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Amberon:
I think you have a hypocritical nature. Whenever people say the truth, you go about giving them names like Pharisees.

Know this, the sin of sexual immorality is given particular emphasis in the bible. Yes! the bible says "flee sexual immorality, every other sin a man commits is outside his body" but this sin is sin against your body (temple of God).

If you read my earlier comment you see where I said that mastirbation has "everything to do with Satan" and nothing to do with Jesus.

The bible calling a sexual immorality, is correctn because it has to do with sexual part. Period!

I NEVER said that masturbation, has nothing to do satan or that masturbation is not a demon worship. But I am also saying that every sin you see as a mistake, which you know you often a times fall into should be viewed the way you view masturbation.

Which means, if masturbation is a demon worship to you, then subtle deception, mistaken lies, anger, self hatred, fear, doubt, should also be a demon worship to you. Because, ALL SINS ARE EQUAL!

My problem with you, is you SPECIFICALLY calling masturbation a demon worship. Who taught you that? Where did you get that name for?



Yes, of course! Right from the day I knew you, you are like the pharisee. That's why you have the mentality to give masturbation, such a specific name.

NOTE: I am on the fact that masturbation is a sin, but should be viewed the same way we view the slightest sinful mistake we commit.

BlackHummer:
Exactly. God is using him mightily.

He is a good preacher, I call him a pastor of great mysteries!


I love him, the first time I ever heard his preaching in uniben last year, I choke a little. He is awesome by the grace of God.

But, at times he uses OT types and shadows of Jesus to interpret the main substance of Jesus, and that a times makes no relevance of the grace of God shown to mankind at the cross. It is also applicable to many preachers.

Amberon11:
If you're going to say something you don't know at least do so with reasoning.

Jesus doesnt "dislike" anybody and masturbation doesn't have nothing to do with Jesus and everything to do with Satan.

I agree with you on this.

But you should know as well that every sin, especially the ones you refer to as mistakes, has to do with satan also.


NOTE: I CONDEMN masturbation, because it a sin, but to give answers to questions like this, you have to view sin without grading it, just the way God does it. In this way, you don't suppose to give the sin of masturbation the name you gave it, because if it were something like, sin of anger you will not give it such a name, rather you may consider it as a usual sin, which is injustice.

And it is a character of a pharisee christian!

Amberon11:
if only people were discerning and knew the dangers of masturbation.

What about people like you who knows that they are NOT sinless perfect, is there no danger for not being sinless perfect by right living?

You better wake up and stop giving sin ranks.

What about those little mistakes you still fall back to? Since you once said you are not sinless perfect.

Are they not demon worship? Can't they endanger your life?


I just hate seeing people with the veil of moses, on their eyes, on this NL.

Amberon11:
so you don't like him again?

Why will he like him, where he is preaching lordship salvation, dual covenant. What a heresy!!!!!

Talking things out of the scriptures!

saying that the jews don't need Jesus to make heaven. I ask again, what a heresy?

When jesus said something like "I am the only way to heaven" who was he talking to when he made that statement? Who is it not the jews? Yet, he is contradicting the bible.

Giving the jew who has kept on REJECTING christ as their saviour, praise. And supporting them, at the same talking against the arabs who don't believe in Jesus.

Saying we owe thanks to the jews, while the bible made it clear that IN CHRIST, there is NO jew, NO gentile, rather we are one called NEW CREATION.

Please, what is the difference between those arabs who don't follow Jesus and jews who are still rejecting Jesus who they murdered 2000yrs ago as their saviour and are FOLLISHLY still waiting for their saviour to come?


And I can tell you that the Jews of today are SO FILLED with pride, 100 times the way it was in the time of Jesus.

Amberon11:
Hey sister, actually Masturbation has nothing to do with Jesus. Masturbation is demon worship and doing it whether knowingly or not summons the demons and gives them legal entry into your life. Its

What a lie!!!!

There is NO sin termed as demon worship, stop lying, you anti-christ(grace) preacher with a lying tongue!

PLEASE STOP GRADING SIN AND GIVING THEM RANKS. IT IS A CHARACTER OF A HYPOCRITICAL, PHARISEE CHRISTIAN!!!!!

Everytime, you would say that masturbation is a demon worship. Of course, I agree with you 100%.

But, why don't you see subtle deceptions, gossip, hypocrisy, doubt, anger, slightest form of disobedience, greed, covetousness, selfishness, hatred, jesting(filthy) words, not honouring the gathering of the saints, not reading your bible, as demon worship and why can't these little ones give, your so-called legal entry, to the devil in to your life? Or is it only masturbation that does that?

You think that you can deceive everybody?

"You can deceive everybody SOMETIMES, you can deceive some people ALL THE TIME, but you can NEVER deceive EVERYBODY ALL THE TIME"
#foodforthought#

No wonder why you said that john hagee is you favourite preacher!

ALL SINS one commits, whether "big", "small", "deliberate", "undeliberate", "insignificant" or "significant" should be termed as DEMONIC WORSHIP!!!!


And I think by that, you will be guilty of what you are preaching, and condemning people for!!

annyplenty:
the teaching on Holiness will continue as Crucifixion of the flesh. watch out or make a request for a copy by sending a request to jesuscoming@yahoo.com or raptureglorious@gmail.com

Please, I am seeing a very serious problem with your teachings, when discerned with the scriptures.

Because, all your teaching are sounding like legalism, works of sinless perfection, right living, to obey God's law to be righteous before him, and as such they are UNSCRIPTURAL. Because it makes no relevance of the cross. Now, therefore, I just want to confront you in all due respect to know exactly what you message is.


So, first and foremost; WHAT IS RIGHTEOUSNESS?

Scholar8200:
May God grant us grace to serve Him acceptably with reverence and godly fear , enable us to follow peace with all men and holiness without which no man will see Him and give us the grace to be watchful so that we can be that Glorious church without spot or wrinkle that He wants us (and washes us in His Blood) to be, Amen.

Yea, amen too!!

God is NOT about to grant us grace to serve him, he has ALREADY granted us the grace and it happen at the cross! So, when we do anything that makes no relevance of the cross, we frustrate that grace.

