Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 6:53pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
superhumanist: Are there not goat killers in Europe?
Are there not lizards abroad? Do you know the point am making there cos you dont seem to? Have you changed your English name to either of thr above i mentioned which has "deeper meaning" like your guy said? |
TV/Movies › Re: Double wahala for Nigerian Youths.The BBnaija Factor. by princfred(m): 1:49pm On Apr 23, 2018*. Modified: 8:43am On Apr 24, 2018 |
greiboy: A funny Nigerian lady tried to justify this craziness by categorically stating that her love for BBN is similar to my love of football.
I just laughed at that fallacy
Footballers are trained professionals who spend nearly 5 to 6 hours everyday training and about 100 mins running around on a football field under immerse pressure just to entertain us.
BbN contestants on the other hand, are simply excuse for entertainment and most contestants cannot even be seen as entertainers in the real sense of the word.
It gathers so much following because of the unpredictable nature of the various dramas going on in the house, but after watching almost 5 different big brother shows like I did, you won't find anything unpredictable about the show anymore.
The loud mouths The gossiping crew The love birds (try Kevin Pam and tazania chick because they actually got married)
The cute guys The fighters The quiet ones that never win, but go very far and almost always a lady
The crazy lady everyone hates The lady that get bleeped etc
The winners are always the down to earth men or ladies who can connect with the audience.
So like Rico like Kelvin, like uti like karen, like efe like miracle.
I honestly feel it's another wasted three months where the country's legislation became a joke and Fulani herdsmen continued their carnage, but I don't expect anyone to care
Ever wondered why we ended here in the first place Now, you see why i follow you. You see thesame picture i see. If i see any of those contestants i may not even know them. I followed BbA involving Kelvin and that Tanzanian back then but lost interest from there. |
Politics › Re: The New N24 Billion EFCC Headquarters In Pictures by princfred(m): 1:35pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
That's the biggest achievement of Nigerians - build big houses. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 11:35am On Apr 23, 2018 |
superhumanist: It is a stereotype. Are Nigerians fraudsters? See another matter all together? Is crayfish bent? Is that a stereotype? |
Politics › Re: Response For Those Calling Igbos 2nd Class Citizens Of Nigeria by princfred(m): 11:26am On Apr 23, 2018 |
Ngokafor: Please stop disturbing yourself.....
In Nigeria being a 1st class citizen is when you follow cows around in the bush,shagging them at will when conji grips you ...or breeding kids whom you will abandon in the streets with plates in hand to beg for alms.
Being a 1st class citizen in Nigerian means listening and following to some drug-baron in Lagos like a zombie,who wiill then convince you to vote for a certificateless cow-herder as President ..only to wallow in abject povery and deprivation in a short while brought on by the herdsmen's clueless policies....At the end of the day,Lagoon-jumping competition to end one's life becomes the only option...
That is being a '1st class' ctizen in Nigeria. Wow. |
Politics › Re: Atiku Abubakar Congratulates Miracle, Reiterates Nigerian Youths Are Not Lazy by princfred(m): 11:18am On Apr 23, 2018 |
clevvermind: To me, Atiku will be far better than Buhari as president. Of course |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 11:07am On Apr 23, 2018 |
Now are we contending that Beni people dont do jazz? Hmm na wa. Nothing wey we no go argue today. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 10:18am On Apr 23, 2018*. Modified: 11:39am On Apr 23, 2018 |
AreaFada2: Problem is people have been so ingrained to believe things. Usually without any proof. Prejudices and bigotry are part of mankind.
When I was a kid, we were told that if by mistake we should ever cross the Niger Bridge into the East that we would end up in a pot of soup! That Igbo will do just about anything to get money. They might even sell your house if they are your tenants and run away.
Fast forward many years later, we have married many Igbo women. Paid Bride Price all over Igbo land. But we never got eaten by Igbo people. Those prejudices might have remained had relatives not met those lovely ladies.
The Igbo women who came to marry into our family all narrated stories of witches flying during day time in Benin, stories they grew up hearing. Decades on, the kids they gave us are all doing well and marriages are all very strong.
