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Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Really Possible To Rob God? by Proximo73(op): 8:31pm On Mar 03, 2015

Nairalander01:
Yes the Bible says so in Malachi 3:8-12. Sorry to ask are you a christian?

yes
I'm a Christian

Christianity Etc › Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Proximo73: 8:23pm On Mar 03, 2015

paxonel:
yeah!
infact, it is the best idea.
why?
because, whether it is true or not that Jesus is,
and that we will resurect, by believing alone i have suceeded in putting myself in a safe position just in case it's true that we will resurrect.
Because, i love life so much and i am truly enjoying it.
But it turns out the other way round that Jesus didn't come to resurrect, i still have nothing to loose.
the day i die, i will die and go away

ahahaaahaaa! grin

paxonel:
yeah!
infact, it is the best idea.
why?
because, whether it is true or not that Jesus is,
and that we will resurect, by believing alone i have suceeded in putting myself in a safe position just in case it's true that we will resurrect.
Because, i love life so much and i am truly enjoying it.
But it turns out the other way round that Jesus didn't come to resurrect, i still have nothing to loose.
the day i die, i will die and go away

ahahaaahaaa!
you are funny o

Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Really Possible To Rob God? by Proximo73(op): 7:37pm On Mar 03, 2015

Nairalander01:
Yes, when you dont pay your tithe you rob God.

hmmm!
just like that?

Christianity Etc › Is It Really Possible To Rob God? by Proximo73(op): 7:34pm On Mar 03, 2015

i mean
God is a spirit, guns and sticks can't break his bones.
or do spirits eat money?
what is happening?

Christianity Etc › Re: sexual decadence; the christain stand point by Proximo73: 5:45pm On Mar 03, 2015

Extom:
English shaaa

pls, i want to ask, will there be sex in heaven?

Christianity Etc › Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Proximo73: 5:32pm On Mar 03, 2015

paxonel:
Do you really think that pagans are christians who don't go to church?
here is the true definition of a pagan from English dictionary.
a person practicing an ancient religion that had many gods and praised nature.
example: pagan temples devoted to the Greek and Roman gods.
so, it's all about the religion.
and you know that idolatry is a religion on it's own away from Christianity.
that's why God hated idolatry in the old testament

you are right!!
it's just that terrible people are now seen in churches these days so that we don't know who is who

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Christianity Etc › Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Proximo73: 4:57pm On Mar 03, 2015

paxonel:
those that go to church and those who don't go are not different in the eyes of God

I am talking about pagans.
if they truly believe, then they will go to church

Christianity Etc › Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Proximo73: 6:54am On Mar 03, 2015

paxonel:
no matter the church.
if you were born into a christian home, whether you are a Catholic or Protestant or aladurah or whatever, Christ don't care.
so long you believe in him whom God has sent, which is Jesus Jesus Christ.
you are automatically saved.
so, all these your religious activities in church is just vanity.
just live your life, love everybody (non christians alike ) and enjoy yourself.
this is your greatest calling

how about those who don't go to church at all? or pagans
don't tell me they are saved too

Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 7:40pm On Feb 17, 2015

Iceflox:
i do not abandoned my brethren
I still love everyone, it's just that i am reading my bible and becoming more knowledgeable and flexible enough to change some of my beliefs.
right now, i am a better person than the average Nigerian church routine Christian.
they are not learning, they remain rigid, with the regular pastoral teachings and they are not changing in mindset or upgrading their knowledge of the bible or letting go of old traditional beliefs which they have succeeded in mixing with christianity,which are antagonistic to ethical values and attitude.
therefore, Nigeria as a nation will never change from this current state of mass corruption and abject poverty .
but, they are all saved, simply because they believe in Christ.
if you ask average Nigerian, they will proudly tell tell you we are africans, you can't change us
lol

you people are gradually changing things in church. people are no more loyal to pastors again.
but absolute loyalty was given to men like Moses, Elijah, etc.
any bridge to this attracted a punishment from God.
a man argued with our pastor in church today and he seems to know the scriptures than our pastor and was winning the argument.
our pastor got offended and excommunicate him.
you people are the one causing this o

