Hello All! Its been a while, good to be back with the brethren. Greetings Bro CharlyG1. This dream you had brought a very disturbing dream I had 5 months ago. Although I don't know if this is an end-time dream, its still troubling nonetheless....
First, let me say that since 2011, I knew my mother in law to be a witch. She used to appear in my dreams regularly when I was ignorant of her devices -- she'd feed me and my husband strange food, she'd put spiders in my head (yuck), and approvingly look on while strange men abused me in bed. Through the power of the Blood of Jesus I have since overcome her, amen. She rarely appears in my dreams since I fought her spiritually, in fact, I can't remember the last time I dreamt of her... until I saw your comment.
This dream was seemingly disjointed but I'll try to include as much details here. Keep in mind, I'm in America and racial tensions are reaching a tipping point. I found myself in my childhood home which happens to be located in the southern part of the US. I don't know what klansman were doing in my house, but they seemed pretty relaxed. They started getting racially agitated and I warned them that the minute they call me "nigger" there was going to be a problem. They backed down, with the exception of one, who left through the back door and returned with a firearm. Somehow, he ended up outside in the frontyard, and was soon apprehended by a bunch of people who suddenly surrounded the house and appeared with their own weapons. I wanted to view the standoff from the curtains in my living room, but was told "no" by the people outside, b/c I was this man's target. I shut the curtains as instructed and shortly heard a single gunshot -- the man had shot himself. A Black came running to his aid wanting to accompany him to the hospital. He said he lost a friend (another Black man) earlier that day to gun violence and he felt sad for this white man who was ready to kill me!
Later that evening, it was as if I had friends and family over at the house to comfort me for the ordeal that had taken place earlier in the day. It was like I knew them in the dream, even though I recognized only a few in waking life. We were no longer in my childhood home in the deep south, we were in a home very similar to my current house, but it clearly wasn't my home. There was food being served in the dream and it just happened that whenever I wanted to grab a plate, something or someone would interrupt me. I don't recall eating in the dream. A young Nigerian girl (maybe 10-12yrs) kept following me and telling her mother she wanted to be just like me and her mother should get her an outfit similar to the suit I was wearing. I was a bit embarrassed at this young girls unusual admiration for me, I wasn't the least bit familiar with her in dream or waking life, nor was my outfit necessarily appropriate for a little girl. Think of a charcoal grey skirt suit a banker would wear, just sleeveless without the accompanying jacket. Except in this dream, I wore a red cardigan sweater over the suit, but still a bit grown for a 12yr old to wear IMO.
At this point I rose to escape the constant gaze of this girl, and went upstairs and there was my MIL sitting near the bed. She turned my attention to the television and quickly left the room -- prior to this I haven't seen my mumsie in the dream for sometime. On the television I saw what looked like Dr. D.K. Olukoya (probably my favorite MOG) being chased by a big red dragon. They were both in the air flying, although Dr. Olukoya didn't have wings are anything like that. At first he seemed like he would get away and I was there cheering him on through the televion. Even he proclaimed that he finally escaped the dragon. The dragon was relentless however, and caught up with the MOG who exclaimed "uh oh he's back again". The MOG flew way up into the blue sky but was eventually caught and held by the dragon --- and I woke up. I was confused, distraught and dismayed...and immediately rebuked this dream. The devil is a liar.
Your dream of strong demons pursuing the saints in the air brought this dream to my memory. I can't help but think my MIL is somehow involved in this... why would she show me something so horrible and scurry like a rat out the room? As I type this, I'm believing this dream to be from satan just to shake my faith. I dunno, I can use as much interpretation as possible brethren. Thanks.
I greet you all in the name of Jesus. I trust that God is still doing great things in our lives. God has done great things in my life and He is still doing great things. In time, I’ll share my testimonies.
I bless Him for everyone here.
The purpose of this thread remains the same. To expose the works of darkness mainly, and to bring people into the Light of Jesus Christ. This mission will never be defeated in our lives by the grace of God. Whether on this thread or not, we should spread the gospel of Jesus to everyone around us through various means. I encourage everyone to share the word of God and share their spiritual experiences and testimonies.
This world is coming to an end, whether anyone likes it or not. The world is dying.
I remember the Lord spoke to me so many years back when I was quite younger. He asked me ‘What is significant about the year 2020’? And then He answered ‘The River Aphrah'.
I did not understand what He meant all these years. Some prophecies are so difficult to unlock because they have been reserved to be known only when their fulfillment time approaches. But at the same time, God wants us to find things out by studying His word and drawing closer to Him.
When you do not understand a dream or say a word of prophecy, search the scriptures, study and ask God. For it is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and the glory of Kings to search out that matter. Proverbs 25:2
And so after so many years of pondering, studying and searching and asking God, my spiritual understanding became opened to this prophecy. I used to think that the ‘Aphrah’ God was talking about was a physical river (Afra) on this earth in Bangladesh. But now I realized that ‘Afra’ is actually ‘Aphrah’, mentioned once in the Bible by the prophet Micah in the book of Micah 1:10.
Micah was giving a prophecy from God; talking about the house of Aphrah rolling themselves in the dust. This was an act usually done by ancient people as a sign of mourning. Aphrah itself means ‘dust’. I never saw this in the Bible. I was amazed.
Now the prophecy God gave me is in connection with God’s word in the book of Micah, a hint for me to understand the mystery behind the prophecy.
River Aphrah isn’t about a river. But River Aphrah being the significant thing to happen in the year 2020 means that in the year 2020 there will be a great mourning and death in the world.
Prophetically, River/Aphrah = Plenty or World death/mourning (and any other dreadful things that will cause great mourning and suffering in the earth). I will not go into details on this.
I do not know what would stir a dreadful event to happen in the year 2020. Maybe a war, maybe some pestilence. I do not know. It might happen in some parts of the world or even in all parts of the world. But it will be a great occurrence, one that the world has never seen before. This prophecy was given to me so many years back, say 10 years ago or more, not very certain. But it’s meaning has just been given now.
This prophecy is given so that we can be on guard. Be watchful. Be steadfast in God. Be strong in faith and realize now that this world is not our HOME.
Spend time with God. Have a daily scheduled appointment with God. We are becoming too careless with our lives, forgetting why we are in this world and where we ought to be after this world.
No one forgets to brush their teeth or have their bath in a day. But why do we forget to find time to pray to God or read our Bibles? It should be inculcated within us to spend time with God everyday. There's no time for playing around. Jesus could come at any moment, and He will come when the world least expects it. That would be in a time of great sin of course. No one would want to be left behind in this corrupt world but what are doing about it?
When you have an upcoming examination, do you not prepare and study well so that you can pass that exam in flying colours. That is the same way we ought to prepare for the coming of our Lord Jesus.
Yes, We are imperfect but the strive for perfection must continue. Philippians 3:12
If we know how to create schedules for work activities and other self activities, we should put it in our schedule to also create time for God. The world is running at a fast rate, it seems like someone just fast forwarded the time on the clock. Every day goes by so fast. Or perhaps, It is sin and so much worldly activities that has caused this to happen. We are now in the middle of the year, when the year only began yesterday.
Sin has a huge effect not only on us but on the world we live in. On the earth.
In the beginning, when Cain killed Abel, the earth opened up HER mouth to take in Abel's blood. This alone would automatically create a curse on Cain, which God later came to reiterate to Him. Cain was cursed of the earth. Genesis 4:11
When God and His two angels visited Abraham. He told Abraham that He was on His way to Sodom and Gomorrah to see if the cry from the city was really in the measure of the sin committed there. Genesis 18:20-21. Abraham began to beg God with great efforts that He should spare Sodom and Gomorrah if He found just ten righteous people in that city. Apparently, there were fewer than ten people in the city for God destroyed the city, saving only Lot and his family. #sigh. You know the rest of the story.
Creation cries out to God. Sin puts us in bad position with God. Have you ever wondered why the earth and all of creation cry out to God? Isaiah 24:5-6,
Romans 8:20-23 tells us ‘For we know that the whole of creation has been groaning and travailing in pain together as in the pains of childbirth even until now. The earth is subjected (in bondage) because of the defilement and sin of mankind.
In the beginning, there was a cleansing of the earth (the flood). In these times, there will be a filtering (the rapture).
This can happen at any time. Best to be on God’s side before this takes place.
I have decided not to allow worldly activities take out much of my time anymore. Sometimes I wonder how I became so much involved in working so hard for this world and working lesser for God. How did that even happen in the first place? Well, it’s not hard to see. It’s a strategy satan has put in place to make the world difficult to live in. So to live comfortably, one must work hard. And working hard usually tends to mean spending less time with God. So we procrastinate things when it comes to God.
Satan has filled this world up with sin, chaos, violence, worldly knowledge and I don’t care attitudes.
Almost every Kid now at say the age of 8yrs old already knows how to operate an ipad or a smart phone. But how many of those kids know where the book of John is in the Bible? How many know their bibles so well as their smart phones? What are we teaching our kids? Are we saving them or killing them?
