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flexybobo:
if Christ come now where will you be?
Jesus says he is coming

what Scripture did you read that Christ says he is coming, you still do not realize that, that time Jesus says he is coming has out dated.

dayodare49o:
Then we should accept that this place is not heaven but hell fire dont you notice that it has hell fire features. I am beginning to wonder when God will put enough fire wood into the funnels

lol,
i am out to live my life here on earth and enjoy it, i don't give a damn about the hell fire smoking stuff or funnel

flexybobo:
He asked us to do, men are looking for knowledge instead of doing

unfortunately, you can't do what you don't know no matter how hard you try.
if you like, filled with the holy spirit. where you don't know, you are still ignorant

flexybobo:
The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom

The fear of God simply means knowing the right thing to do, then do it.
it does not mean being afraid of God

paxonel:
those of us who have read bible will agree that there is no place in the Bible after Jesus resurrected, that is, from the book of act of the apostle down to revelation, that believers still saying that they were waiting for the world to end so that they will make heaven. There is no such thing.
Today, christians are still saying i want to make heaven, meanwhile, heaven came to earth the very day Christ ressurrected. That was the day men made heaven.Are they not confused like that.
I noticed that christians who fall into this category mostly are those who never went to school.
The dangerous thing is, even professors of Nigerian universities still have this belief, that they are going to make heaven,in this heaven that we are already in?
who then will educate those who didn't go to school at all?
You see, Nigerians have a very long way to go

lol
we were told in church let's pray so that all of us should make heaven.
imagine

Iceflox:
lol
they should also go for confession

what is that?
lol

op, is a fool
ahahaahaaaha!

denisbid:
why?

lol

denisbid:
you have noticed it too?
even the guys don't even make move to show affection publicly

it's because the girl will not approve of it.
she will prefer it done indoors

soulminister:
In Nigeria, people's perspectives differs. I learnt my lesson at a very young age that it isn't every lady who caught your admiration that you walk up to appreciate. most ladies will misinterprete your gesture as a flirt. only a few will show gratitude.

what leads to such?

either their experience with guys or they are immature in character or wisdom

#i rest my case

it is their experience with guys.
some guys are very forward.
You give them privilege
They will want to take the full village

come to think of it, why do girls not kissing their guys in public?

davien:
So you're afraid of your mortality? lol....your probably unfamiliar with other abrahamic religions and their "offers" of "everlasting life"....

immortality is a gift from God, we accept it because it is better than mortality, not because we are afraid.
ok, To summarize some of their beliefs
Buddhism teaches that eternal life means, liberation from ignorance while you are alife here on earth,you will still die and go after the enlightenment .
Hinduism says it is after life at celestial worlds,
Islam says this life is a preparation for eternal life in another world.
Judaism is still waiting for the Christ to bring eternal life on earth.that means, they don't even have at all
But all these religions never promised resurrection of the dead as means of continuity, here on earth.Christianity is the only religion that is bold to say that
so, their eternal life is not eternal life in the real sense because it is not life on earth with real body and oxygen to breath , But on celesials and elsewhere, where there is no life.

Zoharariel:
Everything about Christianity, Children of Israel, Jesus & Yahweh are mind bogging...... fraud.

Now, let us examine some biblical bullshits together.

Yahweh was eating Fufu & Edikaikong when the serpent was wrecking havoc in Eden.

Yahweh couldn't figure out Abraham's faith until he carried out a senseless child-killing experiment.

Yahweh had to gamble with Satan just to ascertain Job's loyalty.

Yahweh knew Lucifer would rebel & yet he created him.

Yahweh loves his children [Christians] so dearly & yet he couldn't send Lucifer & his fallen angels to another Planet like Pluto or Saturn but earth.

I could go on & on but mio raye iranu laaro kutu-kutu Tuesday, so you can help yourself by going thru this thread below:

www.nairaland.com/2207187/prof-yemi-osibanjo-called-god#31880744

My friend, Yahwey is not just Omni-daft, but also Omni-deluded & crazy!

