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Jeromejnr:
What is this one saying?

YOU ARE BLIND TO UNDERSTAND GRACE!

Why? Because the VEIL of moses, hasn't left your eyes.

1cor 3:15;"But even up to this day, when moses(law of right living) is read; a VEIL is upon their hearts."

mubarakopeyemi:
The Bible says he is servant of God!

He is God. Whatever that would make him a son of God was the fact that he came on flesh to carry out a perfect work of redemption.

OLAADEGBU:
14. Sin:
Jesus never sinned. (1 Pet. 2:22).
Muhammad was a sinner. (Quran 40:55, 48:1-2).

A very stupid and deranged sinner for that matter!

The ever ignorant malvis, can you just shut up? Compare Moses to Jesus in the same manner you compared Muhammad (pbuh) to Jesus, is that too much too ask. "Moses Isaac are a type of Christ", is that what I asked you? How does that post even make sense. Ever blind, ever ignorant!

First of all to start with.

Moses died and passed away, but Jesus died but defeated death, by raising up from the dead BY HIMSELF.

Jesus, raised lazaraus by himself, 4 DAY after lazarus BURIAL.

He is lord!

This is what the ENTIRE muslims and their god, put together can never have the power to do.

bilalfarid:
OP u dnt just copy somthing from another website and paste here on NL for discussion, even my 15 year old Lil brother would give a satisfying answer to wat ur so called MATT Slick holds unto as d reason y jesus is gr8ter dan Muhammad (saw).
magnitude of miracles can no be used as a standard to judge which prophet is greater. The bible even mentioned other miracles by other prophets which where gr8ter than that of Jesus, examples below:
Jesus (ﷺ) fed thousands with a few fish and loaves of bread

Elisha fed a hundred people with twenty barley loaves and a few ears of corn (2 Kings 4:44); granted a widow such an abundant flow of oil from a jar that she was able to pay off her debts, save her sons from slavery, and live on the profits (2 Kings 4:1-7); and gave increase to a handful of flour and spot of oil such that he, a widow and her son had enough to eat for many days, after which "The bin of flour was not used up, nor did the jar of oil run dry". (1 Kings 17:10-16).

B. Jesus (ﷺ) healed the lepers

Elisha healed Naaman (2 Kings 5:7-14); for that matter, the disciples were bidden to such service in Matthew 10:8.

C. Jesus (ﷺ) cured a blind man

Elisha not only struck his enemies blind, but restored vision to the blind through prayer (2 Kings 6:17-20).

D. Jesus (ﷺ) raised the dead

Moses put life into a dead stick and transmuted it from the plant kingdom to the animal kingdom by making it into a serpent (Exodus 7:10)

Elisha raised two children from the dead (1 Kings 17:22; 2 Kings 4:34)

Elisha's bones brought a man back to life merely by coming into contact with the corpse (2 Kings 13:21)

The disciples were bidden to raise the dead (Matthew 10:

E. Jesus (ﷺ) walked on water

Moses (ﷺ) parted the sea.

F. Jesus (ﷺ) cast out devils

So did his disciples (Matthew 10: and the sons of the Pharisees (Matthew 12:27; Luke 11:19).
So OP disregard matt slick's write ups. If magnitude of miracles determine a prophets gr8tnes the jesus won't be head of when they talk of miracles.
NOTE: according to the bible. dis raises another uestion of the bible inaccuracy.

The reason why he is superior interms of miracles is because he raised Lazarus from the dead, 4 days after lazarus died.

And he himself, died and on the third day of his death, he rose again, BY HIMSELF. This is the greatest of all!

No other prophet can do this!

And beside, when we christians prayer with his name, radical miracles takes place. This is what all muslims and their god, put together can NEVER have the power to do!

tosinjay:
Note, i didn't mention you so let it all alone, i have answers for you but those I've said haven't been welcomed by you with understanding of the word so forget it, there is no point. Because you can get all Biblical messages but still keep talking about one being accursed due to a certain verse you read. The question is do you even know the word of God at all, or you read with your own understanding. It's the Lord who give understanding of the word. Your responses never changed from that Scripture you use, while seeing all the Scriptures i gave you choose to ignore like they don't exist but what you think. Search the Scriptures, compare Scripture with Scriptures prayerfully with a heart ready to receive from God and not otherwise as you do. Thanks. Please no more mentions.