Many adults are so regular and punctual on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat etc. If it’s not the latest DP today, it would be something else the next day. They spend so much time exposing their personal lives to the world. All for what purpose? Have you spent that much time with Jesus or preaching about Him?
God will ask these questions on that great day.
Everyone seems to be always busy. We are always busy, always in a rush, forgetting that our very existence is for God and not to be busy for this world.
I urge everyone of us to find some time in our daily lives to dedicate to God. Find time to speak to Him. He is your Father for Pete’s sake and He is the very reason you are here on earth. Pick up your bible and read it. Let it not depart from you. (Joshua 1 vs 8. It will help you and not kill you.
Sometimes we wonder why we no longer hear God speak to us. Well, you got your answer. It’s because we prefer to waste our time on baseless activities and ignore the things that concern God.
Look, when you sin you should ask God for forgiveness and repent from sin. Do not make that sin a habit and do not hold a guilty feeling in your heart for God will forgive you. But when you commit habitual sin you expose yourself to evil forces of darkness. Creation cries out against the sins of man. You will delay the blessings of God from coming to you. And not only will satan argue in God’s presence to bring you to condemnation, but you would have opened yourself to a strongman demon.
The work of the strongman is to keep you in that sin. Hence, the name strongman comes from the demon’s duty, to stand strong in a person’s life and keep them in their habitual sin no matter how they struggle to come out of that sin. Sin that makes you a worldly genius, always busy and never spending time with God or even your family. Sin of any type. God wants you out of it.
The Lord wants me to tell us at this moment as I type this that if you are homosexual here, please quit homosexuality and run fast to Him. There are s*x demons on a rampage to bring people to their knees in sin. The homosexual spirit is a terrible and subtle one and it will tear this world apart bit by bit. Desist from such sin.
Just this morning. God showed me a revelation of some people escaping from the prisons of terrible demons, (the Strongman kind of demons). These people already tried to escape several times but were caught and tortured. But this time around, God gave them grace and wisdom so they could they escape.
Escaping was very difficult because the territory of the enemy was a in a very high mountainous ground. Their enemies were gigantic (giants) in size and beastly in nature. So this time around, they gained spiritual knowledge from God and learnt how to fly, outsmarting their enemies.
On that very night, they first overcame the lesser demons in the prison rooms (killing them), and flew up high in the sky, far away, going to where the rest of the saints were awaiting them. But the strongest of the demons later realized they had escaped and flew after them in a hot pursuit.
As they approached their destination, they could see the saints on the ground waiting for them with happiness written all over their faces. The demon was still behind them. The remaining saints watched the demon in the sky chasing after one of their own (the saints on the run). So they all stood straight with drawn swords, ready to battle the demon as they touched ground.
If you are here and you do not believe in anything of the spirit realm or you don’t believe that there is a Kingdom of Heaven and a Kingdom of Darkness, then I really feel sorry for you.
No one can force you to give your life to Jesus Christ, we can only pray for you and urge you to repent and give your life to Jesus, so that like Paul you come to realize that Jesus is indeed the Saviour of this world.
God bless you. Stand in the gap for one another. May the grace of our Lord continue to be with us all. Amen.
I agree with JMG1 on your breakdown of this movie, its completely on point! I don't hear many people break down the illuminati like this, talkless of people back home, so this gives me hope We are not ignorant of the enemy's devices.... the tell-LIE-vision and all the satanic "programming" that comes from it should be viewed with heightened scrutiny and spiritual discernment. Because if you want to know what's REALLY happening in this fallen world and what's to come in the future -- watch the films they churn out of hollywood. So you can't claim ignorance, the satanists/illuminists that run the world must show you their plans openly and plainly, though its done esoterically.
I'll keep saying it: The white man juju for Hollywood strong pass de one for Nollywood ooohhh....!!! I dey tell you so.
Now when Sophie handed over the bad dream to BFG, he quickly put it in a bottle. In the bottle the dream shows an image of a wild uncontrollable fire coming out of the ground from about 5 portals. This may actually represent Hell fire. Sophie asks BFG what does that bad dream say, and BFG replies that the dream says ‘Look at what you has done, and there be no forgiveness’. Now the thing is, this statement is totally pointless. Whose dream was this? No one knows. So the message of the dream is kind of pointless, right?
But if we think hard enough, you will see that this message isn’t pointless. This message is a reminder of someone or some people’s guilty act in the past. It is said in the studies of the Book of Enoch that God made a statement like this to Enoch, for him to tell the fallen angels that they won’t be forgiven of their sins. God even showed Enoch a vision of a fiery fire coming out of the abyss just like the one shown in the bad dream BFG was holding. Also it is said that God showed one of the angels a dream saying ‘There will be no forgiveness for their sin for they fornicated with women of the earth. This may well translate as ‘Look at what you has done, and there’ll be no forgiveness’. Skip the book of Enoch, since it isn’t in the Bible right? Yeah.
Now in the Bible, the book of 2Peter 2:4 gives us a good idea. It reminds us of an incident that took place a long time ago. It says...
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment…
It is clearly seen that God never granted these fallen angel’s forgiveness. The only people ever recorded in this life that were never forgiven of their sins were the fallen angels. That dream that Sophie caught is a reminder to these demons of their costly sin. And this was the reason why BFG turned a sad face and walked out on Sophie.
You can see clearly that these dreams are not just dreams but are people’s Dreams (DESTINY). That was the destiny of the watchers of old, they became fallen angels, condemned to the eternal lake of fire.
Towards the end of the movie, Sophie asks BFG to tell her what her own dream meant (the one he caught). And BFG tells her that her dream tells a story of her future, about her having a family and children that will be successful in life and that she would see good and bad times but in the end she will remember good deeds. And then BFG and Sophie touch each other with their fingers. Now when they do this, that triangular hill is shown with the sun shining through it. It is not ordinary. This represents human and demon connection through the third eye, and the sun (illuminati/satanic wisdom) now shines through that triangle (third eye/demonic spiritual level). The type of touch between Sophie and BFG is used even in this modern times to represent mutuality or an intimate relationship or connection between two people. Only that in this movie, it is purely on satanic grounds.
It’s clearly seen how BFG gave Sophie a bad dream while in an inner chamber, and how he also gave the queen of England a bad dream too. These aren’t ordinary. This is the exact same way that demons sow bad dreams while people are asleep. The characteristics of BFG and that of a night demon is 100% same. The movie directors are only trying to paint BFG as a good demon, which in real sense is a big lie.
This is done so that humans can freely communicate with these demons and see them as helpers. This is done right now via Aliens manifestations and other manifestations to come. I’ve said it before. Satan’s ultimate weapon in these last days is to enable humans and demons to bond together via astral projection and other means which creates demon possession.
We should be careful so that we don’t engaged in fantasy thoughts, mind reading, and do not keep thinking about a certain thing for too long. When you start to day dream or fantasize about a person or a particular thing, you’re day dreaming. This carries on into astral projection without your knowledge.
In the beginning of this movie, Sophie says it is the witching hour, the time when the boogey man comes out (when demons hover around), when people go missing (indicating when people leave their bodies). And then she turns the clock to 3’oclock (3am). This is very symbolic and not done coincidentally… She even explains further that the girls and matron think it happens at 12, but she believes it happens at 3am. Christians and Occult people know this is the real time of heavy demonic activity, not really 12am. 12am is when it’s just about to start.
And when Sophie goes to her balcony she opens her window, looks up and see night birds flying, flying in triangular shapes (the birds are seen again flying in this way because it’s to indicate a satanic activity of the night).
And then Sophie see four men behaving in a very strange way like zombies (not like drunks). These men are demons. Demons act in such ways too. One of the men mistakenly enters a small pool of water and the rest are quickly pointing out to him that he’s inside water. If you listen very well, one of them says in a muffled voice ‘ooh mehnn, this is water there, IT WILL KILL YOU’. This reminds us that the giants also hate water. There’s a connection here, indicating that these are demons and demons usually come out by 3am, just like those four men and BFG. This scene is stylishly played to make those men look like drunks, but they’re not. They represent demons, scared of water.
At the scene where BFG took Sophie to Dream country, he tells her he hears things; the walking of a ladybird insect, all the secret whisperings of the world. Now, demons have very sensitive hearings because demons are spirit beings with supernatural powers. They can hear the fast beatings of a person’s heart beat from few steps away and they have a high sense of smell. All these same things, these giants have too, including BFG. BFG has all the characteristics of a demon because BFG IS a demon.
Now fast forward…
* In another scene, Sophie asks BFG how old he is and he says he is as old as the earth. We know the Nephilim demons have been existing for a very very long time. * When the queen’s soldier’s helicopters follow BFG into his realm, their helicopters begin to malfunction. This would happen because the realm is a spiritual one and not physical. * When he was given a map to point at the exact location of Giant country, he pointed it outside the map to indicate that the realm wasn’t in the physical realm, but in the spiritual.