GALATIANS 2:21;"What actually took place is this: I tried keeping rules and working my head off to please God, and IT DIDN'T WORK. So I QUIT being a “law man” so that I could be God’s man. Christ’s life showed me how, and enabled me to do it. I identified myself completely with him. Indeed, I have been crucified with Christ. My ego is no longer central. It is NO LONGER IMPORTANT that I appear righteous before YOU or have your good opinion, and I AM NO LONGER DRIVEN TO IMPRESS GOD. Christ lives in me. The life you see me living is not “mine,” but it is lived by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I am not going to go back on that(right living, law, works of righteousness). Is it not clear to you that to go back to that old rule-keeping, peer-pleasing religion would be an abandonment of everything personal and FREE in my relationship with God? I refuse to do that, to REPUDIATE God’s grace. If a living relationship with God could come by rule-keeping, then CHRIST DIED UNNECESSARILY.(MSG version).


And as well his grace shown to us at the cross enables us to follow peace with all men and holiness without which no man will see Him. And the holiness, which will make us see him, is not the holiness that comes through law keeping(right living), it the holiness that makes God(himself) holy, which cannot to be established but imputed on us on the BASIS OF FAITH.

Our righteousness and holiness is a person, Jesus and not the keeping of the law, which ends up making it's followers accursed.

1cor 1:30. New International Version
It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus,
who has become for us wisdom from God--that is,
our righteousness, HOLINESS and redemption.

So, when we put our trust and rely on him we become righteous and holy, not having our own righteousness which comes from "DOs and DON'Ts"
, the law.

Phil 3:9;"and may be found in Him [BELIEVING AND RELYING ON HIM], NOT HAVING any righteousness of MY OWN(dos and don'ts)derived from [MY OBEDIENCE TO] the Law(right living) and its rituals, but [possessing] that [GENUINE RIGHTEOUSNESS] which comes THROUGH FAITH IN CHRIST, the righteousness which comes FROM GOD ON THE BASIS OF FAITH.(AMP)

I agree with you on this. He has ALREADY given us the grace, at the cross, to be watchful so that we can be that Glorious church without spot or wrinkle.

We shall be without wrinkles or spot, NOT BECAUSE we were watchful(works), or because we lived rightly(works) and strived to look sinless perfect by WORKS(which we know no one is justified with).

RATHER, we shall be without wrinkles or spot, BECAUSE we believe that we have been eternally Justified by his blood, ALL our eternal sins being laid on christ and him being punished for it, in exchange for ETERNAL SALVATION(heb 5:9). And the penalty NEVER ended at the cross, he had to go to hell also, so that we won't have to go!

That's why we will continue to trust in him for our righteousness because he is the AUTHOR and the FINISHER of our FAITH.

vile:


please this is a true life story i want every one to learn from it.

i have made a terrible mistake in my life when i was 18 years old i got pregnant and aborted the baby ever since then my life has been a mess the 2 guys involved have lost their mothers and since 4 yrs till now my life has been a mess i have suffered uncontrollable i'm still suffering strange things keep happening i regret ever aborting such baby cos ryt now i'm in danger my life is ruined i want to beg every one out there pls when u pregnant pls keep d baby no matter what don't b like me i have a terrible life ever since i aborted i'm going insane i need help
also i have not slept in weeks i dont sleep at night any more i just cant sleep i nees help pls i really need help i have fasted i have prayed and i am weak i am just waiting silently for my death since ive lost hope and help from God

i need help nlders pls i also need prayers pls help me

First and foremost, what you need now is RIGHT BELIEVING which gives you a joyful life and makes you live rightly WITH NO EFFORT.

Though I condemn what you did, but I STILL SEE NO FAULT IN YOU. Believe me, YOU ARE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS. Because you did something good? No! What you did was really bad. Then why? It is very simple! You DESERVE eternal death for the wickedness you have carried out by aborting the baby, but someone decided to take the death you deserve for your eternal sins giving you ETERNAL SALVATION, and the person is Jesus.

Heb 5:9;"And being made perfect, he became the author of ETERNAL SALVATION unto all them that believe him.

You said that your terrible mistakes have ruin your life. My friend, your terrible CANNOT harm your life anymore, only if you can put your trust in the righteousness of Jesus, HIMSELF. I know that you might have heard people who say; "What you sow is what you reap". But truly, I tell you by the finished work of christ, that it is not the case in the life of a believer.


If we believers(justified) should start reaping all we sow then it means that Jesus christ wouldn't have come, because we NEVER sow anything good to merit his(God's) death on our behalf. If we should start to reap what we sow then it means, NO ONE shall be saved, because WE MUST REAP THE PUNISHMENT FOR OUR SINS WHICH IS ETERNAL DEATH, disregarding the fact that we were forgiven by his blood. If we should reap what we sow, then it means that many christian mothers who aborted when they were young, CAN NEVER HAVE PEACE or CHILDREN.


THE PUNISHMENT FOR WHAT YOU DID HAS BEEN CANCELLED IN YOUR CASE, BECAUSE JESUS TOOK THE DEATH YOU DESERVE, JUST TO PAY FOR THE PENALTY OF YOUR ETERNAL SINS ONCE AND FOR ALL TO SAVE YOU ETERNALLY!!!!

You have NO PROBLEM OR ENMITY with God and CAN NEVER HAVE, because jesus has abolished on his flesh the enmity between you and God.

Eph 2:15;having ABOLISHED IN HIS FLESH(crucified) the ENMITY, even the law of
commandments contained in ordinances; that he might create in himself of the two one NEW MAN, so
making PEACE;(ASV)


You are a new man, only if you will believe in his righteousness. A new man can never be found guilty. A unbeliever who aborted may be found guilty, but when the person puts his trust on the righteousness of christ Jesus, himself, to become a believer(righteous), he can NEVER be held guilty of the past. Because a new man has new and clean record!

If you can understand the message of the cross, then you will believe with me, that GOD IS STILL HAPPY WITH YOU.

Rom 5:8;"But God commendeth HIS LOVE(not enmity) towards us, in that, while we were YET SINNERS(criminals, lairs, murderers, abortion victims, terrorists), CHRIST DIED FOR US."

THIS IS THE GOSPEL TRUTH, THE DEVILS IN NAIRALAND WILL NEVER ALLOW YOU TO HEAR !!!


The only thing that can give you the righteousness of God is not TRYING to avoid the punishment of your sins by right living. Doing that makes you accursed(punished)!