Dude there are enough prejudices to go round. It is left to each individual to wallow in it or deliver themselves. Its not a matter of prejudice. I have lived in Benin, dated Beni girl. My brothers (not one) even schooled in Benin and as am talking to i have a house i can call mine and family lands right in Beni. Infact at a point during this long posts i had to check if you are my brorher who is still in beni as am talking to you because he bears thesame nick name with you in real life and i dont know if he is on NL. So you cant tell me there is no diabolism is benin without being a bad lie. Neither can i tell you there was/is no barbarism diabolism in igbo. Two of my brothers married Beni ladies i almost did and the other one may as he is currently dating a Beni girl. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 9:57am On Apr 23, 2018 |
vaxx: i have educate you enough bro, but it is not in my power to sensitize you from your acute ignorance, it will take the essence of quality expert to do so, bye for now eru oyinbo. Go back to your cultural inventions and rituals and stay away from inventions by whites. Mr Africa. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 9:55am On Apr 23, 2018*. Modified: 12:30pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
AreaFada2: My village has no ritual killing. I am so confident that I take my Western born & bred kids to my village with every opportunity. Nothing barbaric to see or hide. Please do not use your village to generalise. I have seen all our festivals. I do not miss any if in town. The position of my family at the top of traditional society means nothing can be hidden from me.
Europeans do NOT condemn old barbarity. Sacrificial human bodies found in bogs are kept like treasures in Museums. I know because I have seen them. Which Village Bini, what the hell are you smoking? Even till today the fetish rituals and diabolism in Beni is still legendary. Because they keep those bodies does not mean they are clamoring to go back to the culture that led to such sacrifices like you who is denying yours, downplaying them, wishing your own barbaric culture never stopped, blaming whites for stopping them, clamoring for it to return and so cant improve. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 9:44am On Apr 23, 2018 |
vaxx: will you not stop with your illiteracy, man ,people are reading your comment, the dude did not even know Muslim won the crusader war, you are seriously brainwash. should animal skin be limited to cloth only?the white brainwashed you to value their way of dressing better than you. it is even more powerful than gun. ''brainwashing''. you are suffering from it. am still wasting my time debating someone who has no to zero knowledge of what he is saying. bye You are a goat for thinking that wearing animal skin this day will make you civilized. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 9:38am On Apr 23, 2018 |
AreaFada2: Ok I should do like Buhari who said Nigerian youths are lazy. Generalise that we're Africans are all barbarians. 
How many friends & family have you that kill for ritual? Or will not condemn it? I have no ritual killers as friends or family. They would roundly condemn such in this day and age.
Is there any normal human being who condones killing?
But you appear to say that killings even in millions by Europeans are in order. That whatever their motive, those killings must be justified, including wars to take other people's native land from them. But a few done by Africans is more barbaric.
So who is a hypocrite here? You can hardly mention any village in Nigeria that was not involved in ritualistic killings as a function of African culture then before Europeans came and some still engage in them till this day. And yes if everyone has stuck to culture many but now would be killers, killed or killed for based on custom. Europeans frown at the past barbarism in their culture but Africans like you are feigning ignorance or downplaying theres. Am saying they stopped theirs and went a step ahead to ask you to stop yours. But in your low IQ you are clamoring to go back to your retrogressive culture just like a true African slowpoke who loves sticking to whatever his great grand fathers did in ignorance. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 9:31am On Apr 23, 2018 |
paxonel: I'm not acting ignorant, name is name. Whether it is username or real name or nickname, they are what people use to identity you in whatever location No mind them. Hypocrites . They for dey answer lion, lizard or goat killer as African lovers. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 9:26am On Apr 23, 2018*. Modified: 12:28pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
AreaFada2: Your problem is that you hate yourself by hating your culture. Every culture had evil in it. Be it killing innocent native Australians/ & Africans to take their land or whatever.
I do not know which tribe you come from but in my place we have no culture of evil forest. In fact we had Christianity already in the 1480s in Benin. An Oba of Benin was already a Christian 500 years ago. He was educated at the Portuguese Royal Military Academy in Lisbon. The Oba is the head of a traditional church like Queen Elizabeth is head of Anglican church. Today with one of West Africa's oldest Cathedrals till now. We're openly proud of our culture because nothing to hide. Maybe your people have a barbaric culture. Benin Empire banned slavery before 1650 when slave trade properly took off. Read my posts from years back here on NL. I have explained it here many times before. Benin people were by royal decree not allowed so buy or sell a slave. Benin people forbidden to be sold. A detailed record of slave origin places kept by European slave traders was posted here a few years back. Benin was not in it. Before that many argued with me here that Benin sold slaves. That record kept them shut finally. But records abound, such as by the French man called Landolphe who detailed how Benin do not sell slave.