Oh, I am really sorry for you!

I am trying to unveil to you the word first, before explaining those verses you are ignorant of, but the veil of right living(moses) is TOO MUCH on your eyes.

2cor 3;:15;"Even up to this day, when MOSES(works of the law) is read, the vail is upon their heart"

So sorry for you!

thecultivateur:
"Take heed that no MAN deceive you!
That was the first warning that Master Jesus gave to his followers when they asked Him of what shall be the sign of His coming again.

Those words of Jesus always sent shivers to my spine each time I read them. This shows that no human being can be trusted in this age except the true Jesus

Yes, of course!

But the op is already deceiving people by making them to think that righteousness of God is right living(works).

One of the worst heresy on earth!

Oyinprince:
Lol, the way Atheist sef bombard this thread. I almost don forget initial comment wey I wan make.
>>

Powerful message, I used to think Satan has got some people's souls before. Now I know God owns all of them , even the ranting suggests atheists and Satanists

Jesus tasted ETERNAL DEATH, COMPRESSED IN 3 DAYS, thereby, paying for EVERY SOUL, no matter how bad the soul is.

He paid all!

Don't allow that Amberon to deceive you, because he redeemed all!!!

Gombs:
Promise101, great truths.... Wow!

... But, cut a slack with the harsh words, and stop sounding like a bully. Thank you again for putting in in clearer terms.

Though, I am sorry for the way I sounded. But, I had to shout on her, because she sounds so heretic and also lacks the knowledge of the biblical sound doctrine.

OLAADEGBU:
Parting shot.

How to say "I don't know," and still sound intelligent:

1. What is the purpose of man's existence?

"We don't know at the moment, but science will find out one day".

2. What was in the beginning?

"We don't know at the moment, but science will find out one day".

3. What happens after death?

"We don't know at the moment, but science will find out one day".

4. Why is there male and female in 1.4 million different kinds of animals, fish, birds, and insects?

"We don't know at the moment, but science will find out one day".

5. Why does every animal (except for a few snails) bring forth after its own kind?

"We don't know at the moment, but science will find out one day".

Note how Scriptures speaks to the blind ignorance of the ungodly, and how they have given themselves to a dulled conscience and sexual uncleanness:

"Their moral understanding is darkened and their reasoning is beclouded. [They are] alienated (estranged, self-banished) from the life of God [with no share in it; this is] because of the ignorance (the want of knowledge and perception, the wilful blindness) that is deep-seated in them, due to their hardness of heart [to the insensitiveness of their moral nature]. In their spiritual apathy they have become callous and past feeling and reckless and have abandoned themselves [a prey] to unbridled sensuality, eager and greedy to indulge in every form of impurity [that their depraved desires may suggest and demand]" (Ephesians 4:18-19, Amplified Bible).

You just messed these people up!!!!

Deal with them! Lol

OLAADEGBU:
God is a Spirit. For you to claim to be God you have to be uncreated. Are you uncreated?

You wouldn't have asked that!

That was raw faith working!

Molake94:
I have seen post where people say: we should not make God the Father; God the Son; And God the Holy Spirit as one

Then pls I need more Understanding on 1 john 5:7 which says

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the
Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these
three are one.

People who tell you that are people who have no knowledge of Jesus and the scriptures.

The father, Jesus(word- john 1:14) and the holyspirit are ONE.

I know that the case of trinity has been a confused case to so many people, but looking at it from all angles of the scriptures you will discover that it is very simple to understand.


Now, to start with this, you have to know, that "The father", "Son" and "The holyspirit" are CONCEPTS OF REDEMPTION. They are not different personalities, they are one person REVEALING himself in these different ways, and the ONLY purpose for revealing himself in this way is for the purpose of man's redemption.

If there was no need for redemption, there wouldn't be the MANIFESTATION of anything like Jesus or holspirit, but it doesn't mean that they started to exist at the time of their manifestation. No, they were GOD as ONE in the beginning.

Now, I will used the below example to explain to you better.

1. I am God(just an example)

2. Before I created the world, I, God was a spirit, the Jesus and the holyspirit which you know now, were also a spirit with me, with no flesh, not visible, not restricted to a place(we were everywhere). We all existed THEN AS ONE SPIRIT.