Gal 3:10; "All those who expect the Law to save them(right living) from the punishment of sin will be punished. Because it is written, “Everyone who does not keep on doing all the things written in the Book of the Law will be punished.”(NLV)

What make you righteous before him, is BELIEVING AND RELYING ON HIM BY THE REASON OF HIS FINISHED WORK.

Phil 3:9;"and may be found in Him [BELIEVING and RELYING on Him], NOT having any righteousness of MY OWN(right living) derived from [MY OBEDIENCE TO] the Law and its rituals, but [possessing] that [GENUINE RIGHTEOUSNESS] which comes through FAITH IN CHRIST, the righteousness which comes FROM God on the BASIS OF FAITH.

The only GENUINE righteousness that can make you free from FEAR, INSANITY, SELF HATRED, DEATH, CONDEMNATION, SIN-CONSCIOUSNESS, SLEEPLESSNESS, WEAKNESS, is the righteousness of God which comes on the basis of faith alone(believing in the finished works of christ and his divinity), by TRUSTING and RELYING ON HIM for your righteousness and not relying on right living on your righteousness.

See friend, God has forgiven you! Jesus sacrificial death NEVER ended at the cross, he also went to HELL, so that YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THERE AND GET PUNISHED FOR YOUR ETERNAL SINS WHICH HE VOLUNTARILY TOOK UPON HIMSELF. And he stay there for 3 days. The 3days he was there was "Eternity COMPRESSED in three days". It covers our eternal sins!


Restitution, crying and begging for forgiveness of what you did every now and then, fasting and praying, CAN NEVER WASH your sins and it's curses AWAY. It can only make you FEEL satisfied, but doesn't wash your sins away. It will only take the BLOOD OF JESUS, that was shed on your behalf to wash it away.


Heb 9;22 And almost all things are by the law
purged with blood; and WITHOUT SHEDDING OF
BLOOD IS NO REMISSION(forgiveness) OF SIN."

When a criminal is found guilty and condemned to
death imprisonment in a law court, no matter how
the criminal ask for forgiveness, his penalty
cannot be cancelled. The ONLY way the criminal
can receive forgiveness is when someone OFFERS
HIMSELF, to take the place of the criminal and
take the penalty of his crime. In our case, we were
condemned to eternal death, NOT FOR OUR PAST
SINS, BUT FOR OUR ETERNAL SINLESS
IMPERFECTION(including abortion). Jesus came and
Took our death on himself, WILLFULLY. Now, you should know that Jesus also died for the sins of abortion victims . Any abortion victim deserves death but Jesus accepted it to be forgiven, taking our death.

Infact, I cannot over-emphasize the grace of God which has been made available to us at the CROSS.


Stay tight in FAITH and BELIEVE IN HIM for HIS righteousness

Scholar8200:
Bro, you appear passionate about this but why not let's focus on the message?



God will forgive when there is true repentance and restitution. A divorcee that remarries and repents cannot retain the 'new' spouse, that will be insincere.


Here you are judging someone you have never met!



Relax bro! Pls have you met the op in person before or you assume he has a problem with anger?



Indeed you are correct! Good news is that His Grace can make us free from them all.

You see, the op was trying to address an issue. Let's focus thereon.


Where did the op do this?


I like this. And what makes you righteous is what Jesus did! And just as a sinner had to sin because that is who he is (partaker of the fallen nature); a righteous person will walk in newness/holiness of life because that is what he is(a partaker of the Divine Nature)

Can you expatiate on the highlighted.

Amen!!! And when this Light shines into our darkened hearts, we will be enabled to,"... awake to righteousness and sin not...1 Corinth 15:34 But if we say we have the Light and walk in darkness, we lie.


The Law justifies NO ONE before God. Through Jesus Christ we are reconciled to God; We are grafted into the True Vine and the Fruits He expects must be manifest in our lives!! Without these Fruits, we need to examine ourselves if we truly are in the faith.

Ahh! My very good friend, are you back?
It has been a long timeooo!

Okay, I have to settle facts here.

What divorces really need is not OPs like this, rather the gospel of grace that can make them happy(joyful) about the finished work of Christ, and making to reconcile with no condemnation and love.

I still not condemn the fact that the divorcees should reconcile , rather I fight that even when they are divorcees, for the sake of Christ death, they still have the FREE gift of "no condemnation"(eternal life) which is on the basis of faith alone and not works, if they can rely on the righteousness of Jesus. If you say no, then it makes no sense in christ's death, which occurred in place of the ungodly (including divorcees).


First of all, I appear passionate because I know where the op is about to head people to. As the bible say;"By their fruits we shall know them. And that is to rely on their right living, trying to please God by their works of righteousness with the MOTIVE of looking righteous before God, which of works of the law, which will end up making the person accursed.

Gal 3:10;
"Anyone who tries to please God by obeying the Law (right living) is under a curse. The Scriptures say, “Everyone who doesn’t obey everything in the Law is under a curse.”(CEV)


You know, there are messages that when not given, in respect to the FREE gift of no condemnation(cross), will cause people to live their lives in fear and works, to deliver themselves from the punishment of the sins Jesus was punished for, as if they are the author and finisher of their righteousness. And that simply makes them accursed!

Phil 3:19; made it clear that the righteousness God approves, is not our own right living(righteousness), or the righteousness that come through TRYING to please God but, the righteousness of Christ, HIMSELF.


Before you talk about forgiveness, you have to understand what forgiveness really is!

First of all, why are we forgiven? How?

We are not forgiven because we ask for forgiveness, repent(change of mind) and do restitution. BUT BY HIS BLOOD! THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS(remission) OF SIN, WITHOUT SHED BLOOD.

Heb 9;22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and WITHOUT SHEDDING OF BLOOD IS NO REMISSION OF SIN."

When a criminal is found guilty and condemned to death imprisonment in a law court, no matter how the criminal ask for forgiveness, his penalty cannot be cancelled. The ONLY way the criminal can receive forgiveness is when someone OFFERS HIMSELF, to take the place of the criminal and take the penalty of his crime. In our case, we were condemned to eternal death, NOT FOR OUR PAST SINS, BUT FOR OUR ETERNAL SINLESS IMPERFECTION(including divorce). Jesus came and die in our place. Now, we should know that Jesus also died for the sins of divorce. The divorcee deserves death but Jesus accepted it to be forgiven.

