Its usually the guy chopping money.

What else can they offer if not sex?

sirhamilton:
Humans have a natural inherent tendency to self sabotage. It's only a question of how? and when?

Deep truth....especially when all is well wuth them.

Martinez39:
Keep deceiving yourself. After insinuating that we (feminists and mgtow) are acting like we don't need each other, you turn around and change words. Most men on nairaland are not toxic or misogynistic. I can't take you seriously if you go about throwing the labels misogynist and toxic masculinity on any man that says what you don't like. That's childish and don't be silly. Are most men on nairaland looking forward to do away with women's rights? NO! Are most men on nairaland advocating rape and violence against women? NO!

These are parts of your many rights. I also had it in mind that you women have your freedom of speech and expression and you people are free to lead any life you want as long as you are not breaking the law. That's liberation.

Are these sanctioned by the law? Are the police forces complacent on reported issues of female genital mutilation? Why didn't acknowledge where I said that certain parts, a very small minority, of Nigeria are still oppressing women in some way? If you feminists care about these things, what are you people doing about it? All you guys do is to cry victim and quarrel with innocent men like Ubunja, astroG, myself and others as if this will solve issues facing disparaged and subjugated women.

Besides, any widow can exercise her right to not be subjected to the cruel rituals many customs demand of widows. Just as men endure depravity in marriage, women do too. However, just like men, they are have the right to leave the marriage. So they are indeed liberated. As for divorcees, you are exaggerating when you say they are bullied and shamed. Divorcees still have their rights and that suffices. How people view divorcees is up to them and you can't control that. It doesn't change the fact that divorcees have their rights.

You problem is that, in addition to having your rights, you feel that liberation is not complete if people don't view you the way you want. Man up and don't be childish. It doesn't matter what others think or say of you. Once you have your rights then you are liberated. It's left for you to exercise them.

You said that if patriarchy didn't take place, feminism wouldn't have risen. You also admitted that feminism arose initially as a movement of equal rights and equal opportunities for women. If patriarchy wasn't misogynistic, why the need for a movement of equal rights and opportunities? You used the word "patriarchy" and I was trying to point out that misogyny, not patriarchy, was the problem. You, just like your fellow feminists, see patriarchy as misogynistic.

You see why I said you should not be silly. A fool speaks, with great confidence, on issues they know nothing about. If you couldn't do a simple research and you think MGTOW men are playing victim then I rest my case.

Ah! Here you are conflating patriarchy with misogyny despite denying that you didn't do so. Not only that, you think it is a sin — a sin of the past and present. Somehow, men of today are guilty because it's a sin of the present, right? You women are spoilt and do not know what it's like to live in a misogynistic society. The overwhelming majority of men of today are fully welcoming of gender equality in rights and opportunities.

Don't be silly. There are good and bad feminists just as there are good and bad Christians. Just as there are good and bad Muslims, there are good and bad feminists. Just as there are Catholics and Pentecostals, there are classical and contemporary feminists. There is a reason why feminism is considered in waves (eg. First, second, third wave feminism etc.). This is because the aim and image of the feminist movement changes with generation. As at now, toxic women are the face and champions of the feminist movement and as long as this remains feminism, today, will be viewed in it's contemporary sense.

From your arguments, it's clear to me that you are no different from your contemporary counterparts even though you try to hide it.

Go and sit down jare. No one is telling you how to live your life and we men couldn't care less. However, the feminist views, just like all ideas, and aims are open to discussion and criticism. Criticism of feminism doesn't mean we are telling you how to live your life. I never said feministst are oppressing men but they do support unfair treatment of men when it suits them. The actual enforcers, oppressors, and enablers of their somewhat misandric tendencies in legal and social life are the simps.


I am done with this discussion.

You make soo much sense but dont expect much from people with low/poor sense of logic.

Worthless emotional drivel as always. No counter of the points for which men insult women. How does it make sense that just because they have sisters and mothers so they shouldnt point out ugly realities about the mental bent of most women namely: selfishly greedy and overly entitled combined with poor sense of responsibility towards men? So the women who bleat about men here should just stop because they have fathers even in cases where their points are legitimate? What an illogicality.

Why are women soo low on logic and just beat about senselessly often? The monthly loss of blood to the brain i guess.

Men especially the African ones cheat because most of their women are almost useless to them using them as a (beast of burden) beyond the bed so they don't even know the difference between a wife and the side chick.

If not that I saw the havoc this oath shit can do, my first love almost lured me into it.

Thank God she is free.

Her brain is updating.

Sandra8:


Time is a good teacher dear, worry not you will catch up with time love

An advice fit for your shallow convulated brain.

