Patrioticman007:


What of religious tolerance ?.

Religious tolerance is irrelevant in many cases if the government is sincere and people use their head.
What stops Kwara state from establishing more schools or even completely taking over those missionary schools?
Even in marxist China, there are religious schools and you don't enrol there and start complaining of unfavourable rules.

Mary mother of Jesus wore hijab as against the half unclothedness displayed to day by the Antichrist.

So much for your tolerance. A person either wears hijab or they are naked and anti-christ and you wonder
why religious tension is rising everywhere. You can tell if a person is a devil just by the presence or absence
of hijab, yet you are a preacher of religious tolerance.

Today's churches are Antichrist if they hate covering of ladies unclothedness.

I am not a christian, so I won't waste my time trying to defend a position that I don't subscribe to.

Maobichek:


Good morning, the basis in which MURIC is fighting is because government now grant aids to those missionary Sch, that is by extension, they are public Sch funded by government.

The Churches who originally established these Schs should not have handed their schools to the government OK. These schools still bears the names of the Churches but is now being run by the government.

Living Faith Church has Kingdom Heritage Schools, it is owned and run by Living Faith Church, government does not support the school financially so no Muslim will go there and mess up OK. Covenant University is owned by Living Faith Church, no Muslim lady will go there and go against the rules of the school.

There are Islamic schools were every girl/woman must wear hijab so Christian girls must comply to their rules and regulations but once it's a public school established or taken over by the government; no matter the name of the school, government decides on its administration OK.

your mumuric should have said that government should stop funding religious school or you want us to list the number of public Islamic school running on government money in the North? so why is your MUMURIC only Concern with the missionary's own?

Tranquility4u:



I see no reason why Muslim students should be denied
their constitutional rights.

All Muslim students, in particular, female students should be allowed to dress in Hijab since these schools are for the public.


“Are the schools not grant-aided? So you want to use
public money to persecute Muslim children until they
submit to forceful conversion? Even if they are
missionary schools, must they force female Muslim
students to strip? We are not surprised because it is
part of their old way of forceful conversion. Nigerian
Christians should desist from using Muslim children to
subject their parents to psychological trauma. We will
not go back to slavery. Enough is enough.

Can I walk into a mosque naked because govt funded it? Use your brain. It is govt aided and not govt sponsored. Next thing you will say is that every school that got covid palliative is govt aided and open to hijab nonsense. Does military use hijab?

RisenPhoenix1:


I saw it in a researched study online. Whatever the case may be, the schools have been publicly funded for decades now.



All this serves no purpose. If there were schools that allowed students to learn in an atmosphere of voluntary inclusion, then that is laudable. However, such an atmosphere cannot be imposed forcibly on a section of the students. By excluding Muslim girls who refuse to disobey their religious tenets, you are proposing an atmosphere of seclusion different from the portrait you draw. In this case, the inclusion is no longer voluntary, it is forced.

@bolded. This is what I find especially interesting. What is it about the Muslim hijab that Christians find so oppressive to themselves? And those schools are no longer missionary schools, so calling them "your own house" is a gross misnomer. They belong to the government.



Again, the Christians in Islamic missionary schools follow the rule voluntarily. If covering their heads was against their religion, and it was imposed on them, I would absolutely consider it their right to open up their heads just as I consider it their right for Muslim girls to cover theirs.

And those who whip up religious sentiments are those who impose rules specifically targeting a religious group, not those who point it out. Why does a rule imposed by a group of teachers in a public institution override the national constitution? Muslims say that the hijab is an important part of their doctrine. Who are we to deprive them of it or interprete their doctrine for them? The elephant in the room is these are publicly funded schools paid for by government funds. Private individuals or groups cannot have any say in what rules are imposed. And the government should only enact those rules that are in the public interest. Kwara state is predominantly Muslim. Why raise rancour in a Muslim state for no discernible benefit? What does preventing them from wearing the hijab fulfill? This question remains unanswered.



On the contrary, I have no interest in the matter, my argument purely arises out of irritation at the intolerant way Christians behave, and if you look at my first comment, this was precisely my point. Let us agree for the sake of semantics that the schools are still owned by the missionaries and funded by them. What is the downside of permitting Muslim students to wear their scarves? Since you believe that you are the logical and reasonable one here, explain this to me in a logical manner. What would it cost them to permit the scarf, or brown shoes, or a yellow bow tie; if a huge proportion of the population of that region desire it so passionately as part of their religious doctrine?