If Yahweh had not allow all these things to happen how will mankind recognize that he exist? How will they see that he has power to do and undo?
How then will there be Christianity on earth?
I am very sure that Adam would have forgotten about him over the years if lucifer was thrown to Jupiter or saturn or pluto .
If you truly doubt his power over you, you will end Christianity.
Do you know how many atheists have tried to end Christianity (inspite all the rubbish practice in churches ) yet they could not succeed?
You don't have any hiding place,
Yahweh has establish his presence on earth in the form of Christianity (Jesus Christ )
You can't fight him.
This shows he has power over you

davien:
What would justify leaving Christianity? and If I presented you with it would you leave?

To say i will leave Christianity, that means, what you are going to present will offer eternal life, But no other religion has ever been bold enough to say i will give you everlasting life.
where will they start, how will they do it?
tell me

alolatee:
My Brother, i was in ur shoes some years back when certain things made me loose interest in church and i started comparing myself with other non-believers-people i was better than spiritually.When i started to go to church again, i lost interest in everything and the church became so boring to me.Now i know better it was the devil waiting to see me in hell.I would advise u to surrender your all to Christ as Lord and Saviour and obey your parents by going to a bible believing church.Do this i pray thee and obey the bible injuction warning us not to forget the assembly of brethren as it is the manner of some is-Hebres10vs25.Don't allow the devil to cheat you, the advantages of going to church far outweighs staying at home watching movies or listening to Tv preachers.Take a step away from backsliding and you are victorious once again

wise christians don't go to church anymore so that they will not continue to be exploited by pastors,
if you forsake the gathering nothing will happen, Paul is not Jesus Christ.
Wise christians understand from the scriptures that they now have autonomy on their own through Christ.
Jesus says in
John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem(church ), worship the Father.
He even said he has destroyed the temple(building ) and build his church (people ) in 3 days.
Therefore, THE CHURCH is not building but people.
so church building or place of worship is vanity.
Being a true worshipper is simply just being yourself and live your life knowing you are saved , cos your body is God's temple.
Nigerians are very fake people for going to church, they are trying to use church going cover for their corrupt minds by deception . 99% Nigerian population are truly corrupt people including me that i am talking if i must be sincere
@op, i will advice you, don't be like these hypocrites .

Zoharariel:
CC: benodic

@OP - When I joined MFM 13 years ago, I was burning & yearning to get closer to their god. I even joined a prayer group, I was filled with what they call the spirit, I got closer, I even became the word, then along the line, I discovered that Christianity was built on lies and immorality. I started seeing things as they were. Hypocrisy, Lies, Illusion, Immorality, Gossips, Covetousness, Stealing, Preferential Treatments e.t.c in the Holy house of their god.

I knew there is more to this Universe & the kingdom of Heaven than all the craps being fed to the congregation in the Christiandom and I was ready to go the extra mile.

There's nothing holy or sacred about the church. The decadence has so eaten deep into all of them that Pastors, G.O's, and Mummy G.O's see it as an avenue to quick wealth. Little wonder, most of them keep jumping from 1 confusion to the other.

Then I realized that this Universe is filled & directed by a supernatural intelligence known as the Cosmic Life Energy/Force.

You only need to raise your vibrations and attune your soul to this Intelligent Force through Spiritual Exercises and you will experience bliss & miracles.

In conclusion; they will always try to bind you to their lies in order to continue milking you by telling you u've backslided, and that the devil is responsible, but when your soul is ready to unfold or awaken, no amount of lies can hold it back.

it is true that churches are exploiting members, but that is not enough reason to abandon Christianity (Jesus Christ ) and resolve to cosmic dead floating objects and bodies..
You have life in you and far better than dead objects, what are you looking for?

onomeglo:
pardon me,u must be an Atheist

if i was atheist i wont advice you to read bible,
Christianity is not church going, those who go to church and those who don't go are still the same christians, saved people.

onomeglo:
lolz if na bible,we av it in abundant,hmmm am talking abt d lack of zeal or spirit of not going to church

you cannot be closer to God by going to church, in the first place, no church in Nigeria is good, they are all the same.
read your bible for yourself

onomeglo:
I have backsiided drastically frm serving God,infact I don't feel excited going to church anymore,eversince our church was demolished by the government,not that dere are not good churches around our neigbourhood,bt I dnt feel the need going to anychurch again instead I stay at home watching movies frm sundays to sundays,well my parents have talked and rebuked me effortlessly, yet I won't change.I don't knw the devil using me oooo,I need prayers asap and suggestions.tanks

no devil is using you.
it is good to seek freedom.
it depend on you
it depend on what you know in the bible.
may be you have read bible and understand certain truth and how to abstain from every form of sin or you keep the commandments, and you want to be free from religious activities or church going.
i think you are in your best form in Christianity.
You are far better than those who go to church
there is no point going to church again since you already know.
You are already closer to God like this.
And you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.
so, you are free
congratulation!
But incase you have not come to this point of knowledge you can still be going so that you will learn or better still, pick your bible and read for yourself if you know how to read and write, it will save you the stress of going to church
knowledge is better than staying at home knowing nothing in the Bible.

paxonel:
thanks for the correction!
i was trying to say that he will suffer the sin in the life he commited the sin but he is free after death

thanks too!
i must say i am learning a lot from you

paxonel:
to deliberately live and abide in sin is not a good thing,we will suffer the consequence like anyone else if we do. This is the judgement of this world. whoever break the law must go for it.
that's why Christianity do not promote sin like you say.
But in the spirit realm where our justification lies it's a different thing entirely. we are justified by our faith (which is Christianity ) into eternal life, not by the law or any of our good action in this physical life.
so, if you are good you will enjoy your eternal life on earth.
if you are bad you will suffer your eternal life on earth.
there is suffering in heaven.
it's as simple as that

are you saying one will suffer the consequence of his sin throughout his entire eternal life or he will suffer the consequence in the life he commited the sin only ?
Romans 6:7 says For he that is dead is freed from sin.

UncleJudax:
Going to church doesn't make one a believer. People go to church for different reasons.

that's true

paxonel:
ahahahaahaaa!!
while men slept, the devil came and sow a seed of tares among the grains and went his way

lol
funny

paxonel:
exactly!

honestly, i couldn't recognize this thread, what happened?
lol

paxonel:
ahahahaaaahaaa!!!
lwkmo

lol,
the world is full of confused people..
i try not to listen to anybody again.
just keep on doing what i know how to do best

paxonel:
ahahaahaaaha!
ok, you are good teacher, i am false.
please i want to ask a question good teacher,
what do you mean by the things of this world?
houses, train, car, money?

no!
It is dog, pussycat and tomato
lol

[quote author=paxonel post=31312210][/quote]that's true

Hildalicious:
what's your concept of being religious?
is it active church going?

exactly!
i like the way you descibe it.
active church going,
active mosque going, or what ever excesses.
it is not bad on it's own. But when it become uncontrollable it becomes a problem to the person

paxonel:
judging from my five senses you are absolutely correct.
God is not angry with atheists or Muslims or anybody for not believing. He provide all these things equally for everybody. christians and non christians alike.
But judging from the spiritual angle which i don't have power over, it's a score to settle between God and them

in that case, religion is not worth killing ourselves for, because the very God we are trying hard to please by being religious is not even religious himself

paxonel:
you are not sure whether there is after life or not, you are not spirit.
so am i, i was told too.
yes, to say heaven is beyond the clouds is myth, it is not realistic
the truth is, this life is heaven already by simply believing.
the idea is, if i do not believe i won't be in the after life in the first place,i will just die away and be condemned, so there will be no room whether God will be angry with me for not believing.
gambling?
lol,
you funny o,
me and you who is now gambling with life?
wait, check what gambling means.
it means to risk money or something valuable with the hope of winning more if you are lucky or if you guess something correctly.
so, since i cannot even sure what christians are saying about Jesus are correct or not, because i wasn't there to see whether it truly happened or not,.i don't want to guess anything, therefore i am not gambling.
life is so valuable to me for me to start gambling with it.
all i do is to take them by their word and believe what they say, it takes nothing from me.
what they are saying is simply good news, that we will resurrect, and i can't wait to be alive again once I'm dead because life is sweet.