Our sins are not washed away by prayer of forgiven, restitution or change of mind(repentance) but our sins were washed by his BLOOD.


Restitution, which is to restore and correct our past mistakes is NEVER A REQUIREMENT OF BEING SAVED BY HIS BLOO.


READ THIS, ABOUT SIN, RESTITUTION

It is often implied in some circles that a person who
is born again will abstain from certain types or
patterns of sin. To these people, continually
committing the same sin could be convincing
evidence that salvation is lacking in the person under
scrutiny. I certainly don't intend to condone,
encourage, or make light of sin. All sin is serious and
should be so treated. Nor do I deny that the
Christian, one who is a child of God and indwelt by
the Holy Spirit, has a new nature and capacity for
living for the Lord that unsaved people do not have. I am attempting to show the inconsistency of
promoting the idea that living faithfully for the Lord
is somehow automatic for all "true" Christians. I hope
that by listing some sins which could easily apply to
many believers the need for the Free Grace position
will become obvious.


Salvation, Restitution, and Sins of Commission

Suppose a man who worked in a job where he was
in contact with money actually embezzled some of
the money entrusted to his care. Suppose the money
wasn't missed and he was never caught. Some years
later he hears a sermon in which he is told that
continuing sin proves that a person committing such
a sin was never saved in the first place or that in
order to receive the free gift of salvation one must
turn from his sins (i.e., stop sinning). Under the
theology being discussed here, it would seem that
restitution or confession to the party from whom the
money was stolen would be necessary for the man to
be saved (or to prove he is a believer). But what if the
amount of money was relatively small, say 30 cents?
And say it occurred 40 years ago when the man as a
teenager worked at an ice cream stand? I can
imagine many who hold to this persuasion telling the
man, "Forget it, you can be saved without paying
back the 30 cents." But what if the amount were
greater, say, 30 dollars? Manymight still tell him the
same thing: "Forget it." Let's keep raising the
amount. How about 300 dollars—3,000—30,000? At
what point in this theology would the "continuing
sin" of not paying back the stolen money prevent
salvation? And who decides?


This example is no bizarre daydream. Whether it's
money or some other issue, such things are surely
common in the affairs of mankind and can't be
glossed over by those who tie works onto grace in
this way. Boldfaced lies as well as subtle deception,
grumpiness, rudeness, and gossip can all fall into
this category of "continuing sins."


How many people, because of skeletons in their
closet, of one kind or another, have been made to
think that they can't be saved until they "go back
and make it right"? And how many have "gone back"
for that reason and then thought themselves saved
because they did so? Wittingly or unwittingly this
belief does not value Christ's sacrifice as adequate to
save all those who trust in Him.


If going back and correcting past wrongs is
required to receive the free gift of salvation (or
required to prove one has salvation), then we are all
"goners." What are those people thinking about who
claim salvation for themselves and who advocate the
idea that "continuing sins" disallow or disprove
salvation? Do their consciences accuse or excuse
them? Either way, such imagined personal purity is
surely as unlikely in their case as it is in the case of
any fallen human.


Salvation, Restitution, and Sins of Omission

What about neglecting the things we ought to do—
sins of omission? This might seem similar to the
failure to correct past wrongs as discussed
previously, but I'm thinking more of Christian duties.
These could include the following: Skipping prayer or
church (Heb 10:24-25), neglecting Bible study (2 Tim
2:15), not being ready with an answer when
someone asks us about the hope that lies within us
(1 Pet 3:15), ignoring the needs of others (1 John
3:17), failing to visit the orphans and widows (Jas
1:27). The list goes on. The point is that we're all
guilty, and to deny it is folly and self deception.


CHRIST'S SACRIFICE IS SUFFICIENT FOR ALL SIN.

All sin is an affront to God's holiness, whatever
"kind" or "degree," whether "large" or "small,"
"continuing" or "non-continuing," "deliberate" or "not
deliberate." The Free Grace position does not ignore
"lesser" sins, but recognizes Christ's sacrifice as
necessary and sufficient to cancel all sin and looks to
Him for salvation
. I'm not arguing here against restitution or
correcting past sins. As believers "we must all appear
before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one
may receive the things done in the body, according
to what he has done, whether good or bad" (2 Cor
5:10). I am, however, attempting to show that such
"corrections" cannot be made requirements for
receiving, maintaining, or proving salvation.

Although, in many such circumstances, knowing
whether it is best to try to correct past wrongs or not
might be difficult, we can be sure that the Lord Jesus
in His atonement has forever nullified sin's power to
condemn the believer (Rom 5:8-11).
That the Lord Jesus gives eternal life to those who
trust in Him for it is good news (John 6:47; Acts 4:12;
Rom 10:15). Trying to get saved, stay saved, or prove
we are saved by undoing our wrongs is a hopeless
proposition.

God's grace is a wonderful motivation and
encouragement to faithful Christian living (Titus
2:11-12). It should not be used to promote sin (Rom
6:1-2) or viewed as something that automatically
infuses us with behavior that supposedly proves we
are saved. As Christians may we never forget our
desperate need of God's grace and may we never
cease to feel the relief of having received it.

highyo:
thanks ma, but the lord said, walk with me and be perfect, He knows what he needs, HOLINESS: without no one can go to heaven,
if Jesus preach more than hell than heaven, i will do it too.
If I can scare you to heaven, I will do it.
Jesus dont want anybody to perish, but to come to salvation.
In time of Lot, it was only 4
Noah was only 8
how many will be in our time?
Many have gone to hell and many are still going, whosoever keep preaching love all time, does not have love, because if you died in sins, God will be wicked at you than satan because there will be no love nor mercy again.
So let me preach his anger now, so that he will love you when you died

It won't look stupid if you can answer this questions.

Considering all you have written; are you sinless perfect? Hopefully, NO!

Then what is the difference between you and a woman that commits adultery? NOTHING, but just PRETENDS!!!

You are here, joking with the finished work of christ!

God can forgiven any sin but cannot forgive divorce? What a lie!

Everytime, you people keep on saying "God hates divorce". Of course, he does! And as well he hates those your little faults like anger. And the way he hates anger is the same way he hates divorce. Out of the self righteous, judgemental, pharisee spirit in you, you will want to defend your self that ANGER IS NOT A SIN, because the bible says "...be angry but let not your anger...."

