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coogar:
and who says men aren't smarter overall? of course, the smartest person in this world would be a man - that does not mean you will not find hundreds of millions of women that are smarter than men.

the primordial existence also backs the man to be the smarter being. God said that much when He cursed eve. He said because eve allowed herself to be deceived by a stranger(serpent), her love would always be for her husband and he shall rule over her.

God was convinced the serpent would never have been able to deceive adam. adam had spent a considerable length of time alone before eve was made & no serpent bothered him. why did the devil choose eve? because the devil was sure the woman is intellectually vulnerable.

case closed!

Ok if so, then I agree, Men are by virtue smarter/wiser and hence women ought to submit to her man, regardless of what her qualification is in life, no one cares, lol

God knows best.

We all know that being submissive is in the context of marital institution, and that means Man has the authority over his wife"

This is simple na lol

Why are we fighting.

Stillfire:
The English language is very clear on what submission/being submissive is. We should not add jara into it that the wife can have a say etc. That is no more submission o. You people better call it something else and stop deceiving yourselves.

Thank you for this input

coogar:
and you can bet that the woman he married even possess a lower IQ......perhaps that of a kwashiokored pubic louse. nothing pleases women more than a super-intelligent partner.

women get orgäsms for intelligence, leadership skills, authority, etc. why do you think most nigerian women would gladly sleep with their pastors even when they are married?

LoL

Well, we can always agree to disagree, but i maintain my standpoint ,which is, intelligence isn't the whole criterion for submission. A more logical explanation would have been on the primordial existence of man over women,hence the presiding advantage, that in itself doesn't speak of individual intelligence ,except you wanna say the intelligence lie in the existence (then we can conclude that men are smarter) you and I know that isn't true

coogar:
of course.....
mention one institution or kingdom where the dullest individual in that institution was made the head.

Institution ?..... Marriage !

That's where aa man can still be head even when he has the IQ of a sick house fly

coogar:
where did i say women shouldn't submit?
i am the staunchest disciple of submission. go to the previous pages and see my early rejoinders. i am a fan of submission - why shouldn't a woman submit to her hubby? who chose him for her? if she's not ready to submit, she has no business in marriage!



in a case where the woman is more intelligent; the marriage is doomed! i said that earlier. the man's ego would always get in the way even when he knows she's more intelligent. this is why i said a woman should never marry a less-intelligent partner.

Then I don't think we need to argue any further, because all this intelligence talk only boils down to the hurt it does to her ego which shouldn't be the man's business ,if she was dumb enough to marry a dumb man.

Coogar, if I get you well, what you keep saying is intelligence, a yardstick for nothing but individualism and hence cant be the force of submission to her husband.

This is sad, if intelligence is the whole and all, that means the headship is dependent on the said intelligence.

coogar:
pray tell - what separates boys from the men?



how do you intend to convince a non-believer of the bible? you have to speak the language he understands & your yardstick must cater to all humans who intend to get married. the bible is not your leading step, i am afraid.



that's because God expects the woman He gave 5 sensory organs to use her common sense to choose the most intelligent candidate in her long list of suitors. he should love her wholeheartedly & she should submit to him.




no one disputes the above.....
the point is, such smart women should aim & marry smarter men. they should not marry down or aim below their level. it will be extremely hard for them to submit to a less-intelligent husband.




age is not necessarily intelligence.
i have seen old women with the emotional maturity of a toothpaste. i have seen young women who are actually super-intelligent.

if a woman marries a man younger than her - desperation must have led her to it. sit her down, ask her if marrying a younger man has always been her dream, she would tell you "hell no".

even if she does, she must make sure the younger man is still more intelligent than her. it would help her a lot in submitting to him. if she's older & she's more intelligent than him, how the heck would she be able to submit to him?

You still don't seem to get my own point, being that, if you agree with me that women should marry more intelligent men so they can easily submit to him , are you not in turn agreeing that, women have to still submit to their men but intelligence (which I keep telling you shouldn't be the yardstick) has to be the propelling boost for submission ?

In a case where the woman is more intelligent, that means ,the man has to do the submitting ?

My dear, I already alluded to the fact that I don't argue with non believers, because we share contrary views, however, I did state that those non believers must have some sort of yardstick to govern themselves, I am not to speak on their behalf.

coogar:
pray tell - what separates boys from the men?
how do you intend to convince a non-believer of the bible? you have to speak the language he understands & your yardstick must cater to all humans who intend to get married. the bible is not your leading step, i am afraid.
that's because God expects the woman He gave 5 sensory organs to use her common sense to choose the most intelligent candidate in her long list of suitors. he should love her wholeheartedly & she should submit to him.

If a non believer doesn't get you, how can you speak his own language ? When you are a believer ?

Intelligence is subjective, some women are indeed smarter than men etc.

By your initial logic of omen marrying older men, if a woman marries a man younger than her ,should the book change to "man submit to your wife" ? lol

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#sigh

it then means you expect her to have separated the chaff from the wheat before deciding to walk the aisle. if that's the case, isn't intelligence the factor that separates boys from the men?

yet, you said intelligence isn't a factor.
#sigh

it then means you expect her to have separated the chaff from the wheat before deciding to walk the aisle. if that's the case, isn't intelligence the factor that separates boys from the men?

yet, you said intelligence isn't a factor. [/quote]Intelligence,as a criterion amongst others can't be the only factor that separates boys from men this is a joke that isn't funny at all.

It is obvious wisdom is not taught, anyway, that's not the point of this thread. If you want to speak for non christians, you have to be one, I speak from my christian background and if you don't believe in it,then its obvious you aren't one.

