nocomment2:
"pirates ouyos" stands for "ijaw pirates", not oyo pirates.

Christistruth00:


The matter has been settled

Ijebu call it Eko

Benin called it Kuramo after the first Portuguese name

The Ijebu have sized all the land except a piece at the tip of the Island (Isale Eko) where Benin still has influence

Christistruth00:


Someone said that but the Onikoyi Royal family of Ikoyi is of Ethnic Oyo Origin and he rules the East of Lagos Island

Oyo= Ouyo

festacman:
No doubt about that. No Oba of Lagos ascends throne without the blessing of Oba of Benin.

nocomment2:


The actual translation:


"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

The jebou seazed only a very narrow piece of land linking lagos to its metropolis (the rest of Benin empire)

Christistruth00:



Benin held only the tip of the Island because Ijebu seized the rest ( Even till today)

Westtimeline:
according to our pained bloda flom acloss the Niger, Benin own ragos by jumping ondo and Ogun.

forgiveness:



Oranmiyam was the first Oba of Benin.

jneutron4000:
Yeah you are right.

nocomment2:
Ok, I have had my fun with this scam artist named christistruth00. I am the person who actually found the historical document in question and posted it to nairalanda.
Here is the actual translation:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

The document comes from a book: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k62093119/f11.image.r=Yebou

@ Areafada, Gregyboy, Samuk, Davidnazee.

Very obviously the metropolis being talked about is Benin !
Macof why are you such a liar ?
For your info, "langue de terre" means : "very narrow piece of land". You don't speak French and your Google translation won't translate that, because it is an expression.
While discussing history with you guys yoruba, it always comes down to this: you must lie ! But why ? It is history, it has already happened, why try to create your alternate reality ?

For readers who only want the truth, the text is here for you, don't be lazy, translate it.

Also, when you see expressions like "langue de terre" you have to first look at its meaning in a French dictionary ( just type the expression on Google, it should give you the meaning in french), then you translate the meaning (which would be words in french) into English.
Don't believe me, just do the work and don't be lazy.


Also, as can be seen in the third caption, "ouyo" doesn't mean "oyo". Ouyo refers to a bunch of pirates whom were also called Jos. The ouyo pirates are most likely ijo people ! Gbam !

nocomment2:


What is "language of land" and "tongue of land" ? You failed to notice that your googletranslation translated the same expression in 2 diffrent manners, and both translations are litteral translations with no meaning in english.

For your info "langue de terre" means "narrow piece of land", not "language of land" nor "tongue of land".

nocomment2:
No he is wrong, oranmiyan is a fictional character like hercules. You guys need to grow up and stop talking like children.

forgiveness:


Benin didn't own, they controlled some parts of Lagos Island by conquest and it didn't tantamount to ownership of Lagos.

forgiveness:


Benin didn't own, they controlled some parts of Lagos Island by conquest and it didn't tantamount to ownership of Lagos.

forgiveness:



Oranmiyam was the first Oba of Benin.

Christistruth00:


Isale Eko is the Area between Idumota Market to Obalende. Oba of Lagos influence doesn't reach beyond there and the Land the Markets are on belongs to the Aromire Awori Yoruba family

forgiveness:


Benin didn't own, they controlled some parts of Lagos Island by conquest and it didn't tantamount to ownership of Lagos.

The bolded simply means you are speculating.

jneutron4000:
Oranmiyan did not stay too long, Eweka his son started the Oba dynasty.

jneutron4000:
Oranmiyan did not really style himself as Oba because he was a warrior, Nevertheless he stayed in Benin for a very short period, Eweka dynasty formally stated the Obaship and of course his father was Oranmiyan

nocomment2:


oranmiyan is like fatherchristmass, he was made up in a story.
ife is a village and the story around ife was made up, the oni is just a priest of a village, the only link between ife and Benin empire would exist is ife was a village under Benin empire.

nocomment2:

So after all the lies you just said and on which I just exposed you, you carry on and keep talking while expecting people to believe you are telling the truth ?

nocomment2:


oranmiyan did absolutely nothing because he is fictional character. Like james bond !

forgiveness:

The bolded simply means you are speculating.

jneutron4000:
Oranmiyan was a warrior and an adventurer, he also went to Nupe land.

jneutron4000:
spiderman was a warrior and an adventurer, he also went to Nupe land.

jneutron4000:
superman was a warrior and an adventurer, he also went to Nupe land.

jneutron4000:
holyghostman was a warrior and an adventurer, he also went to Nupe land.

nocomment2:
No he is wrong, oranmiyan is a fictional character like hercules. You guys need to grow up and stop talking like children.

forgiveness:


What was Igbodomigodo as at the time Oranmiyam came? City? Empire? Village?

You mean Oranmiyam never existed?

jneutron4000:
Oranmiyan did not really style himself as Oba because he was a warrior, Nevertheless he stayed in Benin for a very short period, Eweka dynasty formally stated the Obaship and of course his father was Oranmiyan

forgiveness:


Who was Eweka's father? Who changed the name of Igodomigodo to Benin (ilu-ibinu)?

forgiveness:


Oranmiyam started the Obaship in Benin.

nocomment2:

Well you weren't there to see it ! unless you have some magical powers I do not know about.
However eyewitnesse wrote down that Lagos belongs to Benin.

So your self serving opinion is opposed to eye-sitness accounts.

IamWonderful:
You think everyone can be igbos that exalted one fugitive and IndecentStar

Christistruth00:


Your present Oba has listed Oranmiyan as the first Oba of Benin