Primase:

And I hope what you call sin is not moderate beer/wine consumption? for your information, we now have beer with 0% alcohol but your pastor may subsequently say that the bitterness is a sin.
Below is alcohol-free Heineken beer.

God created alcohol....it is a natural/organic byproduct of the process of fermentation which itself is a natural process ...... so why would I need man-engineered 0% alcoholic drinks when it is not like I am on an alcohol-diet of some sort

Eohara:
This fake pastor looter again, alcohol that God forbid this one come dey quote bible verses here. Wonder shall never end

Where in the Bible do you find God forbidding Alcohol?
Some of you think God your play thing that you willingly fling lies His way since He does not strike you down immediately with lightening sort of like Zeus would in Greek tales.

Igwe29:
Is it not drinking alcohol that leads to getting drunk? If you want to avoid getting drunk you stop intake of alcohol.

PHijo:
It is better avoiding it. Most times people never drink with the intention of getting drunk!

mu2sa2:
From drinking you get drunk. Drunkenness is the child of drinking. Doesn't make sense leaving the father and punishing his children when both are in the same boat

But what is wrong with being drunk?
If I drink and get drunk in my house and pass out as a result, wake up the next morning and chew some peanuts to beat the hangover, I have committed no sin, not even against God.
So why do many of you assume your personal bias against alcohol as if a mandate by God Himself against alcohol?

Hongkog:
The only thing wrong about alcohol is when you take it in excess. It makes you do things that you wouldn't do ordinarily.

Imagine beating your wife and children because you are drunk, or raping some random lady you see.

bamayo:
hmm. Drinking Alcohol is a controversial issue, Christian needs to be careful about it
1. the damage excessive intake of alcohol will cause is not the same with excessive eating, we should remember, Noah and lot, they caused problem to their generations because of alcohol
2. we have many baby Christians who are growing up in faith whose level of self control might not be able to control the appropriate volume of alcohol to be taken. mature Christian even though they may be able to resist excess alcohol must consider the weak ones in faith by staying away from Alcohol.
3. is it a must to take alcohol? is it irreplaceable? if its not mandatory, so why the argument? note anyone that we follow me, MUST DENY HIMSELF, carry his cross daily and follow me
Believers must also deny themselves of something even privileges like alcohol

MikeBetty:
some people quote the out of context. Does it mean that everybody will enter heaven with one or more parts of the body off? He has answered that your quote even before you type yours. He said drunkeness is a sin, which means sipping small without getting drunk is not a sin. It is either you sip small (not getting drunk) or quit taking at all. Same way some people will say "money is the root of all evil". Who no need money on earth? What the bible said is THE LOVE OF MONEY

Drunkenness is not listed as a sin in either of the Old Covenant or the New Covenant. So you need never add(or remove) from God's own Laws as that itself is listed as a sin.

A rapist is a rapist whether drunk or sober.. Blaming alcohol for his choice to commit a rape is akin to blaming a knife for a murder because it was used in the stabbing the murder victim.

A man who beats on his spouse when he is drunk is a man who beats the same wife even when he is not drunk. Alcohol does not do anything to people that already do or have loaded up in their minds with intentions to. So why blame alcohol....

Jesus Christ Himself declared that it is not what you eat(drink) that makes you unclean. He said instead that it is what you store up in your heart -those grudges, evil thoughts, lies, lust, etc. - that makes you unclean. Stop blaming the wrong things and take responsibility for the filth that lives in your heart.

HedwigesMaduro:
You know... Nigerian "Christianity"... If I don't like it and don't do it, then it's a sin... No matter what the Bible says. I consider any Christian that says drinking alcohol is a sin as either ignorant or is a hypocrite Pharisee.

Right on!
In fact ignorance is no longer a valid reason since we are all now living well into the age of information.

livingchrist:
Drinking Alcohol is not a sin but drunkenness itself but how do you measure how many glass of alcohol cause drunkenness? The best is avoid drinking.

Where did Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law Himself, tell you that drunkeness is a sin?

Nuttella:
I still will not drink alcohol.

When the bible says "lead us not into temptation" (Matthew 6:13) it knew that from drinking alcohol, we gradually become drunk and drunkenness is a sin according to my bible(Ephesians 5:18, Galatians 5:21).

God is not an author of confusion. People are just interpreting bible they want it suits them.

God have mercy on your soul for you going as far as to pluck a verse out of the one prayer Jesus Christ Himself taught us in order to support an inane claim such as the one you present here.
What has alcohol to do with temptation?
Is a knife temptation to a murderer?
Is a woman existence to be summed up as temptation to a rapist?
Many of you are so close-minded you don't even realize you are still so far away from that which you pretend you believe in.

Kobojunkie:
God created alcohol....it is a natural/organic byproduct of the process of fermentation which itself is a natural process ...... so why would I need man-engineered 0% alcoholic drinks when it is not like I am on an alcohol-diet of some sort

It is all about preference. Some people like the taste of beer but are easily intoxicated because of the alcohol.

Primase:

It is all about preference. Some people like the taste of beer but are easily intoxicated because of the alcohol.