3. At the time of creation, when I said "Come let us make man in our own image." I wasn't calling different persons, because the I, Jesus and the holyspirit you know now, were ONE spirit and not a human being and beside I haven't created anybody. I was calling my ENTIRE SPIRIT IN CONCENTRATION.

4 Before I created the world I never intended to take myself out of myself, in the person of the Jesus and the holy spirit you know.

5. Finally, the reason why I had to take myself out of myself(a spirit), was because of man's redemption.

6. I created man and gave man the dominion over the earth and it's inhabitants,(I gave all to them, not having any because I wanted them to take care of it all and not me taking care of the earth) but the devil deceived them, which made them to disobey me. And through them damnation came into humanity.

7. And because of that, nobody had what it will take to deliver others from damnation, because the person has to deliver himself first, before delivering others.

8. And for the person to deliver himself he has to pay for the wages of his OWN ETERNAL SiNS FIRST, which is ETERNAL DEATH IN HELL. No way!

9. Now, I coming by myself, was the only way to help my people.

9. And because of that, I decided to take my self out of MYSELF, by making an incarnate son of myself, which you now know as the person of Jesus. See john 1:1 and 14.

10. The incarnate son of myself which I made to be born with no sexual consent, and was as well made in a SINLESS nature, was PART of me but in flesh, that was just a way to help you(mankind) by laying on my flesh the ETERNTAL SINS of the whole world of ETERNITY, and taking it's ETERNAL punishment COMPRESSED IN 3 DAYS(time). Why? Because I am an ETERNAL BEING.

11 And when the incarnate son of myself was in flesh, I was still one with that incarnate son of myself, because without him I am INCOMPLETE, because he WAS IN ME as ONE until the need of man's REDEMPTION came, which in other words means, that without the incarnate son of myself(flesh), I am powerless to save man from their eternal damnation. Because the case of redemption was a LEGAL case where JUSTICE is considered, ALL in order. And the rule for the justice is this; "MAN , THROUGH SIN(adam) LOST THE DOMINION, MAN WITH A SINLESS NATURE, BUT DYING FOR THE SINS OF OTHERS, RECOVERS THE DOMINION FOR ALL". I needed to come in a sinless nature so that I wouldn't be under the captivity of the devil(because I am his creator) and as such, wouldn't be any need to deliver myself first before delivering others, otherwise messes up the whole way.

12. Does it mean that I can't deliver man by any other means? No, not that, because I am the almighty.

13. I am a God of JUSTICE. And I playing injustice is a disappointment to my personality. And the only way to play Justice is to make a SINLESS man out of myself, who will take the punishment of the eternal sins of other(because I am an eternal being). Therefore, restoring the dominion to humanity, because I have been punished for anything(eternal sin) that will make their dominion to be taken away from them by the devil

14. And it worked!

15. But why do I have to go all this way to save them, disregarding my personality? Because, I really LOVE them SO MUCH, and to prove it I had to save them AT ALL COST.

16. When Jesus(my son) was about to go, he promised the holyspirit to come. And that was also me. In the book of john, I told you through my incarnate son of myself the need for the holyspirit to come, so that he can dwell with you FOREVER.



WE ARE ONE, REVEALED IN DIFFERENT DIMENSION!!!!!!

macof:
Shut up. You know nothing about witches or witchcraft


Isn't it u who said old testament is mosaic and doesn't apply to Christians? Why the sudden change of strategy?
Why do u have such disgusting double standards?

See a fool thinking foolishly. Sorry, you are an OT ignorant carnal man

FreshGreen:
THE BACKWARD CHURCH OR BACKSLIDING CHURCH?

Any church denomination that spends to build a modern church auditorium, without providing daily distributions for the needy in their church as written in Acts 4:35, such a church is a worldly church.

Any church denomination that builds schools that the poorest in the same church cannot afford is a money making church, not a disciple making church.

Any church denomination that cannot provide free Christian materials - Bibles, tracks, Christian literature, Christian movies, etc., but has money to build multi-million auditorium, such church is either a backsliding or spiritual backward church.

When a church is busy building multi-million dollars church auditorium without building people with free school, free primary health care, free library for the youth, you know the spirit working in such church? it is the spirit of distraction and worldly competition.