Now listen.. The end of this movie is shocking and revealing.
Sophie says she had a dream last night. And in the dream, she heard a beautiful humming noise, walked to her window and saw BFG leaping, she said she could see all the way to giant country (spirit realm). She gave a huge detail of all she could see at giant country (spirit realm), just from her balcony.
She says she talks to BFG and he actually hears her (demon and human communication)…. like I pointed out. And Sophie says ‘Good morning BFG’ and he hears her all the way from Giant country (spirit realm). And BFG smiles.
This means that Sophie has struck a connection with this demon that it has now become so easy for communication between her and this demon called BFG. Alas, Sophie’s 3rd eyes has now become fully open.
Sophie means ‘wisdom’= To be wise. To be wise here means to gain a higher spiritul consciousness. To have your so called third eye opened. That is the wisom that the illumiantic cult and demons teach. It’s not a mistake to choose Sophie as her name. The concept is to teach satanic wisdom to humans by means of teaching them astral projections and forming a spiritual bond with them. Sophie is a representation of the child human (ignorant humans), especially children.
This movie is clearly a demonic teaching done in a very subtle way. When we continue to accept such movies, our subconscious is being manipulated to lean into these teachings without our conscious knowledge. This movie is a target and attack on humans, especially children and it subtly teaches astral projection, trying to bond humans with demons in the future so that it becomes a normal thing in the future. As childlike as this movie looks, most people won’t believe this contains subliminal messages concerning the intentions of the kingdom of darkness.
It is satanic and I don’t advise anyone to allow their kids watch such movies. I pray God gives us His wisdom and understanding to know right from wrong and may our spiritual sensitivity to sin and things around us not wane in Jesus Name. Amen.
N:B: I have attached pictures. Notice the touch between Sophie and BFG and the 3rd eye symbol with the sun shining through, notice the Triangular shaped hill. Notice the men scared of water (not in a human way), notice the shinning tree and the bad dream that looks like a wild fire.
Hello Guys, I greet you all in the Name of Jesus. This teaching is a continuation from part 1 based on The BFG movie. This will be broken down into PART TWO and PART THREE.
Yay! I've been looking forward to the rest of your breakdown of this awfully titled movie -- BFG? Anwyhoo, good to have you back, welcome!
Now, continuing from where I stopped. PART TWO.
It is seen in this movie that these giants (demons) seem to be scared of water a lot. They dislike water a lot for no good reason at all. Could this be a reflection of a psychological trauma they now possess when God used water to wipe the earth in Noah’s days? Rings a bell.
Good point. It appears BFG and the other giants represent the nephilim giants destroyed by the flood. I will add here per the Book of Enoch, that the nephilim concocted their own strange mixture of creatures -- we call them "aliens" today. These are NOT the disembodied spirits of the nephilim, but intergalactic interdimensional demonic beings called everything from greys, to tall whites, to reptilians. They mate with humans (hence giants post-flood) and literally continue to pollute the human bloodline to this day as the watchers produced the polluted nephilim race in the days of old. This is a whole other topic
At another part, BFG takes Sophie into another spiritual dimension like a forest, when they reach the place he says ‘We is here at last, we’s in DREAM COUNTRY now’.
To be frank, DREAM COUNTRY is nothing other than ASTRAL PROJECTION (Soul Travel) into the spirit world. This is the major teaching of this movie. It wants to encourage astral projection, because it connects demons to humans and creates a bond between the two. You can see the closeness between the two throughout the movie. Satan wants demons to create a bond with humans as it is seen between Sophie and BFG. And at the end of the movie, I was expecting some real bond (covenant) to happen between Sophie and BFG because Sophie had opened herself up to this demon by Astral projection. And yeah, my expectation came to pass.
Let’s continue...
So as they approach this place, they see a big wide tree. When looking at the reflection in the water, you will see that there are so many tiny light balls floating around the tree. But when looking at the tree itself, there are no light balls. You only see the light balls by entering the water or looking at the reflection of the tree on the water. This tells us that this is a spiritual place and a portal. And we know that no human can enter the spirit realm in flesh. We should realize that Sophie is not there by flesh but by spirit, that is her spiritual body, that is by astral projection. All those light balls she was playing with are spiritual objects. The giant BFG is the one teaching Sophie this experience (Out of body experience). Such demons are called ‘spirit guards’ and an out of body experience (Soul Travel) is a form of witchcraft.
This is a demonic representation of astral travel. And an opening of the third eye.
I've always wondered this -- the pineal gland (3rd eye) is a physical part of our body -- it was fashioned by and given to us by our Creator, the Most High God. Is it bad if its opened by the Holy Spirit?
If you notice in this movie, at the home of the giants, there’s a hill that looks like a triangle. That same shape has been disguised a bit. It’s an occult symbol used to represent ‘The third eye’, which signifies a heightened level of spirituality. A demonic spirituality where a person can see and operate through the spirit world. This symbol is used in demonic games like the Ouija board.
This Ouija board game is not really a game but a method of Satan to connect demons with humans. It’s all about connecting humans with demons and astral travel is a very good method that satan is exploiting. Because Astral travel starts with just a little imagination or fantasy thoughts and day dreaming. Bad prolonged imaginations. With time it grows to become an out of body experience (Astral travel).
Continuing….
That tree is a false replica of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the garden of Eden. Satan’s tactics remains the same. He enticed man to his downfall by offering him knowledge of good and evil, the same way he wants to bring forbidden knowledge of astral projection to children to pollute the generational lineage of man. You can guess what this means when it continues to occur. It is sad that most kids are already engaged in astral projection, and they don’t even know what this means.
BFG teaching Sophie so many things is a representation of the kind of knowledge satan is trying to pass down to humans. Forbidden knowledge. Demonic knowledge. It happened in the beginning of time with Adam. It will happen again, it’s already happening. Satan wants us to learn all these. The illuminati cult worship him as the one that brings illumination(knowledge) to the world. That means he brings a higher wisdom and knowledge to the world. Ashtaroth (statue of liberty) is a representation of satan holding a torch (light that illuminates the world), because satan (lucifer) was known as the light bearer or light bringer when he was in heaven. This light has now become a demonic light (wrong wisdom and knowledge) being given to a blind world to see in their darkness, according to the illuminati and satanic cults. Most of these satanic wisdom and knowledge will be branded as technology in the future.
Yes, I would add that technology is already here in many forms. Google "Internet of Things" or just take a look at how demon technology under the guise of "convenience" is actually being used to condition and prime us for the RFID chip: http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/internet-things-dystopian-nightmare-everyone-everything-will-monitored-internet. I strongly believe that this chip is the culmination of the mark of the beast, because this chip will biologically and genetically transform humans into the image of the beast, and no longer in the image of Yahuah. This is what's been called Transhumanism, but again, that's a whole other topic....
Now, BFG catches dreams in this forest. In real sense, BFG is a demon that steals the destinies of man and woman. To steal a dream is symbolic for stealing a destiny. And funny enough, he locks these dreams in a bottle, both good and bad.
That's just horrible. I struggle with remembering much of my dreams, I pray the Most High gives me the power to remember and retain better memory of my dreams.
At one point, Sophie chases after a dream that suddenly became very dangerous. BFG sees the light ball flying so fast, and when Sophie catches it, he asks her to give it to him. BFG understands what those light balls says because he has an extreme intelligence that isn't human like in anyway...
The Trumpet sounds, the dead rises, the living gets cut off to meet Jesus IN THE AIR (He does not come down).
Um, yes he does..."For the Lord Himself will DESCEND from heaven with a shout" (1 Thess 4:16)
Afterwards the PERSON OF THE ANTICHRIST TAKES OVER the worlds government.
You've got it backwards sis. The anti-christ is already ruling the world gov't and the tribulation of the saints is already in full effect by the time the Messiah descends from heaven. Per Matt 24:29, the Messiah comes IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS
MILE TRIBULATION BEGINS. For 3 and half years. He will win many to himself using peaceful policies. The remaining 3 and half years, he declares himslef God and demands open worship.
The Jews will denounce him and cast him out of their temple
[color=#000099]lol, you mean those fake ashkenazi jews currently ruling the world? Read Gen 10:3-5 VERY carefully. Your bible should tell you that there is no such thing as an ashkenazi jew lol. The bible (KJV) calls them "gentiles" abi? They are historically known as KHAZARS (look it up). Those fake jews are in the process of building the 3rd temple to crown their king (anti-christ) b/c that is who they worship. Don't be fooled sis, just google their beliefs via their Talmud, they HATE the Messiah
The Fake Peaceful Mask will be taken off, the real beast will be known.
The beast will be revealed while the saints are still here (Rev 13:7)
The Mark of the beast becomes fully operational at this point.
Sis, according to you, if the saints are whisked away to heaven somewhere BEFORE the Mark of the Beast is fully operational, who are the saints given over to the beast in Rev 13:7? Who are the saints that will be worn out by the beast for a time, times and half a time in Dan 7:25?