Sandra8:
After all has been said and done, men take pride in telling a woman, "you won't marry like this"- if you support feminism or women's right.
Truth be told that is a last resort by men to bend you to do their bidding against your common sense.
This is a cheap form of bullying, tactics kids employ on each other and not for adults. If you are old enough to date as a man, and you still use this tactics to silence your fellow woman you should be ashamed. Bullying is a crime under United Nations, in fact “Being protected from bullying is a fundamental human right,” said Marta Santos Pais , Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Violence against Children UN. That been said sensible guys will toll accordingly.

Times change and we must change with the times, women's movement, feminism etc will not seize but grow from strength to strength daily, weekly, monthly and yearly. As hard a pill as this is for men to swallow, they must certainly still swallow it. Many men here will eventually marry feminists in one form or the other with time. You can't stop the TIMES, you can only DENY it.

The power dynamics in relationships have long swayed to the females side than to mens side. Some ladies may not yet realize this but it's true.
Men make it look as if it's easy to get into a new relationship or even find a bride these days unlike women. Men spends weeks, months even years wooing their crush to agree to their love proposal. Time is even more valuable than money because once spent cannot be recovered unlike money. Men not only spend time in this pursuit they also spend loads of money(they tag this as investment in hopes it will pay off later on)

Now ladies imagine the dissapointment he must feel when you still turn him down despite all these. It's very painful to fathom.

You must also realize that men see ladies as trophies to be won and displayed to the admiration of others, that is their fellow guys.
Of cause we are more than trophies, we are human beings but just to buttress my point a man who finds a woman he desires that agrees to marry him feels blessed cause many men tried but failed to win you (their treasured trophy).

The point is men are as vulnerable in relationships as women but they never like to highlight that point (but majority of romance post on nairaland will confirm my view) , truth be told even more vulnerable because they do most of the hard work in relationships, women are mostly the beneficiaries of relationship.

Lastly relationship status of either male or female should never be a yard stick to judge or discriminate against anyone. Marriage just like any personal pursuit (higher education etc) in life is a personal matter and everyone should be entitled to their choice.

Cc
Funmmyastic
Blackivy29
Guest007
Fountainofyouth
Seun

Firstly, only a self imposed retard will interpret being told the natural potential consequence of her attitude as bullying to the extend of invoking UN.
Secondly, the next generation of ladies will likely learn to flee from your toxic irresponsible feminism once they observe the consequence on you and your kind.
Thirdly, it is men without money who are likely going to be lonely even in marriage than single men who have enough dough and know where to seek for companionship.

Lastly wailing on men to go hustle while the ladies focus on making budgets on the result of the man's hustle simple tells how selfishly greedy and out of touch with conscience you are and deserves to be treated as a the bitch you are.

So my friend you have it all convulated.

Duggedised12:
why are you being difficult, just give me your papa number i am sure he will be interested, comon don't be like that,i wasnt interested when you made the offer ,but now i am genuinely interested in your father,help a sister biko .

I' m here and you are asking for my Papa 's number instead of for you to upgrade something so I can apply in peace. Infact I have revex.

Duggedised12:
nope, just stating a fact ,you learnt it from your parents hence the reason you think other people are like them. Anyway, as i nor come see husband,you offered me your village people before,oya bring your papa, i don ready now o. Lol

My Papa is not interested in a woman that will tell him to be hustling so the budget will be solely on him as if her education was for fancy. If you were a village illiterate then maybe he for understand with you.

If not for one small girl confusing me here and you not providing a glimpse early enough I for like apply since my village people don vex lose interest due to no glimpse.
But I wish you the best Shah that's after you upgrade that achiac relationship brain box of yours

Duggedised12:
lol ,now that it has been established that your father is a goat and your mother is a greedy hypergamic stingy recalcitrant dummy, make i just kuku marry your goatish father .how you see am ,e go make sense o,lol

Ofcourse being out of points you can only start repeating my words that fully captures and represent your essence which is exactly why they are stuck in your little brain.

Duggedised12:
i was but i doubt you were but if you were,just know you are a typical case of the apple doesn't fall far from the tree cos your father is a goat.And let me add that i also suckled on the breast of my mother too unlike the greedy hypergamic stingy recalcitrant dummy mother of yours who refused to give you ordinary breast milk lol.


Errm but you know i have more sense than all the females in your lineage both on your mother and on your fathers side combined sha *coughs*

Mumu rant as usual.
Abeg go and wail about not finding your cash-cow of a goatish husband or Dangote in another thread fir when you are ready for a man you will get one if it's not too late for you then.
Your village people really tie your head well.

Duggedised12:
lol, you wont even make it to episode 5, that is for sure. All the females in your family are the greedy hypergamic stingy recalcitrant dummies.lol

If you were raised by a father perhaps you for get small sense.