Beware!

But it still does not mean, that they are all heading to hell.

Goshen360:
@ Candour, weldone, teaching the word. You're a soldier of Christ.

@taiwoawoniyi,
I read you saying your father is a Redeemed pastor and you can't change because he, your father hasn't changed. That tells me all your argument is not based on sound doctrine of the changes that took place after the cross of Christ but your argument is based on wrong believe that everything written in the bible is for Christians to practice and based on your father believe and rccg teaching.

Listen bro, I was once like you, a member of rccg and almost getting towards ordination. However, all I was doing then was follow - follow. But when I sat myself down, many things were exposed to me by the Spirit. Then, I can challenge some teachings and question some practices in the body of Christ.

Scripture say. ....WHATSOEVER was written IN THE LAW was written FOR THOSE UNDER THE LAW.

Question, are you under the law or you're under the leadership of the Holy Spirit? Who are THOSE UNDER THE LAW? What are the "WHATSOEVER THINGS the law says" referring to? The Spirit don't contradict the written word. Many Christians try to spiritualize the old testament but the law is not of faith.

Learn not to follow the crowd. Stand with the Spirit and learn of him.

Even if, I didn't understand anything. One this is sure: LAW IS NOT OF FAITH!!!!!!!!

More grace on you!

ValentineMary:
Do they have pen and paper in hell? What pen did he use was in Leo Smart or Lucky pen Christians just keep on making their beliefs look more foolish and unrealistic

Yea, of course! It is a foolishness to foolish people like you!

annyplenty:
Dear PASTOR/MINISTER,

Are you preaching what the Lord, Jesus Christ, preached, which are REPENTANCE (Mathew 4:17, Luke 13:3), SALVATION (John 3:3-5, John 14:6), KINGDOM OF GOD (Mathew 6:33) WARNING ABOUT HELL (Luke 16:19-31), FEAR OF GOD (Mathew 10:28, Luke 12:4-5), [u[RIGHTEOUSNESS[/u] (Mathew 5:20), HOLINESS (Mathew 5:8, 48), REBUKING OF SINS (John 8:11), READINESS FOR RAPTURE (Mathew 25:1-12)? These are the same messages preached by GOD’S prophets of old, John The Baptist, And The Apostles.

OR

Are you preaching another Gospel - The Gospel of Prosperity, The Gospel of Worldliness, Motivation Speaking, Business Methods, Leading The Congregation to the enemy, And so on (Galatians 1:6-9)? JESUS CHRIST, God’s Prophets of old, John The Baptist and The Apostles never preached this Gospel. It is sheer evil and wickedness to preach about Money from January to December and not teach the sheep of Christ how to make heaven?

If you belong to the second category, The LORD, GOD ALMIGHTY, is raising a controversy against you (Ezekiel 34:7-11). Time is short. JESUS is coming. Rapture is imminent. Repent quickly. Begin to feed the congregation with the True Gospel Jesus Christ preached. Prepare them for rapture in holiness and Righteousness. Save your candlestick from being removed (Revelations 2: 5).

JESUScoming

Mr. Man stop preaching heresy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Repentance in the bible means CHANGE OF MIND. But, you posts are claiming that repentance means abstinence from sin(works of the law) to be saved.

Repentance is a change of mind, that we cannot help ourselves, and that we deserve death for our ETERNAL SINLESS IMPERFECTION, and that the only way to save ourselves is to accept Jesus as our lord and personal saviour. And believe that he has taken the punishment of our entire sins.


The Gospel is not a Call to duty(work), it is not a call to change our characters(works), it is not a call to stop our wrongs and do the right(works), it is not a call to "Do this and don't do this = eternal life"(works), it is not a call to save ourselves by right living, it is a GOOD NEWS TO BE BELIEVED(faith), that Jesus has WILFULLY taken our punishment, being Judged and condemned for it once and for all, ETERNALLY, just to give us ETERNAL SALVATION.

Jeromejnr:
No 1: The ERV is a rendition and not the original writings. Just like Amplified or NLT e.t.c. it was written by a person from his/her own perspective.

No 2: Jesus said many that did miracles in His name and other awesome stuffs which only Christians can do, He will say to them "depart from me ye workers of lawlessness". Unbelievers can never work miracles in Jesus name.