The Persecution of the Jews will begin.
Persecution of those who follow the laws, statutes and commandment of YAHUAH and his son YASHUAH began from the foundations of the earth. Did Yashuah rapture Isaiah while he was being sawed in half? Or Ezekiel, Jeremiah and Steven while being stoned? How about the disciples who all died terrible deaths (save John the Revelator) as they preached the gospel to a dying world? What about the masses in the early church who faced certain death as they were being thrown to lions to entertain the wicked? Need I go into the millions throughout Africa, Arabia, Asia Minor and Europe who were hunted down, persecuted and martyred by the w/h/0/r/e of Babylon just so they could assess the Bible and read it for themselves in their own language and not in Latin, under the control/interpretation and administration of the wicked catholic church? The world goes in cycles -- there is nothing new under the sun. Yah is giving us the same narrative in Daniel, Matthew and Revelation that in the LAST DAYS the beast will persecute, "wage war" or "wear out" the saints. Let's not dismiss or overlook what thus sayeth the Lord.
At this point, the dispensation of the Jewish Nation (Grace) commences. At the close of the 3 and hald years, Jesus returns with the saints, Michael puts satan in chains for 1000 years.
After the 1000 years, satan gets freedom, he rallies around and mobilizes his hordes for war agsisnt Christ(Armageddon), no one will even fight at that war. because only with the Word, the Master will defeat him.
All is ask is that we provide scripture to support our position. I noticed out of all the people you called, only one responded with scripture (Matt 24) to support his position on the rapture. Its important we don't go by our own interpretation or other people's understanding, but rightly divide the word as to allow the scripture to interpret itself. By posting scripture and its precepts, the truth eventually emerges... I've found this method to work every time!
Anas09: Pls let me call in some brethren to help us treat this topic because what am seeing here needs proper treatment
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Indeed brother. I'm not knocking the shepherds, they sustain heavy demonic attack for that very reason. However, common sense should tell us that if the devil wanted to corrupt the church, the first place he would go would be the seminaries. Even the scriptures made it very clear in both testaments of how the priests led the Israelites into apostasy repeatedly. This is where we get adage "the blind leading the blind...".
"Disregard them! They are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matt 15:14).
I'll even go so far as to say that most Christian seminaries throughout the world are funded, and whose curriculum is designed and controlled by a small group of powerful people. Agents of the antichrist. But I digress....Thank the Most High for your pastor. He's the PERFECT example of someone who is led by the HOLY SPIRIT who is supposed to be our teacher, and not man. He is a Berean who knew the word for himself... therefore no "man" nor another "spirit" could lead him astray from the Word which he hid in his heart. My prayer is that we all do the same and study and know Yah's WORD for ourselves. And that we reject ANYTHING that does not bear witness to the WORD.
JMG1: It's really sad that most seminaries are devils coven, they lure people burning with passion for Christ and trap them into stepping into what God has called them into. I advice anyone who intend to go to a bible school to pray very well and get directions from God so as not to fall into the devils trap. There are still good, Godly seminaries out there where the plain and undiluted Word of God is taught
My pastor told us a story of how he went to bible school to be taught the Word of God and at the Long run, they started teaching something else and when he stood up with boldness to confront who was teaching them that what he was teaching isn't in the bible, the man said something sooooo contrary. He thanked God he was able to discern at that moment, He said he stood up, picked up his books and bible, left the class and that was it,he never went back.
We must be very careful in this last days and not be ignorant of satan devices. God help us all
Hello. I'm just another enthusiastic disciple of Yah and his Word, like most everybody else on this thread One thing I've learned is that the Bible interprets itself just fine. So I try to study to show myself approved, line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little. And believe on the Holy Spirit to guide me into all truth.
Believe me when I say the average seminary school is part of the "beast system".
JMG1: Hmmmm interestingly Cool. But please was all this learnt from your private study of the Word with the Holy Spirit or you went to a bible school / college where you were taught. Just an innocent question, I actually have nothing to add or remove from your post. I am just observing and learning at the same time
I learned a great deal from you as well -- thanks for clarifying that the Seven Bowls of judgment occur AFTER the resurrection/rapture of the saints. This was an area your post prompted me to study a bit more. For my own understanding, I tried to lay out the following general sequence of events:
7 Seals <---- Apocalyptic events begin to occur; 4 horsemen revealed (Rev Chp 6) <---- The 144,000 young virgin Hebrew men will emerge during this time (Rev 7:4) to encourage the saints and preach the gospel
7 Trumpets <----- 42 mo Great Tribulation/Mark of the Beast occurs towards the end of this period (Rev 13:5) <----- 42 mo ministry of the 2 witnesses during same period to (Rev 11:3,10) <----- The remnant of the seed of Israel will be nurtured in the wilderness for 3.5yrs (Rev 12:6). This remnant is the church of Smyrna, those fortunate enough to be spared during the hour of temptation (Rev 3:10). I believe this is the same remnant that will also make that miraculous second exodus described in Isaiah 11:11-16. The beast seeks to destroy these people and because he can't, he'll unleash his wrath on the saints. <---- Resurrection/Rapture of the Saints takes place at the sound of the LAST TRUMP (1 Cor 15:52)
7 Bowls of Wrath <--- (Rev Chp 16). Notice everyone receiving the Bowls of Wrath are those who took the mark. Armageddon concludes this period of the Bowls of Wrath. We will join our Messiah and the angels to exact judgement on the wicked rulers of this world (Rev 17:14), and pour out the blood of the wicked up to the horse's bridle (Rev 14:20).
I literally just did a study on this as I was typing. I had only a vague understanding on the topic of the Seals, Trumpets and Bowls, but our exchange has brought me more clarity. Feel free to provide any feedback/corrections as you see fit (with scripture of course, lol). I pray this edifies you as it has for me!
nnamdiosu: Smile. Thanks for your time and all. Really learnt a lot from you (even if I didn't totally accept sha ) I wish every Christian with different point of views could maturedly discuss and exchange point of views like that. God bless you plenty.
nnamdiosu: hi. i expressly love your style of expressing your view points(using both humour and biblical points) its nice to finally see someone who might not 100% agree with your beliefs, but is very mature to maturely point them out. let me start with them as u ordered out
1. if what you say is true...then ist thes 4: 16 which says For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. verse 17 says.... After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. now according to you, the rapture and ressurection are one right? but resurrection gotten from the dictionary means.... Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after death. And rapture means to be caught up. so how can they both mean the same thing? Paul clearly states that something (will certainly make dead bodies come out from the grave and we that alive alive will move up with speed faster than light to meet them up in the clouds.
NOW IN CASE YOU DONT KNOW, THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE TWO RESURRECTIONS. REV 20: 4 SAYS[b] Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete. This is the first resurrection.[/b] BROS THIS SIMPLY MEANS THAT SOME PEOPLE WHO DID NOT COLLECT THE MARK WILL ATTAIN THE RESSURECTION AFTER THEY HAVE DIED. NOTE THE ...And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. NOW CONCERNING THE PLACE YOU SAID OUR HEAVEN WILL BE RIGHT HERE ON EARTH, WHY THEN DID JESUS SAY TO HIS DISCIPLES THAT ..I GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU, IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE, THERE ARE MANY MANSIONS. WHO NOW WILL INHERIT THOSE MANSIONS?
2. very likely, i believe so too
3. i agree with you but are u aware that the people who took the mark will first suffer some plagues on earth before their suffering begins properly on earth?? rev 16 vrs 1 and 2 says Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, “Go, pour out the seven bowls of God’s wrath on the earth.” 2 The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly, festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. so that then means that those who are true Christians would probably have BEEN TAKEN AWAY (OR RAPTURED) SO AS NOT TO PARTAKE FROM THESE GREAT PLAGUES BECAUSE THE BIBLE ALSO SAYS THAT THESE ARE GOD'S FINAL JUDGEMENT ON THE EARTH, AFTER THIS HE WONT BE ANGRY AGAIN. so its very likely that Gods own people would have been removed so as not to partake from his anger (final) (REV 15 vrs 1)
4. true.
ps: i know this sir, but i was actually referring to revelation 12:7[b] Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.[/b] not satan's 1000 year bondage. Do u think its a future or past event. learnt something from your post esp point 2. really appreciate the sharing of knowledge. * back to ghost mode*
Hello friend. Thank you for your kind words. I'm a lady, btw. Nice to make your acquaintance.
1. Please let me clarify that the resurrection and the rapture are the same EVENT, not "one and the same" in that sense - sorry for the poor choice of words. The dead in Yashuah will rise first (resurrection). Those who are still living at that point have SURVIVED the 3.5yr tribulation/hour of temptation and will be caught up in the clouds with the resurrected saints to meet Yashuah in the air (rapture). These are two separate "quickenings" if you will, that occur almost simultaneously.
The resurrected dead and the raptured living are BOTH caught up in the air, when? At the LAST trump (1 Cor 15:52). This is the same trump heralding Yashuah's triumphant return and gathering his elect from the 4 corners of the earth or "heaven" (Matt 24:31), When is the sound of this last trump? Messiah's coming? The resurrection? The rapture? ALL OF THESE EVENTS OCCUR IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS..... (Matt 24:29-31)
So you see, the so-called "rapture" is an event that occurs AFTER the tribulation. The pre-tribulation rapture doctrine is a lie that was peddled by the w/h/0/r/e of Babylon, the Roman Catholic church. This doctrine is dangerous b/c many will faint and lose heart when they don't see the Messiah come as they were led to believe and in fear, take that mark to their own damnation
Regarding "heaven", sometimes the the earth and its atmosphere/clouds, etc is referred to as "heaven" in the scriptures. Matt 24:31 tells you the Messiah will gather his elect from "heaven". Do you think that the resurrected dead and raptured saints will be gathered from the literal 3rd heaven based on this context? Yashuah himself tells you that no man hath ascended up to heaven (John 3:13). Our mansions will be right alongside the meek who shall inherit the EARTH, and the poor in spirit of whose is the Kingdom of Heaven. The meek on Earth won't be separated from poor in spirit, all of Yah's saints shall be neighbors with grand mansions in Yah's righteous kingdom which will be established here on Earth (Jer 23:5). Zechariah 9 and 14, Micah 4... these are just a few of several scriptures that detail Yashuah's reign --not in heaven, but on earth.
2. cool
3. Great point. The mystery of the 7 seals, 7 trumpets and 7 bowls is so exciting! These judgments are all connected in that the Seventh Seal introduces the Seven Trumpets, and the Seventh Trumpet introduces the Seven Bowls. Generally, I associate the Apocalypse or 4 horsemen with the Seals. Martyrdom and the mark of the beast occurs during the Trumpets. So yes, by the time the Seven Bowls occur, Yah's people have already been previously gathered by the 7th Trump. They haven't been "raptured" off to heaven though. I can't remember where, but I vaguely recall reading scriptures involving the saints (that's us) new bodies and all, will join the heavenly host with our ha Mashiach to make war with the wicked armies gathering in the Valley of Decision.
4. Ok, I see. The war in heaven described in Rev 12 seems to relay the epic battle of old. The greatest eviction known in time and space occurred a very long time ago, I don't think it will ever happen again
Thank you CharlyG1 for this post. I'm a lurker but earlier had to come out of lurkmode to relay my gratitude for your very well-rounded post on basic dream symbols. I've been having a lot of dreams lately and I came across this page and I know the things you post are true. I've read all the comments from page 170 onwards and I enjoy the comments, fellowship and exhortation among the brethren/sistren. I especially enjoy your posts -- and I'm looking forward to the continuation of your analysis of that BFG movie. I have no intention of watching that wicked movie, but knowledge is power. Its always good to know these things and not be caught off guard in the event I happen across other movies **cough* "Storks" *cough** with similar/like occultic themes.
As it pertains to witchcraft, Nollywood ain't got NOTHING on Hollywood lol...
CharlyG1: I wanted to share a message today, but because I have not finished compiling the message, I decided to share this instead since I already made a promise to share this in the past.
Many of us have dreams and visions, but we do not actually understand what these dreams mean or symbolize. Dreams can come from God, Satan/demons, and from one’s subconscious mind. This message will be discussing on how to understand basic dreams from God.
Dreams from God can contain various symbols, people/person, places, numbers, buildings, trees, objects etc. God sends messages to his children by speaking into their spirit using all forms of symbols like the ones I just mentioned. But we need to search the scriptures and keep a close distance with God to understand how God speaks using words, symbols, numbers and all other various symbolic elements.
For it is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of Kings to search out a matter (Proverbs 25:2)
I will try to make this message as brief as possible for easy assimilation.
BASICS OF DREAM INTERPRETATION.
Job 33:15-18 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed;Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction, That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man. He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from perishing by the sword.
When God speaks to us, He speaks to each of us in different ways. For example; If God has called me to be His prophet and He starts to speak to me about this calling, He may start showing me a baby or a little girl in the dream. A baby to me will represent ‘my ministry in its starting stage' or ‘my calling’. If another person has been praying for a job and he/she sees a baby in his/her dream, it would mean ‘a new thing or an incoming blessing’ that God is about to perform in that person’s life, maybe a ‘new job’. In another person’s case it could mean ‘spiritual immaturity’. For another it could be ‘a new Christian’ and so in and so forth.
God speaks to us differently; one symbol He shows to someone in a dream may not necessarily carry the same meaning in another person’s case. That is why I do not advise people to seek the meaning to their dreams on the internet, except when talking directly to a person who has the gift of interpreting dreams. The gift of dream interpretation is needed to understand what God is saying to that person. But where the gift is not present, the dreamer should be able to interpret the dream at least partially. And that is the purpose of this topic. To share basic dream symbols.
A person with the gift of dream interpretation solely relies on the Spirit of God to understand the meaning to the dream, for it is only God that can reveal a thing and give the meaning to it. The gift of dream interpretation comes with discernment from the Holy Ghost. The interpreter can actually discern a deeper meaning to the dream message in one’s life than someone without the gift. That is why interpretation of dreams simply cannot be taught, it can only be partially explained in basics.
Satan and his agents cannot understand prophetic dreams. God makes use of hard coded symbols, languages and various things to encode a prophetic dream to the shame of the devil and for His own glory, and also to conceal His plan form Satan until an appointed time (one of the reasons Jesus spoke in parables). Sometimes, even a dream interpreter would not be able to fully interpret such dreams, and the person would need to ask God for the meaning. Satan and demons will never be able to understand prophetic dreams because they do not have the Spirit of God in them.
In my case, (not to boast) whenever I do not fully understand a hard coded prophetic dream, I simply ask God and within 5mins He makes the dream clear to me. That’s the power of God. That clearly shows that dreams and interpretation comes from God. Check the case of Daniel and joseph. Read Daniel 2 and Genesis 41:15-16.
When you have a dream, the most basic way to interpret is to break the dream down in a very simple form. For example:
Alison had a dream where she was in a car park. All of a sudden she started to run. She was running because an unknown man dressed in black was chasing her. She ran fast, tripped, got up again and continued to run as fast as her legs could carry her. She looked at her wrist watch and realized the time was exactly 7’O clock. When she grew tired of running, out of fear and not caring for her life, she decided to face this unknown man chasing after and realized that this man had no face, but she beat him so badly the man ran away. The she looked forward and saw a very bright light that shone on her and lit up the whole room. She now realized she was standing in the midst of men and women dressed up in suits and royal attires.
To break this dream down, we must pick out the important characters in this dream. 1. Alison- the dream is centred on her, if we take her out of the dream, then the dream will lose its meaning. 2. Car Park- This represents stagnation, staying in one place for too long. 3. [color=#000000]Unknown man in black[/color]- This represents evil forces/ difficulties 4. Watch (7 0’clock)- 7 is the divine number of Heaven. Meaning.. this very thing that is happening to Alison is happening according to God’s plan. It’s happening under the directive of Heaven. 5. Bright Light- Divine revelation, spiritual insight, now ‘fully aware’ 6. Room filled with royalty- Divine blessing God has preserved, Divine rest or Glory.
What this dream is saying: Alison is in a parking lot, this means that she is not going anywhere in life. Her life is being stagnated, she is not moving forward, she's just on one spot. Her spiritual life could be down; her career could be so bad etc. To make her go away from this stagnant life, God uses a problem/difficult challenge or even the devil to chase her out of that car park (stagnation) and put her on the run. Running is a spiritual exercise that will eventually stir faith in Alison. So as Alison runs, she checks her watch and realize it says 7’O clock. This means that this whole thing happening to her is happening according to God’s plan. It is heavenly supervised, even though in real life Alison may feel she’s going through a very hard time, that hard time unknown to her is actually a trial to move her to her glory.
And when Alison has become tired (angered in her spirit) of this problem chasing her, she now becomes moved (with faith) to now overcome the problem by fighting the unknown man in black (Trials, difficulties). And after she fights him and defeats him, a bright light shone on her and she now realizes she is in an elegant place (better position in life) filled with royal people (divine blessing/glory). The bright light would be Heaven’s approval and it also signifies a divine revelation and insight to open the eyes of Alison for her see the great blessing that God has prepared for her.
That’s what the dream means. That’s one of the ways God pushes us to move up in life. Sometimes we face trials and difficulties, but unknown to many, these trials are stepping stones to push a person to their glory or to the blessing God has prepared for that person.
Here are basic symbols of dreams revealed to me from my walk with God: Please note that these symbols could mean even more than what has been put down here. And for accurate interpretation, its application depends on the whole parts of a dream given to the dreamer.
B Bathroom: place of cleansing/ secret sins Bedroom: Covenant with God/Intimacy with another Bees: anger, jealousy, slander and gossips Bell (ringing): A warning Bicycle: Immature ministry or very young ministry Blood: covenant/ death about to happen Bridge: Connection/ covenant between Jesus and a person. Bus: Group ministry
C Camera (seeing through camera): Spiritual revelation, deep insight Car: Ministry/Church *Old car: Ministry operating in an old fashioned way * Caterpillar/ Truck: spiritual work in a person’s life Car Park: Waiting for a period Cell phone: Business/ Job/ Finances *Cell phone lost/damaged: Business affliction/ job loss * Cell phone found: Job gain/new job/new financial blessing or profit in business Chain: Bondage/captivity Chair- Position/Waiting/Rest Classroom: Teaching/Spiritual Instructions Clock (depends on what time the clock says): God’s timing, delay, waiting period. Cock crowing: A warning Crossroads: A change/new direction or a decision to be made. Cupboard: Secret, evil secret
D Dawn: New blessing Dusk: Trial times, difficult times Dog: Carnal nature/Hypocrites/Unbelievers Driver (face hidden): Holy Ghost
E Electricity: Power of the Holy Ghost Employee: Servant/ serving God or Humility Employer: Good/bad authority.
F Father: Authority/ or someone in authority/ Your father Feathers: Protection Feet: Your calling/Spiritual faith and stand in God. Fire: Trouble/ Trials/ Lust/ Passion/ Judgement/Angels etc. Flies: Demons/ Spiritual pollution. Flood: Judgement Flying: New spiritual level Fridge: Preservation by God/plan of God
G Giant: Sin causing limitation/ demon/ Angel Gold: New spiritual gift/ great blessing
H House: One’s body or physical house Hospital: Place of healing
K Keyhole (peeping through key hole): Deep revelation of secret
L Left Hand: Spiritual calling/ Faith/Ministration Little girl: Young Ministry Lion: Devourer/ Satan/Jesus Christ/ Trials for new spiritual level
M Money: Great value/new blessing/divine favour/business profits Mother: Holy Spirit/ Church Moon: Wife or wife to be
O Old House: Old ways of life(sinful)
P Police: Spiritual authority/ Angels/ Demons Pregnancy: A new thing God is about to do Prison: Bondage
R Rain: Blessings or Troubles/ Financial troubles to come Right hand: Power/ strength Road or Path: Direction of one’s life *rough road: Trials/tribulations
S Snail: Slow growth in life/ slow progress Snake: Lies/ Deception/ Satan/ Demons/spiritual attack by seduction and temptation Storm: Trouble about to come Sun: Husband or Husband to be Sun, Stars and Moon together (Constellation): Heaven/ Authority of Heaven
T Tree: A person or a church. *VERY Tall Tree or Palm tree: A great person of high status.
U Umbrella: Protection
W Walls: Blockades, Limits Water: Holy Spirit White(colour): Purity, Holiness Widow: Husband will die/Church without Jesus Christ or Death of church’s Pastor. Wife: Church/ Holy Spirit/ Your wife Wig: Fake glory/Fake anointing/ Deceit. Wolf: False Prophet/ A very pretentious and deceptive person Woman: Witch/ Demon or Angel Worm: Sin/ Carnal nature
Y Yourself (another copy of yourself): Old man/ in the flesh.
This is just a basic guide to help in interpreting basic dreams. Dreams can carry more meaning than what has been listed here. When you don’t understand a dream, first of all ask God (in faith) to give you its interpretation before you ask someone with the gift of interpretation to help you.
If you have not heard from God, feel free to ask someone who can help you interpret the dream. If anyone seeks to know what a certain dream symbol may mean, please feel free to ask. I’m sure I and most of my brothers and sisters here will gladly love to help out.
God bless you all. May the peace of God continue to surround us in Jesus Name. Amen Good night guys
1. There is no "rapture" as in the nonsense we've all seen from the movie "Left Behind". I used to believe that also until I began to read with more understanding. The so-called "rapture" and the resurrection are one and the same event. The dead in Yashuah will RISE FIRST (from the ground -- hence, no heaven) and the souls that are left alive will quicken, and we'll all be changed in a twinkle of an eye and meet our Ha'Maschiach in the AIR. We the saints will escort him back down here on earth (Hebrew style, they typically escorted their guests from afar ie the king meeting his prodigal son/mary meeting Yashuah, etc) and FIGHT, alongside the heavenly host, the devil's army with our new bodies. So no, there is no "rapture" in the sense that Yashuah will whisk the saints off somewhere, even David hasn't been to heaven (Acts 2:34). Our heaven will be right here on earth -- and no, I'm no Jehovah's Witness, but they got THAT part right.
2. There will be a mark, the Bible says so. I'll even add my belief that this will be a very literal outwardly showing and obvious mark, b/c that's the way satan works (tatoos, branding, etc). He'll want to make it obvious to the Most High that whoever took the mark did so very much knowingly so that the poor soul cannot be absolved come the day of Judgement. He's tricky like that...
3. The scriptures speak of the earth going through labor pains during the last days. So yes, things will only get worse (for the saints) until the return of the Messiah at the LAST trump. NOTE: the Tribulation would have already been taking place BEFORE the last trump.
4. Per the Bible (not me), after the Return of the Messiah, the following events occur:
7 Bowls of Judgement Armageddon 1000yr Millennial Reign of those that made the 1st Resurrection, with the Messiah ruling from Jerusalem (not "heaven" Gog and Magog war at end of Millennial Reign Great White Throne of Judgement (sheep and goats wake to 2nd Resurrection) Satan and his goats will be thrown into Lake of Fire to join the anti christ and false prophet (pope) Death and Hell thrown into the Lake of Fire A new heaven and a new earth shall be established so that the Father who sits on the Thrown can come down to EARTH and New Jerusalem will come down. No flesh shall dwell before the Father therein, only spirit bodies whose name was written in the Lamb's Book of Life
All these can be found in chronological order from Rev 19-22.
ps-- an angel binds satan inside the bottomless pit for a 1000yrs in Rev 20. This is after Armageddon, clearly a future event. Satan ain't in hell, he's ruling from the second heaven scouring the earth seeking whom he can devour because he knows he has but a short time.
ive been on ghost mode since but wen i read ur post, i decided to shake of ghost mode dust. i have some questions. i have some observations. i have some truths/facts and i have some personal belief for you (or anyone interested) i want verified/ proven/questioned/corrected. In essence i intend picking on ur above post and making another topic on it (but not derailing this thread, hop i'm making sense?)
based on what you wrote aboe, i believe, that you believe that 1. there will be no rapture 2. there will be no mark giving period 3. that things will get badder and worser (permit my English) till we Jesus comes ? 4. after Jesus comes, the 1000 year reign comes, then, (according to you what next?)
please note that this is nor sarcasm. i honestly want your point of view. i will explain afTer your reply then you will understand why. LASTLY I HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT WILL DETERMINE A LOT IN OUR NEXT DISCUSSION. THE PLACE IN REVELATION WHERE ANGEL MICHEAL BATTLES WITH THE ANCIENT SERPENT. IS IT A FUTURE OCCURRENCE OR A PAST OCCURRENCE?
Lately, I've been having a lot of dystopian/end time dreams from the Most High. Its like he's preparing me for what's to come. Though I'm Nigerian, I live in the United States. There's a lot of strange things happening here, too much to mention in fact. The level of demonic activity has reached a fever pitch and its only going to get worse. Yah is strengthening me, and I pray for all my brothers and sisters in the faith. Your dream is just one of many the Most High is showing his children to strenghten their arms as well. Sorry, there is no pre-tribulation "rapture". There will be a quickening of the dead, a RESURRECTION at the sound of the LAST trump, where Yahshua will come for his bride.
Read Matt 24:29 VERY carefully.... the Messiah is coming for his elect (those in the grave and the few survivors during the 3.5yr purge) AFTER the tribulation and not a second before. The scriptures show a steady pattern of Yah taking his people "through"tests and trials... and not "rapturing" them out of it. That is a lie from the LovePeddler of babylon (early roman catholic church). We won't be raptured, we'll instead make it in the 1st Resurrection (Rev 20:4-5) and reign with Yashuah for 1000yrs HERE ON EARTH. Heaven will literally be here on earth, sorry, we're not growing wings and flying into the sky
The Wine The Rapture And The Oil (kerosene) All In One. Interpretation Needed
In a dream I was carrying a gallon of palm wine I bought and I kept it under the chair(or probably I hid it under the chair). In that dream, I slept and got into another dream of rapture. In the dream of my dream, rapture took place, a lot were happening like uniform officials were ubiquitous and arrests anyone they can reach and I saw some guys who were trying to hide and evade uniform officials but they were located and fished. Anywhere anyone hides a uniform officer is there to fish him/her out.
Their were many uniform officials everywhere u turn. Confusion and fear of unknown were on all direction, no one has guts but afraid that they may be apprehended and everyone was doing the same thing WALKING AWAY in whatever direction they face to avoid the tasked force. People were not smiling or talking to each other or united, but people were scattered.
The task force was actually enforcing something and it seems any one task force must hold unto someone that he/she reaches or finds or catch up with or grab or fished out. And the colour of their uniforms is caton color or immigration uniform and they are not joking but mean as if there life depend on bringing every single soul to the public to listen to a live broadcast or receive a new law or give account or receive a system of existence that involves people complying with the new order whether they like it or not. And I saw persons hiding even under table and in funny ways yet this officers will spot them and fish them out. I recognized two persons who were nabbed by the uniform men. I then awake in the dream. I found myself in crowded hang out and it was night.
Although it was night because this hang out place functions in the night, I particularly recognized two persons in that social point who I saw in the rapture dream. That social point is like a silver bird gallery or place of relaxation with imported iron seats found in the reception of big organizations and companies. The seats where arranged to face a flat screen tv for people who relax here also watch movies or sports. The social point was crowded when I began to talk to them about the rapture that will take place. I told them that no time they should take appropriate measures. And as i was talking the crowd was making effort to get idea of what am talking about before moving to get to what brought them there.
And as I was talking those 2 guys I saw hiding in The rapture dream of my dream that were later apprehended by the uniform officials showed up and I can remember that I started asking them what was their dreams and they bear witness to the people who heard me ( the place is so crowded and people pressed upon each other on a line up, trying to maintain a queue pressing towards the tv as if a waiter is there to give out ticket and heavy sound of secular music rend the air) that each of them dreamt of rapture.
The crowd while pressed in a queue and consciously advancing towards the imaginary persons in front still turned their attention towards me to get what am talking. After a while of talking about the rapture and the need for people to be alert.I noticed that a couple was taking snapshots of me (without my permission though) and as they sat satisfied muttering words like they got the autograph of a celebrity I realized that the crowded movie house or you can call it fun centre is now reduced to the couples and a few persons. The couples were loving up and playing with each other and I sat behind them facing a distant television opposite me with no waiter around anymore. I was aware of the environment that it was night. The couples were playing with each other and My gaze shifted from the lovers to under the seat and I realized I bought a full gallon of kerosene and I kept it under the chair in a lied down position.
THIS IS A VISION INDICATING THAT RAPTURE WILL TAKE PLACE SOON BUT...
In the beginning I was holding a gallon of palm wine which I bought to drink and I didn't taste it in that dream but towards The end I saw a gallon of kerosene which I bought and kept under a chair. Please can someone tell me the meaning of palm wine and kerosene dreamwise or spiritually i mean with regards to bible. Thanks
This Fineboy is a Lyinboy lol. He's been playing you all like a fiddle. He's been taking credit for another person's work, he's no interpreter of dreams, he's a FAKE lol. He's been exposed severally, notice he's not posted since he's been ousted.
One thing baffles me.. All the prophecies of Christ are becoming a reality...
No, bolaino is not saying Yashua doesn't exist, what I think he's saying is that Yashua is not coming to "rapture" anybody. Instead the dead in Yashua will RISE and join him in the clouds and escort him along with the heavenly host to fight the cyborgs, transhumans, supersoldiers and their elite masters (ie rothschilds) hiding in caves. We are going to be RESURRECTED, not "raptured" in the way the white soulless devils have taught us. That rapture doctrine will lead many to fall away when they find themselves in the midst of great tribulation and their white pink booty jesus is nowhere to be found...
Chosen1984: The so-called new world order is real, but Cannot come into existence until "The Catching away of the Saints (The Rapture).
As Far as the saints have not Departed,nothing of such can occur.
The new world order would apply to those that would miss the rapture.
The Question is Are you Prepared for the Rapture? My brothers and Sisters it is Much more closer than before. All signs are all glaring! It would happen in a Twinkle of an eye.
Right now the door of Heaven is still wide open. Do not try to Resist him. If you do, you'll cry wen you discover u hv being LEFT BEHIND! Its a Guarantee! You must Cry and try to repent if you are Left behind!! But then it would be too late. Remember: you cannot stand the Antichrist!! You cannot!!
You can be among the Saints if you can say this prayer: LORD JESUS, I am sorry for all evils i have done in the past! Please Forgive me. Delete my Name from The book of hell. Write my name in the Book of life. I believe that JESUS Died for me. Give me the grace to remain in you. Thank you for Saving me.
Having said this, i Welcome you to the body of saints waiting for the Rapture.
Join yourself to a Bible believing church where you will be reminded of Heaven and Genuine holiness.
I your little brother here is From THE LORDS CHOSEN CHARISMATIC REVIVAL MOVEMENT, located at Ijesha in Lagos here. GOD Bless you! Remain Rapturable
Um, no. Stop listening to the lies of white people who are in no place to interpret a book that was never given them. For the scriptures are SPIRIT and are LIFE. "Dead" people don't have the spirit to interpret a spiritual book. These people are soulless, the death and destruction they've left in the world's wake is testament to this. So with that said, it was the Catholics (pagan romans) who started that lie about the rapture, its just not scriptural. Read what Yashua said to the 7 churches and his closing address to all. There is a running theme of the saints to "endure to the end". There is no pattern of Yah whisking away his people from trials and tribulations, but giving them the fortitude to ENDURE and PERSEVERE through tribulation so that after their faith has been tested by fire, they come out like pure gold. You better leave that "rapture" nonsense alone, your pink booty white "jesus" ain't coming to snatch away nothing. You better start building your faith now... He's coming back to gather his elect AFTER the tribulation.
Matt 24:29-30
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days: ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ 30At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.…"
stevecantrell: Ok ok, tell me something I don't already know.
My only question is: Buhari, is he the NWO's man or is it PYO ?
Buhari is clearly a puppet, tap-dancing on the orders of the west, ie UN, IMF, World Bank, etc, all front organizations for the NWO/illuminati. Proof is in that jew David Axelrod that got him "elected", the same man responsible for Obama's re-election campaign. Funny how America is clamoring to attack Russia for involving itself in American politics with leaked Hillary emails, when the US subverted Nigerian politics by exacerbating political tensions to get their enemy out (GEJ) and literally placing their bumbling idiot it (BH) as president of Africa's largest nation.
The NWO essentially created Boko Haram on the one hand, and gave you the president whose supposed to "Bring Back Our Girls" with the other. You all fell for the hype. Don't you know that the NWO creates the problem watches for the reaction and offers you the solution? Its the illuminati hegelian dialectic.....Problem ---> Reaction ----> Solution. I'm afraid with the likes of that baboon in office, Nigeria has been duped once and for all....sold to the NWO at long last...
Just like I have always stated and many others too, When this caucasians and other non-blacks can't get to understand a thing, They give the glory to the aliens. Yes, there are Aliens made by Us. But are they incharge? definitely NO; they are also battling for their respective survival. To show how confused the nasa people are, they said and claimed that there are or may be life outside of the planet, (since, they've been seeing earthlike planet non-stop recently) but they claim they are simply microbes. Can anybody guess what that implies? It simply means that they don't want to accept that there are other powers greater than theirs. They are extremely confused and deluded.
It is written at 4:45 that this earth and mankind is the center of the universe, Earth matters alot, mankind, they are not a center of anything.
There is something about the caucasian that is just not right. We know due to their recessive genes, they can not possibly by the archetypes to this planet. They are not Adam, they are not Eve. All mankind was Black from Adam to well beyond post-flood. Their origins would unlock much of the mystery surrounding their despicable behavior, low-vibrational and extremely wicked existence today. I've heard repeatedly that they have rhesus monkey and neanderthal dna. Throw in a little rabbit, dog and cat dna and viola, you have a hybrid recessive beast lol. Anyway, bros, there is no such thing as aliens. What these silly white people call "aliens" are in fact DEMONS.
delishpot: My brother, I have been watching the trend and I know some wicked spirits using humans to achieve their sinister goals are at work. Not necessarily the USA, its a league of top world families being used to shake the world. They come from across the world. Wars, terror hunger, disease and pollution are their tools. There is nothing any man or woman can do. The bible said it shall come to pass and so shall it. Its time to walk in Gods light so we can rapture with the saints for being left behind will be tough for many christians. Its well, may God guide our paths.
Sorry delishpot, there is no "rapture", there is a RESURRECTION. Pray that you are part of the first resurrection and awake to everlasting life in the Kingdom with the Messiah. Read Revelation 20.
[quote author=bolaino post=40177907][/quote]@bolaino, its good to see some "woke" Africans, and in this case, "woke" Nigerians. The gay agenda is BUT ONE tentacle on the proverbial octopus of the NWO....it is all around us here in the united states. I keep telling my fellow nigerians flocking here in droves to escape buhari, to gtho of the US .... America is NOT the place you wanna be when "SHTF". Many Americans are already leaving America for southern hemisphere countries, particularly those in South America. With rumors of war, threats of emp, fema camps and martial law, inevitable financial collapse, nation rising against nation (increasing racism), etc, I have every intention of going back home sometime in the near future....
