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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Yusman316(m): 2:32pm On Feb 09, 2021
One thing I have noticed of recent is that most arguments are now mostly based on people's sentiments and not really facts available. What has Michael Jordan achieved that LeBrom James hasn't? What has Lionel Messi achieved that Cristiano Ronaldo hasn't?

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Beverlyjean(f): 2:34pm On Feb 09, 2021
RealEzee:
Diego simeone :



SPANISH FOOTBALL

Diego Simeone clarifies comments on preferring Cristiano Ronaldo to Messi

Football Leaked audio during 2018 World Cup

Leo Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Simeone: Griezmann is Atletico's captain, exit talk does not worry me

MARCA Claro10/05/2019 21:37 CESTEn Español

Diego Simeone was keen to clarify his statements made during a leaked conversation he had about Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi.

During the World Cup in Russia last summer, Simeone seemed to imply that he preferred the Portuguese forward to his compatriot in a audio on WhatsApp that found its way to the press.

"What I consider is that in a team with fewer solutions, Ronaldo is a better fit because he provides many solutions," Simeone began.

"For a team which focuses on football, Messi is much better.

"We are talking about very fine margins of how a team plays," he stated.

"Cristiano can decide a game in a different way, he doesn't need ten attacks. He scored two headers against us and we were out," theAtletico boss said.

Simeone went on to speak of the subtle differences between the two world superstars.

"Both need a team but the differences are very small.

"Lionel, in an attacking team always plays better. The other [Ronaldo] can win a game in two actions, he simplifies the situations.

"Messi is mesmerising because he plays elaborate football.

"Leo plays in a team that compliments all of his talent. He always ends up finding solutions," he concluded.

I no dey talk much grin
CR7 is the Real magic

U know what gets me tired of messi fans, they are delusional, biased and not straight forward... they will tell u 6 balon dor is the reason y Messi is better cos Ronaldo has 5...but once u mention modric also has one balon dor, does it now mean he is better than iniesta or xavi that won nothing,..ask them this and they will runaway...
Now simeone an argentine and a seasoned world class coach that has played against both players as a coach for a world class team in the same league with them has clearly stated the reason y Ronaldo is better but these Messi fans no go gree... the only player than has scored simeones Atletico( athe team with the most consistent defence in the last 10 yrs )hat trick with 2 different teams that have 2 different styles of football ( one attacking and the other defensive)

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Abdulmumin412(m): 2:36pm On Feb 09, 2021
Beverlyjean:


There's nothing like hate or bias ....all those thing u mentioned, Ronaldo had done all those stuff ( goals, assists, free kicks and dribbles) and the crazy thing is that he gets results with it ...messi only using his to claim la liga titles... Ronaldo is a goal getter, he is a force ... why should I take a messi ( even tho is is a fantastic player) that can't win me anything asides la liga , to a Ronaldo that has win multiple CL with 2 different teams , scores more important decisive goals than messi for both club and country and it has lead him to winning major trophies for both club and country... for the past 5seasons , Ronaldo has flawed messi when it comes to goals , decisive goals , assists in the CL and national team... in the past 5 years ronaldo has won la liga , Champions league, European Cup for Portugal so as the nations league with Portugal, serie a titles , copa de rey , world club cup...messi other other hand only has la liga titles and copa de rey ( finito) .... a general in the army will prefer a sniper that will strike dead top ranked officers in war thN a soldier that just fires bullets sporadically... any real coach will take a Ronaldo ahead of a messi...fact
I don't think there is no need to argue with you because from ur analysis it seems u no nothing. You said messi only won laliga and copal deley, no champions league, no club world cup, no Olympic. Though u are entitle to ur opinion. I don't no where u get ur facts from.

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Atticusxsz(m): 2:37pm On Feb 09, 2021
FuckThaMod:
They judged GOAT status based on the number of top trophy like Champions League won. So they are very wrong to put Messi since he only has 3 and CR7 has 5. If we are talking base on statistics then Messi might have a claim, afterall there are great basketball players with higher stats than Jordan, e.g LeBron James
This is a big insult even though it might be a mistake, but trust the sick Messi fans to act like it's right. Hypocrites

Messi has 4 CL trophies and not 3 sir. grin
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Beverlyjean(f): 2:38pm On Feb 09, 2021
Kilishihunter:

So what happened against Ajax and Lyon? What happened during the world cup against Uruguay? Why didn't he uplift their spirit when the team was down

Ronaldo does go down without a fight ..he scored the only 2 goals juve had in both games... remember thst juve is not an attacking side... or do u think Messi will survive in juve?? Juve play Conservative football so goals hardly come by , but he still fires ... Portugal was an average European team that had never win anything...till he took charge as captain
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by anonymous1759(m): 2:38pm On Feb 09, 2021
ojaysam25:

Those two seasons, he was at unaio and sporting Lisbon who were not regulars in ucl then...thought you guys said he is all about goals. Now you are bringing assits ratoo here. What of others play maker that started before him.. Y Ain't they toping the chart.


You brought the assist Ratio I just quoted you . The argument is between Messi and Ronaldo. Messi also was not a regular starter in the two first seasons.
Going by stats which you know Messi will definitely break that assist record before Ronaldo retires . As the all time goal record Ronaldo is like 40 goals over Messi with two seasons ahead . a Player like Messi is can give you at least 30 goals a season despite his age.

The only bragging right Ronaldo might have over Messi is wining the Euros if Messi mistakenly wins it before he retires I don't think Ronaldo fans will have anything on him.
Messi has scored against all clubs around Europe so the argument against him moving out of Barca is stale but I'll like to see him move to Mancity to prove some people wrong .

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Beverlyjean(f): 2:39pm On Feb 09, 2021
Abdulmumin412:

I don't think there is no need to argue with you because from ur analysis it seems u no nothing. You said messi only won laliga and copal deley, no champions league, no club world cup, no Olympic. Though u are entitle to ur opinion. I don't no where u get ur facts from.

Is comprehension ur problem?? Dint u see whr I stated in the last 5 yrs... and ols stop mentioning children's cup
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Daare: 2:40pm On Feb 09, 2021
How can you start calling players G.O.A.T without them winning a single World Cup? This generation of analysts tire me o.
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Beverlyjean(f): 2:42pm On Feb 09, 2021
HBB1:


How does CR7 win on longevity and consistency?

Who has been in top 3 of world best more?

Ronaldo has featured more in top 3 than messi and was even 2nd to Lewandowski in the last poll ahead of messi
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Beverlyjean(f): 2:46pm On Feb 09, 2021
Atticusxsz:


Messi has 4 CL trophies and not 3 sir. grin

He won the first ad a squad player ...he dint even play more than 3-4 games and dint feature from the quarters ...
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Beverlyjean(f): 2:46pm On Feb 09, 2021
Yusman316:
One thing I have noticed of recent is that most arguments are now mostly based on people's sentiments and not really facts available. What has Michael Jordan achieved that LeBrom James hasn't? What has Lionel Messi achieved that Cristiano Ronaldo hasn't?

Thats y awards are crap... achievements is what determines the best ...
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Beverlyjean(f): 2:48pm On Feb 09, 2021
anonymous1759:



You brought the assist Ratio I just quoted you . The argument is between Messi and Ronaldo. Messi also was not a regular starter in the two first seasons.
Going by stats which you know Messi will definitely break that assist record before Ronaldo retires . As the all time goal record Ronaldo is like 40 goals over Messi with two seasons ahead . a Player like Messi is can give you at least 30 goals a season despite his age.

The only bragging right might have over Messi is wining the Euros if Messi mistakenly wins it before he retires I don't think Ronaldo fans will have anything on him.
Messi has scored against all clubs around Europe so the argument against him moving out of Barca is stale but I'll like to see him move to Mancity to prove some people wrong .

He only scored 25 goals last season all competitions compared to Ronaldo's 38 last season
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Kilishihunter: 2:49pm On Feb 09, 2021
Beverlyjean:


Ronaldo does go down without a fight ..he scored the only 2 goals juve had in both games... remember thst juve is not an attacking side... or do u think Messi will survive in juve?? Juve play Conservative football so goals hardly come by , but he still fires ... Portugal was an average European team that had never win anything...till he took charge as captain
All those ones are excuses. And did I hear you say Portugal was average. FYI Portugal got to the final of Euro 2004 in their country but lost to Greece. They had the likes of Figo, Simao, R. Carvalho Pauleta and co. Abi was Portugal not a force in the great Eusebio's time. Portugal should be thanking God for Eder that bailed them out and lemme tell you something what Messi suffered under Valverde and Setien is a child's play compared to whatever Ronaldo saw in Italy Afterall he joined the strongest team in Italy why didn't he join Napoli or Roma or AC Milan Look at what Zlatan turned a lowly Ac Milan side to To me Ronaldo didn't make Juve stronger because the only competition they suffered in is the Champions league They have been serial winners before he joined

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Angel1696: 2:53pm On Feb 09, 2021
Beverlyjean:


There's nothing like hate or bias ....all those thing u mentioned, Ronaldo had done all those stuff ( goals, assists, free kicks and dribbles) and the crazy thing is that he gets results with it ...messi only using his to claim la liga titles... Ronaldo is a goal getter, he is a force ... why should I take a messi ( even tho is is a fantastic player) that can't win me anything asides la liga , to a Ronaldo that has win multiple CL with 2 different teams , scores more important decisive goals than messi for both club and country and it has lead him to winning major trophies for both club and country... for the past 5seasons , Ronaldo has flawed messi when it comes to goals , decisive goals , assists in the CL and national team... in the past 5 years ronaldo has won la liga , Champions league, European Cup for Portugal so as the nations league with Portugal, serie a titles , copa de rey , world club cup...messi other other hand only has la liga titles and copa de rey ( finito) .... a general in the army will prefer a sniper that will strike dead top ranked officers in war thN a soldier that just fires bullets sporadically... any real coach will take a Ronaldo ahead of a messi...fact
what do you smoke?
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by owowa145(m): 3:01pm On Feb 09, 2021
HBB1:


How does CR7 win on longevity and consistency?

Who has been in top 3 of world best more?
Now, that is were u floored urself more.... Fifa the best, Ronaldo has been in top 3 more. Ballon d'or final 3... Ronaldo has attained it more than Messi... Go and do ur assignment well..

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by owowa145(m): 3:02pm On Feb 09, 2021
Kilishihunter:

All those ones are excuses. And did I hear you say Portugal was average. FYI Portugal got to the final of Euro 2004 in their country but lost to Greece. They had the likes of Figo, Simao, R. Carvalho Pauleta and co. Abi was Portugal not a force in the great Eusebio's time. Portugal should be thanking God for Eder that bailed them out and lemme tell you something what Messi suffered under Valverde and Setien is a child's play compared to whatever Ronaldo saw in Italy Afterall he joined the strongest team in Italy why didn't he join Napoli or Roma or AC Milan Look at what Zlatan turned a lowly Ac Milan side to To me Ronaldo didn't make Juve stronger because the only competition they suffered in is the Champions league They have been serial winners before he joined
Becos if Messi leaves, he will join Napoli.. Ment is worrying u

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Hermzou: 3:06pm On Feb 09, 2021
introvert2:
. well,that is your opinion sir.

no dats d Truth, Leo is d real GOAT
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Angel1696: 3:06pm On Feb 09, 2021
RealEzee:
What I consider is that in a team with fewer solutions, Ronaldo is a better fit because he provides many solutions," Simeone began. ... "Cristiano can decide a game in a different way, he doesn't need ten attacks. He scored two headers against us and we were out," the Atletico boss said


The return leg between juve and barca with CR7 been present silenced the whinning lots who were drunk on the victory they had over juve when TheGOAT was absent, baba showed up to the party and killed the show netting twice, abeg was Messi not on the pitch that day too? grin magical kill u Der

Magic CR7 because atletico madrid were awful
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by anonymous1759(m): 3:09pm On Feb 09, 2021
Beverlyjean:


He only scored 25 goals last season all competitions compared to Ronaldo's 38 last season

Messi was injured for 8 weeks remember?
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by OJEEMAH(m): 3:09pm On Feb 09, 2021
Beverlyjean:


He only scored 25 goals last season all competitions compared to Ronaldo's 38 last season
Liar...... 25 goals in La Liga only. 32goals in all competition. He scored 55 goals the previous season....why use just last season that Ronaldo scored more?

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Mikeangelo0433: 3:14pm On Feb 09, 2021
Messi is an exceptional player. He can even play a game without scoring a goal or providing an assist and end up being the man of the match. I rate Messi highly for that cos he makes the game. However, a certain Portuguese can only be the motm when he scores a brace or a hat trick and in a game where he fails the score, he gets the worst ratings most of the time.

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by ojaysam25(m): 3:14pm On Feb 09, 2021
anonymous1759:



You brought the assist Ratio I just quoted you . The argument is between Messi and Ronaldo. Messi also was not a regular starter in the two first seasons.
Going by stats which you know Messi will definitely break that assist record before Ronaldo retires . As the all time goal record Ronaldo is like 40 goals over Messi with two seasons ahead . a Player like Messi is can give you at least 30 goals a season despite his age.

The only bragging right Ronaldo might have over Messi is wining the Euros if Messi mistakenly wins it before he retires I don't think Ronaldo fans will have anything on him.
Messi has scored against all clubs around Europe so the argument against him moving out of Barca is stale but I'll like to see him move to Mancity to prove some people wrong .
Yea.. I brought the assits because you guys said he is all About goals...yet you Praise iniesta and Xavi forgetting he has more assist than the duo ..hmm

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by anonymous1759(m): 3:19pm On Feb 09, 2021
ojaysam25:

Yea.. I brought the assits because you guys said he is all About goals...yet you Praise iniesta and Xavi forgetting he has more assist than the duo ..hmm

Xavi and Iniesta are part of the reasons Ronaldo won only 2 laligas for about 10 years . Back to back Euros and World Cup those guys are play markers don't even go there. Those guys cease midfield their pass might not lead to the actual assist but they created the space.
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by ojaysam25(m): 3:33pm On Feb 09, 2021
anonymous1759:


Xavi and Iniesta are part of the reasons Ronaldo won only 2 laligas for about 10 years . Back to back Euros and World Cup those guys are play markers don't even go there. Those guys cease midfield their pass might not lead to the actual assist but they created the space.
And the reason he won back to back to back cl kor...argue with statistics ronaldo has more assist than them...thank you also for highlighting the duo they are the reason Barcelona Was so successful.. Without them Barcelona is shit.

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by FuckThaMod: 3:36pm On Feb 09, 2021
Atticusxsz:


Messi has 4 CL trophies and not 3 sir. grin
It's 3, he didn't participate in 2006

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by FuckThaMod: 3:37pm On Feb 09, 2021
Mexico09:

Indomie generation grin grin grin
Beans generation
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by ojaysam25(m): 3:37pm On Feb 09, 2021
Mikeangelo0433:
Messi is an exceptional player. He can even play a game without scoring a goal or providing an assist and end up being the man of the match. I rate Messi highly for that cos he makes the game. However, a certain Portuguese can only be the motm when he scores a brace or a hat trick and in a game where he fails the score, he gets the worst ratings most of the time.
Same way he was MTM against Bayern abi.

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by DesChyko: 3:44pm On Feb 09, 2021
anonymous1759:



Five more assist than Messi with two seasons ahead of Messi ? That's a wonderful Stats for Messi .

Can you even believe that?

The so called Penaldo/tap-in merchant having more assists than every single so called 'playmakers' in Champions League history??

Less noise please.

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Techiekingee(m): 3:49pm On Feb 09, 2021
FuckThaMod:
They judged GOAT status based on the number of top trophy like Champions League won. So they are very wrong to put Messi since he only has 3 and CR7 has 5. If we are talking base on statistics then Messi might have a claim, afterall there are great basketball players with higher stats than Jordan, e.g LeBron James
This is a big insult even though it might be a mistake, but trust the sick Messi fans to act like it's right. Hypocrites
And u tink Ronaldo is d player with the most UCL titles?...lol
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Kilishihunter: 3:49pm On Feb 09, 2021
FuckThaMod:

It's 3, he didn't participate in 2006
Hmmm Hmmm Otunba Linus somebody that played in the round of 16 against Chelsea before an injury halted his season Take am easy na

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Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by BadEnglish(m): 3:57pm On Feb 09, 2021
ThierryJay:
The sports world knows that Messi is the numero uno when it comes to football. It's a no-brainer.

The OP should know that it goes beyond number of UCL titles, as Michael Jordan's six NBA titles is also not the highest in the NBA.

Being the GOAT is about having and demonstrating that unrivalled magical ability on-field week-in week-out. The way Ronaldinho brought joy to the global audience's faces even though there were tons of strikers who outscored him. It has never been about who has the highest statistical numbers, else we'd say Bruno Fernandes is already a far better player than Paul scholes and David Beckham combined, but who has the highest influence.

As average as Messi has been generally this season, he still has the highest man of the match awards in Spain and possibly in the whole of the top five European leagues this season. When you have a player that scores, dribbles, shoots well, good at free kicks, playmakes, gives the highest number of key passes and assists and does all these consistently, he's definitely better than other one-dimensional players with no other impact but putting the ball into the net, especially through penalties.

C'est fini
Re: Lionel Messi Named Football's GOAT During NFL Super Bowl by Lashist(m): 4:03pm On Feb 09, 2021
Beverlyjean:


There's nothing like hate or bias ....all those thing u mentioned, Ronaldo had done all those stuff ( goals, assists, free kicks and dribbles) and the crazy thing is that he gets results with it ...messi only using his to claim la liga titles... Ronaldo is a goal getter, he is a force ... why should I take a messi ( even tho is is a fantastic player) that can't win me anything asides la liga , to a Ronaldo that has win multiple CL with 2 different teams , scores more important decisive goals than messi for both club and country and it has lead him to winning major trophies for both club and country... for the past 5seasons , Ronaldo has flawed messi when it comes to goals , decisive goals , assists in the CL and national team... in the past 5 years ronaldo has won la liga , Champions league, European Cup for Portugal so as the nations league with Portugal, serie a titles , copa de rey , world club cup...messi other other hand only has la liga titles and copa de rey ( finito) .... a general in the army will prefer a sniper that will strike dead top ranked officers in war thN a soldier that just fires bullets sporadically... any real coach will take a Ronaldo ahead of a messi...fact
Haba linus...show ur stats where ronaldo pass messi in assists and being a playmaker minus goals o

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