Your generalisation and rants keep betraying your general assumption of what you think Africa was like in the past.
I actually visit Museums across Europe: Berlin, Paris, London, Amsterdam and others to see how people lived in Europe in the past. What they describe as their culture which has shape their lives today. I never miss any chance to go. Maybe seeing their past let you put past and present African & European lives into perspective.
As for condemning barbarity, what has that got to do with anything? Do Europeans lament the barbaric killings of foreigners, hate crimes that happen in Europe? Do they condemn their entire culture for the crimes of the few? NO.
If Benin could ban slave trade hundreds of years before the British did in 1807, why can't the current Nigerian nation modelled on your gods the Europeans find a solution? Is it that Western models do not have solutions to everything as you make it sound? 
What is the difference between ritual killing as happens sometimes in some parts of Africa and knife killings in UK or incessant gun crimes in America? None as they are all crimes that cost human lives. The motive is irrelevant. The consequences are same: loss of lives & much pain caused to the bereaved.
Your poor knowledge of world history has only caused you self-loathing. A very bad state of being. You therefore generalise as though is just one homogeneous entity with exact same history, culture and experiences historically. Far from it. You can see how Nigeria is struggling to gel. Because of historical and current cultures lumped together by your rampaging gods from Europe. Your problem is that you are beclouded by bias to appreciate reality. The difference is that Americans condemn there's but you are here trying to downplay or even deny barbaric killings. With all your knowledge of history you cant appreciate how whites helped improve African culture to be more civilized and that African development was very stunted and retrogressive when Europeans came. Even the Beni chief had to be schooled in Europe him for remain for Africa learn hunting. Ungrateful ingrates. IQ is not about accumulating certificates as thats the main thing Africans are good at while their western counterpart who is a dropout is inventing things. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 9:15am On Apr 23, 2018 |
vaxx: DAMM, you are so brainwashed not to know that animal skin is still wear today. we have it if inform of bet, shoe and bags even in form of jacket. you must be so primitive in your thinking. this dude do not even know white settle in Africa as far back as 14 century, AFRICA already had guns before then, the mali empire deals with kushite in Egypt. they do business in form of trade by barter, they were exchanged of guns and military tanning, the mali king then was the richest in the entire world. your master saw this juicy opportunity and put our progress on hold. and as for the technology, Europe stole the idea during the crusader war from the Arabs, when they fought the Muslim. your European master were fighting with cutlass and sword and the Muslims were using fire power(the idea they took from china in the usual business trip)). you need to learn history boy. the deficiency is show in a very big part of you. In your little mind people fighting with cutlass defeated those with fire power. How stupid can you get? Mind you, you were not talking about animal skin in form of belts as what Awolowo was wearing. Now did whites use guns to force you to were long-sleeved shirt why not keep tying wrapper and animal skin as full regalia like Awolowo since sticking to the past is the greatest thing your African brain got from history. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 8:46am On Apr 23, 2018*. Modified: 12:24pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
vaxx: [size=8pt]lol, which pat of the remote world do you hail from? as for me, my ttie wee not naked, we have Aso ofi that was made out quality wool fabric, we have quality Ewu etu that was made out of animal skin, and lot of eyes friendly beard as ornament to beautify our dresses long before the arrival of the west. This is the cloth obafemi Awolowo wore to negotiate for independence from your master in London years back. as for the house, we live quite very fine than some of your master, aborigines of Australia were once bush dweller, but we have grown to separate bush from house, we know bush belong to animal and house belong to human. we craft our technology in hoe and cutlass, arrow and other metal works, we stumble upon our own chemistry through the use of herbs and plant , that is still used today to cure many diseases and so. this progress was put to stop when your master come, they say we must stop not just by mouth but by the use of gun powder ( the technology that originally originate from china as a result of mistake), the worst part of it , they brainwashed you and your type of people. you now called your heritage barbaric while celebrating mediocrity. it is well . Its shameful that till this day they have to stop you from carrying out ritual sacrifice and the rest based on your retrogressive culture. I guess the Europeans Awolowo were negotiating with were naked. Did they use gun to stop you from wearing animal skin? Why not continue . I guess your arrows were so superior they could have helped you fight against slavery and Hitler. What ever development Africans had then was so elementary, rudimentary and lagging that they were useless and had to be replaced by better things from the west. Whites done already develop farming machines, guns and rockets you dey here they boast of hoes and arrows that Africans had then. If Africans were so developed why they no use their weapons and inventions defeat whites? From the onset and even now whats the culture of the average African if not, by any means even hook or crook, to buy car pass his neighbor or drag land when whites never bring car, build house pass his neighbor, work5 to 5 , marry and born any how? Innovative sense very low. Is that how they would have developed ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 8:10am On Apr 23, 2018*. Modified: 12:21pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 5:06am On Apr 23, 2018*. Modified: 12:15pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
OtemAtum: A single war in the bible has claimed a hundred times number of life than the whole humans used for rituals in the whole of Africa. To add pepper on injury, the number of people killed by Yahweh worshippers for worshipping on sabbath day or the " daughters of Jephthah" killed in the middle east for ritual purpose eeh... our culture is a learner in short. Now i guess war was invented by Europeans and there were no wars in Africa. Or African wars didnt kill people. Who is talking about wars? I guess it was sanctimonous Africans who stopped Catholics from religious killings in this age and not the other way around. And Christian are the ones clamoring to go back to barbaric cultures of yesteryears. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 4:52am On Apr 23, 2018*. Modified: 12:13pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: ATR is barbaric because all the info you think you know about it is from outside ATR lol. Majority of the info you got are from Christians themselves and our missionaries actually rewrote history to make ATR look worse than it actually was so Christianity can be given more credit
How many ATR practitioners have you sat down with to learn about their religion? I'm guessing none
Christianity is now spreading in China, you'll see history repeat itself right before your eyes if Christianity ends up the major religion in China as they would also rewrite Chinese history to make their culture and tradition look bad, Christianity would be given credit for the development and wealth of China and their culture would disappear gradually with each new generation that comes up till nobody would remember those cultures ever existed except historians.
Now I'm not going to pretend ATR is all good as it also has it's shortcomings but its definitely NOT responsible for Africa's underdevelopment as Africa would've developed at its own pace, we had a system of education before they came, we had our forms of technology and built houses (some of which are still standing today) amongst other things, we were developing slowly but surely and I'll argue the whites coming to colonise us was actually responsible for the shit we're in today as we stopped developing at our pace cuz our technology looked primitive compared to Oyinbo Radio and we gave up developing but simply consumed whatever the oyinbos developed and this made them take advantage of us in a huge way which is responsible for underdevelopment. Read about "Colonial Tax" and see why certain African countries are destined to remain poor forever It is not a matter of anyone writing anything. Even today the demands for African traditional religion is seen. And its negative consequences for those who dont meet up. So its not a matter of who wrote what but a matter of if what is written is true or not. You had your African school? Where and teaching what subjects? What certificates were being given? How was formal education possible without even a developed written language because it was even whites that helped you develop even your own language into writing? The most you heard was transfer of arts and farming skills from parents to their children or guardian and petty commerce. Abi its moonlights tales of stories about animals talking or discussions with the dead you want to brag about. Good luck with developing engines or inventing even a tooth pick with that better still.....Stop deluded yourself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 4:46am On Apr 23, 2018 |
superhumanist: Their religion fit in with their culture. Christianity has mixed over a thousand years with European culture. Christianity does not work with Asian and African cultures.
And let us talk about barbarism.