The mud houses taken over by the government no longer exist. And all lands belong to the various state governments. They cannot restore schools renovated with state funds to private ownership. The only real solution is to rename the schools using numbers and to run them completely along secular lines. The solution to uniting the country does not lie in imposing one set of religious rules over another or to hand over state funded schools to one religious group to control, but to completely secularise the process of education whereby every student can practise his/her religion without fear of being targeted for their beliefs. No state paid teacher should have the right to force students to disobey his/her faith tenets by either forcing them to wear or to remove whatever applies to their faith doctrine, or to pray with a group that they do not subscribe to; or even to pray at all. Students should have the right to state that they do not wish to pray and this should be fully respected.

"Whatever the case is, the schools have been publicly funded for decades". That's the problem. Government took over privately owned property taking advantage of laws used by the military. Was that proper? Funding it does not take away to wrong done by leaders using government power.

Now we all suffer the effects of the evil done.

Anyway, thanks for discussing decently. Do have a good evening.

oloyedewaris:

Because na your papa get the school abi

OK na ur own papa get am. Mugun

bareal:


You are really religiously confused. There's Islamiyyat and Almadiyya schools government didn't change its name so religious jingoists like you can peacefully attend. Same way for St. Andrews and St. Michaels school so that christians won't bother the muslims.

Let muslims attend islamic schools and christians attend christians schools whether sponsored by the government or not and let us have peace in this space oga

So where do children of atheists go? What about children of traditionalists? There are no more Christian or Muslim schools. Only secular government ones now. All names should be changed to district numbers like in the Chinese system. Nobody should be forced to wear a scarf and no one should be forced to remove it in any public school as the constitution dictates. Everyone to his/her conscience. Those who want religious education should go to private schools. Enough of the foolishness of all religionists.

And that is positively my last word on this dumb matter.

Tranquility4u:



I see no reason why Muslim students should be denied
their constitutional rights.

All Muslim students, in particular, female students should be allowed to dress in Hijab since these schools are for the public.


“Are the schools not grant-aided? So you want to use
public money to persecute Muslim children until they
submit to forceful conversion? Even if they are
missionary schools, must they force female Muslim
students to strip? We are not surprised because it is
part of their old way of forceful conversion. Nigerian
Christians should desist from using Muslim children to
subject their parents to psychological trauma. We will
not go back to slavery. Enough is enough.

Who told you that those schools are grant-aided.

Every schools has their rules and regulations, if you can't live by them then take yourself somewhere.

muslim a region of blood testy filled with vampires

oloyedewaris:

Yes so far they will wear the school uniform, socks, shoe and so on

You people will just be looking for silly excuses, these people just asked to cover their head, thats all

if they need to use hijab.. let them go to ile keu... this is missionary school, get it right

Nice one

LegendHero:
MURIC is right on this one.

So why should Christians really care that something as basic as hijab should not be used in school?

I totally disagree with you on this, if you cannot follow the rules laid down I see no reason why you should attend their school. No one is forcing you to attend.

All this hijab are adopted culture copied from the arab world,its not sango or obatala wear hijab,is a way of life in the arab,hijab keeps a woman's decipline,but here in nigeria its other way round,a prostitute will put on hijab,kidnapper too hide under this hijab,mischivious things are being carry out under this mascurade outfit call hijab,hijab is criminal and deadly to our community.terrorist hide under it to carry out their attack.zero tolerance to hisjab.

molas02:

if they need to use hijab.. let them go to ile keu... this is missionary school, get it right

Missionary school run by the government with the tax citizen pays

Ayomi90:
OK na ur own papa get am. Mugun

It's a government school just bearing Christian name, period

shadeyinka:

Why are Muslims afraid of Government withdrawing their support. Three years ago when Christians asked to fully fund their school because of the massive dilapidation, it wasn't the government that protested, it was these same Muslims!

I can bet it with you that those schools will flourish. There are testimonies to that effect by our other schools!

Shut up, Schools run with every citizens tax

oloyedewaris:

Missionary school run by the government with the tax citizen pays

that is why we have Islamic schools run by the government with the tax paid by citizen. can Muslims schools allow anyone to come in any other religions cloth to school. like neck colar, cape, cele cross etc
I what u cannot take u pipu always like to give others

shadeyinka:

The "you" refers to your people in Ilorin supported by MURIC to impose the use of Hijab on schools that doesn't belong to them.

The propietors are the following churches whose members levied themselves and contributed from the Catholic church, ECWA Church, UMCA Church, Cherubim and Seraphim church, Anglican Church etc.

These are the propietors!

Ok when last did these churches went to the schools to check the conditions and when last did they make any contributions to the school, mtcheew

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Wouldn't it be better if the missionary schools stop admitting non adherents to thier Faith ab initio to thier schools, rather than admitting them knowing full well that they don't practice such religion then forcing them to do so?