I don't think God said "woman submit to your man because he is more intelligent than you"

Smh

coogar:
i think we should speak for everyone.
the grim divorce stats does not single out christians only, it speaks for everyone.



they rely on intelligence - just like christians should also do.

If you believe we should speak for everyone, we certainly can't use the non religious standpoint as a yardstick.

coogar:
of course, there are.....
but they are far & few between.



i wholesomely disagree.

a woman should submit to an irresponsible man that cannot make sound decisions? a chronic gambler? a crack-addict? an unrepentant alcoholic? even if he says they should go commit crime together, she should yield and say "yes, my lord"??

oh dear......

You don't seem to be getting the point here, if a woman decides to get married to her dull man, its her prerogative, she shouldn't come in to marriage to change the game as though she institutionalised the institution of marriage.

coogar:
what about the hundreds of millions of people who don't believe in the holy book? they should not get married?

I don't think we are speaking for the people that don't believe in God or the holy book, are you one ?

Surely they must have some sort or standpoint ,either by culture or tradition that governs their ways of life as regards to submissiveness .

freecocoa:
Oh really! So women should just submit to me, even if the man is retarded or 'imbecilic' in nature(no offense to imbec1les).

If you are an intelligent man, you'd know when to let her take the lead, unless you also believe that, being a man, has made you more intelligent than women by dafault.

Madam, again, you are alluding to intelligence as though its a heavy perk for submission, will intelligence take you to heaven ?

I am not of the opinion that men are more intelligent ,but that intelligence or not, woman by default should submit to her man.

coogar:
so what's the determinant factor? dullness?
submission certainly centres on making key decisions. why would you submit to a partner that is clueless about certain situations?

if intelligence isn't linked to submission then i dunno what is....

Obviously being intelligent is a criterion I won't miss out but it most certainly not ascribed to intelligence as a whole and certainly not dullness, we don't know these things to wisdom.

How about obeying the holy book first and leaving authority to the Man, which by primordial existence is bestowed headship to his nature/gender ?

If we aren't looking at this from a religious base then I guess we shouldn't also look at it from a non religious point of view.

If God in his infinite wisdom can assert that woman should submit to her husband that he has the authority over her and what not, why are we looking at a different book of things on grounds that some don't practise religion, are you of such background ?

Intelligence has nothing to do with whom you submit to...I think it'd be a dumb assertion to surmise that intelligence is the determinant factor in deciding submission.

What would happen to people like us who are only attracted to intelligent women huh ?

Usually I tell people I don't argue with people who don't believe in God hence the religious standpoint of things aren't their perspective.

But let's say we don't wanna argue from a religious aspect now, we all know no two different things are entirely equal (religion and even science proves this),but a balance is assured still. Yes, even in equality,one party has a slight edge over the other which draws the conclusion of the hierarchical order of the presiding party asserting authority over the other.

Maybe he refused to squeeze some in the hands of these uniformed rogues,even at that, I doubt the driver knows he right from left....

I really don't get it though, why all of a sudden, Saraki's citizenry is being questioned ? After having been in the Nigeria mainstream politics for over a decade now.

LoL

You lot will continue to be in the cry-baby category as far as saraki is concerned lol

Pathetic bunch

Soloweezy:
Well she's obviously scared of the possibility that the guy will run away. And I don't blame her. But that's her choice. If this guy truly doesn't approach his lady for sex, then this shouldn't be a problem for him. Or maybe he's lying....

You people don't seem to get it, its obvious these ones here are kids, why is she scared she'll get dumped afterwards,is it not because she actually has nothing else to offer aside s3x ?

If a guy leaves after s3x ,wouldn't it mean she lacks depth in character,good-wise . Girls that think of s3x as the ultimate are cheap and dependent so much that they get dumped all the way. A well secure,self esteemed girl who knows the ethos of independence with her emotions,mental self wouldn't worry and if she truly decides to stay chaste, It wouldn't be because of the fear of being dumped afterwards.

netizenbuzz:
Now you equate dignity to virginity? Nairalanders won't give me brain damage with their level of stupidity.

"Dignity in innocence" were my words not dignity equals virginity, please get a spectacle

Its her choice to abstain from s3x till marriage, there's actually nothing wrong in doing so.

There's nothing wrong in being a non-virgin and still abstaining too.

But ladies shouldn't attach undue power to s3x as though is a determinant for marriage. Guys marry you for the good that you are not abstaining or being a s3x maniac, in your case@ Op, she has lost every right to dignity in innocence(not being a virgin/purity) but doesn't mean she doesn't owe it to her self to abstain but you should leave such ladies alone who attach condition,saying she doesn't want it on grounds that "you'd run away" if after, to me,its a clear indication that she only has her body(which isn't pure anyway) to offer and as the tool to procuring something as blissful as marriage.

Such girls will rarely stay loyal to you, because of course s3x is what it is, she obviously has the urge like you too,easing her self out, just not with you in order to appear as the holy mary before you.

I always pity such men that agree on preconditioned situation!

Your wife is your wife,you married her after all,I don't think she deserves this. Be with your wife and work things out.

With the contemporary resolution of political awareness in people's minds now,politicians, public office holders dare not meddle in-discreetly with funds, or else, second term isn't assured.

Ikpeazu obviously knows what the time is now lol

Let the construction begin already, it is long overdue. The people of Abia deserve this stupendous breeze of change ...

We don't know what could have probably ensued between them,even at that it still doesn't justify her action.

Sad!

I personally watched and monitored that Imo-Osun tie to see and hoped Imo surpass Osun, and it miraculously did.

LoL

scholes0:
Point remains, that I have Images of what the polls looked like as at the time it was declared CLOSED.
do you know how polling works at all?

No, Point remains that it is done and dusted , and besides, ain't no one got time to see a clock manipulated screen grabbed detail.