Here are the highlights of your christian Europe; *Witch Burnings *Slavery *Crusades aka christian terrorism *Catholic torture Their religion was not as terrible and wasn't keeping them badly underdeveloped like that of Africa. How barbaric were their religion and values compared to that of Africa? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 4:28am On Apr 23, 2018 |
vaxx: YOU have to go personal when your so called rebuttal is finished. lol omo oyinbo. i wish i can educate you but you have to pretend and drop your ego for a moment, buhari is a Muslim not traditionalist. spot the difference.( even not all Muslim will agree with him) female genital mutilation is still practiced in Europe not African things only, enlightenment is still going on. with the bull shilt you split over the internet space, it does not sound as if you understand the subject you are attacking, let me educate you a a little. When Rome was conquered by so-called barbarians in 479AD, Europe descended into the dark ages. It was an age characterized by white illiteracy, disease, ignorance and superstition. For over 1,000 years, this was the situation of the white European, he was devolved and he was ruled by darkskinned men. However, he arose from the cesspit in 1500AD in what is called the ''Renaissance''
We African people will have get there by now, we were experiencing our own renaissance by then before the arrival of the European, your master stop us along the line. we will get there if only we begin to drop the copy ideology nonsense and adopt the pretty ones, even they themselves are reshaping in it ,how much us. Go back to your dark ages alone and wait donkey years for your own renaissance, black man. Now just crawl back to the cave and bushes/mud houses half naked and re-invent the wheel while you are at it as the entire world embraces and learn from each other since your vain ego cant allow you join civilization. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 4:21am On Apr 23, 2018*. Modified: 4:43am On Apr 23, 2018 |
AreaFada2: First off, World War 1 caused over 18 million deaths and about 23 million wounded. World war 2 (1939-1945) resulted in 80 million deaths (including actual war deaths & from diseases/famine caused by war directly). We have English civil war, Spanish civil war, Napoleonic wars. Never mind Juli Now also consider Korea War, America fighting Vietnam war & Russian war in Afghanistan in 1980s.
Even in the Bible Abraham went to war. A share of the war booty was given to Melchizedek. Some MoGs even erroneously use it to justify early tithe payment. Gideon fought a war, King Saul did too. The Bible is replete with Israel's wars with it's neighbors. Even modern Israel has been fighting wars almost since 1948. Aside pre-Constantine Rome & Korea, all the aforementioned nations either followed Abraham's God or were Christians.
Only ignorance of history, brainwash or sheer inability to think for yourself would make you call African gods blood-thirsty in comparison. WW2 dead alone equals roughly the Population of Egypt today. In 1939, the world had only 2.3 billion people and Egypt had 16 million.
So which blood thirsty god do you mean?
At the time we were making our metal works centuries ago, Europeans had no bicycles, no trains, no cars, no electricity. The most they had were boats without engines that relied on wind sail to travel. So you just ranted without understanding my post you were quoting. Killing twins was not common across Africa. In Benin twins were never killed. In Yorubaland twins were also normal. It is one of those stories that Europeans used rare occurrences in isolated tribes to vilify and demonize Africans.
At the same time I was referring to, centuries ago, scholars/scientists who dared to say that the earth round & the earth was not centre of the universe were sentenced to be burnt at stake by the churches in Europe. That sounds like bloodthirsty to anyone not brainwashed.
You obviously have no knowledge of church atrocities over time. The same church in Europe declared that Africans have no souls and therefore not different from animals. The church used it to justify trans-Atlantic slave trade.
Please educate yourself before coming to argue in public fora. Read widely. There is more out there to learn than religious zealotry.
350 YEARS ago, a Dutch explorer described Benin City as been as magnificent as Rotterdam in Holland. With the Oba's palaces being as great as the Exchange in Amsterdam. A massive building of Dutch tycoons where Stock Exchange business first started in the world. It's quite unfortunate that your little African brain dont know the difference between war deaths and that just to appease blood thirsty gods. Thesame churches that killed stopped and corrected themselves unlike African culture where even till this day on their own they will keep burying a king with seven heads if not stopped. Or were you the who who fought to end slavery? Thats the difference. African culture is retrogressively static on its own unless improved by outsiders and even that will be met with some folks like you who prefer to keep behaving and thinking like your great great grand fathers even in a 100 hundred years to come. Strip yourself off all external positive influence and go back to hunting and visiting the nearest evil forest for your clan. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 9:02pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: Strawman and red herring
No one is saying we shouldn't accept empirical things from them, no civilisation is an island so even the Europeans accepted certain development ideas from "Pagan Countries", USA for instance import most of their consumables from China, a pagan/atheist nation but they didn't accept their Shintoism, Taoisim and Confucianism
India accepted a lot of empirical things and developments ideas from the British but rejected their Jesus and Yahweh
China accepted Communist ideas from Germans but rejected most of the other things