Yes it is.. I'm glad someone on this forum is "woke". This explains why the U.S. government ousted Jonathan by funding Buhari's campaign, sending David Axelrod as Buhari's campaign manager, and assisting in the rigging, to ensure Buhari took office. They (U.S.) want nothing but despots as their puppets ruling Africa and the world at large, and a complete bumbling jihadist IDIOT like Buhari is a perfect proxy to destabilize all what Nigeria had previously built.
Great thread. The Israelites were Black people. According to Josephus, the famous Hebrew historian, millions of Judeans fled into AFRICA after the fall of the temple in 70AD. Folks, just like Joseph, just like Moses, just like Jerobaum, and just like Yeshua, the Hebrews ALWAYS BLENDED OR FLED TO AFRICA -- because they LOOKED like Africans (Kemetians).
Flavius Josephus: "General Vaspasian and his son Caesar Titus fought against the Jews. Millions of Jews fled into Africa, among other places, fleeing from Roman persecution and starvation during the siege." The Great Roman-Jewish War 66-70AD.
kenis: Please, I desperately want to learn this language. I study in Calabar and have a girlfriend from Akwa-Ibom. I learnt that she get excited each time a try to speak it (even when I don't know what i was talking about). I have other female and male friends too. I don't want to learn it from them. I want to surprise them.
I want to learn it word by word or phrase by phrase. Speak, and then brake it down by word. I saw a thread opened by Odumchi but people where just speaking (writing) without translating. Always translate please.
Please lets start with the common phrases or word. Thank
ooh! I'm already excited myself......
Teach me Mbok!! Mbok mbok mbok. Hahaaha
lol, have you tried this website? Learn all the stuff here first. Its a great start. Good luck!
Can anyone tell me if there is a hostel at AAU called Idehenre place or Idehenre hostel? I imagine it must be off campus because I don't see it listed anywhere on the school website. How much are accomodation fees there?
morpheus24: I don' think the Fulani were Libyans or Cannanites. See depictions on picture below
Egyptian drawings picture Libyans quite differently from your typical Fulani looking person. They and Canaanites were very likely mostly sea peoples from the meditereanean coasts who migrated to African coastal shores and settled. You see Egyptians do picture themselves a little differently on the pics but I see them as intermediary to the Nubian/Sudanese and the Canaanite.
I do believe the Fulani and other ethnic groups did inhabit North Africa but I believe climatic conditions would have pushed them further West of Africa to the Savanna regions but over time they resettled and mingled with new tribes that inhabited the Sahara.
Thanks.
However, that picture is a famous fraud. The tomb of Sety that depicted the so-called races of men looked exactly like this:
Fulaman198: Fulani are very much native to Africa, and have been in the West African region for at least 10,000 years. Prior to that we were in North Africa. I would just say the original North Africans... North Africa was once 95%+ black today it's like 35% black. Today what you see are people of Greek, Roman and Turkish ancestry who pretend to be Berbers when they don't even practise Berber culture, and fake Arabs in North Africa.
Interesting. I would go so far as to say that even in the Old Testament times, at least until the rise of the Greek empire circa 300BC, North Africa was 100% Black.
Your response of just how 'mixed' the North Africans became opened the door to more questions.
But I'm still waiting for your response to my first 2. So what say you about the Fulani's presence during Biblical times, circa 2k-4kya. Are they the Libyans? Canaanites? Cretians? Ludims? Were these the people of Phoenician Carthage (Tunisia) circa 800BC? Or the Berber kingdom of Numidia (Libya) in 200 BC?
What were they called by the classic historians or Biblical and/or Islamic authors in ancient times?
providence338: Fulaman, are you saying that the pics of the TRUE Woodabe or Mbororo are those displayed in this thread? And are you saying the TRUE origins of the Mbororo is in Senegambia which is basically West Africa?
Thank you for your response.
During Biblical times, would these people be called the Libyans? or perhaps even Canaanites, since the remnant were driven out of Canaan (Israel) and unto varying parts of northern Africa during the invasion of Joshua?
During Roman times would they be called the Moors? Since the Latin word "maure" didn't come into existence until around 46BC to describe the Black-skinned peoples of northwest Africa.
For the record, I don't subscribe to the idea that they are somehow NOT indigenous to Africa (although I can see how one can believe such). People limited in knowledge seem to think that light skin (Khoisan), long noses (Mbororo) and straighter hair (Horners) are somehow unique to Africa, when those traits and quite frankly every phenotype on this planet are ancestral to Africa. Its not called the motherland for any other reason.
Fulaman198: it's very tough to not eat for almost a week and to continue dancing. I don't want to only live on water and milk for 7 days lol
Fulaman, are you saying that the pics of the TRUE Woodabe or Mbororo are those displayed in this thread? And are you saying the TRUE origins of the Mbororo is in Senegambia which is basically West Africa?
Mandume: Don't bother with these stringy-haired monkeys. They somehow feel they're "superior" even though most Africans don't even look like them at all. THEY are the abnormality, but somehow they've convinced themselves that their greasy-stringy hair, five-head skullz and god-awful teeth are attractive. Boggles my mind, I tell ya. Don't waste your energy on these losers.
LOL @ bolded. They do have huge buck teeth don't they, lol . Its good to have another sane poster chime in on this discussion. I had NO idea Horners were such horrible yet VERY DUMB people. That Arab supremacy really did them in. They have no idea how inexplicably STU.PID they sound, shuckin' and jivin' for what, a bunch of kooky sand niggers? They debase other Africans to gain approval from smelly towel heads, who aren't even at the top of the food chain. Now how STU.PID is that. Now that I'm seeing the fuller picture, any respect I had for Horners is out the window. Got no luv for a culture or society that breeds self hate...
And that axum guy... whoooo!!! (wipes brow) I literally felt my brain cells dying in my exchange with him, what a complete waste of human space. The dummy even has the nerve to hijack such a great moniker of which he is not befitting nor properly representing.
jantavanta: I never claimed to have anything that makes sense. I already pre-empted you not to expect anything satisfactorily thought provoking. More heads need to be put together to bring up what would make sense.
The last Ice Age in Europe started melting 45kya
There are figurines of Black Women in Europe as far back as 20,000 kya (so-called Venus figurines)
Archaeological excavations of Pale Skin (purely depigmented or albino) as far back as 10kya.
In Snow or Ice environment Ultraviolent radiation is abundant. Melanin is needed, and instead of losing colour, people would actually become darker-skinned.
Therefore the evolution from melaninated to pale skin should have started much earlier on.=, and not because of Ice or Snow.
If Atlantis sank and people could survive within the sunken land mass, they would be cut off from sunlight and they would gradually lose their colour.
HOW exactly do people survive within a sunken land mass?
axum: If your talking about the Bantus in Somalia, they were enslaved the last 500 years, and has nothing to do with Egypt. Its well known that Somalis enslaved Bantus, it was part of the Arab slave trade. Google yourself. Bantus/Nilotic were also slaves in Ethiopia.
That was not the question. You said the pics I showed of Black slaves in EGYPT (not Somalia, not Ethiopia, not Arab slave trade, EGYPT!) were of Bantus. Therefore my question was clear: SHOW PROOF THAT THE PICS I POSTED WERE OF BANTU SLAVES IN EGYPT.
But you evade the question by confusing and conflating your replies. I can't engage dummies. Don't have the time. YOu should have listened to your brother, who told you in your native tongue to leave this subject alone. Because even he sees you clearly don't know what you're talking about. The only thing you seem to be good at is looking down on non-Horners -- or should I say other Africans. YOu can't answer a simple question, yet you can pull up articles and recite dates/times/periods with lightening speed of Horners enslaving other Africans. Arrogant coons like yourself make me sick to the pit of my stomach. Well, it appears your supposed 'superiority' over everyone else has come to bite you in your collective cocky azzez, in the form of famine, filth, war disease and poverty now hasn't it? Of course, only an I.DIOT like you would gather from my posts that I'm trying to 'attach' myself to a radical islamist failed state anarchist government of the CUSHITES (shakes my head). You're clearly not that smart....how old are you exactly? Your country is the most FAILED state on this planet. Besides Chef Roble on reality TV, come again when your immature a z z actually has something to BRAG about in 2014. Until then, just STFU! Last post to you (drops mic)
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by providence338: 5:51pm On Jul 01, 2017
We are not ignorant of the enemy's devices.... the tell-LIE-vision and all the satanic "programming" that comes from it should be viewed with heightened scrutiny and spiritual discernment. Because if you want to know what's REALLY happening in this fallen world and what's to come in the future -- watch the films they churn out of hollywood. So you can't claim ignorance, the satanists/illuminists that run the world must show you their plans openly and plainly, though its done esoterically. 
lol). I pray this edifies you as it has for me! 
? They debase other Africans to gain approval from smelly towel heads, who aren't even at the top of the food chain. Now how STU.PID is that. Now that I'm seeing the fuller picture, any respect I had for Horners is out the window. Got no luv for a culture or society that breeds self hate...
