of the North, he Joined hands with the North because he thought that North were Gullible and he could play them, not knowing they were the master Politicians, who.later sidelined him after. Awolowo was the Leader of the of the western region, and he wanted the best for his western people.As at 1900, the whole of the present Benue State, Kogi East Senatorial District and some southern parts of Taraba State called Munchi District back then; were all in the Southern Protectorate. Whoever doubts this should consult MacMillan Atlas for secondary schools in Nigeria. With that situation the South had a higher population than the North hence always had an upper hand in any democratic bargain.
But as at the early fifties when the regions were being created, common sense dictated clearly that these areas should fall in the future Eastern Region. But against common sense, the colonial masters decided to gerrymander them into the Northern Region. While they did that, Azikiwe who was supposed to be in Enugu fighting against it as the leader of the East, was far away in Ibadan struggling with Awolowo to rule the Western Region and also playing the spoiler role against Awolowo's attempts to have Kwara and present Kogi Yorubas carved into the Western Region from the North which was already too large by landmass.
Anascopeterson: While he abandoned his burning house and was far away in Ibadan struggling against Awolowo for his own (Awolowo's) region, Igbos saw absolutely nothing wrong with that. Rather they applauded him as a nationalist. A nationalist whose house was burning yet busy chasing rats in a far away land. . Yorubas love zik? you guys are also known for telling false tales, even presently, A large population of the Igbos don't like zik, that is why one of his statues was destroyed in the was during the end sars protest. Awolowo was far better than zik in all aspect, because he did what a true son of the soil would do, wish the best for his people, and not become power hungry with the urge to rule every body like pathetic zik.
While Awo and balewa tried making Provision in our constitution for future secession, it was this same zik that was demonizing them and calling them enemy of the state, while you Igbos were cheering him on, Now tides has changed, you can't keep the rest of us under your feet like to dreamt to again, you now want leave. Selfish people

Omo wa gba iyi.
This people are obsessed with dominating others, as if na curse.
And they won't see anything wrong in that, instead they will say they are hated.
All they needed in 1967 was to bomb the Niger bridge but no, they want to liberate the Yorubas, but Yorubas know that it was an annexation, subjugation and domination agenda all over again.
Search and read the useless public address made by Zik in Lagos, that wake Awolowo and the rest of Yoruba elders up and made them formed AG, Action group, which won SW at the expense of Zik's party NCNC, which also belongs to Herbert Macaulay a Yoruba man.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by 7lives: 6:29am On Dec 31, 2020
jimyjames:


My friend you were not there when these officers were plotting that coup, so you can't tell me what their agenda was, and i believe they the plotters themselves said and they said it was never an igbo dominant agenda and that's final.

Awolowo who formed his action group party mainly on what he claimed to put Yoruba first should have been voted overwhelmingly by his Yoruba brothers right? They voted zik cause the loved him, right from the moment zik returned to Africa, he was outspoken and fought the colonial masters through his own personal newspaper that dominanted west and central Africa at that time, he had a lot of prestige among west and center African people



Internet propaganda is all it is, Biafra is well supported in the South South and only referendum can settle it, not some faceless social media fakers

If Yorubas voted for Zik, how did Awo emerged as the first premier of SW?.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by 7lives: 6:31am On Dec 31, 2020
jimyjames:

my friend stop talking nonsense, the coalition between ziks NCNC and NPC never happened

So how did Zk emerged as the first president?.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by reality1010: 6:50am On Dec 31, 2020
marsman:

Zik became the prime minister through the help of the North, he Joined hands with the North because he thought that North were Gullible and he could play them, not knowing they were the master Politicians, who.later sidelined him after. Awolowo was the Leader of the of the western region, and he wanted the best for his western people.As at 1900, the whole of the present Benue State, Kogi East Senatorial District and some southern parts of Taraba State called Munchi District back then; were all in the Southern Protectorate. Whoever doubts this should consult MacMillan Atlas for secondary schools in Nigeria. With that situation the South had a higher population than the North hence always had an upper hand in any democratic bargain.
But as at the early fifties when the regions were being created, common sense dictated clearly that these areas should fall in the future Eastern Region. But against common sense, the colonial masters decided to gerrymander them into the Northern Region. While they did that, Azikiwe who was supposed to be in Enugu fighting against it as the leader of the East, was far away in Ibadan struggling with Awolowo to rule the Western Region and also playing the spoiler role against Awolowo's attempts to have Kwara and present Kogi Yorubas carved into the Western Region from the North which was already too large by landmass.
Anascopeterson: While he abandoned his burning house and was far away in Ibadan struggling against Awolowo for his own (Awolowo's) region, Igbos saw absolutely nothing wrong with that. Rather they applauded him as a nationalist. A nationalist whose house was burning yet busy chasing rats in a far away land. . Yorubas love zik? you guys are also known for telling false tales, even presently, A large population of the Igbos don't like zik, that is why one of his statues was destroyed in the was during the end sars protest. Awolowo was far better than zik in all aspect, because he did what a true son of the soil would do, wish the best for his people, and not become power hungry with the urge to rule every body like pathetic zik.
While Awo and balewa tried making Provision in our constitution for future secession, it was this same zik that was demonizing them and calling them enemy of the state, while you Igbos were cheering him on, Now tides has changed, you can't keep the rest of us under your feet like to dreamt to again, you now want leave. Selfish people
Your claims on this platform are riddle with lies. I still cant tell why some of you lie decieving yourself. Zik was a nationalist and so he was and wanted to be. wHe was also an Africanist especially when you look at his influence on Kwame Nkruma which you did not mention. This influence was responsible in the Ghanain fight for independence. Now coming to Zik's influence in the South West, that region was part of nigeria and lagos was the capital and center of activities for the white man and everyone,so you cant blame Zik for his role in that region rather you blame Awo who brought in tribalism to fight a national course. On the issue of seccession, take time to listen to Zik's interview when he was alive. He told the white journalist that interviewed that he didnt support secession after Awo and Sarduana gave in to it becasue he knew what the white man wanted. He was the target and they knew he would accept it but he surprised them by saying no. Also come to think of it, is it the acceptance that is the grux or the direct action? Yorubas specifically will say seccession but when you bring them out for it their position will change. We have seen how Yorubas will say true federalism , fiscal federalism etc but at the conference they will change. Is it not Senator Adefuye and other yorubas that refused to grant South south resource control after all their noise on how Awo used resources in the region to develop the place. So keep to yourself that issue. Presently, Yorubas are begining to ask for succession after all the abuse and name calling on the Igbos for calling for seccession. Igbo land is developed more than other regions. Go round the country and see yourself. Apart from Lagos and Abuja whereelse. Even with no federal presence the people are living fine. How proficient and efficient is the socalled federal presence in your place?You still dont have water and electricity but individuals have been able to provide these things for themselves besides the humanitarian ones from people.
Lots of you guys should concentrate on how to develop your place and make it nice, for the Igbos, they v gone beyond the Nigerian mentality. Remember w have more Igbos who understand Yorubas, hausa and speak the langauge than you do about the Igbos, and that put them in a better position to assess others, however they dont do that because they are capitalist in nature.

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Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by reality1010: 6:58am On Dec 31, 2020
Dedetwo:


The above post is a load of rubbish. The some names are incorrect and logic very lunatic. Since after January 15, 1966, there have been more than one coup in Nigeria precipitated by elements of Nigerian army. How many of these successive coups have been colored with a particular ethnicity in Nigeria? If the answer to the above question is none, anybody who harbors the idea January 15, 1966 coup was an Igbo coup is basement fool.
Gradually the truth is coming out. People can see it even happening now, how some people will speak ,incite others pretending to be true in character and consciousness but when reality comes they chicken out and volte face.
Imagine , the Obasanjo telling us how the Yorubas wanted him to secceed out of Nigeria during the civil war but he refused , and a repeat during Abacha time. Very funny, and tomorow they will be attacking the Igbos, what a childish behavior.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by reality1010: 7:00am On Dec 31, 2020
7lives:


Omo wa gba iyi.
This people are obsessed with dominating others, as if na curse.
And they won't see anything wrong in that, instead they will say they are hated.
All they needed in 1967 was to bomb the Niger bridge but no, they want to liberate the Yorubas, but Yorubas know that it was an annexation, subjugation and domination agenda all over again.
Search and read the useless public address made by Zik in Lagos, that wake Awolowo and the rest of Yoruba elders up and made them formed AG, Action group, which won SW at the expense of Zik's party NCNC, which also belongs to Herbert Macaulay a Yoruba man.
Funny enough, that your people wanted Obasanjo to help you leave Nigeria during the civil war and Abacha time. And everytime you keep saying Igbos wanted to annex yoruba land. what a shame and self denial.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by reality1010: 7:06am On Dec 31, 2020
7lives:


If you don't know where you are coming from, you won't know where you are going.
Your people tried to dominate and exploit other tribes in their various regions.
Did Zik not tried to become the premier of SW?.
Go and listen to Late Samuel Ladoke Akintola, the former premier of SW, on the nepotism of Igbos at the University of Ibadan.
Where as educated as Yorubas are at that period, Yorubas are only good enough to be employed as messengers, cleaners and gardners.
Was it not the same thing happening in the north?
Why do you think Akintola, Ahmadu Bello, Balewa and Okotiebo needs to die?.
Anyone standing on Igbo domination agenda must go, period.
Must Igbos force themselves on others?, and have Igbos stopped?, just look at the so called Biafran map, people that are not even related to Igbos have been carved into the map without seeking their consent and you said your people don't seek to dominate others?.
Until your people stopped looking at others as idiots whom Igbos needs to manage or baby sit,
sorry will continue to be una case in this country.
Igbos are Igbos, no matter what you say or do in your capacity you cant stop them instead they will keep soaring higher in every field of endeavor in nigeria and outside the shores of nigeria. Though Igbos particpated in the oup but the fact remains tha it was a Yorubas coup. We still see yorubas trying to replicate same agenda with Amotekun and Endsars protest but it is not working. Suddenly one of your professors have started yoruba seccession from nigeria. When you look at his ways of operation you will see that it is an agenda that has been there with them. Igbo are part of nigeria and will remain because they are everywhere.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by Dedetwo(m): 7:18am On Dec 31, 2020
7lives:


If you don't know where you are coming from, you won't know where you are going.
Your people tried to dominate and exploit other tribes in their various regions.
Did Zik not tried to become the premier of SW?.
Go and listen to Late Samuel Ladoke Akintola, the former premier of SW, on the nepotism of Igbos at the University of Ibadan.
Where as educated as Yorubas are at that period, Yorubas are only good enough to be employed as messengers, cleaners and gardners.
Was it not the same thing happening in the north?
Why do you think Akintola, Ahmadu Bello, Balewa and Okotiebo needs to die?.
Anyone standing on Igbo domination agenda must go, period.
Must Igbos force themselves on others?, and have Igbos stopped?, just look at the so called Biafran map, people that are not even related to Igbos have been carved into the map without seeking their consent and you said your people don't seek to dominate others?.
Until your people stopped looking at others as idiots whom Igbos needs to manage or baby sit,
sorry will continue to be una case in this country.

On the bolded, Zik never even dreamt of becoming the premier of western region of Nigeria. Azikiwe contested election into regional house of assembly from Lagos. The person who would have become the head of business in what later became western region was Adegoke Adelabu. According to AMA Akinloye, "Anybody from western region of Nigeria who did not run under the umbrella of Action Group and later became a member of AG, defected" including his very self. Zik left western region not because of carpet crossing but issue with Olorunimbe as representative at the national level. The British ran the University College, Ibadan and appointed whom they considered the best hand as the VC.

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Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by Dedetwo(m): 7:19am On Dec 31, 2020
7lives:


So how did Zk emerged as the first president?.

It is called election, dude.
Re: National Resentment Of The Igbo, In Achebe's Words by oyatz(m): 7:23am On Dec 31, 2020
LukasPodolski:

Sir look at this picture he posted , in just 10seconds.

You can zoom it....

Sadly this is what they call "development" in igboland.

Don't mind these overgrown babies in adult bodies.

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