is God truly angry with atheists for not believing?
i mean, we all have equal opportunity to the air, water,sunlight, to work hard and be successful,

Nairalander01:
Good, you see your tithe is not a free will donation unlike the offering
That why you use the word 'give' when it comes to offering
And 'pay' when it comes to tithe, showing that it an obligation/duty as a christian that you pay your tithe as at when due(for your own good)

it's ok,
i will think over paying.
But i really do not know the benefit or what the money is supposed to be used for.
whether for charity or for the church

dodoniyi:
Rev. Ken Oyakhilome, younger brother of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, founder of Christ Embassy Church has also been accused of fornication and adultery.

Recall that Last week, there was a viral media report that Rev. Anita, wife of the popular spiritual father, Pastor Chris, had filed for divorce in the UK, on the grounds of ‘adultery’ and ‘unreasonable behaviour.’

However, in the heat of the controversy, another scandal has come up in the chuch, as Pastor Chris’ younger brother, Rev. Ken as he popularly called was alleged to have impregnated a South African lady, name withheld, a member of the Church in Randburg, Guateng, which is the headquarters of Christ Embassy, South Africa.

Rev. Ken used to be the regional Pastor of Christ Embassy in charge of South Africa until a few years when he was transferred to the branch of the church in Texas, USA.
According to the Nigerian Times, sources say the romance between Rev. Ken and the member was an open secret among members of the Church in South Africa and the alleged pregnancy of the lady was said to have ruffled feathers among the leaders of the church, but was buried in order to prevent a scandal. The lady, according to sources, aborted the child with the knowledge of front-runners of the church.

Report further says that for over ten years now, Rev. Ken has lived separately from his wife, Ose. Pastor Ose used to manage the Okota, Lagos branch of the Church while her husband, Ken was the regional pastor in South Africa. The couple still live apart, even as Pastor Ose now manages the Church in South Africa while her husband, Ken is in Texas, running the church there.

Although the alleged affair between Rev. Ken and the church member which resulted in pregnancy, was kept as atop secret, the crisis in the Church involving Pastor Chris and his wife Anita, has unraveled many things that were initially kept secret. Some members of the Church who are currently not happy over the ongoing development. They have taken to different social media platforms to air their views.

One Sister Lebogang Radibela wrote: “It’s true, here in Johannesburg a pastor impregnated a young lady and forced her to do abortion, later on, the lady was promoted to being a Pastor, and till today, she is still a Pastor, working together with the wife of the pastor who impregnated her. Members act like this is normal; I mean where we draw a line.”

AnotherJacob Nnoli: @Sister Lebogang Radibela, “it’s not just a Pastor. It’s our darling older brother, Rev. Ken himself that activated the pregnancy button, but it’s shocking to know that our regional pastor, Pastor Ose Oyakhilome, a mother herself supported the abortion and by (following the principle of the ) 48 laws of power, she’s keeping her close. That sounds like what an ‘area mother’ would do and to top it up, the grandfather himself, Rev. Chris ordained the sister a pastor and probably help seared the damaged conscience with some rands/dollars. How many more in Nigeria region? Time will fail us to speak of Asaba, Kaduna, Port Harcourt, Benin and many too numerous to mention. I had to listen to that Youtube message again this morning and I can now understand when Pastor Chris said Pastor Anita should have moved with those who will help her as the wife of global pastor. Is this what she should learn, to help Pastor Yemisi and other indicted ladies? Actually, Pastor, you forgot to announce the firing of Pastor Pat, the CSO as a result of leaked White House (Pastor Chris’ residence in Lagos) information and the hiring of a brother-in-law, Deacon Kingsley Osazuwa. Our darling Rev Ken, it looks like Durex, Trojan, and Gold circle condoms etc have all finished in the market because of ….May God have mercy but we need to obtain the mercy.”