But the spirit of HYPOCRITICAL sinless perfection in you will not like you to see verses like, Col 3:8;"8 But now ye also put off all these; ANGER, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth"


If anger is not a sin, why were we asked to put them away?


My friend though the person has been termed an adulterer by the scriptures, she is forgiven. Divorce is not an UNFORGIVABLE SINS, as you are trying to paint it. Jesus never made a certainty on what an unforgivable sin is, so stop condemning people.

THE REAL CHARACTER OF PHARISEE CHRISTIANS, IS THAT THEY GRADE SIN!!!!

Without knowing that GOD SEES DIVORCE, HOMOSEXUALITY, TERRORISM, THE SAME WAY HE SEES HYPOCRISY, ANGER, LIE, SLIGHTEST FORM OF DISOBEDIENCE.


So knowing that you are NEVER sinless perfect, HE SEES YOU THE SAME WAY HE SEES THEM.


I am not supporting divorce, but you shouldn't use that to condemn divorcees. Because, you yourself are still guilty of not being sinless perfect!

Yet, YOU WANT TO PROVE SOMEONE GUILTY WITH YOUR OWN GUILT, PRETENDING AS A SINLESS PERFECTION PERFECT.

Will you go to hell because you never sinned or divorced? NO! Because what makes you to be seen as a sinner before God is because of what adam did. Rom 5:12.


If it would take sinless perfection BY RIGHT LIVING to make heaven, then, don't be surprise to see YOURSELF and your church pastor at the front sit of hell.


And you are even sounding like "grace+law=eternal life" preachers, who go about preaching righteousness by works, and SUBJECTING PEOPLE TO CURSE.

The ONLY righteousness that can take you to heaven is righteousness of God(himself) by FAITH, which ONLY COME FROM believing in christ!

Phil 3:9;"and may be found in Him [BELIEVING AND RELYING ON HIM], NOT HAVING any righteousness OF MY OWN(self righteousness) derived from [MY OBEDIENCE TO] the Law(right living) and its rituals, but [possessing] that [GENUINE RIGHTEOUSNESS] which comes THROUGH FAITH IN CHRIST, the righteousness which comes FROM GOD on the BASIS OF FAITH" (AMP)


You have the GENUINE righteousness when you believe in christ alone. It comes on the BASIS OF FAITH alone.



But if you rely on YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS(right living- works of the law) as a means of being righteous BEFORE GOD, you will be ACCURSED BY GOD.

GALATIAN 3vs 10 in many versions.


"Anyone who tries to please God by obeying the Law (right living) is under a curse. The Scriptures say, “Everyone who doesn’t obey everything in the Law is under a curse.”(CEV)

"But people who depend on following the law(right
living) to make them right are under a curse. As the
Scriptures say, “They must do everything that is
written in the law. If they do not always obey, they
are under a curse.”(ERV)

"·But [L For] those who depend on following [L the
works of] the law to make them right(right living)
are under a curse, because the Scriptures say,
“·Anyone [All; Everyone] will be cursed who does
not ·always obey what [keep doing everything that]
is written in the Book of the Law [Deut:27:26].” (EXB)

"Everyone, however, who is involved in trying to
keep the Law’s demands(right living) falls under a
curse, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who does
not continue in all things which are written in the
book of the Law, to do them."(PHILLIPS)

"All those who expect the Law to save them(right
living) from the punishment of sin will be punished.
Because it is written, “Everyone who does not keep
on doing all the things written in the Book of the
Law will be punished.”(NLV)

"A curse is on all people who are trying to become
good by obeying the law(right living). The holy
writings say, `Everyone is cursed who does not
always obey everything that is written in the book of the law and do it.'(WE)



You better bear in mind that if you are relying on your right living(works of the law) as a means of your righteousness before God, then, YOU ARE ALREADY ACCURSED!


So, you better join the divorcees you are convicting in PERPARING your way to hell!

analice107:
Hmmmm. Interesting. Personal sentiments. Who is intolerant as far as we already know? Christians or Muslims. We shout tolerance, they shout Jihad. Oh, I love my neighbour. Come to PH and see a flood of Almajiris, they go everywhere freely. Do what they like, no restrictions, turn around and go to Kano, let's see if the same is applicable there.
BTW, who is fighting to get the other religion out? Christians? Why are your people scared? They shd just allow us be, with just words of mouth, we shall turn all their children to Christ. They are so terrified of that, that's why they can't sleep, they gather in their mosque planning evil, but the more they shed the blood of Christians, many more of children shall become Christians.

Did you hear? There was a crusade in Pakistan and 10,000 (ten thousand sons and daughters of allahh) deserted him.
Wow, that's serious work for it will take awhile for all their heads to be chopped off.

Nooooooooo, you failed it big time!

You said:"Did you hear? There was a crusade in Pakistan and 10,000 (ten thousand SON AND DAUGHTERS OF ALLAH) deserted him. "


Please, you just gave that devilish sex slave master an attribute of our father, Jesus.

Allah has sons and daughters? Nooo, he doesn't and can NEVER have one because it is already too late, ALLAH HAS SLAVES(for eternal sex)lol. No doubt!


So to give your last paragraph a better sense, you would have said:"Did you hear? There was a crusade in Pakistan and 10,000 (ten thousand SEX SLAVES of allahh, THE GREAT SEX MASTER) deserted HIS ASS, TO Bleep HIMSELF ALONE.

Sorry, if it hurts you, but we must say the truth!


GOD PUNISH THE DEVIL(allah in disguise).

Patiently waiting for any anti-grace preacher!
Come on!

damocool:
Romans 6 v 1-8...
Besides I don't think you should be concerned about whether he sins or not, you should be concerned about your own eternal destiny and not his bro. It is individual race..

The foolishness exposed in this comment beats my imagination.

It would have been better, if Jesus had no concern over the sins of the pharisees that were about to stone the woman of adulterer to death?

Jesus would have allowed them to stone her while the pharisees are not even sinless perfect.

NO MAN IS SINLESS PERFECT EVEN KUMUYI, yet these people will keep on throwing stones and judgement on other people. While they are still guilty of the same sinless perfection. And without knowing that they are already ACCURSED for relying on their works of righteousness.


GALATIAN 3vs 10 in many versions.