Christianity Etc › Re: The World Will End At 2029, Finish Your Last Money by Proximo73(op): 5:21pm On Feb 14, 2015

I saw the future map of the world, a pastor revealed it in a revelation.
asteroids are coming o

Christianity Etc › Re: The World Will End At 2029, Finish Your Last Money by Proximo73(op): 3:24pm On Feb 14, 2015

elantraceey:

there is pannick everywhere now, run for your lives

Christianity Etc › The World Will End At 2029, Finish Your Last Money by Proximo73(op): 3:11pm On Feb 14, 2015

Studies have indicated that a huge asteriod inpacted the earth billions of years ago which is responsible for the extinction of dinosaurs on earth
Another asteroid impact is causing alarm on earth right now,it will cause the extinction of mankind in 2029. after a report that it had a 2.7 per cent chance of hitting Earth in 2029, and even if it missed, the encounter could set it up for another strike in 2036. The asteroid topped the Torino Scale of risk, briefly reaching level four out of 10 – where zero is no threat and 10 is WE'RE DOOMED!
It is reported that the asteriod will land Africa.
so, start eating and drinking, spend your last money before then.

Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 7:45am On Feb 14, 2015

Iceflox:
what do you mean? that i should go and establish church and become a pastor?
my friend, the truth is for everybody, both the poor and the rich.
not only me.
how about you? go establish your church.
lol

lwkmo
nor go establish your church first make you start to dey make your millions

Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 8:25pm On Feb 12, 2015

Iceflox:
i don't need church

a lot of people will learn from you if you truly allow yourself to be used by God

Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 9:24am On Feb 07, 2015

Iceflox:
it is not all scriptures of the Bible that was directly meant for christians. for instance, circumcision, keeping the Sabbath day. they were meant for the Jews.
But Christ disobey that law right before their eyes and go to work on Sabbath.
so you see, church going is optional.
if you like go
if you like don't go
nobody will slap you.
i believe that Paul adviced christians not to forsake the assembly in that Scripture because, Christianity was new at that time, with few people. so, they needed to encourage themselves to remain in the faith.
But today, we don't need all that encouragement.
we just know that Christianity is the way the truth and the life , not Islam or any other religion.
because, this is the time for knowledge.
I know some people will still not understand me.. lol

it depend on the individual sha,
their ability to understand. people are different with different ability to understand a particular context.
some people think it is like this, others think it is like that.
that's why we have different denominations or sects in Christianity.
But, it think the most important thing is that, we all believe that Jesus is our saviour

Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 8:30am On Feb 06, 2015

Iceflox:
Paul says in
Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
you see that you are already a law unto yourself, you don't need church?
ok
verse 15 says, Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
so if he is morally upright enough to keep the law with his conscience and he says he doesn't need the law and church again, he is equally good.
But if he is not morally upright like most Nigerians (95% Nigerian population are corrupt people inspite all the churches and mosques ).
then, there is need for him be going to church so that pastor will teach him.
that is, if the pastor is passing the right information or breaking down the 10 commandments and explain how they should be applied in real life situations like you said.
But unfortunately, we don't have any such pastor in Nigeria.
all of them are after money.
that's why i say it is useless to go

you are right!
it's just that, even if i know this truth, i won't just suddenly stop going to church.
i already have commitments that i must fulfil

Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 8:05pm On Feb 05, 2015

Iceflox:
how is this Scripture a law?
is it part of the 10 commandments?
the 10 commandments only asked the Jews to keep the Sabbath, not christians. there was no Christianity at that time.
Infact, Jesus didn't go to the temple, rather he went to work one Sabbath day like that.
when he was accused he told them he is the lord of the Sabbath.
if you accused me of not going to church i will tell you that Christ has made me lord of Sundays, i don't need church.
if a christian choosed to disobey this Scripture and go ahead to forsake the assembly what will happen?
nothing.
it won't make him less a Christian
he remains saved.

what if the pastor is passing the right information, teaching the congregation how to obey the law and be morally upright, will he not be missing out with the lessons thereby making his life miserable if he has not been going ?

Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 2:46pm On Feb 05, 2015

Iceflox:
lol.. i thought as much
you are very right.
that's the point i was trying to let alexk2 know.
the church is getting almost everything wrong in the bible and it is affecting Nigeria negatively.
I believe that God will solve Nigeria problem through the church, that is, if the pastors are getting the bible right.
even boko haram will recommend church going for people if pastors are getting the Messages of the bible right.
the bible is saying one thing and they are making people to believe another thing entirely which does not relate with bible.
na God go help us.
it does not matter whether the person is a Muslim or a Christian so long we have a credible person to rule Nigeria.

op, i think this Scripture is the main reason why people go to church
Hebrews 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
and it is seen as a law in christianity

Christianity Etc › Re: Stock Brokers Sue Oyedepo For Not Paying Them by Proximo73: 1:53pm On Feb 05, 2015

Dreal1247:
.
Ps stop criticizing men of God.

men of God should welcome criticism.
they are all servants to us
we pay them through our tithes and offering so they should be answerable to us.
if Jesus could clean his disciples feet then these likes of oyedepo should leak my foot

Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 11:31am On Feb 04, 2015

Iceflox:
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do you see Muslims in church? no
therefore everybody are christians in church.
the thing i am trying to let you know that pastors refuses to tell church members is that, your salvation is solely depend on your religion which is Christianity, which is our faith.
the bible says the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith, that is, from religion to religion.
it was Judaism (the religion of the jews) first, and now it is Christianity.
that implies that if you were born into a Christian home you are saved automatically.
you don't need all these religious activities or church going anymore
please runaway from pastors

so, how about those benefits people get from churches by way of giving arms, help to the needy?
don't you know that if people stop going to church there will be no such help again?

Christianity Etc › Re: Stock Brokers Sue Oyedepo For Not Paying Them by Proximo73: 11:12am On Feb 04, 2015

misreal:
first remove the log from your eye before attempting to remove the wood from another man's eyes.

i know
in any case, both the log and the wood should be removed.
that's the only we we will see result.
not only removing the log and allow the wood to be simply because he is a religious leader

Christianity Etc › Re: Stock Brokers Sue Oyedepo For Not Paying Them by Proximo73: 10:42am On Feb 04, 2015

misreal:
kkkk..please keep accusing him.your problem anyway.

or you people that have problem o
old testament says don't accuse a man of God or you will have problem with God.
you people forgot that we are now in the new covenant, old covenant has pass.
in this new covenant every christians are man of God on their own.
is that why oyedepo keeps reading old testament to renew the courses of the Jews to christians so that they willl be afraid to talk when he is doing bad?
make oyedepo and pastors nor go think am o, this is era of enlightenment everybody don know the truth from the Bible now.
if he is not doing bad nobody will accuse him, that's the truth.
infact, all our prayer is, let our pastors and imams teach us well from the bible and quran so that it will be well for this country.

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Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 8:31am On Feb 04, 2015

Iceflox:
ok,
knowing Jesus vs knowing about Jesus.
you say, knowing about Jesus is going to church, knowing that Jesus was born on xmas, appreciate his death and resurrection , etc
But knowing Jesus is to accept (believe ) that he is the Messiah and be saved.
if that is what you mean by knowing him,to answer your question,i know him personally.
I believe that Jesus saved me from sin and death.
But what i am saying is everybody who go to church believe, they are all saved. But pastors don't want to hear that one, they keep calling alter calls inside church, calling some church members unbelievers simply because they comit sin, thereby making them to believe that they don't have enough faith or faith at all.
i know you also share this view of pastors.
it is not biblical, please run away from pastors even if it takes you not to go to church again. it has a negative effect of people's mental development

it is not everybody who go to church that have faith. some people are bench warmers, they are not Christian by their action, the are only Christian by mouth

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Christianity Etc › Re: Stock Brokers Sue Oyedepo For Not Paying Them by Proximo73: 8:24am On Feb 04, 2015

misreal:
....hello Mr god..if you really are god who knows the end from the beginning.Please what is my real name..if you can't tell me,I suggest you stop accusing a man without hearing his own side of the story..I see a lot of immatured individuals on naira land...

what is his side of the story when he slapped a little girl unjudiciously on his pulpit? he didn't have anything to say with a concrete evidence.
he was even saying if he has a second chance he will slap her the second time,
what did she do to him? nothing.
i think he is arogant and unrepentant

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Christianity Etc › Re: Stock Brokers Sue Oyedepo For Not Paying Them by Proximo73: 8:32pm On Feb 03, 2015

misreal:
my brother l,you have no right whatsoever to abuse or rain insult on another man,talk less of a pastor.in jude1:9..if angel Michael could not accuse Satan,then who do you think you are to accuse another man.even though oyedepo kills a man,the best you can do is pray for him.accusing him will only damn you..be wise my friend and thread cautiously.

do you pray for boko haram when they kill people? no
instead, you pray that God should kill them too.
is it because boko haram are Muslims?
if oyedepo is killing people you should pray that he should be killed too.
lf he is doing bad in the pulpit then u must learn how to voice out and accuse him.
God will bless you

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Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 8:25pm On Feb 03, 2015

Iceflox:
your testimony has increased his own faith or it has encouraged him to go to church the more?
which one out of the two?
because, i am sure your friend had faith already long before you met him.,he was a Christian and not a Muslim, and he still remain a christian even after he heard your testimony .
having faith is simply joining Christianity if you were a Muslim before , check your Bible.
so you see, something is wrong somewhere.
somebody is taking advantage of you not knowing what faith actually mean in the Bible

the Bible defined faith as the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
what are you talking

Christianity Etc › Re: Stock Brokers Sue Oyedepo For Not Paying Them by Proximo73: 5:05pm On Feb 03, 2015

danies1941:
Churches dont pay tax in America (USA).

is that why churches don't pay tax in Africa? don't you know Africa is third world, that we need the money for development?
america is a developed nation, their pastors are not rich like oyedepo,
they can choose not to tax churches. But we can't afford to do that

Christianity Etc › Re: Winners Chapel's Reply To Allegations On Bishop Oyedepo by Proximo73: 4:03pm On Feb 03, 2015

Bishop oyedepo first dey misbehave before, that's why i wasn't surprise when that statement was acredited to him.
tell him to stop misbehaving

Christianity Etc › Re: Stock Brokers Sue Oyedepo For Not Paying Them by Proximo73: 3:44pm On Feb 03, 2015

Ilekeh:
him think say na God go pay am.

my own is, stop going to church
God is not church, church is not God.
let these men of God die in hunger

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Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 3:30pm On Feb 03, 2015

Iceflox:
whatever!
But you know it is not intelligent doing anything without a reason.
God never did anything without a reason.
so, if you must go to church, you must have a tangible reason why you should be going.
nigerians go to church without any tangible reason. they are just going
why do people always go to church in this part of the world?
is it fear that is causing them? fear of the unknown

they say africans used to be afraid of trees such that they worship trees and seek protection from trees during primitive days.
may be that is what they are still doing till now, they worship church instead of God.
they seek money protection from church

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Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 3:05pm On Feb 03, 2015

Iceflox:
whatever!
But you know it is not intelligent doing anything without a reason.
God never did anything without a reason.
so, if you must go to church, you must have a tangible reason why you should be going.
nigerians go to church without any tangible reason. they are just going
why do people always go to church in this part of the world?
is it fear that is causing them? fear of the unknown

Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, Going To Church Is Not Important At All by Proximo73: 3:03pm On Feb 03, 2015

Iceflox:
whatever!
But you know it is not intelligent doing anything without a reason.
God never did anything without a reason.
so, if you must go to church, you must have a tangible reason why you should be going.
nigerians go to church without any tangible reason. they are just going
why do people always go to church in this part of the world?
is it fear that is causing them? fear of the unknown

they say africans were afraid of trees during primitive days, such that they were worshiping trees in order to seek protection from trees.
may be that's what they are still doing till now.
they worship church instead of God, in order to seek protection from church

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