Duggedised12:
lol. You wont even be this pained if you have the money, my Brother go huslte o dangote not get this kind mentality. Go hustle make money wey another person wan spend nor dey pain you for internet.

Its not a game i play,i am not of your kind. whatever battle field you have drawn in that little head of yours it starts and ends with your kind and your kind only.

This 19th century you keep talking about,i am sure if i ask you anything you know about how the people lived then you will not have any single idea. Lol

You keep mentioning Dangote. I tell you even if Dangote comes into your life and you go about talking like he was born to be your cash cow I bet he will do his thing with you and flee maybe like the others.

It even makes me know your case is beyond repair you need overhauling. Keep waiting for Dangote greedy hypergamic, stingy recalcitrant dummy we know where such orientation landed many like you. Episode 20 of your rant is where we will jam.

And if you don't have a clue how 19th century relationship were please don't project your ignorance on me. Now you little bitches are empowered but still looking forward to being leeches. What irresponsible idiots.

Duggedised12:
lol, pray for yourself first ,you need it more,little fella. You might not make it to see the thread, just saying ,after all a badbelle like you is supposed to commit suicide.

Bad belle how and I'm giving you all these tips which your mother failed to - that girls who becomes wives don't go about talking/bragging budgets solely on the mans dime from the onset even if the man is Dangote. It's like you lack a trick bag upstairs or something and I'm here trying to teach you to have one and all see me as is a badbelle deserving of suicide. Now I'm pained.

Duggedised12:
Stop fooling around or maybe even google to update your 0.2 brain.

after you right?

But sincerely I for like you more if only you had improved relationship sense. How can a reasonable person like be so daft when it comes to relationship? I don't blame you academic work reduces exposure to other axlects of life and it looks you are the hot brain type who play by textbook rules.

One important lesson for you - Even if you are looking for a goat, you don't make it so obvious. You come in as angelic helpmate willing to undertake responsibilities then from their you start unleashing the follow come 19th century orientation once you don balance well. Many of the women you see married, ( I can bet you are more academically sound than most of them) thats how they played and grabbed their men by the balls before the men knew whatsup.
Now with this tip, go into the world and play better and grab you man before the year expires my little beloved. How I hate to feel your self inflicted pain.

Duggedised12:
lol,you are so predictable. Well whether it lasts or not ,i am sure that should not be your problem. You this life eh, it revolves and it might just last longer than yours if your ever have any.But i will not boast and predict cos i dont own the universe.like you said ,many have gone ,and you might just be next.

How am I predictable?
It shouldn't be my problem if only you won't come here ranting about it and I have to go all over to explain that your 19th century orientation is the problem. It will be like I wasted my energy on you for nothing. Well, let's pray you find your goat and marry first before wondering how long the goatishness of who you find will last.

Duggedised12:
lol, if you were sensible you will know that with advancement in technology ,there is nothing like menopause. But then, till then, dont worry ,i will mention you when it happens ,lol

OK I understand you better.
So at menopause age you will now finay settle with an elder (my village elders comes to mind) with your technology abi.
Or you will pay heavily for a young man to manage you thereby the budget will then be solely on you instead of now when a little evolution will make all the difference?

What exactly are you planning for menopause. You should have old us that's where your looking forward to so we know your case is settled.

Duggedised12:
your mother is the baby mama, and your father is a dead beat. i am sure that is why you have mummy issues,i am sure you didnt suckle from your mothers breast ,hence the reason you seem to have this deep rooted hate for women. But i am sure you need to help yourself first before you extend your leprosy riddled hand to another person.

And let me say this for the last time , and bookmark this comment, when i get married, i will mention you, please do well to jump off a bridge or if a bridge is not in your location, slit your throat, cos that will is the fate of badbelle people like you.

Lol.
Bleating about as usual instead of answering those question that can help your case.
You mean when you get married to a goat or after you evolve courtesy the hard lessons I'm inculcating into you now?

Abeg marry so you won't litter romance land with rants of your self inflicted singlehood based on 19th century orientation towards relationship.

Hey one other thing - It's one thing to have a wedding and another to remain married. Any goat can track another goat down for sometime but how long will it last? Many have gone.

Duggedised12:
lol, pains? I am in great awe at your stupidity,thats all . sorry, you wish you were the goat ,cos you nor reach sef. I don't need to project anything to you.lol your comments are there for people to see.I am not the one running around romance section barking like a rabied dog, you are. I am sure if you were dangote it wont bother you.lol but then, you are not ,so my brother ,hustle o make you nor dey wait for your wife before you pay house rent.

Chai that part you said I wish I'm the goat really pained me aswe because that's is just wrong on different levels. E.g I will rather fu'k sense into you and dump you for your village people if the sense no gree enterr than be your goat.

It's great you and your kind have noticed my candid comments on romance land and they are direct and hot enough and kicked reality into una dumb brains as the aim was always to help those of you looking for goats to evolve before it's too late. Now, you won't say nobody exposed you to sense before menopause. So you will blame your follow come doggedness on stupidity.

Evolve make you no dey wait for goat of burden to make budget on his head before you marry because menopause may nto give you a second chance to have sense.

Duggedised12:
Even a fool is wise in his own eyes. You do not have the trait of an emotionally intelligent person at all.just so you know,no wonder na only romance section be your crawling space. . I don't have a problem not being evolved as far its to a demented sadist like you ,i am good. Now crawl back to romance section battle field and stop fighting yourself here.

How you live and own that first sentence.
I'm suspecting that your village people tied your evolution making you resent any advice that can help your case or on a second thought, just carry come. Lastly are you a product of baby mama or raised by single mother cause I'm currently noticing a trend with such people and the orientation towards relationship/marriage very similar to yours?

With the hate in your heart how long can a man last with you and no surprise at all at your near menopause singlehood as surely it naturally comes with that at attitude.

Since your case is quite interesting, I will like to know if the men come and take off almost as soon or they flew on sighting you?

You I'm trying to appreciate the issue at hand so a good solution can be derived all for your own good not bleat about or rant away like you do with your emotions which won't help your case.

Duggedised12:
Hate you? Omo forget o, i don't have time for that i only checked once and saw you were a grand patron of the knights for gender war crusade, and had a better understanding of why you were such a sadistic little demon,your foot print preceeds you, .
Na you even make me know wetin dem dey call red pill for this forum,lol but una get time o, e nor dey tire you?day in day out, I am sure they will soon give you three star general lol.

Sorry ,but you dont even have love for yourself ,you are a sad little fella who thinks venting your hatred for women will heal your gloomy soul.lol.
Go sort your inner battles first before you talk about love . Your soul is restless,it needs peace first before anything else.

Wahala don baff you even wear you boxers join na im make you dey jump from thread to thread for romance section at your age,you nor dey use eye see where opportunity dey to bash women,you cant help it , its your hobby,that is how you unwind .Brother wey mumu

Lol
Long epistle for my head this morning.
Someone is in sifia pains and bent on projecting her condition and misdoing on me.
I just hope las las the pain will correct your idiotic sense of looking for a goat (cos that's what may settle for your type) of burden to make budget on his head since your education and earning is useless to society.

So they went buhari on her.

Obodo999:


With this your mentality. I can see why you will remain single.

Exactly wetin I tell her in colourful words but she can't evolve to understand so misinterpretes as bad wish.

biggy26:

It's well! Put your real pic, no matter what someone must like you. Even cripple dey marry!

Exactly what I've being tacitly trying to get her to do to no avail. She just wants to rant, take no redemptive step even when adviced and remain the same maybe so she can rant another day.

Even if she isn't so confident of her self a visit to picture studio can bring out the best in her looks.

Good luck trying to steer her in the right direction the naive stiff stubbornness of some of these "educated" women can be out of this world to their own detriment.

Duggedised12:
i see you are still on this glimpse thing, well there is a very rare picture of me , you are very privileged to have it ,now go grab your Vaseline and jerk off!

I'm not in severe pains by this only in severe pity for your village people.

Duggedised12:
sometimes what you see is just how it is ,that guy is a mannerless oaf and am sorry but go through his comments, he is as miserable as they come, he jumps from thread to thread looking for where to bash women . i made my rant threads and went about my business , but you see that one, he is so angry and frustrated that bashing women is the only thing he fills his day with. So my dear such a person and i can never be .lol .

This landslide misrepresentation shows how much you hate me for the beautiful truths I brought you.
Have you not seen me applauding, on numerous instances, white ladies of their African counterparts who are responsible, not strictly hypergamic recalcitrant and entitled with stinginess?
The other 4 fingers pointing at you since you project what you do on me.
Anyways, my love for you is bigger than your hate for me. So, wahala follow you..... . In Davido's voice.

funmisticqueen:
There is no sense in what missghosted writes at all

There was small sense to the ageing factor of men affecting their choice for women in one of her post though its not as dramatic as she painted it.

Rekhina:
She will gain respect and we will pay her for her time well spent maybe N100k ,
it seems blackivy29 is afraid of missghosted she chickened out


And wat did ubonja gained in his hullabaloo ?

If there is some sense in what MissGhosted writes its seen and appreciated but men on there needs doesn't look like one of it.

Rekhina:
When the G.O.A.T will write her piece all to bring men to their kneels kwakwakwa

Wetin she go gain if she even achieves that aim by half.?