If a Christian goes to Japan with a technology that can teleport food from the northern Nigeria to southern Nigeria with no loss in nutrients and quality, the Japanese would accept the technology, study it and improve upon it while rejecting the Christianity totally They did not because their religion was not as terrible and wasn't keeping them badly underdeveloped like that of Africa. How barbaric were their religion and values compared to that of Africa? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 8:44pm On Apr 22, 2018*. Modified: 9:08pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: Boko Haram and Islam was never the culture of the north, those beliefs replaced their culture in its entirety that almost all the people in the north have no idea what their own history is As a true African and loather of whites just boycott white innovation and stick to African things for 3 months. From toothbrush, cars, no internet, no phone, mud houses, clay utensil, no written language, no electricity etc lets see your life. Walk the talk before asking us to join your retrogressive ways. Which inventions Black Africans do for the world in Africa without white to be making noise people way use their culture and orientation go moon never talk. This is why Africa is so backward so much ego on top of nothing. na igbo ukwu you dey mention for metallurgy against people wey produce rockets. Imagine if na black men produce all these things whites produce by now every body for done deaf from African noise. Whites are there thinking of the next big thing to invent blacks dey here they reminisce on the gone yesteryears when the could sacrifice their fellow blacks to their bloody gods or use seven heads bury one so called village head based on custom. Asians keep there head down learn things from whites, steal the ones dey no fit learn normally. Africans dey de boost on top of igbo ukwu. Who igbo ukwu epp? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 8:38pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
vaxx: lol, have you seen your kind of self, when ghana empire was busy thriving with gold and salt, acquiring wealth and developing the living standard of their people, when oyo empire was giving chances for women to take lead in commerce, efunsetun aniwura ,iyaloja and co. madam tinubu of old lagos state known as eko employed over 400 men in her clothing industry, A fit the erropean saw and feel amazed. women were participating both in commerce and politics. Europe the so called citadel of democracy give women the permission to vote not until late 20th century. AN India professor once said if you want to know how civilized society is , ask for the role of woman.. You want to enter women empowerment now abi? When did women empowerments become a big deal in Africa? Not a few case here and there? How did you manage to be so deluded? Even your president, like a real African man, said women belong to the kitchen and the other room in this 21st century in the world stage echoing the thoughts, orientation and culture of Africans . Whites still they beg Africans in this century to train the girl child and stop female genital mutilation and you are here blabbing dust. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 8:10pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
superhumanist: And what did the Asians learn from the Whites?
1. Keep your culture and your traditional religion but be ready to make small adjustments
2. Produce your own goods and services as much as you can
3. Copy from others only when it is beneficial.
Regarding Number one, the Asians (Indians, Japanese, Chinese) all rejected christianity of the whites for their own religions- hinduism, buddhism, Taosim, Shintoism.
Asians are still very traditional, they just incorporated a few updates to their culture.
So, please, rethink your position Most of the technological achievement of Asians were learnt or stolen from whites if you dont know. America specifically, directly or indirectly helped Japan, South Korea and China become what they are today economically and technologically. Google it if you dont know. Since you love African culture so much and dont like whites go to the north and join bokoharam because what you are advocating is a mini form of bokoharam. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 8:05pm On Apr 22, 2018*. Modified: 8:31pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
vaxx: have you seen a laid back culture? or have you seen cuilture that remain stagnant? even European were once primitive and backward. old women with suspect-able character that was yet to be understand as menopause were labelled as witch and they were tortured to death by stoning or by hanging. Yes i have seen and its African culture. So you consider killing of witches to be bad but defend a culture condoning the killing of twins, human sacrifices, burial of certain people with head of others, going to evil forest for God knows what Etc. I guess there is nothing demonic about all that in your African sense. But then European culture was dynamic enough that they stopped killing of "witches" but because that of Africa was retrogressive, it took whites to come and stop the nonsense they were doing now you are still stupid enough to advocate fir such inhumane culture to return as a true African cultural idiot who abhors dynamism. Hypocrite why not leave cars and live in mud houses like your ancestors? The killing of real witches was as a result of Europeans having a dynamic orientation which tried to cleanse the land of evil diabolic forces of witchcraft ( which is still part of the African culture you so love) so that they can fully embrace Christianity and the benefits therein. Asian cultures were they as barbaric and inhumane as African culture? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 7:01pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
vaxx: This is not true, any evidence? let me tolerate you for a momment Your culture is so angelic it was condoning the killing of twins, human sacrifices, burial of certain people with head of others, going to evil forest for God knows what Etc. I guess there is nothing demonic about all that in your African sense. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 6:41pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
vaxx: No culture is laid back. evolution is constant. The African culture was based on strictly adhering to traditional pattern of behavior and any deviation was highly and easily punishable at the whims of chief and chief priest. Nothing dynamic/no room for dynamism about that. Even now you are advocating for Africans to lay back to their old ways, the ways of their ancestors what tge hell is dynamic about that? Asians and the rest of the world learnt from whites and whites learnt from others including even Africans and evolved but black man in his egotistic un innovative culture cant easily appreciate something better (if its not from his own great grand fathers) to embrace and improve. Open mind makes for better judgement but the African orientation operates on a closed mind ideology as questions are not entertained nor empirical proves highly sought after. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 6:21pm On Apr 22, 2018*. Modified: 6:57pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
AreaFada2: I do not know which lack of innovation you mean. Without Western universities to teach chemistry or metallurgy Benin, Owo, Ife, NOK culture, Igbo Ukwu and others were making excellent metal works comparable to those made in the West.