No 3: Peter said " if the righteous (those washed in the blood of Christ) are scarcely saved, were will the sinners appear.

So therefore, work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Prove to God you accept His gift of grace which you couldn't earn, by keeping His ways. If you still choose to follow the other way, then you abuse grace. Then He will spit you out of His mouth like He said in Revelations.

My friend Just get out!!!!!!!!

So he was write?

So, AMP and NLT, were written by person in their own perspective, but KJV were written by Jesus himself? FOOL!!!!

Stop deceiving people by preaching works(law), preach faith(grace)

aminusanti:
All am seeing in your post is pure ignorance n lacking basic knowledge of islamic scripture I swear. I suggest u should go and study islamic scriptures properly with open mind and ask the people of knowledge for better explanation if not no explanation here ll make any sense to you.

YOU ARE A FOOL!!!!!!!

That's always your response whenever you are at the verge of being exposed.

To hell with your sex slave master!!!!!!!

fibe:
I just have a simple question as to what
type of dancing system should be allowed or
practiced in the church.
many persons dance shoki, shakiti bobo and
skelewu e.t.c. in church. is this proper or
not?.
as a church boy (Christian ) I first saw shoki
& shakiti danced by people in church before
knowing their names.
I have argued this out with alot of
persons,some say dancing to God is a thing
of the heart so it doesn't matter while
others have a contrary view.
please share your views

As a matter of fact, dancing styles used in churches shouldn't be a problem to you, if you really came to church to receive from God. Though, you may not like some dances, but don't CONDEMN people who dance it. In the presence of God, you can use any dance, so far it expresses your gratitude(the most) to God.


So, stop looking at the dancing styles, look at the CAUSE of the dance, which is all about expressing one's gratitude to God, for his grace.


Stay tight in grace!

Peritus:
Even if he was wrong for judging (which cannot be excused), that doesn't confer on you the power to judge him also to the extent of calling him an accursed and a Pharisee. If any man is overtaken in a fault, you which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. Gal 6:1
Back to the topic. I saw your effort in trying to play down the act of masturbation while likening it to lying. Yes, both are sins, but the Op asked a simple question on masturbation. He never talked about lying because he knows it's a sin: a dangerous one for that matter.
We should let the world know that masturbation is demonic. Again I say: one cannot walk in the spirit and still fulfill the lusts of flesh (Gal 5:16) because both are contrary to each other, Gal 5:17. The world (system) is where Satan is god 2 Cor 4:4, and is made manifest in the lust of the flesh. If ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law, Gal 5:18,, but they which do such things (who fulfill the lust of the flesh) shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Gal 5:21.

FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T CURSE HER!

I called her an accursed, because it is evident. I quote a bible verse to prove that. And that's the truth for now, until she stops relying on her works of the law(right living) for the righteousness of God. And I am not apologetic on that!

Yes, she is a pharisee Christians, Jesus said by there fruit we shall know them.

I think I have to show you several feature of a pharisee, which is evident in the bible stories.

1. THEY GRADE SIN; you remember when Jesus told the pharisees that they don't swear with the name of God, but they swear with the gold and vessels used in the church of God? Is that not the same sin? Yes, they are! Yet, they saw it as nothing, to swear with the vessel of God used in the temple.

You must not hear them say; "there is small and big sin". But their lives are filled with 2 opposite ways; with their mouth they say that all sins are equal, but with their attitude, they place higher hatred on SOME sins, and place less or even no hatred on some sins. Who is deceiving who? ALL SINS ARE EQUAL!!!!!

2. THEY LOVE TO LOOK RIGHTEOUS BEFORE MEN(works), BUT DON'T DESIRE TO LOOK RIGHTEOUS BEFORE GOD(faith).

3. THEY IGNORANTLY MAKE GOD A LAIR!!! Bible said that righteousness before God is faith alone, but they also SHOUT "Righteousness by faith BUT..."

There are many of them!!!!

YOU SAID THIS:"I saw your effort in trying to play down the act of masturbation while LIKENING it to lying. Yes, both are sins, but the Op asked a simple question on masturbation. He never talked about lying because he knows it's a sin: a DANGEROUS one for that matter. "

So by saying that I am likening it to lying it means that, it is not the same gravity with the sin of lying before God? What makes it not to be the gravity before God?