"Anyone who tries to please God by obeying the Law (right living) is under a curse. The Scriptures say, “Everyone who doesn’t obey everything in the Law is under a curse.”(CEV)

"But people who depend on following the law(right
living) to make them right are under a curse. As the
Scriptures say, “They must do everything that is
written in the law. If they do not always obey, they
are under a curse.”(ERV)

"·But [L For] those who depend on following [L the
works of] the law to make them right(right living)
are under a curse, because the Scriptures say,
“·Anyone [All; Everyone] will be cursed who does
not ·always obey what [keep doing everything that]
is written in the Book of the Law [Deut:27:26].” (EXB)

"Everyone, however, who is involved in trying to
keep the Law’s demands(right living) falls under a
curse, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who does
not continue in all things which are written in the
book of the Law, to do them."(PHILLIPS)

"All those who expect the Law to save them(right
living) from the punishment of sin will be punished.
Because it is written, “Everyone who does not keep
on doing all the things written in the Book of the
Law will be punished.”(NLV)

"A curse is on all people who are trying to become
good by obeying the law(right living). The holy
writings say, `Everyone is cursed who does not
always obey everything that is written in the book of the law and do it.'(WE)

buchilino:
HONESTLY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND MOST OF WAT UR TALKING ABOUT. AS CHRISTIANS WHO IS OUR EXAMPLE IN LIFE? JESUS. WHETHER U OR OTHERS LIKE IT NOT HEAVEN N HELL R REAL. THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE IN SIN DESPITE HEARING D TRUE GOSPEL EVERY DAY WILL END IN HELL. KUMUYI IS D WATCHMAN, WHO KEEPS WARNING PPLE OF D DANGERS AHEAD. IF U N OTHER CHOOSE NOT HEED THOSE WARNINGS THEN GOD WILL NOT HOLD KUMUYI N OTHER RIGHTEOUS PASTORS RESPONSIBLE. ALL THESE OTHER ONES UR TALKING ABOUT, NA U NO. THERE IS NOTHING SECULAR SYSTEM IN GODS KINGDOM. EITHER UR A BELIEVER DAT LIVES A HOLY LIFE ON EARTH OR UR A SINNER. IF UR A TRUE CHILD OF GOD U WOULDNT MAKE DIS KIND STATEMENT COS GOD SPIRIT LIVES INSIDE US. GOD'S SPIRIT DIRECT US ON HOW WE LIVE OUR DAILY LIVES, DAT IS IF U LISTEN TO IT.

What nonsense is this one talking about?

My friend, I better remind you that if you rely on your so-called holy life(works of right living) you will be ACCURSED and end in hell.


GALATIAN 3vs 10 in many versions.

"Anyone who tries to please God by obeying the Law (right living) is under a curse. The Scriptures say, “Everyone who doesn’t obey everything in the Law is under a curse.”(CEV)

"But people who depend on following the law(right
living) to make them right are under a curse. As the
Scriptures say, “They must do everything that is
written in the law. If they do not always obey, they
are under a curse.”(ERV)

"·But [L For] those who depend on following [L the
works of] the law to make them right(right living)
are under a curse, because the Scriptures say,
“·Anyone [All; Everyone] will be cursed who does
not ·always obey what [keep doing everything that]
is written in the Book of the Law [Deut:27:26].” (EXB)

"Everyone, however, who is involved in trying to
keep the Law’s demands(right living) falls under a
curse, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who does
not continue in all things which are written in the
book of the Law, to do them."(PHILLIPS)

"All those who expect the Law to save them(right
living) from the punishment of sin will be punished.
Because it is written, “Everyone who does not keep
on doing all the things written in the Book of the
Law will be punished.”(NLV)

"A curse is on all people who are trying to become
good by obeying the law(right living). The holy
writings say, `Everyone is cursed who does not
always obey everything that is written in the book of the law and do it.'(WE)

tosinjay:
Abi oo, it's just better i let the issue be, and let him alone with His God. His own God which allows sin. Imagine the way the world is, calling the true Gospel heresy and calling one who preach it an Antichrist. No wonder the bible says when the Antichrist comes he'll deceive so many, not even a thing they know about godly precepts.

Why won't you termed anti-christ, where the gospel you are preaching makes MOCKERY of the reason of our faith, righteousness and justification.

I have shown you scriptures to show you that you are under curse as said the scriptures, yet you are preaching your demonic gospel just to gain more followers to be accursed with you.


Note: I NEVER said you are cursed, but the bible. On that issue, you should attack the bible and not me.

damocool:
That's the sign of the last days.. Let her continue in her ways and keeps claiming finished work of CHRIST...

This your comment is why I term people like you as anti-christs!

So you think that faith in the finished work of christ alone cannot give one the GIFT of eternal life? You are very foolish!

If no, then it simply means you are an anti-christ and accursed already, that's what the bible says for people like you. We are not saved by your works, but ACCURSED when we rely on them for our righteousness before.


You better stop risking your life and go and study about what the grace of God really is.

Amberon:
I trust only Jesus!

But the only prophet whose prophecies are accurate is prophet TB Joshua.

But, while trusting on him(grace), you have to be living rightly(works of the law) so that you will righteous before him. Can you imagine?

damocool:
Romans 6 v 1-8...
Besides I don't think you should be concerned about whether he sins or not, you should be concerned about your own eternal destiny and not his bro. It is individual race..

YOU SOUND SOOOO FOLLISH BY THAT!

He shouldn't be concerned about whether he sins or not?

What a pretends!

You are afraid of being accused of you sinful nature, because, before God and man, you know you were not, you are not and never on this earth can you be sinless perfect. Yet, you use it to condemn people and accuse people, injecting fear in them, behaving like a pharisee and acting like moses.

And now you are saying that he shouldn't be concerned with that, but on my one as if my GOOD works of righteousness can take me to anywhere. If I rely on my right living to make heaven, I will only end up being accursed, and still not make heaven.

Friend, if you rely on your works of righteousness, you better bear in mind that you WILL NEVER make heaven but HELL, because your already accursed by that.


GALATIAN 3vs 10 in many versions.