That will be a form of racism..imagine writing common entrance and not been given admission because of your religion and not your grades...Parents should stop causing problems and making it look like religion is a problem in our schools.....

aremuforlife:

Da che?

it as come to stay even the Western world whom u pple blow down to allow wearing hajib in their schools

SaintBeehot:
I totally disagree with you on this, if you cannot follow the rules laid down I see no reason why you should attend their school. No one is forcing you to attend.

Alright cool.

I have a question.

Does the school have a constitution that Muslims must not attend?

Is the school a government school?

If yes, who is funding the school?

If the government fund the school, are they collecting taxes from Muslims as part of the state IGR to service education?

If yes, then why should the Muslims paying tax be denied the right to attend government schools?

No matter how much I try to think about this, I still see no reason why those kids should not be allowed to put on their hijab. What does it take from Christians? What does it really take to see a kid on hijab and how does it affect the Christians in the school?

Tranquility4u:
The female Muslim students are the ones to wear the Hijab on their body, not their Christian schoolmates.

So why striping and denying them their fundamental and constitutional rights?

Afterall, Britain and the United States of America and many other countries more developed than this nation, allow the use of Hijab in their schools.

But the Christian extremists want to control even the way Muslims dress, so that Muslim students will be half-naked like them.

That will never happen!
Love
Enough is enough!

Oga it's very Simple. If Islamic school lyk Ansarudeen and Co allows ppl to go to schl without Hijab, then we won't be having ds conversation. If Alikima University allow sum students not to use Hijab den No wahala..
U need to understand dt there ar so many schls in ilorin dt u can attend if u don't want to go to a mission school.. for d record those schls ar built by different churches.. u of all ppl knw dt u can't enter a Muslim schl in ilorin without Hijab.. if am to attend dt schl i av to follow der rules.

Thelife:


your mumuric should have said that government should stop funding religious school or you want us to list the number of public Islamic school running on government money in the North? so why is your MUMURIC only Concern with the missionary's own?

I'm not a Muslim and it makes no sense calling MURIC "MUMURIC." You can still convey your message without insult nor abuse.

jamiudinho:

it as come to stay even the Western world whom u pple blow down to allow wearing hajib in their schools

Which of the western world allows hijab in their schools. You guys are intolerance but you want others to tolerate you by crying victimization.

Maobichek:


I'm not a Muslim and it makes no sense calling MURIC "MUMURIC." You can still convey your message without insult nor abuse.

1. I don't care about what you are or who you are

2. who are you to tell me what to call someone and what not to call someone?

3. guess you are blind while they are calling CAN as Criminal association of Nigeria, can of worm e.t.c.

if you don't have anything good to contribute why don't you just read and pass

molas02:

that is why we have Islamic schools run by the government with the tax paid by citizen. can Muslims schools allow anyone to come in any other religions cloth to school. like neck colar, cape, cele cross etc
I what u cannot take u pipu always like to give others

Get your facts right, no islamic school run by the government in Nigeria will force student to put on hijab

Cantonese:


"Whatever the case is, the schools have been publicly funded for decades". That's the problem. Government took over privately owned property taking advantage of laws used by the military. Was that proper? Funding it does not take away to wrong done by leaders using government power.

Now we all suffer the effects of the evil done.

Anyway, thanks for discussing decently. Do have a good evening.

Based on the context of this discourse, I genuinely want to know how you are suffering. Like a young girl putting on a harmless hijab makes you suffer. You now understand why that poster said Christians are very intolerant?

aremuforlife:

Which of the western world allows hijab in their schools. You guys are intolerance but you want others to tolerate you by crying victimization.

u have no choice our girls can not b like ur girls whom walk around naked in the name of civilization

Who let the dog out? Who let the mad man of muric out?

Thelife:


I went to visit a friend of mine teaching in one Islamic missionary public school in Oyo state, I was shock when I say them forcing non moslom to recite quranic prayer, and as they notice that I'm a Christian, they told there pupils to stop the recitation and have their sit, I smile and told my friend that for you to take your child to Islamic founded school then you should expect your child to learn islam.


even in nasarawa state, despite the fact that it a Christian majority state, most of the public islamic missionary schools do force all there students to offer Islamic study.

In the same way these missionary schools forces all student to sing Christian songs. The particular primary school i went to told us to buy this book called SOP(song of praise) and we're forced to recite them during assembly

So we're are talking of dressing and not academic activities




Hypocrites

jansonn:
If ethnic difference doesn't divide Nigeria, religion will eventually. I give up on this country shaa

If its division that'll bring the peace at last let it come.

But Ex Kwara State Governor Cornelius Adebayo was a Christian

Kwara has too many Christians to be a Muslim State