SOURCE: http://dailypost.ng/2014/09/01/chris-oyakhilomes-younger-brother-also-accused-adultery/

ok [quote author=dodoniyi post=31263059]Rev. Ken Oyakhilome, younger brother of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, founder of Christ Embassy Church has also been accused of fornication and adultery.

Recall that Last week, there was a viral media report that Rev. Anita, wife of the popular spiritual father, Pastor Chris, had filed for divorce in the UK, on the grounds of ‘adultery’ and ‘unreasonable behaviour.’

However, in the heat of the controversy, another scandal has come up in the chuch, as Pastor Chris’ younger brother, Rev. Ken as he popularly called was alleged to have impregnated a South African lady, name withheld, a member of the Church in Randburg, Guateng, which is the headquarters of Christ Embassy, South Africa.

Rev. Ken used to be the regional Pastor of Christ Embassy in charge of South Africa until a few years when he was transferred to the branch of the church in Texas, USA.
According to the Nigerian Times, sources say the romance between Rev. Ken and the member was an open secret among members of the Church in South Africa and the alleged pregnancy of the lady was said to have ruffled feathers among the leaders of the church, but was buried in order to prevent a scandal. The lady, according to sources, aborted the child with the knowledge of front-runners of the church.

Report further says that for over ten years now, Rev. Ken has lived separately from his wife, Ose. Pastor Ose used to manage the Okota, Lagos branch of the Church while her husband, Ken was the regional pastor in South Africa. The couple still live apart, even as Pastor Ose now manages the Church in South Africa while her husband, Ken is in Texas, running the church there.

Although the alleged affair between Rev. Ken and the church member which resulted in pregnancy, was kept as atop secret, the crisis in the Church involving Pastor Chris and his wife Anita, has unraveled many things that were initially kept secret. Some members of the Church who are currently not happy over the ongoing development. They have taken to different social media platforms to air their views.

One Sister Lebogang Radibela wrote: “It’s true, here in Johannesburg a pastor impregnated a young lady and forced her to do abortion, later on, the lady was promoted to being a Pastor, and till today, she is still a Pastor, working together with the wife of the pastor who impregnated her. Members act like this is normal; I mean where we draw a line.”

AnotherJacob Nnoli: @Sister Lebogang Radibela, “it’s not just a Pastor. It’s our darling older brother, Rev. Ken himself that activated the pregnancy button, but it’s shocking to know that our regional pastor, Pastor Ose Oyakhilome, a mother herself supported the abortion and by (following the principle of the ) 48 laws of power, she’s keeping her close. That sounds like what an ‘area mother’ would do and to top it up, the grandfather himself, Rev. Chris ordained the sister a pastor and probably help seared the damaged conscience with some rands/dollars. How many more in Nigeria region? Time will fail us to speak of Asaba, Kaduna, Port Harcourt, Benin and many too numerous to mention. I had to listen to that Youtube message again this morning and I can now understand when Pastor Chris said Pastor Anita should have moved with those who will help her as the wife of global pastor. Is this what she should learn, to help Pastor Yemisi and other indicted ladies? Actually, Pastor, you forgot to announce the firing of Pastor Pat, the CSO as a result of leaked White House (Pastor Chris’ residence in Lagos) information and the hiring of a brother-in-law, Deacon Kingsley Osazuwa. Our darling Rev Ken, it looks like Durex, Trojan, and Gold circle condoms etc have all finished in the market because of ….May God have mercy but we need to obtain the mercy.”

SOURCE: http://dailypost.ng/2014/09/01/chris-oyakhilomes-younger-brother-also-accused-adultery/[/quote