You see why I said that pharisee Christians grade sin? I am not calling you a pharisee, yet. But, you just acted like one!!!

I NEVER said that masturbation is not demonic or that masturbation is not a sin, I repeat, IT IS! Rather I am saying that if we see masturbation as demonic, we should at the same time see a mistaken lies as demonic as well, because it is also a sin! ALL SINS ARE EQUAL!!! There is no demonic name to each of them, they are all sin(evil)!!!


Yes, of course! Will we let the world know that masturbation is demonic and as well let them know that ALL SINS are VERY demonic too, whether we think it is "small" "big" "significant" "insignificant" "knowingly" or "knowingly" "less corrupted" or "highly corrupted".

I AGREE with you 100%, that it is a dangerous sin, but I am saying that it is NO MORE OR LESS dangerous than a mistaken lie. ALL SINS ARE EQUAL!


I am not arguing with you that one cannot walk in the spirit and fulfil the lust of the flesh. But, I am also saying that, if true then, it means that anyone who is not SINLESS PERFECT, is not walking in the spirit. Because, lust of the flesh, which can easily be committed BY HEART, without carrying it out by action, which is of the same gravity with any mistaken sin that can make a believer not to be sinless perfect.


NOW, I have to ask you; are you sinless perfect? Hopefully, NO! Are you walking in the spirit? NO!
I am not judging you, rather I am laying emphasis.

Because, it is eveident in the bible that, if we say we have no sin in us, WE MAKE GOD A LIAR. So, you denying that you are imperfect, is indirectly saying that God is a lair.

1 John 1:8-10 Amplified Bible (AMP) If we say we have no sin [refusing to admit that we are sinners], WE DELUDE OURSELVES and the truth is not in us. [His word does not live in our hearts.] 10 If we say that WE HAVE NOT SINNED [refusing to admit acts of sin], WE MAKE HIM[out to be] A LAIR [by contradicting Him] and His word is not in us.



NOW, to address your post.

First of all, the passages you quoted are not talking about, sinless perfection(works) = eternal life.


YOU SAID THIS;"Again I say: one cannot walk in the spirit and still fulfill the lusts of flesh (Gal 5:16) because both are contrary to each other, Gal 5:17. "


Walking in the spirit is NOT sinless pefection(works), and walking by the flesh is NOT sinless imperfection. If so, then it means that paul, even peter never walked by the spirit, but BY THE FLESH. Because both of them committed sin BIG TIME, especially peter!


Walking in the spirit means walking in FAITH of the finished work of christ, from which we receive ETERNAL SALVATION. Walking in the flesh, means walking in the carnality of the mind. Example; Trying to force our self to stop sinning, so that we can look righteous before God, and of course, the more we TRY, the more we FALL DEEPER. This is walking in the flesh. Because he doesn't believe that it is christ that has been made righteousness and holiness to us and not right living(works of the law).

We walk in the spirit by FAITH, and not by right living which is of the works of the law. Which makes us accursed when we rely on them to please God.

Peter, John and paul committed sin but they never walked by the flesh, rather NOT WITHSTANDING THEIR SINS they walked by the faith in the finished work of christ(spirit).

Was it not paul that said that if our righteousness comes by the works of righteousness, then christ's death is in vain? Was it not paul that said that when there is NO law, sin is not imputed on a man? Was it not paul that said that blessed is the man who the lord shall not imput HIS sins upon? Does it mean that the blessed man does not have iniquity? NO! Rather, he has, that's why he said "HIS", but it is not imputed on him. Then why, because it was imputed on Jesus. That's the gospel!!!!!


Now, when he said that we, who walk in the spirit, cannot fulfil the lust of the flesh, it was a WORD OF FAITH, and not a commandment. Which every believer should believe, BUT even if we do it, we are are condemned! Because Jesus was condemned for it, and he disarmed the devil from harming us through sin, BY ABOLISHING THE LAW. That quotation, does NOT nullify the fact that sin is not imputed on a man when there is no law.

God is not like ALLAH, lol, who will allow two opposite words to proceed out of his mouth!

Amberon:
1 Corinthians 7: 5 Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time , that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

1Corithian 7:6"But I speak this by permission and NOT OF COMMANDMENT"

*smiling*

First and foremost, list out the commandments of Jesus.

You are here again with this your heretic gospel of sinless perfection, work based salvation(lordship salvation).

But, I am here for you!

Amberon:
You're right, Satan currently holds souls of many! that is no lie! but my soul and the souls of genuine Christians belong to Jesus!

You don't belong to Jesus because you strive to be sinless perfect!!!!!!!

You belong to Jesus, because he redeemed you from eternal death in hell, by dying and going to hell in your place. So that you can NEVER have to go there!!!!

The effect of his 3 days in hell was "Eternity compressed in 3 days". And by that it covers eternity to give us eternal salvation!! Heb 5:9.

Amberon:
I thought you were an atheist.

I never said the devil has power to kill a soul. He cannot. But he can hold souls in captivity through sin. well that's just my thought tho.

YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is NO "BUT", stop making yourself available for the devil to use, by destroying the testimony of our throne of redemption and justification!!!!

Then, it means that you are under the captivity of the devil, because you are not sinless perfect!!! NO DENAIL!

It means that paul, david, abraham, peter, moses, were under the captivity of the devil! What a demonic accusation?

How can the devil hold us captive on the sin that Jesus WILFULLY took it's punishment for(paid)??

How

In fact, what does it mean that Jesus paid for our sins?

You have allowed, your favourite preacher and a Zionist who makes no relevance of Jesus, to block your senses of discovering the truth about the cross.

Stop making mockery of the cross!!!!


We are not free from captive because we don't commit sin!

Rather we are free from captive because Jesus paid the price, by dying the sinful death we deserve to die for our ETERNAL sinless imperfection and gave us the gift of NO CONDEMNATION!!!!!!!


So, next time read your bible well, before spreading lies like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amberon:
This was the same time thing I said.

Grace perverts like promise101 need this message.

Stop reposing your hope on the teachings of Pastor Joseph Prince and Pastor Chris, they won't save you. Without holiness and righteousness nobody will get into heaven.

Joseph prince and chris, has no teaching of themselves, rather they preach the cross!!!!

You called me a grace pervert?
Please, quote any scripture to prove that!

I wouldn't have talked to you, if you are not accursed!

Gal 3:10; "For all who depend on the Law [seeking justification and salvation by OBEDIENCE TO THE LAW(right living) and the observance of rituals] are under a CURSE; for it is written, “CURSED (condemned to destruction) IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, SO AS TO PRACTICE THEM.”

When you commit those your mistaken sins that makes you imperfect, are you in the spirit.

The accusations I listed above are lie, were you in the spirit when you wrote them?

What is the difference between the sin of lying which you committed and the sin of masturbation?

YOU ARE A PHARISEE!!!!


One main character of a pharisee christians is this;

PHARISEES CHRISTIANS DON'T MINGLE WITH SINFUL PEOPLE, RATHER THEY CONDEMN THEM FOR THE SAME SINLESS IMPERFECTIONS THEY ARE GUILTY OF.


The Pharisees said to Jesus disciples, "Why is your Teacher eating with sinners?" (Matthew 9:11).

Pharisees will mingle only with their own crowd of "holy" Pharisees. They criticised even Jesus for mingling with sinners. Is your holiness one that prevents you from mingling with your unconverted relatives? It is true that we can find fellowship only with God's children. But we can be friendly with all.
Jesus was known as the "Friend of sinners". If you want to be like Jesus, YOU MUST BE A FRIEND OF SINNERS.

A Pharisee will not attend the wedding reception of an unconverted relative, because he feels he will be polluted thereby. Jesus however would have gladly attended an unconverted relative's wedding reception. He went to the homes of sinners, where they probably had dancing and drinking going on.

He would share the gospel with those sinners. Contact with them didn't defile Him because His righteousness was inward. It is true that He spent most of His time with His disciples. But He spent a lot of time talking to sinful people. HOW CAN WE WIN SINNERS TO THE LORD IF WE ARE NOT FRIENDLY WITH THEM?

Amberon:
Does your father want you to lead an unsuccessful life??

Happily waiting for the thread.

*smiling*

Amberon:
Does your father want you to lead an unsuccessful life??

Happily waiting for the thread.

*smiling*

Larryfly:
You shouldnt have had sex. Why were you fasting in the first place? You were abstaining from worldly pleasures to present yourself pure to God. Your wife no dey run, just like the food, you would still have them later.. Just give those days to God.

It is not bad anyway. But, as for me, it will make me reduce in the focus I have while fasting.

analice107:
Allahh is Satan and Muhammed was his slave.

And now the sex pervert is rocking ass with his master in hell, lol.

truthmans2012:
Thank you bro.

Was Muhammad invisible ?

How can anyone call a visible Muhammad Spirit ?

And remember, jesus said that the spirit shal DWELL in us!

Can mohammed who was a peadophilic and a sex pervert human being dwell in us? Is he a spirit?

You know, the mentality of these muslims are so deranged, that's why they don't question so maby things, yet dey claim to be logical

Amberon:
Remember I told you I'm opening a special thread for you, I haven't forgotten, I've just being too busy.

Your problem is that you're a wolf in sheep clothing. You hate hearing the truth of Gods words and have taken to false doctrines its no news as the bible predicted that such yes will come.

Listen, you're nothing but a hypocrite! You practice selective blindness when it comes to the bible. You leave out all the verses taught to desist from sin and preach the perveted grace gospel just like your mentor Pastor Chris that said that masturbation and abortion are not sins.

You call them pastors, but they're the mordern day Antichrists. How can a supposed "pastor" say such when the bible outrightly condemns even lust of the heart.

I don't have your time now. I have a busy schedule.

The bible made it clear that the DEVIL is the ACCUSSER of the brethen(justified).

But, now the devil cannot appear to us to accuse us, rather he uses his HUMAN vessels. First of all, Amberon, stop allowing the devil to use you, you accused me, and I will point it out, to show that you are the devil's agent in human flesh.

Amberon, I am PATIENTLY waiting for the thread, so you can be EXPOSED the more!! All to the glory of God!

Whatever the case maybe, I will really be happy if you start the thread, because it is going to be a very explosive good means to throw than you preachers of the demonic, anti-christic, satanic and heretic gospel of WORK-BASED SALVATION(lordship salvation).


ACCUSATION 1: "You hate hearing the truth of Gods words and have taken to false doctrines "

What is the false doctrine I have been preaching? The message of the cross which gave humanity the gift of no condemnation?

ACCUSATION 2: "you're nothing but a hypocrite!"

What is the hypocrisy I have done? Fighting against you when you condemn people for the same sin you are guilty of? THIS A PROUD PROOF OF A PHARISEE!!!!!!!

ACCUSATIONn 3: "You leave out all the verses taught to desist from sin and preach the perveted grace gospel just like your mentor Pastor Chris that said that masturbation and abortion are not sins. "

I leave out the verses that taught to desist from sin? So in other words, I encourage sin? So, because I preach faith alone which the bible supported for the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD, and works which is ONLY required before men, which can make one ACCURSED when relied on to be righteous before God; so by that I encourage sin?

What gain do you have to tell people the gospel that can make them accursed before God, but will make them look righteous before men?


I preach a grace perverted gospel? Because I refused you to deceive people, and make them accursed with you by accepting your gospel of demons(work based salvation) which you are preaching?

ACCUSATION 4: "....just like your mentor Pastor Chris..."

Who told you that my mentor is pastor chris?

ACCUSATION 5: "....that said that masturbation and abortion are not sins. "

So, where you haven't proved that pastor chris is my mentor, you have indirectly concluded that I support masturbation and abortion? And that I don't consider them as sin?

Where have I ever supported sin? If yes, point out!

So when Jesus DEFENDED the woman of adulterer, he supported adultery?

When Jesus ATE with Zacheous, he supported his mischievous behaviour?

When Jesus didn't CONDEMN with woman of samaria(a prostitute), he supported prostitution?

When Jesus justified a criminal at the cross, he supported criminal acts?

When Jesus didn't condemn the woman that poured an expensive oil on his feet, Jesus supported wastage?


You are just a funny devilish accuser!

Oh, thank you Jesus!

Lord, I pray you give Amberon the grace to start out the new thread and also help her generate a CORROSIVE FALSE HEADLINE for the thread. IJN, AMEEN!!!!!!!