We developed religious beliefs that acknowledged Oghene-Osa, Eledumare, Chukwu as supreme God. We had no Biblical old testament to copy from.
We developed both Republican and monarchical systems of govt independently. We had our own lunar calendar. All developed before Oyinbo came. African culture was always dynamic. Not static.
In fact our innovation only stopped when Oyinbo came. We became "copiers" of other people's culture. Europeans on one hand, Arabs on the other.
Your submission has no historical or factual basis to support it. Self-loathing is one thing. Fact is another. How does your igbo ukwu compare to people who were already producing airplanes in metallurgy? You use NOK culture dey compare with people who were producing machines and exploring space with technology. Such is the ego induced delusional arrogant ignorance of the typical African that has made him unable to learn and develop. In how many years will you have been able to invent great things whites already had or establish mechanical farming ? How did your recognition of chukwu etc help you stop human sacrifices and killing of twins etc. Upon all you know it was white men who help to develop the lexicon of your language into written language capable of enabling widespread teaching and learning. My Amadioha needs your brainless skull and testicles to appease him, please for the love of African culture, donate. The lack of innovation i mean is that imagine someone in Africa coming out then saying he wants to develop something that will go to the moon. He would have been regarded as a mad idiot by everyone in the village. In fact, the chief priests would have sacrificed him for desecrating the land if he went ahead with his idea. What is an African brain and culture then and to some extent now fixated on if not to build mud house, farm, marry plenty, born man and follow his blood thirsty gods and traditions? And loathe or even antagonize anyone who deviates from that culture. Were is the innovative orientation in that? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 3:35pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
vaxx: first of all, the period the Christianity marketer known as (missionary) fought the fight with africans was our primitive period when superstition was the order of the day, yet this period is characterized by growth and Renaissance., even if the so call Christianity marketer did not come, we will have easily reach enlightenment on our own. yet the so call church of Christ today are still embroidered with superstition,let me honor with some of them that sill practiced today, but we pagan has decided to be tolerant about it instead of fighting it. ( superstition 1)During a Christian service a wafer is turned into the body of ‘God’/Jesus and this Archbishop believes he is eating the body of Jesus!! To the objective observer that is 'cannibalism' – a Christian ritual based on Pagan beliefs. this can be found mostly among the Catholics and Anglican. with few Pentecostal.(superstition 2)Wine is turned into the ‘blood of God/Jesus’ – and this Christian thinks he is drinking the blood of Jesus/God during the service, also it mostly common among the Catholics.(superstition 3) Pouring water over your head in Baptism removes ‘original sin’ (Information from the other-side informs us that is absolute nonsense!)this cut across every church. (superstition 4) You confess your ‘sins’ ( which is taken from a Roman pre-Christian era ritual) to a priest or independently. ALL your ‘sins will forever be forgiven’. Information from the other side tells us that’s absolute nonsense because no one can modify the Law of Cause and Effect. this cut across all churches.(superstition 5) even if you are like Hitler and manage to say you are very sorry for your sins before you die, you will go to heaven! all this cut across all church. this are just some few. you can see in this case African paganism needs to spread his gospel but we decide to remain tolerance to allow peace to reign. YOU SEE HOW DARK CHRISTIANITY RELIGION IS? AND PLEASE GIVE ME THE CONFIRMATION DETAILS OF ANY SHRINE STILL USING HUMAN AS SACRIFICE. I WILL TAKE IT UP MY SELF I PROMISE. Every culture was not destined to achieve thesame result. Not one that hated innovation . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Poju Oyemade: "How Culture Is Destroying Christianity In Africa" by princfred(m): 3:31pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
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