"Anyone who tries to please God by obeying the Law(right living) is under a curse. The Scriptures say, “Everyone who doesn’t obey everything in the Law is under a curse.”(CEV)

"But people who depend on following the law(right living) to make them right are under a curse. As the Scriptures say, “They must do everything that is written in the law. If they do not always obey, they are under a curse.”(ERV)

"·But [L For] those who depend on following [L the works of] the law to make them right(right living) are under a curse, because the Scriptures say, “·Anyone [All; Everyone] will be cursed who does not ·always obey what [keep doing everything that] is written in
the Book of the Law [Deut:27:26].” (EXB)

"Everyone, however, who is involved in trying to keep the Law’s demands(right living) falls under a curse, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the Law, to do them."(PHILLIPS)

"All those who expect the Law to save them(right living) from the punishment of sin will be punished. Because it is written, “Everyone who does not keep on doing all the things written in the Book of the Law will be punished.”(NLV)

"A curse is on all people who are trying to become good by obeying the law(right living). The holy writings say, `Everyone is cursed who does not always obey everything that is written in the book of the law and do it.'(WE)

themall:
Does this mean Christians are taking Christians to law courts? Or maybe this is different.

It is so shameful in the case of this two churches especially deeper life, whose members claim to be highly righteous BY THE KEEPING OF THE LAW. Yet, the GS of the church even accompanied the court case. And that is UNLAWFUL(sin) in christianity, it is only hypocrites and pharisees hiding in sheep clothing will not discern that and know that the two churches failed it big time.


See what Jesus said about cases like this;"If someone(including your fellow christians) wants to sue you and take your tunic, LET HIM HAVE YOUR CLOAK AS WELL" (Matt. 5:40, NIV).

Jesus was indirectly saying that it is better off to give the person your property which he is fighting for or even give the person ADDITIONAL instead of going to the law court to FIGHT/DEFEND for the case.


Anybody who doesn't accept this very words of Jesus to be applied to this case, must be a hypocrite.

I know that these days no one can do it, but it will be counted as a sin to those live by laws and not by faith.

jiggaz:
Amen bro... thank you so much!!! What these Christians fighting grace don't understand is that the devil is sooo afraid of the Gospel of grace because when Christians realise who they are in Christ, the devil will be powerless in their lives and they will reign in this life. But no, the devil is sooo crafty, he came with religious spirit saying "Yes we know that we are not saved by works but Grace. But we have to keep doing good works to maintain that salvation else we lose it " . Can you imagine??!!! The devil is a master planner and why he did that was to rub Christians the Joy of Salvation that Christ purchased for us freely!!! Good works is good but it doesn't save. He has successfully put the church in bondage over many centuries but these last days, God said enough is enough!! The truth must be revealed and He started raising radical men of God who preached Grace ( the true Gospel ) boldly without fear!!! And dats why the devil is angry and he still used Christians to fight these men of God!! But the Grace Gospel is here to stay!!!!

The message of Grace + Works = Eternal Life preached here in Nigeria is nonsense cos it has nullified the finished work of Christ. Good works is good but it is not a criteria for making heaven. Salvation is a gift but they wont hear.

Just like an unbeliever does good works and still he is not righteous before God, is the same way a believer is righteous before God by faith without works.

We are the most privileged people in the whole of humanity when righteousness is imputed to the believer by faith!!! But yet so many Law Keeping Christians want to go back and live during the old testament!!! Can you imagine!!! Ignorance is a problem . loool.

"But yet so many Law Keeping Christians WANT TO GO BACK and live during the old testament!!!"

The capitalised shows that while they are trying to live rightly by obeying and GOING BACK to the law, they end up being an ADULTERER or an ADULTERESS.

YOU CAN'T BE MARRIED TO JESUS(grace) AND BE MARRIED TO MOSES(law) AT THE SAME TIME!!!!! If not so, then, they are ADULTERERS or ADULTERESS.



READ THIS BIBLE VERSES BELOW:

Rom 7 "1 Or do you not know, brothers 1—for I am
speaking to those who know the law—that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives?
2 For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage.
3 Accordingly, if she will be called an ADULTERESS if
she lives with another man while her husband is
alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that
law, and if she marries another man she is not an
adulteress.
4 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God.
5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work k in our members l to bear fruit for death.
6 But now we are released from the law, having
died to that which held us captive, so that we
serve in the m new way of n the Spirit and not in
the old way of the written code."

asuustrike2009:
I watched the lie last sunday. Since the time of. Linda till date, I stopped listening to those tapes about hell and heaven especially bashing of preachers.

ALL OF THEM ARE HERETIC, ESPECIALLY THAT LINDA ONE!


Chai! The church of God has suffered but the gate of hell shall not prevail.

All the news they have received are just unbilical, just like the one that evangelist hope gave, CHANNELING people to hell, FEAR, SIN CONCIOUSNESS and CONDEMNATION.

Kainene77:
Educated fool.

Na so e dey pain you

modelmike7:
All my body system shuddered when I only got to half of what my Lord and Saviour went through just to die for my sins.
I will not nail you to the cross the second time sweet Jesus.
Thanks for dying for my sins Darling Jesus.
I LOVE YOU AND I WILL ALWAYS DO.

Please, how can one nail christ the second time?

tosinjay:
You're just the one contradicting the bible, picking one verse and only settling on it while there are other Scripture that further talks about ourselves with God. For what you're saying we're on same page, by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, this is my conviction. But you are the one then getting sermon about works pressed upon me when all i say is Biblical, not by works but in your term. Your fornication or lust would be overlooked by God when you're right in the act or haven't repented from it because of the finished work of Christ. You're making His work seem useless, His death was to make you perfect meaning you no more sin, but in your term, no matter how perversed you live God's fine with it because you believe His Son died for you.

You see how HERETIC and HYPOCRITICAL you are!

YOU SAID THIS;"His death was to make you PERFECT meaning YOU NO MORE SIN(works of right living),"

Oh, I have known where you are just coming from. That is a doctrine of DEMONS presenting itself in a sinless perfection way(by works of right living). WHAT A HERESY!!!

Wow! So you are now sinless perfect? So you sin no more? Hmm, you think you telling a kid! What a hypocrite! And that's how you go about with the demon of pretends, condemning people and subjesting them to curse.

Please, expantiate; how does the death of christ make you avoid sinless perfect by the way you live?

There are people who are not christians but they live rightly, is it the death of christ that makes them live rightly when they are not christians?

How does the death of christ make one to LISTEN to his conscience and do what is right?