I like the taste of cake too but you won't see me stuffing my face with zero-calorie option cause the real stuff makes e fat.
What next? Zero-calorie beef?

Kobojunkie:
God have mercy on your soul for you going as far as to pluck a verse out of the one prayer Jesus Christ Himself taught us in order to support an inane claim such as the one you present here.
What has alcohol to do with temptation?
Is a knife temptation to a murderer?
Is a woman existence to be summed up as temptation to a rapist?
Many of you are so close-minded you don't even realize you are still so far away from that which you pretend you believe in.

And who made you Jesus assistant? Going around telling people what Jesus thinks and what he thinks not . Respect yourself this morning. I'm beginning to doubt if you actually know the Jesus you so much talk about.

Nuttella:
And who made you Jesus assistant? Going around telling people what Jesus thinks and what he thinks not . Respect yourself this morning. I'm beginning to doubt if you actually know the Jesus you so much talk about.

And are you bullying someone in this thread again?

I thought we had an agreement you would restrict your fraudulent commercial spiritual business to your offline scams

Naughty girl like you

Nuttella:
And who made you Jesus assistant? Going around telling people what Jesus thinks and what he thinks not . Respect yourself this morning. I'm beginning to doubt if you actually know the Jesus you so much talk about.

I don't tell people what Jesus Christ thinks...even Jesus Christ Himself did not tell anyone what He thinks. Instead, He told us the Truth as revealed to Him by His Father... The same Truth that is written there in the Gospels is the same one I tell people.
I didn't ask that you believe in me... It matters nothing what I believe, instead what should matter more to you is what Jesus Christ said, after all He is the New Covenan/agreement which you profess to believe in, or is He not?

GofuckYourself:


And are you bullying someone in this thread again?

I thought we had an agreement you would restrict your fraudulent commercial spiritual business to your offline scams

Naughty girl like you

Shebi I have left you alone? Yet you still pursued me to another thread, if I reason your matter now you start crying to the mods, you will not respect your old age and face your diviner work.

Kobojunkie:
I don't tell people what Jesus Christ thinks...even Jesus Christ Himself did not tell anyone what He thinks. Instead, He told us the Truth as revealed to Him by His Father... The same Truth that is written there in the Gospels is the same one I tell people.
I didn't ask that you believe in me... It matters nothing what I believe, instead what should matter more to you is what Jesus Christ said, after all He is the New Covenan/agreement which you profess to believe in, or is He not?

All these Jehovah witness people sef. Arguing with you gives me headache. Reading bible from a carnal mind.

Nuttella:
All these Jehovah witness people sef. Arguing with you gives me headache. Reading bible from a carnal mind.

This from the very one who lifted a line out of the Lord's prayer to provide support for a claim of similar meaning to asserting that a knife constitutes temptation for a murderous heart?
Isn't that what Jesus Christ warned us that the carnal-minded folks do...lift lines/verses out-of-context in order to support their lies and deceit?

Kobojunkie:
This from the very one who lifted a line out of the Lord's prayer to provide support for a claim of similar meaning to asserting that a knife constitutes temptation for a murderous heart?

I will advice you to not read the bible like you are reading a novel, you dont read bible, you study the bible but before you do that, tell the holy spirit to help you understand what you are about to study so you dont come on Nairaland spewing carnal things.

Nuttella:
I will advice you to not read the bible like you are reading a novel, you dont read bible, you study the bible but before you do that, tell the holy spirit to help you understand what you are about to study so you dont come on Nairaland spewing carnal things.

So you studied the Bible, and asked the holy spirit to help you, and yet you still ended up doing exactly what Jesus Christ commanded His followers never to do i.e. lift His Truth outside of context in order to support lies you attempted to spin from it... one of the only Carnal acts that Jesus Christ declared would make void the power in God in our lives?
Did you know that what you did there in fact renders worthless your very worship of God, and this according to Jesus Christ Himself?
Let me guess, was it the holy spirit that led you to doing that too?

Kobojunkie:
So you studied the Bible, and asked the holy spirit to help you, and yet you still ended up doing exactly what Jesus Christ commanded His followers never to do i.e. lift His Truth outside of context in order to support lies you attempted to spin from it... one of the only Carnal acts that Jesus Christ declared would make void the power in God in our lives?
Did you know that what you did there in fact renders worthless your very worship of God, and this according to Jesus Christ Himself?
Let me guess, was it the holy spirit that led you to doing that too?

Stay away from my mention. You are disturbing me.

Nuttella:
Shebi I have left you alone? Yet you still pursued me to another thread, if I reason your matter now you start crying to the mods, you will not respect your old age and face your diviner work.

I was just point out that you where bullying that member which is against the rules here

Also you are a fraud

GofuckYourself:




I was just point out that you where bullying that member which is against the rules here

Also you are a fraud

I am a fraud cause you can't smell my aura, your fellow diviner have tried their luck to attack my spiritman but it didn't work, you can't smell my aura unless you come close to me. Yen yen yen yen yen. I will advice you to face your spiritism and leave me alone.

Nuttella:
I am a fraud cause you can't smell my aura, your fellow diviner have tried their luck to attack my spiritman but it didn't work, you can't smell my aura unless you come close to me. Yen yen yen yen yen. I will advice you to face your spiritism and leave me alone.

Again you are telling lies it's obvious as your aura betrays you again

What do you gain from telling these lies ? Does it make you feel special?

It's hilarious the extent to which you would go to mislead your followers

No one attacked you, you created in your head and spun tales around this narrative to make yourself seem larger than life



Naughty girl

GofuckYourself:


Again you are telling lies it's obvious as your aura betrays you again

What do you gain from telling these lies ? Does it make you feel special?

It's hilarious the extent to which you would go to mislead your followers

No one attacked you, you created in your head and spun tales around this narrative to make yourself seem larger than life



Naughty girl

aura smeller, you can't smell people's aura online, you are so used to lying that you lie about even the smallest obvious things.

Nuttella:
aura smeller, you can't smell people's aura online, you are so used to lying that you lie about even the smallest obvious things.

Hahahahaha

Smell ? Hahahahahaha

Getting defensive are we? The spiritual is vast and here is there and there is here at the same time for one who claims to be a prophetess I am shocked you don't know this or you even claim to smell aura? My goodness or you thought the word aura and aroma are the same ? Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

You were obviously pronouncing aura as aroma

Wow madam prophetess

Fraud

But let me help you

Come to me let us talk about your neurotic need to tell lies and fables

I can help heal you

GofuckYourself:


Hahahahaha

Smell ? Hahahahahaha

Getting defensive are we? The spiritual is vast and here is there and there is here at the same time for one who claims to be a prophetess I am shocked you don't know this or you even claim to smell aura? My goodness or you thought the word aura and aroma are the same ? Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

You were obviously pronouncing aura as aroma

Wow madam prophetess

Fraud

But let me help you

Come to me let us talk about your neurotic need to tell lies and fables

I can help heal you

Leave me alone.

Nuttella:
Leave me alone.

Alright naughty girl

Be good from now on that's all I ask

All the best

Cheers

GofuckYourself:


Alright naughty girl

Be good from now on that's all I ask

All the best

Cheers

I am a good person and the color of my aura is very bright, your heart is dark and your deeds are dark.

Sanchez01:

This does not in any way address Reno's statement. Indeed, alcohol isn't a sin as the Scripture never condemned it. You could have made your argument more reasonable but this...this is way off. Alcohol isn't evil. Excessive alcohol is, as with most things. And no, I don't drink.

Neither is Drunkenness a sin...Not according to Jesus Christ, the Law and the Law Giver Himself!

I don't know where you all get your claim that God declared drunkenness a sin because it is certainly not biblical or stipulated in any of God's Laws (I.e. neither in the Old or New Covenants).

Lol. Nutella and Gofuckyourself Ahahahahahh. I can imagine you guys being a couple Una house go hot die. .

Angelfrost:
Preaching against alcohol is akin to preaching against sex... Both are erroneous, if not dumb and hypocritical.

The key is to preach against abuse and absence of self control.

One of my issues with religion is the poor practice of making a taboo out of pleasures of life, instead of directing or teaching on proper approach to those pleasures.

Rather than preaching against abuse of such things, why not let the professionals, who are in fact trained in the counseling of those with addic handle that while the rest of you get back to in fact doing what Jesus Christ has called on you to do in His name?
He never instructed any of His followers to act as counselors to anyone, not even those with behavioural problems.

ibinaboonline:
No, drinking alcohol is not a sin. They say it's drinking in excess that's a sin, but the problem is that the second bottle always starts from the first bottle. I won't fault anyone who practices or preaches abstinence for this reason.

Stop letting then lie to you. God never said drunkeness is a sin - men like you made that up to deceive and control you.
Wake up and learn to read that book for your own self so you can decipherr their lies by your own self. God did not give you a brain for a pin cushion. He designed yours exactly the way He designed the brains of those you have allowed to deceive you with their lies.

Kobojunkie:
Rather than preaching against abuse of such things, why not let the professionals, who are in fact trained in the counseling of those with addic handle that while the rest of you get back to in fact doing what Jesus Christ has called on you to do in His name?
He never instructed any of His followers to act as counselors to anyone, not even those with behavioural problems.

You are not wrong... But, you are not being realistic.

We are talking Naija sir, not America or some other nations with actual rehab centers littered everywhere.

Angelfrost:


You are not wrong... But, you are not being realistic.

We are talking Naija sir, not America or some other nations with actual rehab centers littered everywhere.

Pls stop replying that young man, he argues off point, I don't understand his problem.

Kobojunkie:
Stop letting then lie to you. God never said drunkeness is a sin - men like you made that up to deceive and control you.
Wake up and learn to read that book for your own self so you can decipherr their lies by your own self. God did not give you a brain for a pin cushion. He designed yours exactly the way He designed the brains of those you have allowed to deceive you with their lies.

You are not a true Christain .