PLEASE, IF YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTIONS WITH NO BIBILICAL PROOF, THEN I THINK YOU WILL BE TERMED A TYPICAL ANTI-CHRIST.

missjahiniekpe:
Lolz, i hope you know that hell is different from hell fire? Hell is just a place of the death... Heaven will be full of surprises... The messages of the church is not hell if you don't know. The message of the church is that Christ came, died and on the third day he rose again and he is still coming back... All through the scripture that is the message.

Don't mind those ALREADY ACCURSED ANTICHRISTS hiding in sheep clothing!

Must of them don't even read the bible, that's why they are ignorant of the message.

tosinjay:
I think you need someone who got time to getting it all out to you but i might not have all the time to type much. You are on a broad way. Please keep studying the Scripture to make sure you're right and don't loose the way, Joseph Prince and his likes are mentoring so many people to hell in our generation. To me ehn i so much like blunt messages because they help me in my walk with God. You're talking about Paul, what do you make of the message of Christ? He Himself preached Hell alot because He knows the consequences. The law is not just the law of God through Moses to all but to the jews and those who were adopted jews. Laws that affects our rights before God still stands and isn't portrayed as living by the law.

You say i contradict myself, i say you say things without basis from the Bible, the bible have standard which is compare Scripture with Scriptures but you've rather brought up verses out of context.
The law is written in our hearts as the word says but not having it in yours means you do not have the right spirit, the Spirit of God in you.
Hebrews 10:16
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

Irrespective of what you have said, saying and will say, I have revealed the scriptures to you that if you rely on your right living(works of righteousness) you will be ACCURSED, no matter what you paint it to look like to you, you will only have yourself to blame. Nobody else!


Phil 3:9;"and to have a relationship with him. This means that I DIDN'T RECEIVE GOD'S APPROVAL BY OBEYING HIS LAWS. THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE!(We receive his approval without keeping his laws) I have God’s approval THROUGH FAITH IN CHRIST. This is the approval that comes from God and is
BASED ON FAITH." (NOG translation)

paxonel:
Are you threatening me?

That's how satanic they sound!

I don't just know where they got such doctrines from, it beats my imagination. From the bible? No, then where? The devil in a sheep clothing.

Amok2:
the message of d cross is being more centered on than D Hell message in Deeper life. Go and Listen to the message that pastor kumuyi talked about hell being hotter 4 deeper life sinners. he preaches more on eternal life. but the Bible says CRUCIFY THE FLESH. it's not thru confession alone. JESUS SAID IT HIMSELF. STRIVE TO ENTER. I PRAY WE DON'T BCOME LIKE D FIVE FOOLISH VIRGINS

WHAT A SATANIC LIE!!!!

That kumuyi centers on eternal life? And still doesn't make sense of the grace and righteouness of God(Jesus)?

Phil 3:9;"and may be found in Him [BELIEVING and RELYING on Him], NOT HAVING any righteousness of my own derived from [MY OBEDIENCE TO] the Law and its rituals, but [possessing] that [genuine
righteousness] which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the BASIS OF FAITH."

And still make eternal life look like a reward for right living?Rom 6:23.

And still make people to be accursed?Gal 3:10

And still make people to be saved by grace and live by works(right living)?Gal 3:1-5

And still make people to be ignorant of the righteousness of God, but busy helping them in establishing their own righteousness which takes them to hell? Rom 10:1-3


That man is turning the gospel into something else!

paxonel:
As
The truth is he has not educate his pastors or members enough and when they make mistakes he is quick to threaten hell fire.
Do you know what it means to educate people?
Do you call school of theology or workers training education?
Pls education is far beyond all that.
You must understand that we are living in secular world and education encompasses the secular.
You will agree with me that more than 70% of deeper life church members as it also applies to other churches and even nigeria at large have no form of university education,as a result people commit more sin out of ignorance
So kumuyi should be rather sympathetic to people
Do you think God is not aware of this fact?
He is aware, thats why a created a common platform of people to be saved and not go to hell fire irrespective of their educational background and sin level . And that common platform is Christ.

I love how open minded you are!

Not all this heretical and hypocritical legalist flying around NL

tosinjay:
You Sir/Ma is very much in the dark of the true Gospel, the bible says compare Scripture with Scriptures... We don't observe the law but obey God's word. In your description now you're concerned about your believe only, that won't save you, for it is written even the demons believe and they tremble. Christ said if you love Me keep my commandments. What are His commandments? Not the law but being righteous in your dealings before men and God.

You are now contradicting yourself!
I just imagine how 2 opposite words can be coming out from one mouth. It is satanic!

You said this; "We don't observe the LAW OF GOD given through moses but we OBEY his word, which is still his laws."

Please is the Law of God, given through moses, no more GOD'S WORD. My friend you cannot separate the Laws of God from the word of God.

His laws given through moses are his words as well, so wake up and stop contradicting yourself.


First of all, are you justified because you obey God's Law(word)? No!

Are you righteous because you live rightly before him? No! Rather, living rightly before him with the motive of being righteous before him will only end up making you accursed.

Gal 3:10;"CERTAINLY, THERE IS A CURSE ON ALL
WHO RELY ON THEIR OWN EFFORTS TO LIVE
ACCORDING TO A SET OF STANDARD because
Scripture says, "Whoever doesn't obey
EVERYTHING that is written in Moses' Teachings is
cursed." (God's word translation)


Right living and obedience to God's law can NEVER justify you, so we are not to live by them, because if you live by them, you can not keep ALL of them to the taste of God, and that is what will make you accursed. That's why God seeing that we cannot keep ALL his word to his taste, which will end up making us accursed, he made christ to be the CURSE OF LAW(his word) So that whether we keep it or not, his curse will not be poured on us.

tosinjay:
I believe in the finished work of Christ, have faith solely in Him faith unto repentance not to keep on living in sin that grace may abound.

Your problem does not start when you have faith in the finished works. You problem starts when you start to stop sinning(right living) for the MOTIVE of being righteous before God.

I am not advocating sin, but the verse I quoted is in other words, saying that if you live and rely on your right living with the MOTIVE TO STAND RIGHT WITH GOD, then YOU ARE ACCURSED.

Though we are not expected to live in sin, but that IN ANY WAY does not negate the fact that when sins abounds much, grace much MORE abounds.

Rom 5:20;"Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound."